I am a woman, and based on what I've read here and in books, I can experience the magic of womb dreaming with 'Dreaming Yo' (or Yoo Dreaming). Did I understand correctly?
I usually practice womb dreaming, and when I sleep, I sometimes have experiences. For example, recently, after womb dreaming, I dreamed that I was in a house that has a basement. I found a way through that basement and through nested/intertwined tunnels to access the lower sections of the house, where there are various floors. On each floor, it is full of different tools and objects that I can use to perform magic with and transform into other things. Was this dream part of reality, and did I truly experience it?
Also, once I had an experience where I was in a sleep-wake state—meaning I was conscious/aware. I saw my double come and press the index finger of their right hand onto my left forearm. In that spot, the double's fingerprint remained and was glowing white and luminous. Startled by this, I became completely awake. What do you think the message was for me, and what does this even mean?
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Complicated question. Best if the women respond at first.
The answer is in the books, but you'd have to read all of them and think about this as a "topic" which needs examples to clarify it. Such as when La Gorda took Carlos flying into the sky, or when she opened a portal so they could escape the allies who had them trapped in a room.
But essentially, that's the main "beginner's mystery" in sorcery. And one for which we have a serious disadvantage, over apprentices in the lineages who had real sorcerers around to interact with.
More than 1 person, together in sorcery realms, = real.
One person = ??!#$@!??
That is, once you are working hard and begin to see amazing things on a daily basis.
You still ask yourself (but don't care as much about the answer), "Is it real?"
A better question might be, "What does real mean?"
Or, if you can experience it and it's as real as your daily life, and you can explore it for decades and you only get better and better at visiting other realities, why do you care if it's "real" in this specific reality? If you were to ask the beings living in the others whether this one was real, you'd get many who would tell you it's not, and you should say there with them.
When Carlos asked don Juan whether everyone might not learn sorcery, or maybe he asked why they didn't, don Juan said something like "There's no survival advantage".
I'll get the precise quote when I finish getting Gemini AI "Notebook" to index all of the books.
Supposedly it'll be able to find any quote.
But a warning: AI RAG systems are expensive, and they aren't going to index anything larger than 500K words per source. They'll pretend they did, but then you'll find they can't find stuff you eventually find on your own.
So you have to keep your data in smaller files, instead of one giant file holding everything.
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Looks like the AI is working better now! It found that answer:
In The Power of Silence, don Juan tells Carlos directly:
"To answer your question," he said, "there is no survival value in heightened awareness; otherwise the whole human race would be there."
Keep in mind, "heightened awareness" is a waking state. It happens when the assemblage point moves to the other side of the body.
Your tonal awareness can "go along" during womb dreaming, and that's what lets you find your hands once you get in.
But the double, the dreamer, has its own assemblage point.
So I'm not sure this comment is applicable to sleeping dreaming states.
I truly appreciate your attention and engagement. Regarding the two topics you raised:
If you have further thoughts or questions about these matters, I would be delighted to continue the discussion. Thanks again for your valuable participation.
Seems like I'm talking to an AI here...
There aren't any humans who actually talk like that.
Well... There was a ballerina I knew as a child. But she pretty much wouldn't talk to me at all.
No, I'm a human, don't worry 😂 But since I'm not fluent in English, I gave the text to an AI to translate it into English for me. That's why it came out that way. Sorry about that.
Is it just a coincidence that you posted at the same time as the other woman?
We come under attack constantly, so we get a bit suspicious of new user IDs.
There was even a time 3 or 4 years ago when an entire group of people following a fake sorcery leader, came to attack the subreddit.
Constantly.
One or two pretended to be native american, so the mods were afraid to just clobber them.
But we don't fall for that anymore...
Please don't compare me to anyone. I posted here some time ago as well, and I am one of the new practitioners. I am not affiliated with any group, nor do I have any circle or acquaintances. I simply asked a question about my own experience. I did not attack anyone, nor did I question anything. I don't know what you mean, or who you might have mistaken me for.
It's impossible to remember individual IDs in here, unless the person has been posting back and forth for months.
Even the mods forget which user IDs belong to whom. Especially the system created user IDs.
And we're suspicious for good reason.
But it wasn't anything to do with you, just a coincidence I suppose.
The posting rate in here seems to be dependant on all sorts of things.
We've never figured out the rules, but weather, elections, holidays, and who reddit sends emails to about a post in this subreddit, are big influencers of how many posts we get, or how many new people.