Last night I was doing open-eye womb dreaming in a dark room and I saw a black puff that was moving around. Inside that black puff a face started forming.
Then I saw a green puff that kept moving back and forth. At first I ignored it, but it kept moving from left to right right in front of my face, and I also saw a face inside that one.
My main question is about the black puff. What are these puffs?
How should I deal with the black one? What should I do when I see them?
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That’s difficult to say, for me at least—how long and how often have you been practicing womb dreaming? Is it usually with your eyes open? What has practice before this experience been like for you?
I‘m sorry to ask so many questions in response to your question, but I’m hoping you might share more so that everyone reading (including me) might have better insight into your practice and be better able to help address what you are asking about! 🙂
Just to clarify, my main question is really just about the black puff.
As for the questions you asked: this is actually a practice I came up with myself, and I’ve been doing it every day for about a week now, usually after Tensegrity.
I lie down in a dark room, put something slightly weighted that I made myself over my womb, and stare at the ceiling until I start seeing the puffs. I also try to keep my internal dialogue quiet while I’m doing it.
As for the black puff, I was seeing faces that looked kind of like different masks, and they kept changing. Honestly, I had no idea what it was, so I decided not to pay attention to it.
It almost doesn't matter what it is, because if you expect (or fear) it to be something else you'll alter the balance and it might become that other thing.
So there's even a variety of beings that can appear on a black puff, which I won't name because that can taint your own experience.
What you are perceiving isn't held in place by billions of people living around you. As your normal assemblage point position is.
This one is just an odd position of the assemblage point, which isn't stuck in place by outside forces.
So any observations can completely alter it.
Not that any of it is "all in your head". We're learning to move our assemblage point, and absolutely nothing is "really there" once you move your assemblage point away from where it appears real.
We just describe things as being "real" and others as not, based on what we're forced to perceive by those around us.
That's one reason I practice at 2:30AM if I manage to wake up in time. So that the emanations aren't being held in place as solidly.
I don't know if this is why don Juan wasn't afraid of the allies anymore, and took Carlos out to actually meet some, which were under the control of some old seers who buried (mummified?) themselves under a large rock.
Did don Juan only see a "pressure" as La Gorda described it, or did he still see something scary at first, but used his seeing to look past it.
My guess is, he didn't see the scary appearance. That was just a flow from the emanations, custom tailored for Carlos by the addition of the awareness of the allies, into the streaming "knowledge".
Which I consider a loss. If you can't see the type of thing the inorganic being is manifesting for your student, you can't use it to help teach them.
In your case, if you had one of those lineage senior witches around and told them you saw roses in the middle of the puff, they might make up a story about the lineage's secret rose garden, and how rare it is to be able to see it. Then they might give you the task of watering the roses there.
I just made that part up, but in fact sorcerers are storytellers.
And believe they can actually change things, with their stories.
They seem to especially like telling stories to apprentices.
Anyway, you're wanting to make it more real than it is.
And so asking what it is. Even who it is?
Try gazing a little closer to determine if there's any hue to the black puffs.
And look for "junk".
There's no way to draw this, but I see puffs of several types in the jet black puff range.
With hues. But the hues can be interpreted as gray, unless you look more closely.
Perhaps the best use for these black puffs is to use them to set the purple puffs on fire, by moving the black one around the edges. Once a purple puff is on fire with blue flames on the edges, you can turn it into a magical object and play with it for 20 minutes if you don't get too tired.
I added a remote viewing orb to the puff examples so you can see what they can do to the purple puffs. I used to use that for remote viewing. But I can't find the original picture, so this one from google images has a stand.
Actually, so could your power object if you wanted to place it on the top of the bedspread and gaze into it. Handheld is easier for a beginner, but there's no limits on what you can turn a purple (or blue) puff into. Just don't expect it to stick around too long. It's likely part of your double, and will eventually return to the whole.
I’m really glad this subreddit exists.
Your explanations are always great, as usual. Thanks so much.
In your case, if you can discover whether you can hold a black puff in your hand I could give you lots of fun stuff to do with that.
But I have no idea if you can disturb womb dreaming by moving your arm, or even sitting up.
That's the very "dark energy" we need, or we can't move our assemblage point the way sorcerers do.
Women build it up in the womb, possibly gotten in sleeping dreams.
Men have to find outside sources.
Which can include witches, but it typically their own Ally.
When I do Womb Dreaming, I lie down in a dark room with my eyes open, so I’ve basically combined the two practices.
And yeah, I move my hands around while I’m doing it. I haven’t tried holding a black puff in my hands yet, but when I gather the green puff between my hands, it kind of turns into a medium-sized, heavy drop. It usually settles toward the bottom of my hands, and no matter what I do, I can’t really shape it into anything.
You know what I mean? It’s like it’s not light anymore and somehow becomes heavy, although I don’t actually feel the weight.
Trying to shape them into things moves the assemblage point horizontally, making it possible to do that.
But until it moves horizontally, it makes no sense to be able to control the puffs that way. So we can't manage to "intend" it.
It's rule #2 of darkroom. Treat the impossible sights as "real" and the assemblage point moves horizontally to make it more so.
And the "dark side" of rule #2: The more you move horizontally, the more you slip into irrational waking dreaming. With no common sense.
And your assemblage point gets "stuck" at that level along the J curve once it moves too far horizontally.
For moving down and under the luminous egg and back up in the front, it's best to stay in the middle of Man's band.
But for "practical magic", it's best to stop at a certain depth, and move the assemblage point horizontally.
The goal is, enough common sense to be amazed at what you are doing, but not so much that you won't allow it to happen.
And anything you see or feel while trying to do rule #2, is helpful. Even if you don't succeed.
What I don't know myself is whether it's possible to do the fully wacky stuff, like turn puffs into physical objects, without a second awareness that's focused on what you are doing.
In my case, an inorganic being.
But in the case of Cholita, her.
Either an inorganic being, or Cholita, makes it possible to do the most bizarre things, like reshape or utilize the puffs, to accomplish a task.
Can that be done solo?
Maybe not. Could be, it doesn't attain enough "realness" with just one person.
But in such a case, just give it a try anyway. Success isn't necessary for learning sorcery.
Success is mostly for motivation. And guaranteed, once you get to the purple zone you'll have to become comfortable with failure.
It's all 10 times harder out there.
So that it's easy to get discouraged and not practice as hard.
Just don't do that. And infinity will reward you after a couple of days of utter failure.
It seems to work somewhat like a child learning a complex adult skill.
The adult teacher MUST let the child fail. The adult can't just jump in and make sure everything works. By doing everything for them.
The child won't learn that way.
BUT, the adult also doesn't want the child to give up. So once in a while, it gifts a success to keep the child optimistic.
I see, so everything I’m seeing is real. I won’t stop practicing until I can shape the puffs...
I should write down all the points you mentioned!
I’m off to practice now. If I have any new experiences, I’ll definitely post about them here again.