😂 you can put fpv goggles on and watch your self practice watching your self practice to infinity ... even if it does show something is not important...
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-08-24 11:45
There were these chlorin e6 (a chlorophyll derivative) eyedrops some biohackers developed a few years back and self-tested. Definitely not doctor recommended, but it did seem to almost quadruple the sensitivity of their night vision.
I don’t practice the black room technique but I highly suspect if you try to drop the first attention into the act of conjuring the second you’re gonna fail.
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u/wifigunslinger
1 points2020-08-25 03:15
I can’t think of an analogy....
If dark room practices are a path to intent or conjuring intent, invoking intent... or the second attention;
Injecting the first attention into the arena (filming yourself) would be like switching on the lights, no??
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u/wifigunslinger
1 points2020-08-25 03:44
Well then I say why not, worth a try then eh?
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u/danl999
3 points2020-08-24 15:15
I design digital cameras for a living, often with super sensitive expensive sensors.
My cameras sell mostly to universities studying IR in foliage as it grows and matures.
The second attention isn't photon based.
As you can see from dark room practicing!
I was watching other worlds as bright as full sunlight on my wall last night, in a perfectly dark room.
I don't see any reason to expect a sensor, designed to detect photons, to detect the second attention.
That seems like expecting a telephone to detect brain waves.
But who knows.
And simple IR cameras are only $350. Plus you can surely find a simple analog video recording device for around $100.
Probably a better use would be, to catch an IOB pushing on an object while you practice.
"Affirmations from the world around us", type of thing.
Carlos often pointed those out in private classes.
Water. It was usually centered around a water disruption.
So, if someone wants to "prove" something, I suggest a water cooler in your dark room, with glasses of water balanced on the top of the 5 gallon plastic jug.
Focus the IR on that scene.
But skip the aluminum wizard's hat. We aren't hunting aliens.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-24 22:38
Ok, that's possible.
Maybe they can block some light?
I've seen them in daylight. Both Fairy and Fancy look like smoke in daylight.
Maybe they can "diffuse" light.
The problem with the fish tank idea is, I suspect they know what you're up to.
They sense it.
Sometimes Cholita is showing off for me. She bends way over in shorts.
It's like an episode of "Three's Company".
I figure, it's on purpose so it's ok to take advantage.
If my hand even moves 1 inch towards my cellphone camera she says, "No way asshole!"
I don't know how she figures it out.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-24 23:02
She has that spanish machisma thing going on.
You have to watch 1960s Mexican movies from the "golden age" to understand how it works.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2020-08-24 23:16
Oh, I know machismo and machisma. Lots of mexican and spanish friends all my life.
I always found those movies very entertaining. Those were sick day viewings for me at 1pm on this local movie show. Even some of the modern ones like Desperado are good.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-25 16:20
Cholita is like a 1960s movie star who had very very short hair.
Sometimes I think Carlos got the short hair idea from her, except that Cholita told me, it removed all male attention when she cut it. So that's what Carlos as really after.
But typical of that actress was to flirt, then do something dangerous, to make her man worry and hurt.
So Cholita is the type who might pure her arms around you in a cuddly fashion, but dig her fingernails in until blood is drawn.
She's more physical about it than a USA resident who's been "melting pot" modified.
Those torture mentally, not physically.
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1 points2020-08-25 22:27deleted
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u/danl999
3 points2020-08-25 22:37
Not, it's not.
My last passport had a visa section so full, it might as well have been called that.
This is the only melting pot I saw.
Everywhere else, you had to familiarize yourself with the local bad, but acceptable, behavior.
I'll quote Cholita about Mexico:
"Every man there beats his wife. If they say differently, they're lying."
I noticed the same thing in Thailand.
In Japan, if you're in junior high, you'll get your face pushed into the dirt by your "superiors" (a year older). Korean children twice as much.
It's a socially acceptable part of growing up there. You have to learn about senpai/kohai.
That's the very thing that caused Buddhists to claim enlightenment was permanent, and screw up the minds of meditation students all over the world.
Zen students are especially messed up.
Fortunately, when we started having more "enlightened" Buddhist masters in the west, one of the things they did was to dispel that myth.
The honest ones that is. There's book deal minded people in the enlightened population also.
Which goes to show how little it's actually worth.
Don Juan didn't think much of "enlightenment" either.
Carlos made fun of the idea often in class.
And yet, both Juan and Lidotska will tell you, it does exist.
They've seen it.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-08-25 23:38
Once in a while I hope a place like England is as mellowed out as here.
But if you find an honest local to ask, you find they still have a class system.
If you're from the soccer hoodlum class, that's what you'll always be expected to be there.
If you have royal blood, you get better treatment.
In Japan, there's the "unclean caste" to this day.
Only suitable for handling dead bodies, including leather working, and for managing crime (the yakuza).
If anyone heard Zatoichi say how lowly he is, being a gangster, and didn't understand what he was going on about, seeing as how he was a blind swordsman of unbeatable skill, he was actually saying he was from the unclean class.
Google maps posted an ancient map of Tokyo a decade or so ago, thinking they were doing a good thing.
It was on google maps as some sort of alternative.
Real estate prices in the old "unclean zone" plummeted until they had to remove references to that.
No one wanted to live in the spirit infested regions.
What????
That's the best part!
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1 points2020-08-26 01:22deleted
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u/tryerrr
2 points2020-08-27 06:22
SPAD ticking like Geiger counters could work, you want more analog than digital, or very sensitive digital circuits without the standard charge accumulation, interpixel averaging, store&hold adcs and whatnot, to sense small disturbances.
Modern digital devices are very good at filtering out such "noise" even at the sampling stages, similar to human perception, but in contrast to humans digital circuits cannot magically increase sensitivity in darkness, the noise you'd see would be more quantization and thermal noise of the circuits than actual input.
You might as well use some wideband radio frequency scanning device (SDR with rPi recording for later analysis?) and see if there is anything surprising in the radio spectrum.
And you can try enclosing the darkroom/box in a Faraday cage to see whether it affects anything. Jacobo used Faraday cages in his experiments.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-08-27 16:34
Interpixel averaging sensors are typically a fake. They were all the rage 15 years ago, but it turned out it's all done digitally, not at the analog level.
In other words, it's completely pointless. You could do that in post processing.
And yes, post processing of extremely small variations is also pointless. Thermal noise and random electromagnetic collisions (X rays, cosmic rays, and so on) would completely overshadow any other tiny effect.
I once programmed in circuit parallel processing to take a reading of the local radiation levels.
A strike by a powerful photon tends to go at angles, since the lens can't control such a thing.
So they leave tiny "streaks" around 3 pixels wide.
It's random "noise", but you can tell the difference between that noise, and quantization errors, because the odds of the noise are skewed across specific pixels which would correspond to a vector.
I suspect that's where you'd need to look. In that sort of thing.
The patterns in the noise.
But you'd have to give up the idea of a focused image.
The lens can't "collect" that sort of effect, and direct it.
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😂 you can put fpv goggles on and watch your self practice watching your self practice to infinity ... even if it does show something is not important...
There were these chlorin e6 (a chlorophyll derivative) eyedrops some biohackers developed a few years back and self-tested. Definitely not doctor recommended, but it did seem to almost quadruple the sensitivity of their night vision.
https://gizmodo.com/the-real-science-behind-the-crazy-night-vision-eyedrops-1694955347
The walleye livers thing is new to me!
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I don’t practice the black room technique but I highly suspect if you try to drop the first attention into the act of conjuring the second you’re gonna fail.
[deleted]
I can’t think of an analogy....
If dark room practices are a path to intent or conjuring intent, invoking intent... or the second attention;
Injecting the first attention into the arena (filming yourself) would be like switching on the lights, no??
[deleted]
Well then I say why not, worth a try then eh?
I design digital cameras for a living, often with super sensitive expensive sensors.
My cameras sell mostly to universities studying IR in foliage as it grows and matures.
The second attention isn't photon based.
As you can see from dark room practicing!
I was watching other worlds as bright as full sunlight on my wall last night, in a perfectly dark room.
I don't see any reason to expect a sensor, designed to detect photons, to detect the second attention.
That seems like expecting a telephone to detect brain waves.
But who knows.
And simple IR cameras are only $350. Plus you can surely find a simple analog video recording device for around $100.
Probably a better use would be, to catch an IOB pushing on an object while you practice.
"Affirmations from the world around us", type of thing.
Carlos often pointed those out in private classes.
Water. It was usually centered around a water disruption.
So, if someone wants to "prove" something, I suggest a water cooler in your dark room, with glasses of water balanced on the top of the 5 gallon plastic jug.
Focus the IR on that scene.
But skip the aluminum wizard's hat. We aren't hunting aliens.
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Ok, that's possible.
Maybe they can block some light?
I've seen them in daylight. Both Fairy and Fancy look like smoke in daylight.
Maybe they can "diffuse" light.
The problem with the fish tank idea is, I suspect they know what you're up to.
They sense it.
Sometimes Cholita is showing off for me. She bends way over in shorts.
It's like an episode of "Three's Company".
I figure, it's on purpose so it's ok to take advantage.
If my hand even moves 1 inch towards my cellphone camera she says, "No way asshole!"
I don't know how she figures it out.
[deleted]
She has that spanish machisma thing going on.
You have to watch 1960s Mexican movies from the "golden age" to understand how it works.
Oh, I know machismo and machisma. Lots of mexican and spanish friends all my life.
I always found those movies very entertaining. Those were sick day viewings for me at 1pm on this local movie show. Even some of the modern ones like Desperado are good.
Cholita is like a 1960s movie star who had very very short hair.
Sometimes I think Carlos got the short hair idea from her, except that Cholita told me, it removed all male attention when she cut it. So that's what Carlos as really after.
But typical of that actress was to flirt, then do something dangerous, to make her man worry and hurt.
So Cholita is the type who might pure her arms around you in a cuddly fashion, but dig her fingernails in until blood is drawn.
She's more physical about it than a USA resident who's been "melting pot" modified.
Those torture mentally, not physically.
[deleted]
Not, it's not.
My last passport had a visa section so full, it might as well have been called that.
This is the only melting pot I saw.
Everywhere else, you had to familiarize yourself with the local bad, but acceptable, behavior.
I'll quote Cholita about Mexico:
"Every man there beats his wife. If they say differently, they're lying."
I noticed the same thing in Thailand.
In Japan, if you're in junior high, you'll get your face pushed into the dirt by your "superiors" (a year older). Korean children twice as much.
It's a socially acceptable part of growing up there. You have to learn about senpai/kohai.
That's the very thing that caused Buddhists to claim enlightenment was permanent, and screw up the minds of meditation students all over the world.
Zen students are especially messed up.
Fortunately, when we started having more "enlightened" Buddhist masters in the west, one of the things they did was to dispel that myth.
The honest ones that is. There's book deal minded people in the enlightened population also.
Which goes to show how little it's actually worth.
Don Juan didn't think much of "enlightenment" either.
Carlos made fun of the idea often in class.
And yet, both Juan and Lidotska will tell you, it does exist.
They've seen it.
[deleted]
Once in a while I hope a place like England is as mellowed out as here.
But if you find an honest local to ask, you find they still have a class system.
If you're from the soccer hoodlum class, that's what you'll always be expected to be there.
If you have royal blood, you get better treatment.
In Japan, there's the "unclean caste" to this day.
Only suitable for handling dead bodies, including leather working, and for managing crime (the yakuza).
If anyone heard Zatoichi say how lowly he is, being a gangster, and didn't understand what he was going on about, seeing as how he was a blind swordsman of unbeatable skill, he was actually saying he was from the unclean class.
Google maps posted an ancient map of Tokyo a decade or so ago, thinking they were doing a good thing.
It was on google maps as some sort of alternative.
Real estate prices in the old "unclean zone" plummeted until they had to remove references to that.
No one wanted to live in the spirit infested regions.
What????
That's the best part!
[deleted]
SPAD ticking like Geiger counters could work, you want more analog than digital, or very sensitive digital circuits without the standard charge accumulation, interpixel averaging, store&hold adcs and whatnot, to sense small disturbances.
Modern digital devices are very good at filtering out such "noise" even at the sampling stages, similar to human perception, but in contrast to humans digital circuits cannot magically increase sensitivity in darkness, the noise you'd see would be more quantization and thermal noise of the circuits than actual input.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-photon_avalanche_diode
You might as well use some wideband radio frequency scanning device (SDR with rPi recording for later analysis?) and see if there is anything surprising in the radio spectrum.
And you can try enclosing the darkroom/box in a Faraday cage to see whether it affects anything. Jacobo used Faraday cages in his experiments.
Interpixel averaging sensors are typically a fake. They were all the rage 15 years ago, but it turned out it's all done digitally, not at the analog level.
In other words, it's completely pointless. You could do that in post processing.
And yes, post processing of extremely small variations is also pointless. Thermal noise and random electromagnetic collisions (X rays, cosmic rays, and so on) would completely overshadow any other tiny effect.
I once programmed in circuit parallel processing to take a reading of the local radiation levels.
A strike by a powerful photon tends to go at angles, since the lens can't control such a thing.
So they leave tiny "streaks" around 3 pixels wide.
It's random "noise", but you can tell the difference between that noise, and quantization errors, because the odds of the noise are skewed across specific pixels which would correspond to a vector.
I suspect that's where you'd need to look. In that sort of thing.
The patterns in the noise.
But you'd have to give up the idea of a focused image.
The lens can't "collect" that sort of effect, and direct it.