Hello everyone,
I have been dealing with some sort of energy thing for over 2 years now. I have contacted and worked with various healers. I am wondering if anybody has any recommendations....I am going to try to find another healer person.
Thanks for any help.
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The only Carlos style healer I ever knew was Howard Lee. But he's in Italy now.
It's possible Bruce would know of some, but I don't know how to get into contact with him. Carlos spoke about healers for a while in his classes, maybe in association with Bruce's TV mini-series. It centered around healers in an alternate world who could push their hands into people's bodies.
Thank you. What is Bruce's last name? Or his website or somethin?
I'm glad you know of a "Carlos style healer"....
Wagner. He has a Wikipedia entry.
well thanks for all your replies @danl999 If there are any other healers in general who you would recommend I'd like to hear it.
I hate to admit it, but I'm a contrarian about health things. I don't pay much enough attention to healers because of that.
Carlos endorsed a number of odd things in class, possibly because of Bruce, and one other woman who was interested in such things.
He sort of endorsed the idea that you can reach into someone's body without an incision, remove bloody objects, and the person gets better.
He endorsed the idea that you can learn to read with your feet.
But when it came to doctors, one of the women in his group was a medical doctor. She took close care of him.
Still, if you have the nerve, track down Bruce and ping him. Tell him Dan, the computer guy who brought the plastic skeleton to class, told you to ask him.
I do not know very much about Carlos other than his books and I have not finished one....the whole idea around them though with the teacher and what not is quite fascinating to say the least. I have the Power of Silence book in my house right now. Found it really cheap somewhere I think. The Teachings I have read just a little.
Seems like Bruce Wagner will be too difficult to contact, I mean I can not find much on the internet.
Anyways I really appreciate the replies thus far.
Have a good one :)
Is it even possible to contact Howard Y. Lee?
I tried by email about 7 years ago, when I was trying to teach sorcery to someone. I had no luck contacting him. I've been told Howard married an absolutely beautiful younger woman and I got the impression she's the gate keeper now.
There's also the martial arts association Howard and Carlos hung out at. Carlos used to go to their picnics. Some of the higher ups in that organization might know healers. But don't mention any weird Carlos stuff.
It's the Tai Chi association founded by Marshall Ho. But you should expect that whatever they know about is likely Chinese medicine, and acupuncture in particular.
I was reading the post, could you specify which part of Italy he went to? An Italian named Luigi cured my mother of Crohn's disease, he lives in Brescia, but from what I understand, the Buddhists took him as a child and he is a "reincarnation", I don't think so but what is real is that he cured to my mother before I was born
Curing people, or even how old you are, is not an indication of any advanced magical knowledge.
Carlos went to someone who was confident he could "intend" it.
Just as Cholita can intend a giant truck to speed around a corner, and bump off her enemy cat.
Or Carlos could intend the basement to flood at that apartment in Arizona.
Believing you are re-incarnated is a sure sign of self destructive delusions.
Because there's no such thing. Only people with very limited vision of reality believe in that.
So it's kind of a "fake" indicator.
And as far as I can tell, there's no good historical reason to believe in it.
I always go back to see the source of stuff like that.
It was just more bad player made up magic, but was super popular because of how flattering it is.
Socrates debated it a bit, but they seem to have rejected the idea.
Just to make sure beginners aren't confused, there's no one using Mediation with their eyes closed, who has any significant knowledge.
It's just "green line effects" on that J curve map. Stuff any woman (potential witch) does in the bath to sooth herself, without having practiced it before at all.
And THOSE are the people who are pointed to as the source of the belief in reincarnation. People sitting with their eyes closed for hours, grinning for the camera.
Their delusional writings designed to sound "wise".
I don't know where Howard moved to.
He had a young woman following him, and at one point he got one pregnant.
I don't know if that's the same one.
But I'll predict, she tries to take over his franchise when he dies.
I was telling you in case this guy who cured my mother was a hidden sorcerer, but otherwise I was looking for him, he has several places where he teaches movements that I don't think are really useful (get money from others I suppose)
now that I look for him on the web I see that he is another fake, in my case he once offered me to go and that he would teach me, but I prefer the real thing (which only this subreddit/Carlos/Don Juan gives you)
I have no intention of being another buddha child
Sadly, anyone "eager" to have you around is a phony after money or sex.
Unfortunately, most of the "benefactors" out there are after sex.
People stuck on the first 3 books, trying to pretend to be a sorcerer taking on an apprentice.
I've had to hear the grisly details.
I'm suspicious that Colorado Carlos and Doug were after sex.
From horrible stories I've heard, which the storyteller didn't realize was horrible.
Drugged up.
Listening to lectures about how sorcery was all about "love".
I realized this, sex, money or attention
and the worst thing is that the more you ignore them, the heavier they are, when you cut them off they send new ones
but it is normal ´´there are these aliens who have taken over the earth to eat, and they will not like your sorcery practices. so what will they try to stop you
I find it funny how the ``guru new age`` use the term ``love or spirituality`` they only seek to be false teachers who to obtain sex or money
The worst thing is that there are many people who fall into this, the worst thing, as Don Juan said, is ignorance.
Hello again Dan, I am writing this text because I am worried
I'm young and I thought I had a lot of time, but as I told you I'm conspiranoic, in the country I live in Spain I think the same thing as in China is coming, total slavery this time, I'm writing this because I think you're really a warrior, Can you give me advice in the event that I have to flee from here or fight to save myself from what they want to impose, I'm sorry to be a pain in the ass but the truth is that I see it closer every time
If it is of any use or there is a possibility, I am willing for you to send iobs or anything so that I stop being a lazy piece of shit(and they almost scared me to death, I know that this whole world is real but I believe when I see it all my doubts of daily life will go away),
And finally dedicate myself totally to the path of sorcery, I think that it is the only thing that can save me, and I know that I will leave my family and everything behind, but I do not care
edited: If any mod reads this and has any advice for my situation, I listen to answers and thank you
Sounds like you're trying to get out of hard work, by finding something else to do like flee your family.
Many did that.
Doesn't work.
And it doesn't work to create a guru savior to think about.
In fact, the witches said that being turned into a Guru, contributed to killing Carlos.
So if you're under social pressure, learn stalking. Turn it into an advantage and deal with it impeccably.
You should see Cholita in action, in the wealthy part of Los Angeles.
It is what I try, take advantage of the moments to do, in fact I am now in a job (I start on Thursday as a civil servant) where I could lurk, I do not try to escape from here (my family) they are tyrannical but very small, rather Dan I don't know If you know that this country Spain is totally screwed, I want to escape from that
digital currencies are coming here, at the same time as communism and the struggle of ideologies, to the point that they teach small children how to masturbate, and people have them asleep, they fumigate the skies, they cover our only and apart they intoxicate, and a thousand other things (I could be talking to Cholita about conspiracies for hours)
I don't want to run away from here due to social pressure, I want to run away because total slavery is coming, like China or Korea
AI is going to change everything.
Politics won't be as strong of an effect, once we have "slave" machines to do all the work.
It'll be interesting to see!
Why have socialism, when you have benign slavery? Just tax the hell out of the AI workers so that the government can give out free money to buy votes, without it harming any actual people who had to earn it.
As for getting help learning, NO ONE can teach another person.
You should know that by now, if you kept up with studying past posts.
Even Carlos couldn't teach individuals.
Given more time, maybe. But he ran out.
Don Juan could teach specific people, but only those brought to him by "the spirit", and only with 15 powerful sorcerers in a lineage to follow the spirit's intentions.
All helping figure out how to guide the apprentices on an individual basis by selecting a compatible type as their main teacher, with additional help from all the others.
One sorcerer couldn't possibly do that, or even 4 since Carlos had the witches and Carol Tiggs helping and it still didn't work.
It's perhaps "the rule" that taught people, not any individual.
And "the rule" doesn't really apply anymore now that our lineage is ended.
The old seers also did NOT teach single adult people.
Just children given to them very young.
So forget about help.
However, darkroom will always work if you put in the time.
Some might need to do recap also, to get back more energy.
And all day silence.
But darkroom cannot fail, if you put in the time and follow instructions by emphasizing silence above all else, and Tensegrity done while silent, for sufficient duration to let the assemblage point move.
I don't think that the politicians here are going to stop living from it for nothing in the world, and the people are their sheep
but the case more than helps, what I was asking for is a scare of reality but everything you say is true, no one can teach another
I'll keep practicing, sorry for bothering so much
I'm afraid to say, most Castaneda fans are on that side of politics. The angry, virtue signaling "control others for their own good" side.
Carlos probably wasn't, but when someone went into a delusional rant about Regan back in the 90s, claiming the "will work for food" signs were Regan's doing, Carlos just grinned.
Cholita used to be on the left, but now she despises them at the same level, she used to despise the right.
I just wish the stoners would win for a change.
Make everything legal, and leave people alone.
They don't even believe in speed limits on roads!
Or driver's licenses for that matter.
I suppose that would benefit Cholita, who can't keep a car legal even with my help. They'll have to tow it away, before I can put her car back in legal order.
She doesn't trust the mechanic that gives "smog checks", or even the DMV.
hahaha cholita reminds me of that, at first I thought that someone would have to be good, then you realize that left and right follow the same agenda
The truth is that I don't consider myself a fan of Carlos, or anyone, but I do thank you for the opportunity that I give to others to have this knowledge.
Since I was little I thought that the world as it surrounded me could not be the only thing, and that we lived in an illusion
I don't care about politics, and I don't care about dominating others, , but I do keep myself informed, for example with the recent covid vaccine (I didn't get it and they tried to limit me for it ) but not because I'm a fan of theories, but because I was really informed about what was going on behind
and I hope I'm wrong but my country doesn't have much time left, I hope to learn before to be able to jump to another place or to another world
Same racket. Both funneling money to themselves and their supporters.
out of this topic, as I told you I feel vibrations
but apart from that I have been feeling a vibration for two days, touch, or I don't know how to explain it but I feel as if some energy passed through my left foot and made it vibrate, this same vibration appears less frequently in my dorsals, especially in the right one below from my armpit.
I know you don't know much about this (vibrations) but I'm telling you in case it sounds familiar
Could be, but it's also possible you're looking for very subtle things, to convince yourself it's progress.
Just make sure they "present themselves", rather than you go looking for them.
And best if what you experience is the result of an intense effort to force deeper silence, so that you know the "cause" is the right thing.
all vibrations/touches/feelings of energy/sometimes sounds like beeps among others and even some ``visions or déjà vu`` come to me randomly, I don't control it and they tend to come the longer I stay silent, but I've noticed recently about this (actually I realized yesterday)
It'll be interesting to see what you say about them, when you reach full on silent knowledge.
Whether you decide you were "overtrying" to perceive things, or whether those are other "paths" during darkroom.
I got to look at one of those last night, in silent knowledge.
I was glancing around the room, marveling at the change in how it looked without the allies.
And I caught a patch of whitish light with bubbles.
A voice said, "That's what that guy was talking about a few years ago."
I gazed more, to see if it could be used for anything.
Wondering if you just ought not to insist there's only one valid sight.
The puffs.
Or whether, ANY sight potentially helps keep the internal dialogue more silent.
That's tricky! It depends on the intent of the seer. Why the person is seeing that, and not other things that become visible in silence.
Will it pull them up to the blue line, and not down further into the green zone?
Or is it some horizontally shifted green zone sight?
We NEED a map of the blue and green zone.
A very detailed map would be super helpful in here!
But I got distracted by other things so I wasn't able to figure it out.
This is just what I see when using the Sunlight glitter technique
The more I keep quiet, the more those balls move, (it reminded me when Carlos told of seeing a golden sea of bubbles and that when he observed them he traveled with them to another place or something like that, I don't remember well)
Would it be a vision of the future? That phrase only left me doubts hahaha
I will try to reach the silent knowledge, I feel that I am here for this (they may be mental masturbation but they motivate me not to give up, I sometimes feel like a chosen one, like Anakin, I don't know to what extent this is good or bad)
As soon as I can, I'll try to make a map of the blue zone and green zone, although I have to practice a lot for that, it's the least I can do for all the help received ( (if I do it first, I'll pass it on to you to check if it's valid for others to learn, I'd rather not publish post and ruin the path of others)
A map of the blue zone would include things like "feverish visions" and "won the lottery"! excitement.
Also, if you include the green zone in that, "I spoke to Jesus today".
It's not going to be a very pretty thing.
It'll be all the ugly pretending and pathetically weak "magic" that's out there, being sold for money.
But give it, in a way that you can move to it specifically, instead of having to pay cash to Yogananda's left over female groupies.
Now that I think about it, that would be fun hahaha
I see many who sell spirituality, astral travel and etc. when they only reached the green line
Yogananda is the clear example of this, I read the beginning of his book and I didn't get very far before leaving it and noticing that he was a fake, there was no magic, just many gurus who captured the attention of people with supposed ``powers`` those guys remind me of a cobra dancing and hypnotizing its prey
I'll satire Yogananda in a cartoon about Cholita visiting his temple.
Just won't say where it's located.
He'd be a good step towards dethroning Yogis.
I suppose Maharishi had such an ugly death with fakes clamoring to take over, that his reputation isn't worth correcting.
They should use AI to make a duet of Maharishi singing with McCartney!
Like they're doing with Lennon.
Might be a way to take down Maharishi too. By making fun of the Beetles connection.
People who know the history, would find it amusing.
Then have McCartney singing with a bull frog.
I could play it on a TV in the background at Westerly Witches home.
She has totally bizarre stuff playing on her laptop when I get home.
She stages a lot of it.
I am one of those who thinks that McCartney is dead and was replaced hahaha ask cholita about that, she surely knows about it
I don't know much about gurus from India, but they are funny sometimes I get Sadguru or something like that and I can only laugh at how he copies a part of what Carlos said, and another part is invented anything for money and attention is his motto hahaha
By the way, I was practicing the technique that I told you about the other day, but I added the stones of silence (the one with the matrix chair technique) Every time I get more results, although of course, the most normal thing is to fall asleep before, but today especially I controlled my sleep as long as I could see I feel, or it seems that I see energy at times it even seems that I see colors, but I still do not see them clearly (it could be mental masturbation)
but today I had a different experience I saw a screen of many small blue fractions that seemed to have a round circular shape, and it looked like a moving sea, I was in a fixed state (without movement and with my eyes open) I tried to feel the movement of the assemblage point, but in My body just noticed how out of nowhere I felt energy/vibration in my genitals, and I got an erection looking at that "wall of blue spots" After this (I don't know if it's normal)
I remembered that it's not the first time this has happened to me, and that when I wake up in a dream (and I'm awake I don't wake up but try to continue the dream) what I notice is this type of erection,
I explain all this to ask, does it have to do with the movement of the assemblage point?
Psdt: I wait for the cartoon of yogananda and cholita visiting their temple, sometimes I would like to know if cholita reads what we write here
No one knows, we don't have enough experience with various people yet.
The only thing we know, is who's likely to stick around.
Young people are not. Except that maybe they come and go, but eventually are simply gone.
Even after intense enthusiasm.
I suppose they haven't gotten tired of the blue zone yet, so it can still suck them back in.
Well, in my case, I'm young, I hope I don't forget what is real
and return as many times as necessary to achieve freedom, although I don't know what it is
The truth is I don't know how they forget, I don't live in the shitty river (blue zone) or for money, attention, fame or pleasures
But I guess everyone has their interpretation.
thanks anyway Dan
eep, that's quite worrying!- kinda reminds me of a cat tho 🐈
Sorry for bothering you again Dan, yesterday I was practicing for hours and hours, and this morning the same thing happened to me as last night, in the dark room it seems that I see colors, but they are very vague, in fact sometimes a light similar to the light appears to me solar and I surprise myself losing my silence (I have to practice more)
but last night and this morning I was noticing a flashback effect I don't really know how to explain it, my vision looked like this video:
(if you look at it with closed eyes it represents better since I saw it like this in the dark room) something softer, not so bright, not so white but my vision obtains that effect after being quite silent, I ignore it or can this help me better observation?
It is difficult to maintain that "effect" on the other hand, as soon as I saw it, I began to remember that I have seen it before in other moments of my life, and that sometimes I even see it in my peripheral vision without realizing it. account before it
(sorry for being a pain in the ass) I'm just finishing writing this about to send it to you, and I got that effect again, everything seems to vibrate
It's one of the normal "effects" of darkroom.
It typically indicates the assemblage point moved in some unique way we don't understand, but it's good to notice it when mixed in with other movements.
By itself, it can turn into attention seeking.
You NEED to find brilliant pieces of your energy body, in order to know you are silent enough to be luring it back closer to the center.
It's fled our "stench" and crammed against the outside of the egg shell, as far away from us as it can get.
And the only way to become sorcerers, is to get it to come back closer to the middle and form an "energy body" for us to use.
Anything else you see during darkroom is a distraction.
Could be a "good sign".
But focusing attention on it misdirects your intent towards attention seeking.
An analogy:
You go bird watching with some little kids.
A few really do want to see "the Red Beaked Beatle Cruncher" bird.
But most are just out there because their moms kicked them out of the house for the day, hoping the weird bird man in the lame jungle explorer outfit is safe for a baby sitter.
And one annoying little kid only wants attention from the bird watcher man, because he has no father at home.
So he runs from interesting sight to interesting sight.
First, a solid orange rock on the dirt.
The weird birdman says, yes that is in fact a solid orange rock! Could be a feldspar-rich rock, often associated with pegmatite dikes. We have those up in the mountains over there.
Now please, go back to bird watching?
But the kid never does. Just keeps finding "interesting" things so he can get one on one interactions with the male role model.
Who's just some weird guy in a Raiders of the Lost Arc costume he got at the thrift shop.
lol good analogy
I understand I will continue looking for pieces (puffs and colors) that is my current objective, although everything is for reach silent knowledge, my true objective, stop the world
I hope I don't end up being a guy who just keeps finding "interesting" things, and for that reason he stays a life pretending
And by the way, I'll try to stop writing so much here and asking as many questions (I'll look for the answers practicing or on reddit), thanks again
every time that i have seen the purple puffs, and noticed my ap moving, i have had an erection. maybe it is common for young people!
After that experience I remembered that I usually have erections when I get up from a dream (when the AP is still loose or changing position) this is very noticeable in the sound