I actually ran into several of the witches in my youth. Maybe all of them.
I wouldn't have realized it, except for pictures people came up with.
On the other hand, sorcerers who escape to freedom might actually be affected by memories of them, still lingering in this world.
Which would explain why traditional lineages try to leave no traces.
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u/jd198703
3 points2020-05-12 19:24
Oh, now I see a little mistake of mine... I should be more precise. The pictures are told to depict Carol, Nuri, Amalia and possibly Florinda and Taisha. It was about "our" witches.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-12 19:29
I wish to God I could help.
But, I have prosopagnosia.
I'm almost ideal to be the raconteur for private classes, because I can't actually identify anyone.
Combine that with Carlos cutting everyone's hair short, and preventing the use of makeup, so I couldn't use those details to identify people, and I was out of luck.
I suspect a few of the young women I got to hang out with never realized, when they came up to me to go to lunch, I was usually thinking, "Do I know you?"
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u/jd198703
2 points2020-05-12 19:31
Yes, I understand this. By the way, do you have any idea why he wanted them to be short-haired? Now the ones who are still "on track" no longer do this, like Reni, Nyei and Aerin all have longer hair.
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u/oceanic_1986
2 points2020-05-12 19:38
I’m very curious about this as well. I noticed it in the magical passes videos and was a little weirded out by how cult-ish it seemed.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-05-12 20:34recovered
Based on Amy Wallace's book, there are many facets to it. I can envision a few. On one level, it was sexually related. Carlos had many females he energetically roped in. Not good, not bad, it happened. I dont judge. Sexual energy is very potent, and transformations of the individuals engaged are inevitable.
Cut hair, the changing of one's overall head shape, is also a mover of awareness to different fields.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-05-12 20:33
Yes, Cholita explained it to me in detail.
He "de-clawed" their femininity.
Cholita said he insisted. Even though she wasn't a chacmool, or an inner circle person.
She said the transformation was amazing.
Before, she could travel to any city in the world, and in 10 minutes find a man to take care of her.
If she walked down the street, there were constant whistles and cat calls.
But the instant her hair was that short, there was nothing.
No more attention.
It's also a sign of commitment, which I guess is all women need to give.
Commitment to the "lifestyle".
And it was a sign of intimacy, since they were giving up all the attention from other men.
Now, there's no reason for Reni and the others to keep that up.
Not to mention of course, the Chacmool statues were women with short hair.
He was also tying them to intent.
Don't anyone think that's too weak of a link to notice!
Intent is what saves you hundreds of hours of work, at key moments when you've been putting in a good effort but not seeing enough rewards.
You get a magical gift. Usually on a one-time basis.
I'll add here an interesting side note.
Did anyone else realize, the classical "Chacmool" statues are always holding a donation bucket?
Cleargreen?
Green (cash) free and clear?
Chacmools with a donation bucket?
He was kind of making fun of the whole thing.
Or intending, if you want a more pleasant interpretation.
And the sign of good intending is, it's amusing also, with secret extra meanings.
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u/oceanic_1986
3 points2020-05-12 22:24
It’s funny because I actually had a dream about Cholita maybe a week ago. No idea why. Probably spending too much time on this sub lol.
But anyway I dreamt she kidnapped me and drove me down to Mexico in a convertible. It was terrifying.
And I remember very specifically she had long black hair, not short like in any of your pictures.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-05-12 23:17
It's going back to long again. She told me.
And in her dreaming double, she can change age and appearance to some extent.
I've seen her with long hair in her dreaming body.
And "proved" it was her that visits me, enough times not to worry about that issue.
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u/oceanic_1986
2 points2020-05-12 23:31
Interesting
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u/danl999
6 points2020-05-12 20:49
Let me also add, in a separate note to emphasize it.
If you have women around a practicing sorcery group, there's all kinds of romance going on.
Distractions that are self-destructive to anyone learning.
Women seem absolutely obsessed with finding a "spiritual man".
Which means, they tend to only destroy them.
If you want to form a sorcery group with an equal amount of men and women, you either pair them off to settle that issue, or put a stop to romance of any sort.
I'm not saying men are any better.
But they're only after sex for the most part, and it's pretty easy for them to forgo the relationship part, if they have a good reason.
I have NEVER had a woman ask me for help learning sorcery, who didn't turn out to be looking for a man.
Never.
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u/[deleted]
2 points2020-05-12 20:58recovered
Perhaps romantic "challenges" are the biggest contributors to the foundation, building, and sustainment of one's ego.
To have NO EGO is truly terrifying!
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-05-12 21:04recovered
Cleargreen is an interesting name.
Did Carlos come up with it?
It could be the color that Carlos dreamed through.
It could be the face if Mescalito.
It could be a transcendental path, a doorway...
A Cosmic Joke! Lol!
I feel its like an Emerald... and i see electric blue volts coursing through it, right to left...
Like rippling water, moving behind a green tinted glass
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2020-05-12 21:53
Cleargreen is an interesting name.
Did Carlos come up with it?
Dan confirmed that it's a pun.
Clear (free) Green (money), meaning the liquid assets necessary to hold and pay for the expenses associated with workshops.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-05-12 20:48recovered
That's interesting. Did you have that condition as far back as childhood?
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It's worth doing that.
I actually ran into several of the witches in my youth. Maybe all of them.
I wouldn't have realized it, except for pictures people came up with.
On the other hand, sorcerers who escape to freedom might actually be affected by memories of them, still lingering in this world.
Which would explain why traditional lineages try to leave no traces.
Oh, now I see a little mistake of mine... I should be more precise. The pictures are told to depict Carol, Nuri, Amalia and possibly Florinda and Taisha. It was about "our" witches.
I wish to God I could help.
But, I have prosopagnosia.
I'm almost ideal to be the raconteur for private classes, because I can't actually identify anyone.
Combine that with Carlos cutting everyone's hair short, and preventing the use of makeup, so I couldn't use those details to identify people, and I was out of luck.
I suspect a few of the young women I got to hang out with never realized, when they came up to me to go to lunch, I was usually thinking, "Do I know you?"
Yes, I understand this. By the way, do you have any idea why he wanted them to be short-haired? Now the ones who are still "on track" no longer do this, like Reni, Nyei and Aerin all have longer hair.
I’m very curious about this as well. I noticed it in the magical passes videos and was a little weirded out by how cult-ish it seemed.
Based on Amy Wallace's book, there are many facets to it. I can envision a few. On one level, it was sexually related. Carlos had many females he energetically roped in. Not good, not bad, it happened. I dont judge. Sexual energy is very potent, and transformations of the individuals engaged are inevitable.
Cut hair, the changing of one's overall head shape, is also a mover of awareness to different fields.
Yes, Cholita explained it to me in detail.
He "de-clawed" their femininity.
Cholita said he insisted. Even though she wasn't a chacmool, or an inner circle person.
She said the transformation was amazing.
Before, she could travel to any city in the world, and in 10 minutes find a man to take care of her.
If she walked down the street, there were constant whistles and cat calls.
But the instant her hair was that short, there was nothing.
No more attention.
It's also a sign of commitment, which I guess is all women need to give.
Commitment to the "lifestyle".
And it was a sign of intimacy, since they were giving up all the attention from other men.
Now, there's no reason for Reni and the others to keep that up.
Not to mention of course, the Chacmool statues were women with short hair.
He was also tying them to intent.
Don't anyone think that's too weak of a link to notice!
Intent is what saves you hundreds of hours of work, at key moments when you've been putting in a good effort but not seeing enough rewards.
You get a magical gift. Usually on a one-time basis.
I'll add here an interesting side note.
Did anyone else realize, the classical "Chacmool" statues are always holding a donation bucket?
Cleargreen?
Green (cash) free and clear?
Chacmools with a donation bucket?
He was kind of making fun of the whole thing.
Or intending, if you want a more pleasant interpretation.
And the sign of good intending is, it's amusing also, with secret extra meanings.
It’s funny because I actually had a dream about Cholita maybe a week ago. No idea why. Probably spending too much time on this sub lol.
But anyway I dreamt she kidnapped me and drove me down to Mexico in a convertible. It was terrifying.
And I remember very specifically she had long black hair, not short like in any of your pictures.
It's going back to long again. She told me.
And in her dreaming double, she can change age and appearance to some extent.
I've seen her with long hair in her dreaming body.
And "proved" it was her that visits me, enough times not to worry about that issue.
Interesting
Let me also add, in a separate note to emphasize it.
If you have women around a practicing sorcery group, there's all kinds of romance going on.
Distractions that are self-destructive to anyone learning.
Women seem absolutely obsessed with finding a "spiritual man".
Which means, they tend to only destroy them.
If you want to form a sorcery group with an equal amount of men and women, you either pair them off to settle that issue, or put a stop to romance of any sort.
I'm not saying men are any better.
But they're only after sex for the most part, and it's pretty easy for them to forgo the relationship part, if they have a good reason.
I have NEVER had a woman ask me for help learning sorcery, who didn't turn out to be looking for a man.
Never.
Perhaps romantic "challenges" are the biggest contributors to the foundation, building, and sustainment of one's ego.
To have NO EGO is truly terrifying!
Cleargreen is an interesting name.
Did Carlos come up with it?
It could be the color that Carlos dreamed through.
It could be the face if Mescalito.
It could be a transcendental path, a doorway...
A Cosmic Joke! Lol!
I feel its like an Emerald... and i see electric blue volts coursing through it, right to left...
Like rippling water, moving behind a green tinted glass
Dan confirmed that it's a pun.
Clear (free) Green (money), meaning the liquid assets necessary to hold and pay for the expenses associated with workshops.
That's interesting. Did you have that condition as far back as childhood?
I saw them all, including Carlos, on several seminars. Last two are definitely not Florinda and Taisha, the only page where I could find their images that fit is: http://sustainedaction.org/Images_Photos/taisha_kicking_florinda.htm
I'm fairly certain the second to last image, of the woman with the grey hair, is Carol Tiggs
The last image is said to be Florinda, but she's either very young in it or it's not her.