Hi , I had an other post to the group some months ago about celibacy as a guest .any way my recent experience was very intense as fell asleep and suddenly I started having a vibration on my body and a noise at my ears and wake up a thing fell upon me and covered me up like I suddenly was in a bubble , an air jelly or wrapping off air cant describe it exact . imagine you have an outer sell of air or something. it was like it was alive (propably was🙂 ).any idea what was it .. not the first time is happening but was very intense. that had happened to me lot off times two were very intense this was the second so intense . thanks in advance !
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Sounds like an inorganic being to me.
According to Carlos, Shirley MacClaine ran into sleep paralysis and thought someone was raping her.
She later accused Carlos.
I supposed, it could have been an inorganic being, and she made it into a Carlos replica.
So she might have been telling the truth.
I also suppose they can induce sleep paralysis if given a chance. They have the ability to lure us into new positions of the assemblage point.
Since don Juan said they could hold people down on the ground, and since people's accounts of sleep paralysis and the "evil" beings it is associated with, it seem like a good assumption.
But, just a reminder!
You don't want to be just a chat room warrior.
Try to do it again, and again!
Only by repeating things, can we manage to move our assemblage points permanently.
hi thanks for the respond. I have read all the books it just happens periodically .I haven't found exact what trigers or lures it to jump on me (I do practice celebacy ) and I noticed maybe it has somel relation to wet dreams and on the same time it does not .as you said other times it is like sleep paralysis and I confront it by not fighting it and not try to move . this time I was feeling even how it was on me how it covered me and how much thickness it had around me . other times I couldn't feel the difference betwin my body and it ..
Let me clear this up:
The benefit of celibacy is not getting sucked into the agriculture myth of close family and friends.
That's all.
I supposed you save up sexual energy and get very horny, and that makes dreams more vivid.
So it seems like you have more energy.
And it might even trigger your experience, due to becoming conscious while asleep, because your body really, really, wants a woman.
But who cares?
You should learn dreaming awake. Dreaming asleep is too random and hard to produce.
You even have an inorganic being interested in you!
If you gave it half a chance, it would show up while you were awake and teach you more.
But unfortunately, that means a couple of hours a day of practice.
Or not. You could also simply force yourself silent all day long.
yes I agree most thing happening before I sleep or after fall asleep and something or that thing wakes me up dreams are not controlable usually a mess only flying I do control in my dreams sort off ...thanks for the advice .
Flying is another sign you're a dreamer type.
o thanks for the info! though that most people see that and kids most of them as a teacher I asked my students .I see it often and control it to some point but is never the superman flying is more like loosing weight and floating type of flying.
If you get lucid, try "zooming". You just lean in a bit, stare at the top of a mountain or building, and gaze at it so hard that you "change dreams".
But in this case, since you are intending to be pulled towards it at a fast speed, you end up doing the superman flying.
It's an important thing to learn, if you want to do lucid dreaming. It lets you move around without completely changing the dream.
But still. It's a hell of a lot more fun to do dreaming awake!
As far as I know, there's only a few on the web who can do it. Ingram and Young.
Wish there were others. But asian types won't talk about things openly (because they're mostly frauds).
You have to find a westernized buddhist master to get honest information.
But when you do, it's pretty much the same as what I'm doing.
(Trying to lure you to put in more time.)
o I will !I only have this and my art to work (some how I relate them a bit ) othe staff are boring ..thanks
oh sory I forgot this also .some years ago when I wal on the bed and meditating (I was facing the ceiling ) it grabbed me and suddenly my stomach was like it was tingling itch then more strong like burning and I saw for seconds some lines comes out of my belly bluish ..hanvent been able to repeat it .
It's hard to repeat stuff. Consider it a gift from intent, to encourage to keep trying.
yes it is and many come when you least expect them .
As best I can figure, they seem to reward effort.
So if you work like the dickens and nothing happens, don't fret.
Intent will often step in and something spectacular will happen.
It's also good to tie yourself to Carlos' intent. And avoid new agey or me-too sorcerer intent.
For example, if you have the intent of an inventory collector, then intent might help you out with that.
But that's a wasted gift, since more inventory will only harm your ability to learn sorcery.
yes is not the experience but the way to it like clearing the connections.intent is only freedom from my perspective so cant be relied on anything because is not freedom if it does is an addiction-bond .
So now you don't ever practice dreaming asleep? like totally rejecting this path of solidifying your energy body?
Difficult topic.
For everyone but me, it's a valid path.
But I'm specifically trying to restore Carlos reputation to what it was when workshops first started.
Lucid dreaming isn't going to convince anyone. Did Nyei's interview seem like it could convince someone who claims Carlos is a fraud, that they're wrong?
Also, it's probably better to learn to go into lucid dreaming directly from waking dreaming.
I can do it in a few minutes reliably.
The problem is, I pass through a blank out barrier, and forget my purpose.
I end up knowing I'm in a dream, but having lost the desire to experiment with it.
Typically I end up with Cholita.
Last night I ended up with a homeless woman I crossed paths with yesterday.
I saw her walking backwards down the street.
new interview and it seems to me opposite to what must to be said in order to restore Carlos reputation. It seems like it does not work without Carlos to promote Tensegrity in the necessary manner. Nyie is good woman and may be she is very experienced dreamer but the way she is describing it:(( it's sad
I sometimes think they don't believe any more.
Because nothing happened with them.
That's entirely because they didn't learn to get silent.
If you get silent, impossible stuff happens. There's no way out of that.
Our view of the world is fake. It's composed of our shields and our internal dialogue.
Which means, it's our parents world.
Not that we have to hate it, or love it, or anything.
It's just nice to have options, that's all.
Meanwhile, I've got a Magnum PI episode and a glass of wine waiting for me.
I used to have very vivid flying dreams... usually I flew with my ass forward like I was sitting in a chair with my knees tucked into my chest....
A wonderful sight that must have been.
I since took up stalking
funny and fun it sounds !
question when you are awake at a street and sudently you see people that move in street slow down like they were a projection etc or like the hole thing is a seen what that ? stopping the world or dreaming ?