Don Juan Matus was he trapped in inorganice beings world or did he succeed to reach total freedom?

I often encounter people in Facebook who insist they are meeting with Don Juan Matus in their dreamings and get lessons from him or his colleagues. I wonder, how truthful it could be and if for example inorganic being can pretend to be some one else, it is known that you can not lie in their world, so if you ask inorganic being that pretends to be Don Juan Matus if he really is him or no, would it answer the truth?) I've heard from Miles on his webinars that his talking to Carlos very often even before webinars his taking his advices on how to organize it better so how possible is that? and if the total freedom is the 3rd attention is it possible to come back from this 3rd attention into some one dream?)

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u/danl999 7 points 2020-03-06 21:32

Beats me.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 5 points 2020-03-06 21:57

You're worrying about how to pass out the birthday cake, before you've even collected the ingredients to make it.

Get to the point where you can intend to meet them yourself, and then ASK; and you'll have the truth right from the horses mouth, and maybe some precious advice/suggestions too!

Edit: subtext, right now it's all just mental masturbation that's likely to drain away some of your energy to practice....unless the desire to meet don Juan is a strong enough motivator on it's own.

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u/xoloescuintle 2 points 2020-03-07 01:44

There are some people who says that Don Juan is still alive (in the third attention) and teaching those who can reach him. Castaneda is still alive (in the third attention too). However he is not willing to teach anyone.

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u/rabelias4354 2 points 2020-03-07 02:59

Well I guess if it's on Facebook it must be true.
( I better say I'm kidding just in case )
I have a friend who's a Reiki master, who meditates all the time, and insisted that in his meditations he's met Jesus. He asked me if I thought he was crazy. I told him if he thinks it's Jesus it's probably psych ward time, however if he perceives some energy that he can't comprehend or interpret maybe he just perceived it to be something familiar like Jesus.
Anyway, he didn't go to the psych ward.

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u/bebedeluz 2 points 2020-03-07 13:38

Even if they reached total freedom, in the second attention there is no linear time-space. So an encounter is possible. Inorganics can’t lie but you have to ask the right questions because they can still fool you, so you can direct the silent knowledge and ask “what’s the energy behind this?” any mask falls off.

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u/dissysissy 1 points 2020-03-08 14:34

In the books Don Juan tells Carlos he himself denied learning from the Inorganics and the Death Defier, so I assume he shot for freedom. If he made it, who knows?