At the end he catches a glimpse of her energy body/dreaming body.
We'll see if it gets flagged on Vimeo, didn't even make it past the second stage on YouTube before it was auto-blocked.
The whole series on Netflix (search "Netflix Hawkins" to find which show it's from) is filled with similar visual depictions of some of Castaneda's key concepts. And it's very good that it's so ridiculously popular.
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-02-15 20:30
Saw this series some months ago. Pretty interesting one. But does it really reflect the energy body topic?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2020-02-15 20:40
Energy Body, Dreaming Body...I always confuse the two.
What she's doing with the blindfold and searching for people is definitely either accessing the second attention, or her dreaming body. The dude even catches a fleeting glimpse of it at the end of the clip.
Later on in the season, she even enters one of his childhood memories. In other words shared dreaming.
I also love how they employ darkness and water in the visuals.
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u/danl999
5 points2020-02-15 23:10
Energy body and dreaming body are different. I don't know how.
But I've seen both of those with Cholita.
The energy body looks like a short squid with too many tentacles.
Her dreaming body looks like her, or it looks like her 20 years ago when she met Castaneda. Or perhaps when I met and married her.
But how is this stuff making it into Hollywood?
Does Carlos have a logical description, and people are merely intuiting it on their own?
Or did sorcerers figure out how to do the most fun things they could imagine, and Hollywood is also good at imagining?
Or maybe that's somehow part of one of Carlos' factions.
I keep expecting we'll discover more.
Or maybe he just cast the knowledge out there, using intent, and it's got to pop up somewhere.
Intent's certainly put Cholita in my home. Neither of us had a choice.
Even Cholita admits that.
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-02-16 00:09
Energy Body, Dreaming Body...I always confuse the two.
It is unclear in the books as well.
What she's doing with the blindfold and searching for people is definitely either accessing the second attention, or her dreaming body. The dude even catches a fleeting glimpse of it at the end of the clip.
Yes.
Later on in the season, she even enters one of his childhood memories. In other words shared dreaming.
To some extent.
I also love how they employ darkness and water in the visuals.
I agree. The funny thing is their newest season will be filmed in the Eastern Europe :-)
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2020-02-16 03:09
To some extent.
Your right. It's more like a master of recapitulation witnessing a specific moment in time they themselves did not live through. She picks up the traces of the memory and follows it back to its source.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-02-16 10:49recovered
In which country is it going to be filmed?
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-02-16 11:04
Lithuania, if I am not mistaking. At least some episodes.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-02-16 12:26recovered
That's not exactly eastern europe.
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-02-16 13:47
Which one it is then?
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-02-16 14:02recovered
It's baltic so northern?
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u/TotallyNormalChips
1 points2024-03-03 17:58
kaipir, bet nelabai. Toks keistai neapibrėžiamas dalykas.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-02-15 22:52
Yea, you could do that. I do it with Cholita.
She blocked me for a while, but she appeared on Valentine's day for a bit.
I can't see any background yet. Or at least, not enough to identify where she's located.
There's no technique for this. You get silent in darkness (blindfold would work), so that there's no distractions, and you aren't holding your assemblage point in place with thoughts about stuff in this realm.
You first see some disturbance in colors that shouldn't be there.
For me, oddly it's blue. Usually I see purple colors. But for this technique I see blue.
Blue is what I mostly see, when an inorganic being takes form. A blue ghost, against a purple fog.
The disturbance has what might be the features of a person, but it's so little you feel bad for thinking it's going to turn into something. For instance, a line that might be a left shoulder, but isn't filled in any more.
When you drop that idea that it won't work, you've put the idea of what you want into your mind.
Any idea you have clearly, then drop it, produces an echo in consciousness that manifests with a vision of the thing you were thinking about. Patanjali's aphorisms are based on that.
And the idea should include the person you wanted to see.
Alternately, you can just call out to them, and drop it. Face whatever direction you think they're in, and call for them once.
Or, if you don't know the direction, east seems to work best in my bedroom.
They materialize in the middle of the disturbance.
If you get a thrill out of that, it'll end.
You have to not care at all to sustain it.
The way you know it's really them is by noticing some detail you didn't know about, and verifying it the next day.
I've done that. After I verified one, I didn't bother with looking for more proof.
But even if it wasn't really them, how cool is that???
Who the hell can do that? No one I know.
Sometimes I tinker with society and just find a random person, and confide sorcery stuff to them. But only if they ask how my day went. Or what are my hobbies.
I have to be invited.
The most common reaction on hearing a truthful account of the bizarreness of my life is that they raise their eyebrows and ask, "Whaaattt???" in a meek voice.
Young women will often say, "Oh yea, I heard about that..."
Men are the worst. If they're scientifically minded, it's an insult to their intelligence and they feel it's their duty to set you straight, and dispute your false claims.
It's like they have a big wooden cross in their pocket, and pull it out to defend themselves against the onslaught.
Except that they believe themselves to be the opposite of religiously prejudiced.
Please notice, if this happens to you, that they usually even get angry. Their fists roll up, and they clench their teeth, and talk in an angry voice.
They're ready to strike you!
If they know you, and you ask why would you lie to them, they switch to the alternate argument.
I've even gotten it in the Zen forum.
Why would you want to do that?
Seriously?????????
Why the heck wouldn't you?!
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u/Unique-Permission
2 points2020-02-16 13:18
i was in a very conscious dream I was watching at my dream body and one voice said that body is exact like your physical body .. was very weird .
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u/danl999
5 points2020-02-16 20:01
I felt bad last night for implying I could do this exactly as you see in the video.
You can do that! But my technique is remote viewing, not going there in your dreaming body.
I mean, isn't that amazing photography? I design such cameras, so I'm impressed by ones that are better than mine.
The remote viewing variety will like an old web camera. Very low res, and lots of noise.
And likely it'll be bluish grey, and color will only be an afterthought.
If you look for the color of something, you'll be able to see it.
But otherwise, it won't occur to you.
If you want to see the 1080p version of remote viewing, you have to get sucked into the scene, in dreaming. And travel there in your dreaming body, the way that girl does in the clip.
If Cholita was more sane, I could just ask her what she sees, when she taps my shoulder to wake me up at night.
But she isn't.
When I got home last night, I heard her faint voice from her room:
"Welcome home you miserable bastard. I'll take your balls and grind them....."
I couldn't hear the rest clearly but it went on for much longer, until I asked, "Why are you mad at me? Did something bad happen?"
I didn't hear another world that night.
Anyone who's suffering from Cholita fatigue should remember, I promised to give her equal time here, since it's just her and me left from private classes. I just can't get her to write anything for us.
So I'm trying to teach, by relating the sequence of events with Cholita around.
There's a lesson in there, I promise. Following intent for one thing.
But also, how to eliminate the last traces of the motivations behind the internal dialogue.
In Cholita's case, it's temping to try to "correct" her. To insist she not talk like that, seeing as how she'd be homeless without me, and I do nothing but spoil her rotten.
But that's not a good way to deal with people.
I know it's the way we've all learned.
But it's much better to let them be who they are, without trying to modify it.
In other words, you silence your "social dialogue" too.
The result will be, your relationships will be with the actual person, not with the protected copy everyone can manage for a short while.
Cholita can seem to be charming when we go out, although her madness is obvious.
But once she lets her guard down and relaxes, she's as miserable of a human being as you can find. A true gift!
It's not actually Cholita's fault. She used to be nice.
But she's got paranoid schizophrenia.
The challenge with a Cholita is to accept it, without it affecting you.
That'll turbo charge your ability to be "empty" around other people.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2020-02-16 20:48
travel there in your dreaming body, the way that girl does in the clip.
I'm the first two seasons she, and another boy, get pulled into another dimension called The Upside Down (or The Underside). Basically one of the realms of the inorganics.
After she escapes their reality, her powers are magnified.
your ability to be "empty" around other people.
Being silent in a dark room is almost more than most can manage. Doing it in a crowd seems mind boggling. We're all trusting the books and your testimony that it is indeed possible.
A daunting and lofty goal.
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u/jd198703
3 points2020-02-16 22:23
Being silent in a dark room is almost more than most can manage. Doing it in a crowd seems mind boggling. We're all trusting the books and your testimony that it is indeed possible.
A daunting and lofty goal.
Sorry for interrupting, but wanted to share somr ideas.
From my personal experience, there is no reason it could not be done. The way I see it in my case, ir is just a matter of habit and proper intent. During our daily routines, we are just to sink into the internal dialogue. We let is absorb us. So what we need to do is to learn to do the opposite thing. So you notice the dialogue - you cancel it. You notice - you cancel. It does not matter is it alone or in a crowd. I noticed that your perception becomes more fresh and clean, and you focus on here and now automatically. You just need to teach yourself to recognize it and cancel it away. I have a feeling that there is some "threshold" when a new "habit" will form and intent will take over to be silent all the time and turn on thoughts only when needed.
In some Eastern traditions they also do exactly the same thing. The problem is the never bother to do the next step to stop the world entirely.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-02-16 23:21
I have two students who are there.
But I can't afford to mix realms. It's going too well so far, to take that kind of risk.
I'm launching a new realm tonight. But if I'm lucky, no one here will ever know about it.
Another is on the drawing board. I have a witch in NY to handle that one.
I guess Carlos must have done the same thing.
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u/jd198703
2 points2020-02-17 20:29
But I can't afford to mix realms. It's going too well so far, to take that kind of risk.
What is the essence of this risk?
I'm launching a new realm tonight. But if I'm lucky, no one here will ever know about it.
Is it to make sure that knowledge will spread and be saved, in one place or another?
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u/danl999
4 points2020-02-17 21:42
Cholita's a good example.
In some ways, I'd be better off without her around.
Her energy devistated what I used to practice. Made it nearly impossible.
But, I gained other things.
The most important thing I gained is the realization that sorcery is serious business.
You don't mix realms without a huge risk.
You can't predict what you'll lose, and what you'll gain.
One of my students is a big bully. But, he's a real sorcerer.
He'd be impatient with most of you.
Eventually he'll be silent all the time, mellow out, and even feel some responsibility to help others.
But right now, he's a little drunk with power.
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u/DreamingTheDouble
1 points2020-03-02 05:20
I want to see this video, am I correct to understand it's part of a netflix show called "hawkins"?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-03-02 13:11
I don't want to list the actual name, the DMCA police and all. I'll PM you the title.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-03-02 22:14
And since the video has been taken down already, thank you DMCA gestapo, I am free to say it was from the series Stranger Things - Season 3 - Episode 3. I know of no other way to share it that won't be taken down either immediately or in a couple of weeks.
Suggestions welcome!
Update 3/7/2020 - I tried uploading it to Google Drive to share the link from there, but it refused to complete the process (probably because it auto-recognized that it was posted to YouTube and removed). I also tried creating a new archive.org account and uploading it to that, but it auto-recognized it somehow and wouldn't complete the upload.
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At the end he catches a glimpse of her energy body/dreaming body.
We'll see if it gets flagged on Vimeo, didn't even make it past the second stage on YouTube before it was auto-blocked.
The whole series on Netflix (search "Netflix Hawkins" to find which show it's from) is filled with similar visual depictions of some of Castaneda's key concepts. And it's very good that it's so ridiculously popular.
Saw this series some months ago. Pretty interesting one. But does it really reflect the energy body topic?
Energy Body, Dreaming Body...I always confuse the two.
What she's doing with the blindfold and searching for people is definitely either accessing the second attention, or her dreaming body. The dude even catches a fleeting glimpse of it at the end of the clip.
Later on in the season, she even enters one of his childhood memories. In other words shared dreaming.
I also love how they employ darkness and water in the visuals.
Energy body and dreaming body are different. I don't know how.
But I've seen both of those with Cholita.
The energy body looks like a short squid with too many tentacles.
Her dreaming body looks like her, or it looks like her 20 years ago when she met Castaneda. Or perhaps when I met and married her.
But how is this stuff making it into Hollywood?
Does Carlos have a logical description, and people are merely intuiting it on their own?
Or did sorcerers figure out how to do the most fun things they could imagine, and Hollywood is also good at imagining?
Or maybe that's somehow part of one of Carlos' factions.
I keep expecting we'll discover more.
Or maybe he just cast the knowledge out there, using intent, and it's got to pop up somewhere.
Intent's certainly put Cholita in my home. Neither of us had a choice.
Even Cholita admits that.
Edited
It is unclear in the books as well.
Yes.
To some extent.
I agree. The funny thing is their newest season will be filmed in the Eastern Europe :-)
Your right. It's more like a master of recapitulation witnessing a specific moment in time they themselves did not live through. She picks up the traces of the memory and follows it back to its source.
In which country is it going to be filmed?
Lithuania, if I am not mistaking. At least some episodes.
That's not exactly eastern europe.
Which one it is then?
It's baltic so northern?
kaipir, bet nelabai. Toks keistai neapibrėžiamas dalykas.
Yea, you could do that. I do it with Cholita.
She blocked me for a while, but she appeared on Valentine's day for a bit.
I can't see any background yet. Or at least, not enough to identify where she's located.
There's no technique for this. You get silent in darkness (blindfold would work), so that there's no distractions, and you aren't holding your assemblage point in place with thoughts about stuff in this realm.
You first see some disturbance in colors that shouldn't be there.
For me, oddly it's blue. Usually I see purple colors. But for this technique I see blue.
Blue is what I mostly see, when an inorganic being takes form. A blue ghost, against a purple fog.
The disturbance has what might be the features of a person, but it's so little you feel bad for thinking it's going to turn into something. For instance, a line that might be a left shoulder, but isn't filled in any more.
When you drop that idea that it won't work, you've put the idea of what you want into your mind.
Any idea you have clearly, then drop it, produces an echo in consciousness that manifests with a vision of the thing you were thinking about. Patanjali's aphorisms are based on that.
And the idea should include the person you wanted to see.
Alternately, you can just call out to them, and drop it. Face whatever direction you think they're in, and call for them once.
Or, if you don't know the direction, east seems to work best in my bedroom.
They materialize in the middle of the disturbance.
If you get a thrill out of that, it'll end.
You have to not care at all to sustain it.
The way you know it's really them is by noticing some detail you didn't know about, and verifying it the next day.
I've done that. After I verified one, I didn't bother with looking for more proof.
But even if it wasn't really them, how cool is that???
Who the hell can do that? No one I know.
Sometimes I tinker with society and just find a random person, and confide sorcery stuff to them. But only if they ask how my day went. Or what are my hobbies.
I have to be invited.
The most common reaction on hearing a truthful account of the bizarreness of my life is that they raise their eyebrows and ask, "Whaaattt???" in a meek voice.
Young women will often say, "Oh yea, I heard about that..."
Men are the worst. If they're scientifically minded, it's an insult to their intelligence and they feel it's their duty to set you straight, and dispute your false claims.
It's like they have a big wooden cross in their pocket, and pull it out to defend themselves against the onslaught.
Except that they believe themselves to be the opposite of religiously prejudiced.
Please notice, if this happens to you, that they usually even get angry. Their fists roll up, and they clench their teeth, and talk in an angry voice.
They're ready to strike you!
If they know you, and you ask why would you lie to them, they switch to the alternate argument.
I've even gotten it in the Zen forum.
Why would you want to do that?
Seriously?????????
Why the heck wouldn't you?!
i was in a very conscious dream I was watching at my dream body and one voice said that body is exact like your physical body .. was very weird .
I felt bad last night for implying I could do this exactly as you see in the video.
You can do that! But my technique is remote viewing, not going there in your dreaming body.
I mean, isn't that amazing photography? I design such cameras, so I'm impressed by ones that are better than mine.
The remote viewing variety will like an old web camera. Very low res, and lots of noise.
And likely it'll be bluish grey, and color will only be an afterthought.
If you look for the color of something, you'll be able to see it.
But otherwise, it won't occur to you.
If you want to see the 1080p version of remote viewing, you have to get sucked into the scene, in dreaming. And travel there in your dreaming body, the way that girl does in the clip.
If Cholita was more sane, I could just ask her what she sees, when she taps my shoulder to wake me up at night.
But she isn't.
When I got home last night, I heard her faint voice from her room:
"Welcome home you miserable bastard. I'll take your balls and grind them....."
I couldn't hear the rest clearly but it went on for much longer, until I asked, "Why are you mad at me? Did something bad happen?"
I didn't hear another world that night.
Anyone who's suffering from Cholita fatigue should remember, I promised to give her equal time here, since it's just her and me left from private classes. I just can't get her to write anything for us.
So I'm trying to teach, by relating the sequence of events with Cholita around.
There's a lesson in there, I promise. Following intent for one thing.
But also, how to eliminate the last traces of the motivations behind the internal dialogue.
In Cholita's case, it's temping to try to "correct" her. To insist she not talk like that, seeing as how she'd be homeless without me, and I do nothing but spoil her rotten.
But that's not a good way to deal with people.
I know it's the way we've all learned.
But it's much better to let them be who they are, without trying to modify it.
In other words, you silence your "social dialogue" too.
The result will be, your relationships will be with the actual person, not with the protected copy everyone can manage for a short while.
Cholita can seem to be charming when we go out, although her madness is obvious.
But once she lets her guard down and relaxes, she's as miserable of a human being as you can find. A true gift!
It's not actually Cholita's fault. She used to be nice.
But she's got paranoid schizophrenia.
The challenge with a Cholita is to accept it, without it affecting you.
That'll turbo charge your ability to be "empty" around other people.
I'm the first two seasons she, and another boy, get pulled into another dimension called The Upside Down (or The Underside). Basically one of the realms of the inorganics.
After she escapes their reality, her powers are magnified.
Being silent in a dark room is almost more than most can manage. Doing it in a crowd seems mind boggling. We're all trusting the books and your testimony that it is indeed possible.
A daunting and lofty goal.
Sorry for interrupting, but wanted to share somr ideas.
From my personal experience, there is no reason it could not be done. The way I see it in my case, ir is just a matter of habit and proper intent. During our daily routines, we are just to sink into the internal dialogue. We let is absorb us. So what we need to do is to learn to do the opposite thing. So you notice the dialogue - you cancel it. You notice - you cancel. It does not matter is it alone or in a crowd. I noticed that your perception becomes more fresh and clean, and you focus on here and now automatically. You just need to teach yourself to recognize it and cancel it away. I have a feeling that there is some "threshold" when a new "habit" will form and intent will take over to be silent all the time and turn on thoughts only when needed.
In some Eastern traditions they also do exactly the same thing. The problem is the never bother to do the next step to stop the world entirely.
I have two students who are there.
But I can't afford to mix realms. It's going too well so far, to take that kind of risk.
I'm launching a new realm tonight. But if I'm lucky, no one here will ever know about it.
Another is on the drawing board. I have a witch in NY to handle that one.
I guess Carlos must have done the same thing.
What is the essence of this risk?
Is it to make sure that knowledge will spread and be saved, in one place or another?
Cholita's a good example.
In some ways, I'd be better off without her around.
Her energy devistated what I used to practice. Made it nearly impossible.
But, I gained other things.
The most important thing I gained is the realization that sorcery is serious business.
You don't mix realms without a huge risk.
You can't predict what you'll lose, and what you'll gain.
One of my students is a big bully. But, he's a real sorcerer.
He'd be impatient with most of you.
Eventually he'll be silent all the time, mellow out, and even feel some responsibility to help others.
But right now, he's a little drunk with power.
I want to see this video, am I correct to understand it's part of a netflix show called "hawkins"?
I don't want to list the actual name, the DMCA police and all. I'll PM you the title.
And since the video has been taken down already, thank you DMCA gestapo, I am free to say it was from the series Stranger Things - Season 3 - Episode 3. I know of no other way to share it that won't be taken down either immediately or in a couple of weeks.
Suggestions welcome!
Update 3/7/2020 - I tried uploading it to Google Drive to share the link from there, but it refused to complete the process (probably because it auto-recognized that it was posted to YouTube and removed). I also tried creating a new archive.org account and uploading it to that, but it auto-recognized it somehow and wouldn't complete the upload.
Update 4/2/2020 - let's see if this is retained:
bit.ly/3aEqHU7 (streamable mp4)
Update 4/10/2020:
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Experiment, will this video link evade being blocked?