New Practitionersu/[deleted]2020-08-17 17:22 UTC7 pointsdeleted
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
6 points2020-08-17 17:52
Don't stop! Keep the momentum. If you stop, or life situations force you to stop... you're practically back at square one.
On this I can testify.
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u/[deleted]
3 points2020-08-17 18:10deleted
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u/danl999
8 points2020-08-17 17:53
You have talent in dreaming!
Yes, that was the "classical" 4 gates dreaming progression.
You found your hands, and looked from object to object.
That created the "charge" that lures the IOBs. Actually, don Juan said it, "compels" them to take notice of you.
Of course, the same is true of moving your gaze from patch of color to patch of color, in darkness.
That's why it leads to inorganic beings. It's essentially the same as 4 gates dreaming, but done while awake.
The problem with lucid dreaming is, you can't get it on demand, in any time period less than 6 months.
Gazing at colors gets it on demand, within a few sessions.
If you have talent.
Which you do!
Now, if you want to turbo charge it, learn to be silent, so that your thoughts don't pull you away from all the fun, and back into suffering.
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u/[deleted]
2 points2020-08-17 18:13deleted
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-17 18:26
According to don Juan, you have to attach yourself to the intent of lucid dreaming.
Through determination and unbending intent (obsession if you ask me).
Its sort of like the essence of a gift from intent, to get a chance to wake up in a dream.
It gives a tiny push, but then you have to stop yourself from inside the dream, give up the obsession you have from the dream context, and look around.
Often it sucks you back in because you just can't "let go". You just HAVE to bring that candy to that sad little girl, stuck in the ruins of a war.
Or, whatever context.
I suppose we should take this as the prototype for what happens in waking dreaming also.
Intent gives you a push, but sometimes you have to let go or it'll be lost.
The silence part is for letting go.
Watch for it!
Watch for when you get a little jolt, or tingle, or fear, and the colors suddenly bright up with a vengeance!
That lesson makes us aware that the assemblage point, and intent, and internal silence, are all obvious, and not complicated at all.
On the other hand, running around with eagle feathers in your cap and fancy pants, trying to convince others you are a sorcerer, is the exact opposite.
And it spreads the belief that this whole thing is complicated and hard to understand.
And so you need Ken, or Victor, or Miguel, or Armando, instead of intent.
Those guys are evil, if you ask me.
Certainly, they don't really believe a word of it or they wouldn't harm others.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-08-17 19:06deleted
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u/danl999
3 points2020-08-17 19:23
If you do only lucid dreaming, you'll end up like hundreds of others who gave up and eventually denounced Carlos as a fraud.
The ones who didn't quit, really did anyway.
They created their own lucid dreaming course to get money and attention, starting a little business which didn't allow them to be a helpful part of a community.
They became their own type of petty tyrant guru, actually damaging things more than the ones who gave up and denounced Carlos.
Go for waking dreaming for now. When you get good at it, and realize lateral shifts are useful also, you can return to it.
But return to it directly from waking dreaming. Walk into the dreams.
Besides, if you find your hands in a dream, who wouldn't make use of that???
You never give it up. You just stop using it as an excuse to be lazy.
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u/[deleted]
2 points2020-08-17 19:43deleted
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u/Juann2323
3 points2020-08-17 18:20
I'm glad you're practicing. I assure you that we are all magical beings, and we can learn incredible things; unimaginable. But keep in mind that this is entirely up to you: whether you decide to work hard enough to do it.
If you make progress, you will be grateful all your life that you tried hard enough.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-08-17 19:09deleted
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-17 22:54
Which school?
There's some amazing post WWII Jiu Jitsu in an old John Wayne movie.
It's from the early "Asian martial arts are fun" period, a result of GIs in asia.
It caused a mass flow of martial arts from everywhere, into Los Angeles.
Although, there was some Admiral Perry fallout that went to universities in the 1800s.
It often gets overlooked in american martial arts histories.
It's really worth seeing a tiny little Japanese guy with the classic thick eyeglasses, kick 6 foot + John Wayne's ass.
Why is this relevant?
There's evidence Carlos and the witches were sampling WWII Asian martial arts exodus merchandise in LA, Riverside, and San Bernadino Counties.
I bumped into them more than once.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2020-08-18 15:58
Any idea what movie. Spent a few searching for it and have not got it yet.
Think that would be cool to see.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-18 16:19
I couldn't find it.
Unfortunately, there's a modern Jiu Jitsu fighter named John Wayne. That drowns out the thing we're looking for.
I believe the plot of the movie as post WWII occupation of Japan.
It was one of those, "Wasn't WWII kind of fun afterall?" movies.
Maybe there was the "daughter of the local general has men fighting over her", sort of thing going on.
This little Jiu Jitsu guy just decides to ambush John Wayne every time he goes by because he wants a tall guy to practice on.
The little guy literally jumps onto him, leg locks him, and spins him to the ground over and over again.
John Wayne tries out haymaker punches on him.
Big mistake.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2020-08-18 16:27
That narrows it down a lot. Thanks Sort of a cluso deal.
WoooHOOOO got banned from another sub by refusing to debate some kid about if BF exists. Amazing the stuff you can get banned from. Love it.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-08-18 16:47deleted
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-18 17:33
Is Aiki jutsu at all like Yoshinkai?
Yoshinkai is the violent form of Aikido.
Every throw kills the person. Usually they land on their skull.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2020-08-18 20:35deleted
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-18 21:18
Those are amazing arts!
And I've studied more than 15 martial arts.
My Yoshinkai teacher could play with anyone like a cat plays with a mouse.
Although a real MMA fighter would kick his ass.
You can't practice to learn that kind of hardcore fighting, without getting beat up over and over again.
The getting beat up part is a better teacher than any martial arts master.
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Don't stop! Keep the momentum. If you stop, or life situations force you to stop... you're practically back at square one.
On this I can testify.
[deleted]
You have talent in dreaming!
Yes, that was the "classical" 4 gates dreaming progression.
You found your hands, and looked from object to object.
That created the "charge" that lures the IOBs. Actually, don Juan said it, "compels" them to take notice of you.
Of course, the same is true of moving your gaze from patch of color to patch of color, in darkness.
That's why it leads to inorganic beings. It's essentially the same as 4 gates dreaming, but done while awake.
The problem with lucid dreaming is, you can't get it on demand, in any time period less than 6 months.
Gazing at colors gets it on demand, within a few sessions.
If you have talent.
Which you do!
Now, if you want to turbo charge it, learn to be silent, so that your thoughts don't pull you away from all the fun, and back into suffering.
[deleted]
According to don Juan, you have to attach yourself to the intent of lucid dreaming.
Through determination and unbending intent (obsession if you ask me).
Its sort of like the essence of a gift from intent, to get a chance to wake up in a dream.
It gives a tiny push, but then you have to stop yourself from inside the dream, give up the obsession you have from the dream context, and look around.
Often it sucks you back in because you just can't "let go". You just HAVE to bring that candy to that sad little girl, stuck in the ruins of a war.
Or, whatever context.
I suppose we should take this as the prototype for what happens in waking dreaming also.
Intent gives you a push, but sometimes you have to let go or it'll be lost.
The silence part is for letting go.
Watch for it!
Watch for when you get a little jolt, or tingle, or fear, and the colors suddenly bright up with a vengeance!
That lesson makes us aware that the assemblage point, and intent, and internal silence, are all obvious, and not complicated at all.
On the other hand, running around with eagle feathers in your cap and fancy pants, trying to convince others you are a sorcerer, is the exact opposite.
And it spreads the belief that this whole thing is complicated and hard to understand.
And so you need Ken, or Victor, or Miguel, or Armando, instead of intent.
Those guys are evil, if you ask me.
Certainly, they don't really believe a word of it or they wouldn't harm others.
[deleted]
If you do only lucid dreaming, you'll end up like hundreds of others who gave up and eventually denounced Carlos as a fraud.
The ones who didn't quit, really did anyway.
They created their own lucid dreaming course to get money and attention, starting a little business which didn't allow them to be a helpful part of a community.
They became their own type of petty tyrant guru, actually damaging things more than the ones who gave up and denounced Carlos.
Go for waking dreaming for now. When you get good at it, and realize lateral shifts are useful also, you can return to it.
But return to it directly from waking dreaming. Walk into the dreams.
Besides, if you find your hands in a dream, who wouldn't make use of that???
You never give it up. You just stop using it as an excuse to be lazy.
[deleted]
I'm glad you're practicing. I assure you that we are all magical beings, and we can learn incredible things; unimaginable. But keep in mind that this is entirely up to you: whether you decide to work hard enough to do it.
If you make progress, you will be grateful all your life that you tried hard enough.
[deleted]
Which school?
There's some amazing post WWII Jiu Jitsu in an old John Wayne movie.
It's from the early "Asian martial arts are fun" period, a result of GIs in asia.
It caused a mass flow of martial arts from everywhere, into Los Angeles.
Although, there was some Admiral Perry fallout that went to universities in the 1800s.
It often gets overlooked in american martial arts histories.
It's really worth seeing a tiny little Japanese guy with the classic thick eyeglasses, kick 6 foot + John Wayne's ass.
Why is this relevant?
There's evidence Carlos and the witches were sampling WWII Asian martial arts exodus merchandise in LA, Riverside, and San Bernadino Counties.
I bumped into them more than once.
Any idea what movie. Spent a few searching for it and have not got it yet.
Think that would be cool to see.
I couldn't find it.
Unfortunately, there's a modern Jiu Jitsu fighter named John Wayne. That drowns out the thing we're looking for.
I believe the plot of the movie as post WWII occupation of Japan.
It was one of those, "Wasn't WWII kind of fun afterall?" movies.
Maybe there was the "daughter of the local general has men fighting over her", sort of thing going on.
This little Jiu Jitsu guy just decides to ambush John Wayne every time he goes by because he wants a tall guy to practice on.
The little guy literally jumps onto him, leg locks him, and spins him to the ground over and over again.
John Wayne tries out haymaker punches on him.
Big mistake.
That narrows it down a lot. Thanks Sort of a cluso deal.
WoooHOOOO got banned from another sub by refusing to debate some kid about if BF exists. Amazing the stuff you can get banned from. Love it.
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Is Aiki jutsu at all like Yoshinkai?
Yoshinkai is the violent form of Aikido.
Every throw kills the person. Usually they land on their skull.
[deleted]
Those are amazing arts!
And I've studied more than 15 martial arts.
My Yoshinkai teacher could play with anyone like a cat plays with a mouse.
Although a real MMA fighter would kick his ass.
You can't practice to learn that kind of hardcore fighting, without getting beat up over and over again.
The getting beat up part is a better teacher than any martial arts master.
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