This would be good for a representation of the inorganic beings realm.
In sleeping dreaming, it can look more animated like this. They're all projections of course.
But it would be pretty hellish living there for 7000 years as the old sorcerer did, if they didn't put on a good show.
In waking dreaming, it's pure creepy.
I was offered entry last night, but the 2 beings I saw in the small patch materializing on my wall, convinced me not to go.
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u/Odysx2
1 points2020-07-25 17:39
how they did that?
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u/danl999
3 points2020-07-25 18:00
I've seen what happens, but not how.
You have to reduce them to their real form; just a collection of lights.
Then you let them return to whatever they're looking like.
Somewhere in the middle, you can see energy coming from you, and bouncing off them.
And when it bounces off, you get "pieces" of the final look.
But I have to warn everyone.
If you view them like that, it'll become too easy to switch back and forth.
And you'll often end up seeing just the lights.
Which is no fun...
Many things can make such light. Not just inorganic beings.
So if you see a little galaxy floating in the air, but never saw it's phony appearance, such as my fairy entity, you can't be sure what you're looking at.
I recommend, don't stare down inorganic beings at first, when you find them and learn to interact while awake.
In dreaming, go ahead.
But wait, for waking dreaming.
Don't disintegrate them with your gaze until you have a good reason.
The relationship will be better if you just believe they are what they appear to be.
Real.
From a technical point of view, those guys live in one of the other slices of the cheese in the cheese ball diagram:
We're in the greyed in slice, they're in another.
There's overlap, but we can't perceive most of their slice.
And so probably, our perception of them isn't full enough, to always look the same.
They're like a not-doing. Like that red rag Carlos saw on a branch, blowing in the wind, and it turned into a wild animal.
That's what happens when you try to perceive them. They get "filled in" by your own intent.
In dreaming, you're entirely using the dreaming double. For some reason, that either allows them to speed up, able to move as freely as we do.
Or it slows us down as someone else proposed.
That's not too bizarre. We'd never know it!
If you go to sleep inside a dream, inside a dream, time slows down to around 1/24th. Or at least, it does for me.
If a dream in a dream slows down, there's no way the inorganics can't make that come about.
They can dream in dream you anytime they like. In fact, if you get very good at lucid dreaming, you'll discover that they can push us around in dreaming very easily.
They can, "reset the matrix" so to speak. And there's a glitch.
But you won't notice that without huge practice.
At any rate, this gives the impression of them being much more solid and realistic looking in dreams.
However, it's just an illusion. Nothing about them can remain the same if you watch it too long.
Several times I found myself in their realm in dreaming.
The most common view I get is women sitting around in baths and ponds, wanting you to come sit next to them in the water.
As long as you don't stare too long, they remain pretty stable.
Carlos wanted to teach us about that towards the end, but people turned his explanations against him after he died, and denounced him.
So there's a crowd of inventory experts out there, who claim to be against Carlos, and in favor of don Juan.
Makes for a better book deal.
It's bizarre...
Could be the doing of Felix.
That was his sales pitch in that interview.
It was something like, The witches don't like Reni anymore, and Felix is cyclic with her anyway, and Carlos went bad and joined the inorganic beings.
So come worship Felix. He badly needs the income.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-07-25 18:14
Or do you mean why did I get convinced not to go?
I was trying to master some practical magic. They noticed and attempted to get me to go with them, but I didn't recognize Fairy in there.
And they were closer to their true appearance.
They were not only strangers, but no fun to look at.
However, now that I think about it, it's possible they got tired of watching me fail at my attempts, and were going to teach me how to do what I wanted to do.
Darn...
Now I have an idea on how to cheat. If you can't do the magic yourself, get an inorganic being to do it for you, and no one will be the wiser.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
1 points2020-07-26 19:41
I was offered entry last night, but the 2 beings I saw in the small patch materializing on my wall, convinced me not to go
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This would be good for a representation of the inorganic beings realm.
In sleeping dreaming, it can look more animated like this. They're all projections of course.
But it would be pretty hellish living there for 7000 years as the old sorcerer did, if they didn't put on a good show.
In waking dreaming, it's pure creepy.
I was offered entry last night, but the 2 beings I saw in the small patch materializing on my wall, convinced me not to go.
how they did that?
I've seen what happens, but not how.
You have to reduce them to their real form; just a collection of lights.
Then you let them return to whatever they're looking like.
Somewhere in the middle, you can see energy coming from you, and bouncing off them.
And when it bounces off, you get "pieces" of the final look.
But I have to warn everyone.
If you view them like that, it'll become too easy to switch back and forth.
And you'll often end up seeing just the lights.
Which is no fun...
Many things can make such light. Not just inorganic beings.
So if you see a little galaxy floating in the air, but never saw it's phony appearance, such as my fairy entity, you can't be sure what you're looking at.
I recommend, don't stare down inorganic beings at first, when you find them and learn to interact while awake.
In dreaming, go ahead.
But wait, for waking dreaming.
Don't disintegrate them with your gaze until you have a good reason.
The relationship will be better if you just believe they are what they appear to be.
Real.
From a technical point of view, those guys live in one of the other slices of the cheese in the cheese ball diagram:
We're in the greyed in slice, they're in another.
There's overlap, but we can't perceive most of their slice.
And so probably, our perception of them isn't full enough, to always look the same.
They're like a not-doing. Like that red rag Carlos saw on a branch, blowing in the wind, and it turned into a wild animal.
That's what happens when you try to perceive them. They get "filled in" by your own intent.
In dreaming, you're entirely using the dreaming double. For some reason, that either allows them to speed up, able to move as freely as we do.
Or it slows us down as someone else proposed.
That's not too bizarre. We'd never know it!
If you go to sleep inside a dream, inside a dream, time slows down to around 1/24th. Or at least, it does for me.
If a dream in a dream slows down, there's no way the inorganics can't make that come about.
They can dream in dream you anytime they like. In fact, if you get very good at lucid dreaming, you'll discover that they can push us around in dreaming very easily.
They can, "reset the matrix" so to speak. And there's a glitch.
But you won't notice that without huge practice.
At any rate, this gives the impression of them being much more solid and realistic looking in dreams.
However, it's just an illusion. Nothing about them can remain the same if you watch it too long.
Several times I found myself in their realm in dreaming.
The most common view I get is women sitting around in baths and ponds, wanting you to come sit next to them in the water.
As long as you don't stare too long, they remain pretty stable.
Carlos wanted to teach us about that towards the end, but people turned his explanations against him after he died, and denounced him.
So there's a crowd of inventory experts out there, who claim to be against Carlos, and in favor of don Juan.
Makes for a better book deal.
It's bizarre...
Could be the doing of Felix.
That was his sales pitch in that interview.
It was something like, The witches don't like Reni anymore, and Felix is cyclic with her anyway, and Carlos went bad and joined the inorganic beings.
So come worship Felix. He badly needs the income.
Or do you mean why did I get convinced not to go?
I was trying to master some practical magic. They noticed and attempted to get me to go with them, but I didn't recognize Fairy in there.
And they were closer to their true appearance.
They were not only strangers, but no fun to look at.
However, now that I think about it, it's possible they got tired of watching me fail at my attempts, and were going to teach me how to do what I wanted to do.
Darn...
Now I have an idea on how to cheat. If you can't do the magic yourself, get an inorganic being to do it for you, and no one will be the wiser.
What kind of beings and why ?)
Take Jaba the Hutt's head from Star Wars,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPfFoG5DRE4
and superimpose it over a "minion", from Despicable Me.
https://cjmart.jp/en/products/detail.php?product_id=4367
Then cram it into a 2 foot diameter barnacle and stick it on the inside of a conglomerate rock cave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle
So maybe you can imagine why I decide not to visit with 2 of those.
But I should have!
I still haven't found a way to tell north from south.
The problem isn't that there's nothing to see.
It's the opposite!
I'll look north, and see vertical lines. And a bunch of other stuff, but those will predominate.
I'll look south, and see very fine horizontal lines. But I won't get excited, because I've seen vertical lines in that direction too.
And I turn back north, and it's faint worms, with a jungle assembling in the corner.
Carlos was quite directional in his thinking.
There must be a good reason.