Would someone kindly explain or direct me to where I can find information on the gap at the navel and the umbilical?
I had been feeling a weird sensation at my naval off and on for a while, then I had a vision a few nights ago that an umbilical sprang from it. I thought it was bizarre, then decided it must be a metaphor for connecting to Mother Earth or something...
Now I just came across a web page on Castaneda that mentioned a gap at the navel and an umbilical and death, but there was no real explanation beyond that. So it seems it's a real thing? I'm trying to understand more.
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It is scattered across Carlos' books. You can try book 7 for more info on that, but other books have a lot of information as well.
Okay, thank you!
Carlos never emphasized that in class. I'm not sure he even brought it up.
But, he was trying to herd us into practicing, so maybe things outside what he was trying to accomplish were inappropriate.
Hmmm okay. Well I can understand wanting to keep people focused. I’m curious about it now though. There must be some significance.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Well, I might as well pile on.
There's nothing at all wrong with wondering about that. I do too.
And I even like to see that question myself! I'm curious also.
My suspicion is that if you want to find out, use the V spot passes, plus Zuleica's sweeping the floor technique.
That one REALLY works. I've touched the floor twice with a tentacle. It felt so real, I would have sworn it was my hand, or my foot. But they had no way to reach it.
I'm connecting those, because of don Genaro's demonstration at the waterfall.
His "will" came out. I suspect that's also associated with the gap, or at least it's in the same area.
Not that it answers your question directly, but you won't find anything useful in another inventory item.
Think about it! What good would it do you, if someone came along and gave you the precise answer, directly from one of Carlos' books?
You WOULD NOT BE closer to learning sorcery.
You would be further away.
Can you see why yet?
Remember when Yoda got annoyed with Luke, and said, "Nothing further will I teach you today!"
Luke was going the wrong direction, into endless intellectual pursuits instead of direct experience.
That's what did in all of Carlos' apprentices.
They thought they could learn sorcery.
You can't.
Ha! Well that’s fair.
When I get visions like that though, my intuition is trying to communicate something to me, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I was drawn to this sub, had a vision of an umbilical, then read about Carlos mentioning it.
Maybe it’s a red herring. Or maybe it’s just meant to point me back towards sorcery. Or maybe it’s an alien screwing with me. Who knows.
I did just discover the V spot practices and was trying them out last night. I’ll look for the floor sweeping thing.
Thanks again! (:
Cool!
About V spot:
For me it's always the same. It gathers energy into a wall in front of me, around 2 feet wide, and 6 feet high, 4 feet away from me.
When it gets stronger, a being of some kind shows up.
I have no idea who it is. Might even be a strange reflection of myself, like in an energy mirror.
Eeeeeeeee! I’m so excited. My little purple light and I communicated for the first time!
First I got a vision of someone sketching with a pencil the shape of the first set of V passes. I recognized it from reading and watching the videos. Then the black swirl to the left of the purple light imitated the motion so I could make the connection.
I kinda wanted to sleep in past 4:30a today. But when a witch’s cat and her black swirls (I get 2 or more sometimes, do you?) tell her to get up and do magical passes, then I guess it’s time to get up lol
Visitors?
Yea, it's puzzling. But quite common.
Resist the temptation to turn it into an ego boosting chapter in your book deal.
That’s the most common result. People who practice sorcery tend to be a bit broken (or they’re crazy nerds).
If something wasn’t wrong with them, they’d be out chasing happiness with everyone else.
And they’re typically a little demented.
I mean, come on???? Sorcery? Are you daft!?
They have a bad habit at first of being so desperate for something to make themselves feel better that they’ll take a visitor during practice as some important event.
It’s probably not. The most likely explanation most of the time is going to be IOBs who discovered a chance to elicit some emotions from you.
And whoever you thought they were, was your own doing.
But visitors can be more than that at times.
One time I was lost. I'd stopped the world, but went blank.
God only knows where I was. I must have been there a half hour, sitting up on pillows on the bed, leaning back against the headboard.
It’s actually possible to stop the world, and get trapped somewhere.
Not likely, but possible. Your spirit, or whatever, gets trapped there and your body goes fully cataleptic.
Sorcerers even guard each other, in case of that event.
It doesn’t come up much in the books, but it’s in there.
I know, because Leigh was an expert on stuff like that. And on IOBs.
But more likely than getting trapped is, you end up waking up hours later and have no clue what just happened.
Likely I'd have forgotten all about that one time.
And it's important to notice when you stopped the world so you start to understand what causes that.
I talk about it like it’s no big deal, and in fact it probably isn't in the long run.
It's just a stage break while they change the props.
But it’s extremely rare to be able to do it, at our level.
I suspect intent has to gift you. It’s a gift you need at that point, and losing it is a terrible waste.
I would have lost that one. I wasn't even coherent enough for a thumbs up.
I heard Kylie's voice: "DANIEL LAWTON!!!!"
Kylie was Carlos’ #1 drill sergeant. No one wanted to cross Kylie. She could kill with a stare.
That's the only reason I know now what happened.
There are many very good things to learn in sorcery so that you realize, Carlos wasn't making it up!
It's important to come to that realization, because it's so darned much work to make even the tiniest thing happen!
Not remembering something that happened while you are awake, and maybe only a minute or two ago, is a big convincer.
It matches with what Carlos said about forgetting all those interactions he had in heightened awareness.
Once you realize that’s true, you’ve built a defense against people who say the later books were just add-ons to sell more.
Are you saying we only have one black swirl, and if I see more it belongs to another person? Human or non-human or all of the above? Sorry not familiar with IOBs. Still learning the terminology here.
I had a swarm of them one time. Anything in a swarm makes me think of a legion of demons and it scared the shit out me. The cloud of them was blocking my purple light. That’s why I went to the guru who was useless in answering my questions.
As far as the ego, yeah, it’s a constant battle. Thanks for keeping me in check. I could use it.
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Wow. I have to be careful. I didn't know it was so easy to misunderstand me.
The black swirl is part of a "whorl". Carlos talked about them only twice that I know of. Once with the blue scout by his side, and while holding up a painting of "the wall".
Later, just to reference that this is where text comes from.
It's a purple or other colored blob, with a blackness consuming it. It swirls (clockwise for me), and the black erases it. But the purple burns on as it circles, constantly re-generating, so that it looks like a yin/yang symbol.
The thing about "the whorl, or sworl" is, it's intense on the edges.
That can spin off things. Manifest different effects, such as text you can read.
According to Carlos, the text spins off a pomegranate dot.
I haven't seen that, but perhaps the pomegranate dot is created by the intense edges of the whorl.
That's very refined seeing, to catch that kind of detail.
I can read the text. But I never noticed specifically which point in space it came from.
It's more like, "Shit! That really is text. What on earth does it say???"
But, the puffs of purple color are more useful if you ask me.
I suspect you're seeing a variation on the puffs.
On those, the blackness isn't as obvious. It's on the whorl, that you might be able to scoop some out into your hands.
The black makes a "hole" in reality, into which you can reach, and pull out things.
But I've written a bunch about how to use those purple puffs. Or smears.
Just look at almost any Tensegrity long series, to see how to scoop purple energy (redeploy it).
There's also the purple fog, which I suspect is being behind the wall of fog.
On our own power, I guess we just end up there, instead of needing someone else to pull us across.
We still have to face the head turning obstacle, but instead it's with the intense puffs of color. They are non-directional at first. They turn with the head.
Good thing I suspect. When they don't, your skin will crawl!
Demons?
Go ahead and let the shit get scared out of you.
This is war. You can't be a cry baby.
Just make up your mind to be eaten alive by demons, tortured, and spend the rest of eternity in hell.
Then, you have nothing to lose.
And you'll have overcome the tendency to run to mommy with your boo-boos, to get attention for yourself.
There's a type of student I run across often, who only wants to cry and get attention by worrying about something they can't even do.
They like to imagine how frightened they'll be, when they encounter inorganic beings.
What???? You can't even do that. Stop fantasizing! You'll never learn.
Not talking to you, but I suspect the person I'm talking to knows who they are.
Sorry. It's the "genuine" experience of listening to Carlos lecture.
Nothing went unchallenged, even if it came up several lectures later, in disguised fashion. He had to continuously adjust the intent.
So everyone was likely to become a bad story during lectures.
The purple swirls and the inorganics can't do anything to you!
You WISH you were so lucky!
At worst, if they take an interest they might take you to their world and not let you leave.
My guess: if you do this all on your own, they CAN'T.
We learn all the cracks you can slip through, because we don't have anyone helping us out.
If some rich guy named Juan takes you to his warehouse of goodies, and lets you select some items, it's a LOT different than if you're a scout, like Cholita.
Cholita figures out how to break into the warehouse, without permission.
She knows all the ways to escape, if she's discovered.
She's been singing at night the last couple of days, because she pulled off a wonderful maneuver.
With no money she flew to DC in the middle of a plague, then to Miami, and returned home after 2 weeks with Minx at her side.
That's us. We have no money. We have to be more like Cholita.
Cholita doesn't worry about demon bites. She sets up protection spells instead.
And be sure to sing AFTER you accomplish the task, as Cholita does.
Not before, as newbies tend to do in here.
I now have passage 2 feet into Fairy's world.
I asked her to be closer, as in, give me some hugs and come visit more often.
She took me literally, and obliged.
Closer = physically near to her real self.
I'm surprised at that turn of events.
But I'm not afraid of getting stuck there.
Maybe she's actually a demon.
But I don't care. No one's perfect.
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Eh, it’s probably my lack of knowledge. I’m starting one of the books right now, so I’ll be able to follow you better. Lots of new concepts.
I’m sooooo happy though. Things I’ve been experiencing are finally clicking and making perfect sense. I’m definitely on the right path, finally.
Thanks for clarifying all that. I gotcha now.
Lmao! I may resemble that remark...
That sounds like a blast!
That's why it's the "path with heart".
I almost hurl a little in my mouth, when I read Reni's workshop drones use that phrase.
It means, they found a happy family to delude themselves with.
A "path with heart". Lots of "fellow hearts" and they have to accept your nasty personality so that you'll accept theirs.
There's even Miguel's nasty Goddesses, to share with now.
Apparently Miguel's just as good as Carlos, to cleargreen.
But in fact, the path with heart is magic.
No magic, no path.
By the way, demons = inorganic beings.
Religions have so distorted what they are, that it's become meaningless.
Even our beloved Tibetan Buddhism seems clueless about demons.
They are what you are. Beings without a physical body, who like our emotions. And reflect them back.
True, they like our company a little too much. But they also like to help us out, and we live for such a short time.
I could see them thinking it wasn't so bad to let us live 10,000 years longer in their world.
We like them too. As much as they like us. They enable us to do more than we're capable of, earlier than we would have on our own.
That's important, when you don't have "daddy don Juan" to help you out.
Inorganics don't bite, unless you want them to.
I had a lover like that. Won't bit unless you want her to.
And even then, inorganic or organic, it doesn't leave an actual mark.
Or in other words accept that the worst thing that you dread could possibly happen, if you do nothing, will happen.
Therefore doing moves you away from the delusion of unalterable fate. There is a clause: Fate accepts petitions...backed by sincere, willed, monumental and demonstrated effort.
It doesn't respond to anything less.
Some people seem to want a guarantee that sorcery is safe.
It's NOT!!!!
And even the Buddhists know that.
They tell students to ignore real magic as it happens during meditation.
That’s not to help you.
That’s to keep you safe.
Cash paying customers are hard to find!
If you really want safe, go study with a me-too Nagual.
You know the type.
They’ll make you into a “goddess”, or hook you up with a “new lineage”.
You’ll be up to your ears in “agreements” and journals.
Since they’re frauds, you’re safe from their magic. They aren’t going to zap you the way don Juan did.
And even better, they’ll fill your head with the kind of poison that prevents any possibility of learning.
The me, me, me type of stuff.
They’ll also unhook you from the intent of the sorcerers of ancient Mexico, so you won’t get any “gifts” that help you break through the difficulty of doing real magic.
But look around you.
Is it safe NOT to learn real magic?
It’s not my kind of safe!
But it is true, this subreddit could result in several people being trapped in another world.
Maybe some day a hoard of angry sorcerers will track me and Cholita down, and toss us off a mountain.
Except that Cholita will change sides and lead them…
Here’s some precautions you can take to reduce the danger.
Don’t push and pull on inorganic beings. Let them show you, but don’t touch.
Learn not to be afraid of them as fast as possible. Let them make their scariest faces. Use silence to have no reaction.
Assembling other worlds is amazingly easy. I mean, it’s inevitable with silence.
Just don’t enter them. Let them form on “the wall”, and watch only.
If you find yourself in another one and you didn’t plan it, be careful what you look at.
There’s the example of Carlos finding an alien newspaper and getting excited. The commentary was that if he’d kept that up, Carol and him might have gotten confused and thought they belonged there.
If you want to know what that feels like, just practice lucid dreaming. Sometimes you realize you’re in a dream, find your hands, but then there’s that dream phantom doggy who needs the donut on his tail.
And you just can’t let go, so you return to the nonsensical dream.
That’s what can happen in another world, except that it’s probably 10 times stickier.
If you’re inside something, like a shack, don’t go outside. If you got there by accident, you have no business looking around.
Re-runs are ok. If you have the feeling that you’re in don Juan or Carlos’ group, it’s probably a re-run.
But you won’t be aware of that at the time, so I guess that’s just after the fact book-keeping.
How in the world you can ignore inorganic being which stares at you with frantic attitude? or how you can ignore the open window into inorganic beings world? I mean the buddists who fight to stop internal dialogue for ages, eventually the must stop the world sooner or later, so why don't they witness other worlds, luminous egg, inorganic beings and other energetic facts, sooner or later one of them must have told already to internet community that Buddism leads nowhere but what you can achieve is the inner silence and this could lead to magic events.... Why buddists ignore inorganic beings and their worlds as well as other magic effects of silence? they must have discuss it on their internet forums and gatherings, you can not avoid it too long and hide forever, can you?
Basically they have the long view and see that while they are an important end to the process, they aren't the ultimate end...Buddhahood being the ultimate aim.
But in their zeal for the ultimate of ultimates, they forgot that you don't get there without embodying the "cool stuff" as Dan puts it, and moving onward with those hard-fought capacities.
Thus they revel in the status afforded by their superior and exhalted path (deluded into thinking they don't need those pesky superpowers)...and since they've been told they have multiple lifetimes to get there, they have no urgency, and thus no real chance.
This is only true of/with a percentage of Buddhist sects (but more than it should be).
Yes!!!!!
You're finally getting it!
It's that, "How come no one knows about this????" moment.
Carlos had it too. He lectured us about it several times.
About the guru who fell down the stairs in front of him, and died.
About the female leader of a big movement, who only wanted to fuck him.
He had quite a few of those stories.
If you find real magic, you go looking for more.
And find none.
Book deals are the death of all esoteric doctrines.
But they start out, with real knowledge.
The real advanced Buddhists, the ones written about like the Buddha and his 4 closest disciples, did it all.
People post stuff about this as we go on.
There was the Fire Kasina texts, Milarepa, and that Elephant story. And don’t forget Shinzen.
Anyone have the link to the Fire Kasina texts posted recently in here?
Buddha was playing with inorganics! And dancing girls to boot!
If you’re asking why people who meditate allow themselves to be castrated, declawed, turned into dunces, it’s easy to explain.
They’re not after what they claim they are!
They want the Buddhist equivalent of a “book deal”.
They want to “embrace” their meditation community.
They have all the HORRIBLE desires the people in here do, which hold them back from actually learning.
The difference is, in here, at least you have me kicking your butt!
Otherwise, this subreddit would only be inspirational quotes, as it was for years.
Out there, no one is kicking anyone’s butt, because everyone is after money.
And do they discuss it among themselves?
I’ve tried. You get lynched.
Meditation “police” are everywhere.
I even got busted a time or two, in the beginning of me coming here.
People love to be “experts”.
And that’s as far as they’ll get, with the book deal mind.
To be a chat group expert.
They’ll beat up anyone who challenges their supposed knowledge.
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Actually they don't!
They practice a form of meditation which merely alters it.
I've never seen any that shut if off.
And not only do you have to shut it off, to learn sorcery, but you have to keep it off for 2 hours, so it moves far enough to perceive the second attention.
Zen masters, I suppose, do shut it off.
Indirectly.
Certainly there's a westernized one who says he does.
But it's not enough to shut it off. You have to make the assemblage point move.
If you're sitting on a little Zen master throne, it won't move.
You'll "indulge in being a master" as don Juan explained.
Go listen to Shinzen.
He had a fairy standing on his hand!
He made fun of it, and decided to ignore that whole direction.
Instead, he does YouTube videos.
It's obvious what Shinzen is after.
Attention.
But thank god he is!
Keep it up Shinzen. I'm just a grouchy old men.
So what buddists are proud of? they can't be really silent may be only during meditations, they can not stop the world and see energy body? What is their final aim as Nirvana? is it equal to our 3rd attention concept in nagualism? I know that buddists focus only on world of suffering and when they meditate they escape it but when they stop they return to suffering. I just don't get why so many people are into buddism, what does it bring to them, besides being a religious cult?
Buddhism can go as far as we go.
But they've been burdened by false explanations.
That's what happens when sorcery turns into a religion. False explanations get added on.
The reason for that is simple: People love "secrets". They believe they can learn, by accumulating more inventory.
As for the Buddhists, we all encounter the second attention daily.
We've just made excuses for it.
That was just a dream!
I only saw that because I have a fever. Or I was super frightened.
That weird sensation in the morning is just blood flow increasing.
The vision I just had was just a partial dream.
We make endless excuses.
So the Buddhists use some meditation technique, and it interrupts their internal dialogue.
Then weird stuff happens.
But they don't pursue it.
Sorcery is a very very long road, not a gate.
I guess if the Buddhists see inorganic beings, they either admit humans can manufacture realistic things like that, but they're just interesting and not useful. Shinzen does that. He sees all kinds of inorganic beings, but blows them off as only a curiousity.
(And at least he talks openly about it!)
Or, a Buddhist who sees an inorganic might decide it was a "Demon", as Milarepa did.
So they don't play with them, and explore it further.
You really have to play with it, as much of the day as you can, if you want to reach Silvio Manuel's level.
But some Tibetan Buddhists clearly reach that level.
I ran into one in an airport in Asia.
I was trying to see his energy.
He caught me!
He exploded in a blaze of yellow light so bright, I nearly fell over. I was dazed, looked to where he had walked, and found other monks surrounding him.
He was clearly their leader, and almost surely a double being.
After he was gone, when I closed my eyes there was his face. Looking back at me.
He burned it into my eyes.
It lasted several hours.
How to react if its going straight towards you, to run in escape?) i mean you could avoid pushing or pulling it but what if its pushing you? Carlos told you can wrestle them to the ground but i don't think its a good idea if your'e not the professional wrestler( The same question relate to sleeping dreaming, what to do if inorganic being going towards you and you feel danger, how you can stop it?
I believe I posted about wrestling.
Don't!
If it forces itself on you, then push back.
Push back until it gives in, even if you feel you're doomed.
It's the change in emotions that stops them.
But, I'm afraid you'll have to run away a time or two. I did.
Eventually though, you realize, they can't do anything.
Except help you.
Think of them like a shark, attracted to blood in the water.
The scent.
The scent is fear. Your fear.
They love it!
But if it's gone, they stop immediately.
Well, maybe a blind shark would be a better analogy. So once the scent is gone, they have no way to find you.
I can be face to face with one now, without any reaction at all.
I'm not sure when that happened. Maybe only when Cholita brought home Minx, who is as bright as Carlos' entities.
Minx is intense! (Came to visit me last night).
But he got no reaction from me at all. So he stopped being scary.
Surely that's why don Juan could hang out with Carlos, while Carlos was being terrorized at the rock, by 12 inorganic beings.
Don Juan could just stand there calmly advising him, because don Juan didn't have anything they were after.
Pushing and pulling on them is another matter.
That means you "made friends" with them.
They'll take more interest.
And you'll get a poltergeist.
I love poltergeists, but some people are afraid if objects in the home start moving on their own.
Not me, not Cholita.
By the way, Carlos taught us about all this SPECIFICALLY as he was dying.
In great detail.
Inorganic beings. He emphasized them for a few days.
He pointed out them moving things in the dance home.
It just seemed too far out there at the time, so everyone thought he was losing it.
But what he pointed out, I've seen too.
Frankly, I think he saw that I'd come here and talk to you guys.
Or, he read off the wall, what to say next.
And intent knew how to bring it about later on.
So he was backing me up, to make sure I had no doubts about what I would see in the future.
So what else did he teach about them? Carlos advised to make friends with them or to avoid them as Don Juan was leaning to?
No, he didn't advise to avoid them.
He was passing them on to us!
And don Juan didn't exactly ignore them. He had them around his belt in gourds! He made them portable.
Don Juan just said, he didn't like them.That's all.
I think this whole misunderstanding comes from mental "book deals".
Not able to actually do anything, people decide they're going to be "good", and shun inorganic beings.
It's like someone who has no money for food, deciding they aren't going to eat any candy.
And they feel superior for that, even though, they can't afford anything at all to eat!
With the old sorcerers, the big problem that made them bad wasn't inorganic beings.
It was murder and cannibalism! They were terrible people.
They even tortured little creatures to gain benefit.
They cut off people's heads!
Go watch Mel Gibson's, "Apocalypto" to understand what was bad about the old sorcerers.
I'm not sure how the purist view got started in the Castaneda community.
But I believe it doesn't even agree with the books.
Don Juan used the inorganics to help each of his apprentices.
Carlos was up to his ears in them! Mescalito, the little smoke, the Devil's weed ally.
The moth. Probably even the mushroom shapes.
All merely don Juan's inorganics helping one way or the other.
Or maybe Genaro's too.
They had 2 each.
Carlos only got 2 of them.
He passed them on, but they're shared.
Reni and Miles are welcome to them.
But from what they write and say, seems like they never learned to perceive them.
Myself, I love Fairy and Minx.
Those are helpful inorganics.
Even though Fairy would like me to move in with her.
I have plenty of old girlfriends who would like that.
Fairy is no different.
I'm kind of hoping Minx is gay.
She followed Cholita home.
I missed your question about specifics.
What did he teach us specifically?
He kept us distracted doing tensegrity for a day or two, while lecturing about them.
I don't remember much of it! That's the horrible part.
And no one from then to come here and reconstruct it.
I only remember while talking about them, the water cooler would make a noise, and he'd say, "That's them!"
More than twice.
Something about the kitchen too? And Ellis?
I'm certain, everyone thought he was nuts. Or was losing it.
But, when he finally introduced us to them directly, by having them swoop from upper right, to lower left, the way Carlos was first introduced to them around a campfire, the water cooler burped just as he was doing it.
Right on Que!
He also told the story of their watery world, and how they take advantage of weaknesses. Such as his illness.
He wanted to give us the impression, they were after him that very moment.
He WANTED us afraid of them!
Maybe that helps introduce them, since fear is about all that might make you perceive them, in the absence of silence.
No one did.
About the water cooler...
It was perfect, because after pushing and pulling on them in their own world, having forgotten what was written about that, I saw water do very impossible things in the shower.
Carlos couldn't have set me up better, to get "proof" after the experience.
Proof AFTER the experience is far better, than proof before it.
Because with proof before it, you never know if you were influenced.
He also went out of his way, in his last books, to give us a test:
Phantom or inorganic?
He gave us a test for that!
If he didn't want us to make use of them, he sure went about convincing us to ignore them in a very poor fashion.
Let me repeat again: If you hear someone say it's bad to play with inorganics, you've got someone fantasizing.
It's a puffed up fake sorcerer, being snobbish about something they can only imagine.
The snobbishness gives them a little surge of pride.
That's a poor substitute for Fairy or Minx.
I wasn't feeling well last night, and Minx came to soothe me!
She literally seemed worried.
I'll have to pay special attention to Cholita tonight, in case she brought back COVID19, and we both have it now.
She was flying around in airplanes at the height of the troubles.
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These, along with the assemblage point scooping (doorknob-esque) should be at the top of your scribbled list of Magical Passes to video. They seem deceivingly simple, but hard to get right (confidently).
Several others have come up on here also..maybe the 'from feet up to mirror with hands and then splash over head one' from the conference center.
Tensegrity can feel kind of awkward if you don't have confidence you're doing it quite right (or at least in the ballpark).
Also, about the best example of the damage of panaceas is cryonics. Why even worry about mortality or actually evolving when you can be an unthawed corpsicle who can bless the future with your specialness, and shift the responsibility onto them to make you better.
The ultimate excuse to not do.
The Taiwanese Bosses' son has volunteered, but I'd still rather get Cholita to do it.
And the Taiwanese bosses' son has had a very hard time learning even the first technique Carlos ever taught us.
He said I only thought it was easy, because I used to do martial arts.
lmao
Okay, I definitely hear you guys. My purple light is nagging me to do them as well, so I’ve been convinced. Magical passes it is!
This point with Genaro and waterfall always was a mistery to me when reading the book, was it physical body of Genaro or dreaming body, if it was his energy body so what was his risk about? but if he was doing it physically how could he do it?
Yea I know. That's the bane of our existence!
You put in all the hard work, but everything you experience is not enough to convince anyone else.
They say, it's all in your head. You hallucinated. It’s self-induced schizophrenia!
Even breaking the laws of physics isn't enough.
Cholita uses Fairy, the low energy inorganic I named a few days ago, to move objects.
I see it fly next to something, a golf ball size puff of light, and the object moves. But only when Cholita gazes at it with the intent for it to do something.
Inorganics love thrilling interactions because it releases more energy!
You'd think that would be good enough to get people excited, and maybe even motivated to give it a try.
I mentioned it over in the Tulpa subreddit and essentially what I got was, "Show me a video or get out of here. We don't want to be associated with craziness! We're working hard to make this into a legitimate science."
Uhhhh….. Excuse me?
When did you hear someone making that claim? From my experience, NEVER. It’s not common to make such claims.
When someone does, and it sounds sober, you ought to be interested.
They aren’t.
Think about it! First the argument is, if there really is magic, where is it? How come we don't hear about it?
If you say, "It's over here you idiot!".
They say, "You're delusional!"
Nothing is good enough to break the world spell against magic.
And we NEED to. This is WAR.
Wanna be a "warrior"?
The war isn't in your pants. Get over that!
It's out there. With the Dark Magicians.
It's going to take something like bodily breaking the laws of physics, with spectators around.
But can that be done in the physical body?
We just don't know!
I point to Carlos and La Gorda flying.
It’s disturbing, because when it was over they were laying on the ground, not having remembered how they got there.
I’ve leaped through portals to other worlds.
When you get back, you’re laying on the bed.
Most likely thing is, it’s a quick transition to our dreaming double.
And the dreaming double does the work, not your physical body.
HOWEVER, it’s written all over the place, that physical matter can in fact come along.
It just keeps coming up in notes people post.
The last were those notes about the loud and the silent, and other techniques of the old sorcerers.
Some of those included manipulation of their physical matter.
My guess: yes, you can do what Genaro did in his physical body.
But it’s extremely advanced, and in a group of 15 sorcerers, probably only 2 will be able to do that.
Sorcery lineages have people of various skill levels. Some at the bottom might be lucky to be able to sit in a chair with eyes closed, and travel in dreaming.
That might be the extent of the abilities of some.
(Pity.)
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Totally.
I want to prove magic is real. But full disclosure, I have a bit of a feminist agenda. Men have all the superheroes — Jesus, Buddha, all the big names. Women need someone on that level. (I’m sure there were women throughout history, they probably just didn’t make it into the books.)
Makes me feel competitive.
I know you’re going to get on me for my ego. But I want to do something really impressive to set the record straight.
Of course, like you’re suggesting, if people aren’t ready for it, they’ll just dismiss it as fake no matter what I do.
We have Cholita already for a feminist superhero.
True, she's insane.
But that didn't bother Carlos (much).
More feminine super heros would be nice.
Maybe a sane one.
She sounds fascinating. I’d say I’d love to meet her, but truthfully she sounds intimidating.
I want to use her to pass on Carlos' allies, once she can get control of her moods.
I don't want them lost, when I die.
Although, Miles and Aerin have access. I hope they read this, and learn to call them.
I finally just learned what you’re talking about when you say ally. I’m reading Separate Reality, where it talks about how if you smoke certain medicinal plants enough, you can become one with them. That’s what happened to me with marijuana. I was smoking it to cure PTSD, then kept using it as a meditation aid for a couple of years until I didn’t need it anymore. It’s been making its presence known to me but I didn’t have the framework to make sense of it. Pretty neat.
Out at Morongo Indian reservation, where Carlos got his start, they brew the leaves of Datura (Devil's Weed), to make a tea.
The tea teaches you to summon the Ally. Unfortunately, I don't think they ever learn to summon it without the tea.
There's no reason. The tribe loves it when the shaman goes into the hut and starts the religious ceremony, drinking the tea.
They all wait to see what the Ally has told the tribe, this time.
Unfortunately, in western society if it's from the tea, it's invalid.
Last night I expanded a dream I found floating in the purple fog.
First I held it a long time, moving it back and forth between the room, and my hand.
I was waiting for Minx or Cholita, but they didn't show up. Fairy barely made an appearance.
Cholita was dancing and singing in her room. I guess that was more fun than me.
Finally, I got the idea to let that dream expand, and surround me.
I realized, it's not necessary to summon a vision of the living room, then "turn around" and enter it in my dreaming body, in order to merge waking dreaming and lucid dreaming.
And while it's cool you can confine the dream to your hand, it's rather limited.
But you can just expand the dream to surround you!
I held that 8 hours, blowing off my urgent desire to watch Magnum PI and drink wine, after the 3rd hour.
I was hoping to wake up in that dream, and remain sleepwalking all day long.
I mentioned all that to the Taiwanese Bosses' son just now.
He wanted to know, for the 20th time, was it from too much wine?
No!!!!
Shit.
Wine hurts it. Makes it harder.
In all fairness, there are Chinese stories about men getting too drunk, and walking into spirit worlds.
Still... Come on!
There's a prejudice in this society that if magic happens, there's "something wrong".
And that extends to power plants.
We don't need to be saints. Fuck anyone who tells me I can't drink wine, because I have to set an example.
And Reni can put down the sugar, because it makes her annoying to Carlos.
But I'll pick up a 2 pound box of Sees candy, and we'll see who has more fun and better health.
The dark magicians will find any excuse to denounce you.
And even "sorcerers" who are trying to earn cash, will deceive you to further their business. They'll figure out your worst impulses, like sugar is bad, or we all want to be part of a lineage, it's fun to keep a journal of your dreams, and play those placebos up to keep you dumb.
In my opinion, Ruby at Morongo should have tried to learn not to need the tea.
It would have been a lot cooler! Might even have become widely known, instead of leaving her in obscurity.
With the tea it's a hallucination.
Without it, it's magic!
Tea brewing is relatively simple (but still dangerous, so don't any of you try it).
Carlos has a very elaborate version of that in his books.
I guess you'll read about it.
John, also from Morongo, was likely using the more elaborate approach.
There's no problem at Morongo, to keep track of your plants. They've been growing along the main road for at least 60 years. That's how long ago I first saw all those Devil's weed plants.
But keep in mind.
This part is so frigging cool, I feel guilty for saying it.
I'll piss off a lot of demented "me-too sorcerers".
I have those allies!
The very same ones you're reading about!
Carlos passed them to us.
I would just love to pass them on to you guys.
Or, maybe Cholita will have to do that. She took them from me.
They only make "guest appearances" now.
Cleargreen and Cleargreen #2 had access, but they seem to have learned nothing more, since Carlos left.
So I guess they aren't making use of the Allies.
I named Fairy and Minx. Fairy was the first inorganic I learned to summon, and Minx is the one Cholita just brought back from wherever she was homeless.
I named Carlos' allies also, because it seems useful.
I call them Pajamas and Shy.
You don't want to give those guys any scary names. They're bad enough already.
Pajamas likes to play a professor on occasion. Twice I've seen him do that!
Shy likes to be an assistant, if you're awake.
But inside a dream, he becomes a very frightening demon.
I believe for Carlos, while awake, they were a rabid coyote and angry Puma?
Anyone remember?
And for La Gorda, Indian rapist #1 and #2.
Forget that description!
The first time I saw them, the one that likes you to be awake was wearing Mexican Machuy (simple cotton clothing) shirt and pants.
Or maybe that's a brand name.
It's a white cotton shirt and pants, with just a plain sleeve, no collar, and the pants have a tie string.
Yoga clothes?
It looked to me like Pajamas because I didn't know about Mexican peasant clothing.
The second was hiding behind him. Crouched down, so I only saw his head and hands. He shrunk to fit behind the first.
In dreaming, they reverse positions. The shy one is aggressive in dreams. Pajamas hangs out behind you, causing annoyances.
I supposed, different energy types? Waking and dreaming energy?
But there won't be any way to know that, until you guys start interacting with them.
Come on guys, don't let me figure it out alone!
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Is there a reason Carlos couldn't take them with him?
What color is there glow? Carlos talked about one being vibrant green
Did Florinda or Taisha have allies?
Does Carol Tiggs have any link to the allies? It would seem that being the Nagual woman, they would be attracted to her energy...
What do your personal allies do for you? the Fairy and Minx? What type of emotion do you emit towards them to attract them?
Incredible! I can’t wait to begin my journey. Your the best resource I’ve found.
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Do you have any kids?
Not being disrespectful. They will tug on you, regardless of where they are.
No, that's not what this was. No kids.
It's got something to do with this:
Carlos Castaneda and the Death Defier
The words of Carlos Castaneda: Abridged From A Tensegrity Lecture
https://chaparral.space/wiki/Lecture_1995_Castaneda,_Death_Defier
Though this may be counter productive by simply adding to your educational inventory on the subject, I believe this is first discussed in chapter 10 of A Separate Reality. Its development is closely linked with taking death as an advisor.
"What gap are you talking about?" "There is a gap in us; like the soft spot on the head of a child which closes with age, this gap opens as one develops one's will." "Where is that gap?" "At the place of your luminous fibers," he said, pointing to his abdominal area. "What is it like? What is it for?" "It's an opening. It allows a space for the will to shoot out, like an arrow." Is the will an object? Or like an object?" "No. I just said that to make you understand. What a sorcerer calls will is a power within ourselves. It is not a thought, or an object, or a wish. To stop asking questions is not will because it needs thinking and wishing. Will is what can make you succeed when your thoughts tell you that you're defeated. Will is what makes you invulnerable. Will is what sends a sorcerer through a wall; through space; to the moon, if he wants.
I listened to a story by Adyashanti today about how aligning with his death instantly gave him a unity with his world and a power and clarity to climb a rock face. It speaks surprisingly well to the question of will.
https://youtu.be/xRvE6a0Cr6E
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Yes! Thank you so much. This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
I’m interested in sorcery primarily to do healing. It makes total sense that I would need to make friends with death first.
I'm glad you find that helpful!
Would this be the lower dan tien?
I was hoping someone else would see your question and answer. I’m wondering the same thing.
After the umbilical dream, maybe a couple days later, I could feel energy converge in my lower abdomen, which I believe is that area, right? It’s like it pulled it from all across my body and compacted it there. Not positive that was directly related to the umbilical but the timing was close enough to make me think so.
I haven’t read all the books, only two. So maybe it’s somewhere I haven’t read. But there is a lot of talk about collecting power. If it’s collected in a specific location in the body, this would make sense.