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u/danl999
7 points2020-05-05 15:45
It's normal to run out of things to do. It's one of the steps to mastering lucid dreaming.
I'm afraid, to find more things to do, you'd have to resort to Carlos Castaneda's books. He has it mapped out.
I made it to the 4th gate after intense effort over decades, but neglected to fine tune where I landed in the real world.
I'm going back from dreaming awake, because the lucidity is permanent. If you aren't asleep, you never lose lucidity and can hold the dreams as long as you like.
But if you want some hints:
Don't interfere with dream phantoms, get to know them.
Learn to dissolve the troublesome ones with your stare. It's like trying to read a book. The text keeps changing.
If you do that, you'll find one that won't go away, and now you have a permanent companion in dreaming, if you interact with him on a daily basis.
Also, dreams inside dreams can give you 2 weeks in a lucid dream, fairly easily. Don't worry, it's only a long night in the real world.
Unfortunately, the worlds you enter while asleep are very low energy. They dissolve into nothing at the drop of a hat.
You're far better off to learn to be mentally silent (no internal dialogue), because you can access worlds that have their own energy, and never dissolve.
And you don't have to fight for lucidity in those. You start out awake, a portal opens up on your bedroom wall, and you walk in.
Just don't stay too long, or you might never come back.
You've only scratched the surface!
A safer practice is to learn to summon "dreaming fog". The room fills with it (it has to be pitch black), and dreams surround you on all sides.
Even tiny little "micro-dreams". You can just slowly sweep your head, and pass through 100 dreams in a minute.
I'm a former private class student of Carlos Castaneda.
I'm not pulling your leg.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-05-05 21:03recovered
What's your primary motivation in this life, Dan?
Do you want to connect with Carol Tiggs; is she leading the modern sorcery charge (in terms of lineage, not worldwide) ?
Is she really still here?
What type of dream do you like to go into the most?
I'm interested in what a practitoner at your stage truly believes in.
(Belief without believing lol)
Do you want to shift the assemblage point of the world, like Carlos proclaimed to Armando was his Task while in his life?
I apologize for being obtrusive with my previous posts, I got carried away .. hopefully you'll look past my histrionics and understand I'm not a psycho haha.
I come from a Stalker's perspective.
Thanks
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u/jd198703
2 points2020-05-06 12:34
Is she really still here?
I am not Dan, but yes, Carol is still around. She sometimes appears at Cleargreen workshops. I know some people previously associated with Cleargreen who know and met her. How much is she really involved in decision making there - other question, where my answer is don't know.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-08 00:03
They're all probably following, "The Rule".
Only the Nagual woman remains behind, to help the next generation.
Florinda Matus remained behind to help Carlos and the witches.
Carol Tiggs remained behind to help Cleargreen.
I'd expect Flo and Taisha to keep out of it. Carlos did his best. That's it.
Kylie probably went with them.
It's possible I was supposed to also.
But I'm glad, if that's true, that I didn't.
The witches may figure, if Carlos had intent on his side, it'll all work out.
If not, intent will find another way to restore magic to the world.
And way too generic/mainstream. In their desperation to remain relevant, as if that was possible when sorcery is so counter-culture, they've lost their authenticity and potency.
And become populist.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-08 16:40
Is it Reni, or some "replacements"?
It's still the official Tensegrity group, so whatever we do we need to support that, if we want to hook to the intent of Carlos.
We can learn tensegrity from them, without getting brainwashed into fussy impotence.
Carlos was so insistent on hooking to a specific intent, that it seemed kind of childish to outsiders.
A funny name here, a made up story about something that didn't really happen there.
Short hair with a mannish style look, to match the Chacmools of ancient times.
Even some black spandex and sunglasses, to make them look as alien as the ancient sorcerers would look to us today.
Why?
Because you work your butt off for nothing, and then all of a sudden magic opens up, and you act far beyond your abilities.
That's the "Intent of the Sorcerers of Ancient Mexico".
It's left over, from all the way back then!
You can pick it up from the air, in silence.
It's not surprising. That's how this entire reality really works!
It's very important to get that boost if you can. Even if it's usually a one-up.
Stay away from fake naguals, and be careful which Esoteric texts you read. Those will pollute your intent, and reduce the useful gifts you receive.
And Wheel of Time has the pure form of that intent.
It's not my cup of tea though.
I'm on a slightly modified path, due to having a specific purpose in here. It's not enough to learn sorcery. I need to prove it to others just enough to give new people a clear path to the real thing.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
2 points2020-05-08 17:23
It seems like Nyie Murez has distanced from what Cleargreen now does. or i am wrong but i have this feeling, she has her own practices Turtle Star Dreaming focused on stars and horoscopes. In my opinion what Cleargreen does now is not connected with the intent of ancient seers.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-08 17:54
There was a lot of interest in horoscopes and such in Carlos' group.
Cholita too. She's obsessed with it.
So I guess that's closer to the original, than the stuff coming from cleargreen proper.
What would be great would be, for Cholita to go kick some butt.
They all know her.
But she's even crazier than before, talking to people who aren't there all day long.
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Go through our Dreaming Wiki, to explore some more. For those new here, you will discover how dreaming can integrate into your waking life and practice.
After that, check out the Experiences - Wiki to get a feel for what dreaming awake is.
It's normal to run out of things to do. It's one of the steps to mastering lucid dreaming.
I'm afraid, to find more things to do, you'd have to resort to Carlos Castaneda's books. He has it mapped out.
I made it to the 4th gate after intense effort over decades, but neglected to fine tune where I landed in the real world.
I'm going back from dreaming awake, because the lucidity is permanent. If you aren't asleep, you never lose lucidity and can hold the dreams as long as you like.
But if you want some hints:
Don't interfere with dream phantoms, get to know them.
Learn to dissolve the troublesome ones with your stare. It's like trying to read a book. The text keeps changing.
If you do that, you'll find one that won't go away, and now you have a permanent companion in dreaming, if you interact with him on a daily basis.
Also, dreams inside dreams can give you 2 weeks in a lucid dream, fairly easily. Don't worry, it's only a long night in the real world.
Unfortunately, the worlds you enter while asleep are very low energy. They dissolve into nothing at the drop of a hat.
You're far better off to learn to be mentally silent (no internal dialogue), because you can access worlds that have their own energy, and never dissolve.
And you don't have to fight for lucidity in those. You start out awake, a portal opens up on your bedroom wall, and you walk in.
Just don't stay too long, or you might never come back.
You've only scratched the surface!
A safer practice is to learn to summon "dreaming fog". The room fills with it (it has to be pitch black), and dreams surround you on all sides.
Even tiny little "micro-dreams". You can just slowly sweep your head, and pass through 100 dreams in a minute.
I'm a former private class student of Carlos Castaneda.
I'm not pulling your leg.
What's your primary motivation in this life, Dan?
Do you want to connect with Carol Tiggs; is she leading the modern sorcery charge (in terms of lineage, not worldwide) ?
Is she really still here?
What type of dream do you like to go into the most?
I'm interested in what a practitoner at your stage truly believes in.
(Belief without believing lol)
Do you want to shift the assemblage point of the world, like Carlos proclaimed to Armando was his Task while in his life?
I apologize for being obtrusive with my previous posts, I got carried away .. hopefully you'll look past my histrionics and understand I'm not a psycho haha.
I come from a Stalker's perspective.
Thanks
I am not Dan, but yes, Carol is still around. She sometimes appears at Cleargreen workshops. I know some people previously associated with Cleargreen who know and met her. How much is she really involved in decision making there - other question, where my answer is don't know.
They're all probably following, "The Rule".
Only the Nagual woman remains behind, to help the next generation.
Florinda Matus remained behind to help Carlos and the witches.
Carol Tiggs remained behind to help Cleargreen.
I'd expect Flo and Taisha to keep out of it. Carlos did his best. That's it.
Kylie probably went with them.
It's possible I was supposed to also.
But I'm glad, if that's true, that I didn't.
The witches may figure, if Carlos had intent on his side, it'll all work out.
If not, intent will find another way to restore magic to the world.
Maybe technology.
And it's not their job to redo what Carlos did.
I on the other hand, am one of the things he did.
I don't have to stay out of it.
Nor does Cholita.
https://cleargreen.mykajabi.com/7-essential-principles-of-personal-power
Do you feel intent in there?
It's horrific.
And way too generic/mainstream. In their desperation to remain relevant, as if that was possible when sorcery is so counter-culture, they've lost their authenticity and potency.
And become populist.
Is it Reni, or some "replacements"?
It's still the official Tensegrity group, so whatever we do we need to support that, if we want to hook to the intent of Carlos.
We can learn tensegrity from them, without getting brainwashed into fussy impotence.
Carlos was so insistent on hooking to a specific intent, that it seemed kind of childish to outsiders.
A funny name here, a made up story about something that didn't really happen there.
Short hair with a mannish style look, to match the Chacmools of ancient times.
Even some black spandex and sunglasses, to make them look as alien as the ancient sorcerers would look to us today.
Why?
Because you work your butt off for nothing, and then all of a sudden magic opens up, and you act far beyond your abilities.
That's the "Intent of the Sorcerers of Ancient Mexico".
It's left over, from all the way back then!
You can pick it up from the air, in silence.
It's not surprising. That's how this entire reality really works!
It's very important to get that boost if you can. Even if it's usually a one-up.
Stay away from fake naguals, and be careful which Esoteric texts you read. Those will pollute your intent, and reduce the useful gifts you receive.
And Wheel of Time has the pure form of that intent.
It's not my cup of tea though.
I'm on a slightly modified path, due to having a specific purpose in here. It's not enough to learn sorcery. I need to prove it to others just enough to give new people a clear path to the real thing.
It seems like Nyie Murez has distanced from what Cleargreen now does. or i am wrong but i have this feeling, she has her own practices Turtle Star Dreaming focused on stars and horoscopes. In my opinion what Cleargreen does now is not connected with the intent of ancient seers.
There was a lot of interest in horoscopes and such in Carlos' group.
Cholita too. She's obsessed with it.
So I guess that's closer to the original, than the stuff coming from cleargreen proper.
What would be great would be, for Cholita to go kick some butt.
They all know her.
But she's even crazier than before, talking to people who aren't there all day long.