As far as she's concerned, Nyei and I are complete failures because we haven't kept our trim Tensegrity figures.
Cholita's a tiny thing these days.
I must admit, messing around in the second attention is easier if you have less mass to carry around.
Carlos wasn't joking about that.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-18 21:01
Did she mention learning to do anything interesting, in that video?
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
4 points2020-05-18 21:32
Nothing new, stories, memories about Carlos, promoting Cleargreen workshops.. I think Reni and Nyie were so influenced by the greatness of Carlos power, that they still are very impressed with this and what they only can talk about is their memories and impressions on him, quoting him and his books...May be i would do the same on their place, who knows.. but may be they don't tell about learning smth interesting and new with the purpose.. the purpose we are not aware about.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-05-18 23:05
It could be that with Carol Tiggs helping, they're simply planning on going with Carlos.
That would take concentrating on recap.
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-05-19 13:14
But can they? Without a developed dreaming body and merging both attentions/bodies (just speculating).
Could you please tell the general idea of yours on this, how this could be possible for them?
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u/danl999
3 points2020-05-19 15:44
I believe it requires an assist by Carlos himself, unless you can move your assemblage point all the way across your luminous shell, by yourself.
If they could do that, we ought to be hearing of cooler things they've discovered, realized they were in the books all along, and so it's ok to add them to workshops.
Miles is trying to do that with his "set up dreaming" concept.
But it's not enough to help with Carlos' reputation.
I wonder if there wasn't a message for me from Nyei, in that video?
At one point she was talking about how Carol Tiggs had told her that it's a very male point of view, to "just shut off the internal dialogue."
But it's rather long, and I didn't realize I should have listened to that part more closely.
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-05-19 16:33
Miles is trying to do that with his "set up dreaming" concept.
Could you point to where he does that? This seems to be from the books
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-05-19 17:52
It's in one of the videos on his YouTube Channel:
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u/jd198703
1 points2020-05-19 19:11
Thanks for that. Look, he uses a pole! I think that u/danl999 has recommended it many many years ago. But the video itself did not impress me much. The usual Miles stuff - massages, breaths, etc. And him sitting reading quotes from Carlos...
The main thing is the usually don't offer anything new or impressive :-(
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u/danl999
4 points2020-05-19 18:00
I remember it from there too.
I understand what's going on.
No one wants to modify anything Carlos said or did.
And good thing. It would weaken our link to the intent he hooked us to.
But once you can actually do really cool things, you start to notice techniques in the books which we didn't emphasize, or even forgot all together.
So you get more things that are "ok" to recommend.
Like Zuleica's techniques.
I have to surmise no one from Cleargreen got that to work, or it could have breathed some life into the workshops.
Out of respect they won't add.
And out of lack of knowledge, they can't expand.
Miles sort of expanded with that "setting up dreaming" thing.
But it won't be enough to restore Carlos' reputation.
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u/tryerrr
1 points2020-05-21 09:50
The CG women may consist of mostly stalkers (which were missing for Carlos party) as the “Sonora Indians” mentioned in Madrid interview were explained in Eagle’s Gift to be dreamers. This may be why CG pushes recap but doesn’t mention Zuleica’s techniques.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-05-21 15:51
Yea, I do complain a lot.
Sorry.
I'm trying to motivate people to do really cool things that excite people on the web, and restore Carlos' reputation.
It could be CG is only designed to get some of Carlos' apprentices to meet up with him wherever he's gone.
Seems a little selfish to me.
But maybe my efforts will fall flat on my face and it'll turn out, you can't teach masses about sorcery.
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Here's the actual YouTube link:
2 hours 34 minutes
don't know what happened with my post, sorry!
Thanks for finding it in the first place.
I might send it to Cholita.
She'll go nuts.
As far as she's concerned, Nyei and I are complete failures because we haven't kept our trim Tensegrity figures.
Cholita's a tiny thing these days.
I must admit, messing around in the second attention is easier if you have less mass to carry around.
Carlos wasn't joking about that.
Did she mention learning to do anything interesting, in that video?
Nothing new, stories, memories about Carlos, promoting Cleargreen workshops.. I think Reni and Nyie were so influenced by the greatness of Carlos power, that they still are very impressed with this and what they only can talk about is their memories and impressions on him, quoting him and his books...May be i would do the same on their place, who knows.. but may be they don't tell about learning smth interesting and new with the purpose.. the purpose we are not aware about.
It could be that with Carol Tiggs helping, they're simply planning on going with Carlos.
That would take concentrating on recap.
But can they? Without a developed dreaming body and merging both attentions/bodies (just speculating).
Could you please tell the general idea of yours on this, how this could be possible for them?
I believe it requires an assist by Carlos himself, unless you can move your assemblage point all the way across your luminous shell, by yourself.
If they could do that, we ought to be hearing of cooler things they've discovered, realized they were in the books all along, and so it's ok to add them to workshops.
Miles is trying to do that with his "set up dreaming" concept.
But it's not enough to help with Carlos' reputation.
I wonder if there wasn't a message for me from Nyei, in that video?
At one point she was talking about how Carol Tiggs had told her that it's a very male point of view, to "just shut off the internal dialogue."
But it's rather long, and I didn't realize I should have listened to that part more closely.
Could you point to where he does that? This seems to be from the books
It's in one of the videos on his YouTube Channel:
Thanks for that. Look, he uses a pole! I think that u/danl999 has recommended it many many years ago. But the video itself did not impress me much. The usual Miles stuff - massages, breaths, etc. And him sitting reading quotes from Carlos...
The main thing is the usually don't offer anything new or impressive :-(
I remember it from there too.
I understand what's going on.
No one wants to modify anything Carlos said or did.
And good thing. It would weaken our link to the intent he hooked us to.
But once you can actually do really cool things, you start to notice techniques in the books which we didn't emphasize, or even forgot all together.
So you get more things that are "ok" to recommend.
Like Zuleica's techniques.
I have to surmise no one from Cleargreen got that to work, or it could have breathed some life into the workshops.
Out of respect they won't add.
And out of lack of knowledge, they can't expand.
Miles sort of expanded with that "setting up dreaming" thing.
But it won't be enough to restore Carlos' reputation.
The CG women may consist of mostly stalkers (which were missing for Carlos party) as the “Sonora Indians” mentioned in Madrid interview were explained in Eagle’s Gift to be dreamers. This may be why CG pushes recap but doesn’t mention Zuleica’s techniques.
Yea, I do complain a lot.
Sorry.
I'm trying to motivate people to do really cool things that excite people on the web, and restore Carlos' reputation.
It could be CG is only designed to get some of Carlos' apprentices to meet up with him wherever he's gone.
Seems a little selfish to me.
But maybe my efforts will fall flat on my face and it'll turn out, you can't teach masses about sorcery.