So again, people are having "mistaken" experiences, and need to give you money?
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u/Michail_D
0 points2020-09-03 15:30
What does money have to do with it? What nonsense again? Are you interested anything in life besides money? Or maybe you live on the street? Or do you think someone paying me for this?
I'm sorry, but you're in trouble. Someone stuck on sex, someone on money. Or competition? This is your neurotic fixation. Stop projecting your problems onto me, ок?
Do you have anything to say on the subject of topic? Or will again think up slander about me? When you want to throw dirt on someone, remember how you with other Sunday classes members 20 years ago betrayed Carlos (good luck :)).
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u/mtflyer05
2 points2020-09-03 15:32
Calm down, kids. Both your penises are of adequate size...
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 15:46
Tell this Dan :))) Or throw someone a dollar to him, let him calm down, because he lives in the poorest country in the world, where besides money there are no other worries :)))
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u/mtflyer05
2 points2020-09-03 16:36
Your response wasnt much better than his original comment, though. For an "awakened" type sub, there sure seem to be a lot of fragile egos on here.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 16:54
My answer is not personal, I answer to the problem that Dan hitch up.
Personally, I don't really need to answer such nonsense (it does not matter to me for real), but what if this figure make someone to look deep into yourself? Any discussion for me is Socrates' method :)))
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u/mtflyer05
1 points2020-09-03 17:34
The issue is that it very rarely changes minds, and just turns into a game of kids pointing fingers.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 17:50
You're right. But I remember the precepts of Socrates and sometimes it works :)))
The sad thing is that not everyone gets that Sunday sessions was a game of kids pointing fingere in the river of egomania shit... Someone learn a lesson? Today the same thing would happen again, only worse (people have become even more spoiled).
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u/danl999
4 points2020-09-03 16:03
I'm trying to help people learn sorcery, and you're trying to promote your business.
If I heard any inkling of understanding coming from you, that wouldn't bother me.
Sell sorcery! Go ahead. It would actually make me happy, if you had something that worked.
Trouble is, if it works your customer soon doesn't need you.
Sorcery is not a good business model, unless it does not work.
I've heard you do this same thing elsewhere in discussion groups, until you have to be kicked out.
So forget the idea that this is just a personality conflict.
That shows your dishonesty.
Trying to pretend the problem is me, not you.
The first day you posted here, I got multiple warnings about you.
It's always the same. You and only you understand sorcery. And it's some kind of mental analysis we need to learn.
But you have to be paid to impart it.
That's all over Russia. People selling sorcery techniques which don't work at all.
If they did, we'd be hearing tales of power, coming from all over Russia.
But there's nothing.
If on the other hand you had such knowledge, you are welcome to share it freely in here, and let people try out your techniques and report back.
No one's stopping that.
The fixation on money isn't with me. I have enough, which I spend mostly on other people, not on me.
And as for sex, I'm celibate. So no fixation there, other than to appreciate energetic women.
Those were social threats!
When you don't get your way, you resort to name calling based on the social order.
Really?
Your web page sounds like a "I'm a good guy" web page, where you show how helpful you are.
The materials you provide are nice, but so does Sustained Action provide materials, and we've seen the kind of madness that place produces, in our recent visitor.
My purpose here is clear, I stated it in my first post.
I don't want to see the knowledge of Carlos go down the drain.
You aren't helping.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 16:18
I'm trying to help people learn sorcery
... and need to give you money? (do like the answer in your style? :)))
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 16:32
I don't want to see the knowledge of Carlos go down the drain.
You know what's funny? That shit all of you made in Sunday classes continues... You're fixed on nonsense that doesn't exist. You're still don't understand Castaneda's lesson about yours sick egomania.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 16:36
If on the other hand you had such knowledge, you are welcome to share it freely in here, and let people try out your techniques and report back.
I do just that! But for some reason you have a problem with it. Why? Everything that I write is not only in experience, but also tested at the method level.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 16:46
I've heard you do this same thing elsewhere in discussion groups, until you have to be kicked out.
It's a lie. Do you believe everything they tell you? They have their own motives, which you do not know. You want to know? Here is (I quote the answer on this matter):
Why does competition often seem to be the reason? These are the spasms of egomania (ignorance and fear). Two options: 1) Someone in a discussion on a subject wants to show his importance, but cannot prove his knowledge on these question and loses the argument, therefore he fills himself with poison and tries to take revenge to the winner. They are eaten by complain and anger. Poor baby syndrome. 2) Banal competition. There are people who want to push out others to feel himself the only "guru". Often bots work for them and breed slander. These people are very sick that there is someone who able to know, practice and have experience. They are eaten by greed and envy. Blind Guru syndrome.
The problem is that both types of egomania get stuck in reactions to the personality, but not in search, cognition and practice. Such people do not care about the Path, they think only of themselves, although they hide themselves behind good motives.
Isn't all that Sunday classes shit teaching people anything? Today I am sure that Castaneda deliberately raised all that human shit to the surface to make an illustration for future followers - how should not doing so to get out of the river of shit.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-09-03 18:37
It's a lie.
If it's a lie, how come he told me before I even read your posts, exactly how you would behave in here?
We only see that sort of behavior in people trying to make a name for themselves, and wanting to sell stuff.
Do you have sorcery lessons for sale?
As for a lot of good practitioners in Russia, I suspect my sources are better than yours.
People write to me all the time. Sometimes it takes 3 hours just to answer the days emails.
Some even like to be spies for me.
I've been told there are NO good practitioners in the eastern bloc. It's either men fighting with each other over who's more impeccable, or woman sharing and visiting.
I suppose you believe that if there were "good practitioners" we wouldn't hear their tales of power?
Because no one actually does real magic? It's all an intellectual trip?
Or if you actually believe sorcery works, where are the tales of power?
Point me to a "good practitioner". Even one!
Did you even read the books?
That's what sorcery looks like.
That's why people get excited.
Not to put themselves on some mental trip, so that more bad men can sell them yet more bad mental trips.
Pretending is not sorcery.
We have people come to this subreddit, because they're finally fed up with the pretend meditation schools and magical techniques.
If any one of those work, people get excited, and word spreads.
Entire religions are started by the excitement when someone can do real magic.
When people claim they're keeping magic secret, it's obvious what's going on.
They're protecting a business that sells false promises.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 19:17
How am I behaving? I post the material, and you freak out. Why are you mad? Find the reason in yourself.
As for me, I not do "magic" at all and don't use this word (because it is wrong). You're caught up in gossip.
It's simple. Can you say something on the subject of the topic? Not. You are discussing me. Why? I am sure the readers are much more interested in reading about practical methods and experiments than about the nonsense that you say about me.
It’s ridiculous that there are no practitioners in the eastern block. Do you know better how things are with us? Of course not. This is your inflated conceit. And your love for rumors and swearing (nothing has changed at the time Sustained Action). And at the same time, you are drowning in the slander that people you have never seen have told you. This is very naive and stupid.
What's the problem with you? Do you want the truth? Go repent with your Sunday classes friends, because you were the one who destroyed Carlos's reputation chasing of fame and money (yes, you are the one who writes Amy, Gabi's books and sells BBC materials, etc.). We didn’t do such shit, but practiced and collected knowledge on crumbs ...
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u/danl999
3 points2020-09-03 19:38
Can you say something on the subject of the topic?
Do you have a book in mind, where you teach the "true meaning" of the books of Carlos Castaneda?
As someone suggested?
I sure have messed up that deal, didn't I?
And your missstating the facts.
You don't come in here and just write your ideas.
Each idea contains the thought that you can make a mistake and fool yourself.
False silence. False vision from looking at too much white stuff.
False dreaming.
Everything you post is all about how others are wrong, and you have the right information.
It's not advice from your experiece! It's sales pitches.
Come on, it's childish!
You're like a little kid looking at the neighbors Mom make cookies.
And you pretend to be offering "advice" on cookie making.
But it's all, "That's not going to taste good that way."
There's no advice at all, just complaining.
You think everyone else doesn't see you suggesting that what's obviously working is mistaken, and that they need to come to you, to fix the mistakes?
We've got real magic in here!
It's never happened in the Castaneda community.
You should be happy.
But you're ignoring it.
You have no interest at all in sorcery, it's obvious.
Now, I do hope you write that book.
Debunk the debunkers.
But don't try to share your understanding of Castaneda, until you can stop the world, change worlds, manipulate IOBs, and see energy on the horizon.
The stuff Carlos was doing in the books.
Stop pretending. Then finish the book.
There's only one thing to learn in sorcery:
Silence the internal dialogue.
Yours is very noisy.
Even just trying to make you play nice, makes mine noisier.
But it's good petty tyrant practice.
I can't figure out whether you take away the power of your type of petty tyrant, by arguing until they lose face, or by not talking to them.
In the case of John2020, each point I answered was ignored, and he created 3 new ones from it.
He kept an ever expanding list of "questions" he wanted to force me to answer, or else he "won".
That was the way on sustained action.
You're different.
Doesn't seem right to entirely ignore you.
I just wish you'd get a decent job, so you don't cling to your book deal so hard.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 20:13
I just wish you'd get a decent job, so you don't cling to your book deal so hard.
I work in IT. I'm telling you - you were fooled :)))
As for the books, they are in the public. As for the work on translations, we not only do it for free, but also pay for materials and editing. You have no idea how books, etc. are made. You are living a destructive fantasy "book deal" that justifies you as a cuckoo who wants to become a guru. Bad luck with that :)))
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 20:18
Do you have a book in mind, where you teach the "true meaning" of the books of Carlos Castaneda?
Where is this nonsense? There is no such book. What are you talking about? Look at the topic. Are you completely lost?
I sure have messed up that deal, didn't I?
Are you paranoid? I post book for free, you say that I want to sell it to you. Are you adequate?
It's not advice from your experiece! It's sales pitches.
For whom? Where did you find it? It is not here. What the next nonsense?
Everything you post is all about how others are wrong, and you have the right information.
Not true. This is how you perceive it, because you have a fixation that only you are right. Don't speak for others, speak for yourself.
We've got real magic in here!
Maybe fantasies and hallucinations? :)))
About "magic" should have been talked about 20 years ago when Carlos was betrayed and slandered.
It's never happened in the Castaneda community.
You forgot that this forum is not the whole community of Castaneda. You overestimate yourself and behave like a cuckoo, just like your friends from Sunday classes 20 years ago, it's the same :)
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u/Michail_D
0 points2020-09-03 20:01
4 all...
In general, what is real. No one cares about the restoration of Castaneda's reputation. Only empty words for the sake of playing "guru". This is what ruined the Sunday classes, people are unable to work together on a goal and practice without egomania. People behave like cuckoos. It doesn't matter that they saw Carlos at the seminar. Because the jealous cuckoo, inflated with conceit, is ontologically incapable to development. And those who understand this turn into betrayers and slanderers. This is exactly what happened, and is still happening. And no matter how beautiful words and good motives are said, it will not work.
Your self-importance is killing you. But who is listening? No one. Therefore, Castaneda's legacy is sinking. Because of people like that. And do not think that this is about others. Look for someone to blame - look in the mirror.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 19:36
If any one of those work, people get excited, and word spreads.
Where? To this forum? :))) If you knew the real about the eastern block, you would be unpleasantly surprised.
And you know, I will no answer your slander and nonsense about me. Benefit from your insinuations zero. If there are questions about practice, it's good, if not, I don't care.
And I'll think about, maybe I'll post materials that show you what question are being discussed in the eastern block and what they know from practice. Probably lucky that I don't speak English well :)))
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 17:57
That's all over Russia.
I am not from Russia, at first :))) Second, you are wrong about the "eastern block" there are many good practitioners. And the knowledge about Path is no less.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-04 05:55
Dan, you know what I want to thank you for? Now I know exactly what the Sunday classes were made of. What material. After all, nothing has changed.
Competition, greed, jealousy, gossip and slander, belief in one's chosenness and the desire to be a guru, stupidity, obsession with fame (+ for whom - sex), etc. Complete list of shit. You bathed in it and smeared each other. They believed that were fighting for Carlos's attention, but he laughed at you (and when he was alone he cursed that he took it).
I now understand why he said: Sunday classes were his biggest mistake. He collected completely unfit people for practice. He wanted to insert bones into a jellyfish. But he received betrayers and slanderers in return. First, you ate him with your egomania, then you achieved fame and money at the expense of his name - wrote books, sold videos and photos, etc. And you Dan are the same. 20 years ago you sang in unison with slanderers, today you tell stories about "magic". But as a person, you have not changed. As you lived with all that shit, you still live. And if nothing has changed in you, then your "magic" is nothing.
Judas repented and hanged himself, he had the strength to admit the truth. What about you?
* yes, I do not speak for 100% of people from Sunday classes, but for 90% for sure.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-09-04 15:38
You're just stacking up the stuff for people to read, to see what shit Carlos had to deal with.
I can see why he came up with the idea of the fliers mind. Because if you try to help people escape, not only do normal people fight back, and try to stop it, but a whole industry of me-too sorcerer 'teachers" springs up, to try to get their share.
And everything they teach is designed to stop people from learning.
I'm just suprised to see that the same thing is happening to me, when I try to teach.
There's a lot of mental illness in the Castaneda fan crowd.
And a lot of men who's self-image depends on controlling other people.
I supposed I should prepare for Ken, Miguel, Armando, Victor, and the rest to decide to focus on this subreddit too.
Carlos was under constant attack, and would tell us about it in private classes.
He even had some former pampered students begin to attack, as we see with John.
But that attack wasn't, "me-too". It was an attempt to "debunk" him.
By the way, they're callled, "The MAGICAL passes."
I suppose you don't like that word, because you can't do what 8 others in here can do.
Produce visible magic.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-04 17:27
There's a lot of mental illness in the Castaneda fan crowd.
And a lot of men who's self-image depends on controlling other people.
That is why they are attracted by "magic". And that is why magic was considered a dead end in don Juan's tradition.
But do as you know, this is your life. I have my own :)
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
3 points2020-09-04 17:33
I can see why he came up with the idea of the fliers mind
You underestimate Carlos. I don;t think he invented things in his books so easy just to make people learn or do smth he wanted to.. It was not only my own experience when i've felt flier;s mind so strong. I've communicated with other people and some of them told pretty much the same thing. Even Cleargreen facilitator Dergay has told me he felt it many times.. I don't think our mind is ours and if you analyse it through the Active side of Infinity you would feel that Carlos didn't invent stuff at all..
The mind of a predator is the mind of a dinosaur. Tony Karam said the same in 1992: "Don Juan said that we still see the world as the dinosaurs saw it, and the great feat of the sorcerer is to smash that dinosaur egg."
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u/danl999
5 points2020-09-04 18:13
Could be!
But if he made it up as a "Metaphor" as he told Amy, it was a good one!
As soon as you try to teach sorcery in public, the rabid squirrels come out, looking for nuts.
However, I have to remind you.
All you have to do to overcome the fliers, is become "impeccable" in your behavior.
Or better said, learn to be silent. You can't possibly be impeccable if you aren't silent.
So if they exist, it's more of a curiosity.
I wish you guys could see Carlos demonstrating how they lick your feet.
Maybe one day, in re-run mode?
But you can get a feel for how he demonstrated it, by giving your dog a teaspoon full of peanut butter.
Then guide their head down by your feet and watch the show!
When we find out if they exist for sure, I say we travel to their world and kick their butts!
We might be the first in history to gain the energetic mass to do a thing like that.
With the internet, we could end up with tens of thousands capable of finding their world and going there.
There's no time in the past when that was possible.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
2 points2020-09-04 18:25
When we find out if they exist for sure, I say we travel to their world and kick their butts!
We might be the first in history to gain the energetic mass to do a thing like that
Sounds like a nice challenge to me.)
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u/danl999
2 points2020-09-04 18:41
I'd love to see Cholita lead the fleet!
She probably wouldn't care who's butt we were going to kick.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 08:41
By the way, they're callled, "The MAGICAL passes."
In fact, they were called sorcery passes (see Taisha's book), and before that shamanic movements "for seeing the fiber of the world" (Castaneda showed them in 1971-72 at a seminar), and before that these passes were called movements power of or ethnically dances of power (spirit). Magical Passes is a catchy name for a brand to sell better for a westerner.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-09-05 15:05
You have absolutely no interest in sorcery.
Why not go somewhere else to bother people and get attention?
Sell your mental masturbation trips to people who don't know any better.
Everyone in here does know better.
And it's very obvious you just want to be known as a "sorcerer."
That's all you want.
The title.
And you're willing to deceive people to get it!
People like you come through here every 2 or 3 weeks.
They fall into categories.
You're the "I'm a good guy, I only want to help people learn." type.
Those always explode when you point out their mistakes. They start cursing everything in sight, and it becomes obvious they have a violent nature and are driven by anger.
You aren't going to find any nuts in here, Mr. Squirrel.
You'll probably spoil your reputation bigtime, and not be able to complete your book deal, which you deny having in mind.
By the way, that article you wrote on restoring Carlos' reputation was great. Add that to some of Spanish language material documenting people who witnessed don Juan, and Carlos being down in mexico all the time, and you'd actually have a decent book there.
But don't add in your masturbations. Keep that to yourself, and try to do it only at night, when self-pity overcomes you.
I don't want to scare anyone off from giving their own advice on how to learn sorcery.
But this poster did not give any.
His advice was always that you're mistaken in what you are doing, and need to change to his ideas, which are 100% intellectual and 0% practical.
I was warned by multiple people about him before I even knew what he'd post. They said it's always the same.
I'm afraid, I have to call that sort of thing out. It causes people to put off actually learning sorcery.
I'm telling them to work so hard, they nearly faint.
He's telling them to suck their thumb.
Some people will try that for a few years, and then it'll be too late for them.
The older you get, the worse it is.
And it's so difficult to convince people to put in the work. Can't afford people trying to confuse others.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
1 points2020-09-05 16:43
The less a person recapitulates and does stalking of his own ego and habits the harder is to persuade him pointing out his mistakes. Its obvious that besides the theoretical job this dude does nothing. But Don Juan told that warrior lives by action not by words or thoughts about action..
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u/danl999
3 points2020-09-05 17:03
It's worse than that.
He's trying to redefine sorcery as not having any magic.
Did he even read the books? It's all magic, all the time!
That's what hooks people.
And it's what's taken down the reputation of Castaneda. The lack of actual magic in the Castaneda community.
Carlos has become a laughing stock in the lucid dreaming, shamanism, and meditation forums.
Where we used to find his biggest supporters.
But Mikhail doesn't care if it goes down the toilet, because he plans to replace Carlos.
With his fabulous book and super wonderful understanding of "sorcery".
He comes in here, sees an actual student of Carlos trying to help people, realizes people are doing real magic, tries to claim it's imaginary, ignores that it all comes from internal silence alone, precisely the thing don Juan said turns you into a sorcerer, then realizes there are multiple people enjoying real magic for the first time.
So he comes up with the idea that sorcery has no magic.
Hear that? You are all mistaken.
You're doing, "False Sorcery."
Did everyone get that? Mikhail's sorcery has no magic.
And that's the way he likes it.
It's just some form of mental masturbation. A term Carlos used often to describe his behavior.
For him, sorcery is like puffing yourself up, like a blowfish.
You make your head look huge, so the other fish your run into are impressed and fearful.
He's a blowfish sorcerer!
But once in a while his head explodes, as you can see here if he didn't delete his comments.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
2 points2020-09-05 17:12
I can imagine that he would visit Carlos classes and would point out discrepancy between smth in his books and lectures and how properly it must be written to be then tossed out from the class right afterwards))
People like him are so blind and suffocated by their ego that reading Carlos's books does not open their eyes, they are blind and duff and continue their wrong path despite anything happens around- even if DJ himself would appear and tell him in his face: You are dumb ass, go do smth besides mental masturbation- i doubt it would help.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 17:48
Another nonsense and speculative fantasies. I know what it means to learn from the teacher. And when I was studying I was one of the best students, because I did ordered without my own opinion. Could you do that? Hardly.
One who cannot be a student cannot be a teacher. Sunday classes showed - there were no students, there were parasites.
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u/Michail_D
2 points2020-09-05 17:43
“But you don’t consider yourself a sorcerer, don Juan, do you?” I asked.
“No, I don’t,” he said. "I am a warrior who sees. In fact, all of us are los nuevos videntes. The new seers. The old seers were the sorcerers." For the average man, "he continued," sorcery is a negative business, but it is fascinating all the same. That's why I encouraged you, in your normal awareness, to think of us as sorcerers. It's advisable to do so. It serves to attract interest. But for us to be sorcerers would be like entering a deadend street. "
- The Fire From Within
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u/danl999
3 points2020-09-05 18:01
Yes, it's the "mastery of intent".
We've been over that. We aren't playing word games in here, because there's real magic you can experience.
People want to put their efforts into understanding that. The old days of inspirational quotes and word games are over.
That's what real magic teaches you. The mastery of intent.
There's no other way to learn it!
I suppose you can see your book deal going up in smoke.
And you won't just leave here to go look for nuts elsewhere. That won't help you anymore.
The magic in here is going to spread, and ruin all chances you have for a book deal.
It won't matter who you hassle or chat with.
It will be common knowledge that Carlos' technology works in a spectacular manner, and those who can't make it do that never put in the effort to learn.
And worse, the people who insist on their magic free interpretations will look like villains.
Put out a book like you have planned, and your reputation will be destroyed.
I guess you can be just another Miguel, or Armando, or Victor, or any other number of people who take money under false premises, and damage anyone who falls for their "teachings".
If you stopped commenting in here, and put that time into dark room gazing, you'd be further along than you've progressed in all the time you became interested.
All you have to do is get out of bed, and go to work for a change.
But you keep pulling up the covers, and shouting at the person trying to wake you up.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 19:11
The old days of inspirational quotes and word games are over.
Yes, we went through that 12 years ago. But you still in this. I give objective data, in response - you get hysterical and nonsense about me. Is this rotten "magic" from Sunday classes? You're in the same shit as you were 20 years ago. Do not pretend to be innocent, you are one of those who killed Carlos with your egomania. Therefore, do not make yourself a righteous man.
All you have to do is get out of bed, and go to work for a change.
Are you blind or deaf? Why are you like a record saying the same thing and the same nonsense? I work in IT, after which I work as an editor for free, etc. Come to us in a country where there is a war and wages are 300 dollars in the national average. Come, it's not for you in LA on the beach to rinse your ass in the ocean :)))
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 19:15
The funny thing is that you deny what don Juan says and do in your opinion. But at the same time, you believe that only you are following the correct intention. This is a contradiction.
And yes, Dan I finished communicating with you. You act like a fanatic, like a guru who collects a cult. Except for nonsense addressed to me from you, I do not hear. So go do your "magic", but don't talk to me, ok? Do you have the strength to curb your egomania?
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 21:27
Put out a book like you have planned, and your reputation will be destroyed.
What the hell are you talking about all the time? Do you understand that you are talking about your own fantasy? What "magic" can you talk about if you are not able to understand elementary things? You believe in a lie (which you probably invented yourself), but at the same time you teach me how to live. Solve your problems with unbridled imagination and speeches stuck like a record about things that do not exist, and then give advice.
Especially for you I say this. Wake up already in the real world. You are not Carlos, you fucked up the real "magic" 20 years ago. You are not a new nagual and you are not creating a new tradition. Take it easy. Exhale. Go to the mirror and open your eyes. Yes, this is you. This is a story about you. And not about me or anyone else.
Good luck! Nice to see you...
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 17:56
Obviously, this is easy to verify. Can you answer my questions without theory from your own experience? Let's check?
What happens when you eliminate lucid dreaming content? This is a simple question. I am waiting for a answer from your personal practice.
Do you know how many theorists who posed as practitioners I saw? Lots of. Now you will join this "legion" :)))
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-05 17:43
You have absolutely no interest in sorcery.
...
And it's very obvious you just want to be known as a "sorcerer."
???!!! Are you not worried that you contradict yourself?
I say: I don't care about "magic". You write that I want to be a "sorcerer". Do you read what write to you or are you just listening to yourself?
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 15:34
people are having "mistaken"
Distinguish fantasy from reality. Here's what.
And pay attention to the written - not "people", but "we will be mistaken ".
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u/Juann2323
3 points2020-09-03 17:02
We are not mad at you. But what kind of information is that? Where did you get it?
On the contrary, if someone sees a fog or something like glass, I would tell them to keep looking at it! it is very likely that this is the second attention!
And regarding the fog of astral travel ... anyone who has done several will tell you that you cannot establish a constant to say that it is real or not.
They are very changeable. A fog to define if it is energy or not? you have to learn to "see" for that. Or at least if it is so fucking real, you can say the dream has energy.
The Intent is very sensitive, which is why we cannot afford to hear bad advice. We need the best advice, to put it into practice and progress quickly.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 17:10
We are not mad at you. But what kind of information is that? Where did you get it?
From my practice, knowledge and experience. And this is not only my unique experience, but also the experience of other people who were able to achieve results with me (and also from those from whom I studied). I have said many times that everything I write - working (and this can be understood even without terms like "sorcery", etc.). The bad thing is that I do not speak English enough to give details of the subtlety of methods and states (so why Dan's claims are ridiculous).
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u/Juann2323
3 points2020-09-03 17:27
In those tips I don't see useful information on how to move the assemblage point. It even says: "tips on how to keep the assemblage point fixed!".
Is that your knowledge? Say that if you see something unusual between your fingers, it is a "persistent psychophysical phenomena"?
I would say: do you see anything unusual? dive headfirst into it! Anything unusual can move the assemblage point.
If you have really worked and obtained results you should know it.
Yes I have the same problem with the language. My native language is spanish. But for me: if it is extremly detailed, it doesnt work.
After all, the techniques are for "summoning the Intent". There are no procedures actually.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 17:44
In fact, you can move the assemblage point without talking about the "assemblage point", but you can constantly talk about it, but not be able to move.
I showed you where you can get stuck. Can you distinguish fantasies from actual processes? Or for you there is no difference between imagination and reality?
To make a shift in consciousness further, where there will be a "spider web in the air", etc. these and other barriers must be overcome.
In truth, I can methodically tell a lot of info, but... as I see it, few people need it :)))
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u/Juann2323
2 points2020-09-03 18:03
>I showed you where you can get stuck. Can you distinguish fantasies from actual processes? Or for you there is no difference between imagination and reality?
"fantasies"? You didn't talk about fantasies. You said to see something unusual between your fingers. If you see it with your own eyes, it is not a fantasy. We are talking about the second attention. The only thing you showed is how to ignore the second attention, classifying it as fantasy. That I would call unlearning. It is exactly the same thing that a mother says to her baby, so that he ignores the magic around him.
> To make a shift in consciousness further, where there will be a "spider web in the air", etc. these and other barriers must be overcome.
If you see a spider web you are doing very well. It means that your assemblage point moved. It means that you are on the right track. Keep playing with them, and it will keep moving, until you can see other things. It is not a barrier.
> In truth, I can methodically tell you a lot of what Dan is telling you, but in different terms. Probably, he doesn't like it, that's why he is so jealous :)))
That is your problem. Do you think it is a matter of ego? It is not. Do you think Dan criticizes you because you know as much as he does?
I do not think so. Dan reproaches you because you are giving terrible advices. Dan's job here is to teach us how to connect with the Intent.
And for advice like yours, people can lose the progress that cost them so much work. That is why every time you say something stupid he will have to appear and highlight it.
So that people like me, who are really trying to learn, don't lose our way. You are hurting people who really want to learn.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-03 18:31
It is not a barrier.
Barriers are the 2 points that I wrote in the topic. These are exactly the traps which may be mistaken for "heightened awareness".
If my advice someone taken out of fantasies - not my problem. I'm interested in reality, not fantasy-style imagination. Yes, people don't like to lose their illusions.
My advice is methodically argued and tested. They can be understood and repeated. I can teach people to see flickering air in 20 minutes, because this is a physiological effect (noise of visual modality). Look at the air as a flat layer, fix it and wait. Appeared? Congratulations, but this is not a vision of energy or intent or whatever.
Terrible advice is when people imagine they are doing something real. This is not the case for Dan's idea for the most part, but there are many questions and comments. I'm talking about principle. That is why Castaneda's books are a methodology, not a collection of beautiful words about beautiful fantasies. Therefore, Castaneda created Tensegrity as a key that opens the knowledge inherent in books.
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u/calixto_mooneeeee
1 points2020-09-05 22:47
Does your ego tells you are the only genius person here, when all the rest of users keep telling you might be wrong?) any super tiny chance that one day you would stop pretending being a nagualist and ask yourself why in the world I try to prove evryone around that I am always right? Could I be always right? May be I should stop writing comments on how good I know Carlos's life details and point out to others how bad they know everything about Carlos and nagualism? Maybe you would get a cubic cm of chance to understand that all that you have been doing was raising your ego and wasting time on useless collection of data that only spoils you by giving you a sense of being the only one impeccable warrior who knows the truth?
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-06 05:56
Do you know what I had seen? For you, nagualism is gossip about someone. You are not capable of anything other than that. It is an infection of Sunday classes, a virus that has infiltrated nagualism.
If you are studying and practicing something you should know everything about it. How can you practice what you don't understand it? No way. This is fantasy.
As for my ego, leave it alone - it is doing well. Better answer the practice question I asked. No answer? Then be quiet.
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So again, people are having "mistaken" experiences, and need to give you money?
What does money have to do with it? What nonsense again? Are you interested anything in life besides money? Or maybe you live on the street? Or do you think someone paying me for this?
I'm sorry, but you're in trouble. Someone stuck on sex, someone on money. Or competition? This is your neurotic fixation. Stop projecting your problems onto me, ок?
Do you have anything to say on the subject of topic? Or will again think up slander about me? When you want to throw dirt on someone, remember how you with other Sunday classes members 20 years ago betrayed Carlos (good luck :)).
Calm down, kids. Both your penises are of adequate size...
Tell this Dan :))) Or throw someone a dollar to him, let him calm down, because he lives in the poorest country in the world, where besides money there are no other worries :)))
Your response wasnt much better than his original comment, though. For an "awakened" type sub, there sure seem to be a lot of fragile egos on here.
My answer is not personal, I answer to the problem that Dan hitch up.
Personally, I don't really need to answer such nonsense (it does not matter to me for real), but what if this figure make someone to look deep into yourself? Any discussion for me is Socrates' method :)))
The issue is that it very rarely changes minds, and just turns into a game of kids pointing fingers.
You're right. But I remember the precepts of Socrates and sometimes it works :)))
The sad thing is that not everyone gets that Sunday sessions was a game of kids pointing fingere in the river of egomania shit... Someone learn a lesson? Today the same thing would happen again, only worse (people have become even more spoiled).
I'm trying to help people learn sorcery, and you're trying to promote your business.
If I heard any inkling of understanding coming from you, that wouldn't bother me.
Sell sorcery! Go ahead. It would actually make me happy, if you had something that worked.
Trouble is, if it works your customer soon doesn't need you.
Sorcery is not a good business model, unless it does not work.
I've heard you do this same thing elsewhere in discussion groups, until you have to be kicked out.
So forget the idea that this is just a personality conflict.
That shows your dishonesty.
Trying to pretend the problem is me, not you.
The first day you posted here, I got multiple warnings about you.
It's always the same. You and only you understand sorcery. And it's some kind of mental analysis we need to learn.
But you have to be paid to impart it.
That's all over Russia. People selling sorcery techniques which don't work at all.
If they did, we'd be hearing tales of power, coming from all over Russia.
But there's nothing.
If on the other hand you had such knowledge, you are welcome to share it freely in here, and let people try out your techniques and report back.
No one's stopping that.
The fixation on money isn't with me. I have enough, which I spend mostly on other people, not on me.
And as for sex, I'm celibate. So no fixation there, other than to appreciate energetic women.
Those were social threats!
When you don't get your way, you resort to name calling based on the social order.
Really?
Your web page sounds like a "I'm a good guy" web page, where you show how helpful you are.
The materials you provide are nice, but so does Sustained Action provide materials, and we've seen the kind of madness that place produces, in our recent visitor.
My purpose here is clear, I stated it in my first post.
I don't want to see the knowledge of Carlos go down the drain.
You aren't helping.
... and need to give you money? (do like the answer in your style? :)))
You know what's funny? That shit all of you made in Sunday classes continues... You're fixed on nonsense that doesn't exist. You're still don't understand Castaneda's lesson about yours sick egomania.
I do just that! But for some reason you have a problem with it. Why? Everything that I write is not only in experience, but also tested at the method level.
It's a lie. Do you believe everything they tell you? They have their own motives, which you do not know. You want to know? Here is (I quote the answer on this matter):
Why does competition often seem to be the reason? These are the spasms of egomania (ignorance and fear). Two options: 1) Someone in a discussion on a subject wants to show his importance, but cannot prove his knowledge on these question and loses the argument, therefore he fills himself with poison and tries to take revenge to the winner. They are eaten by complain and anger. Poor baby syndrome. 2) Banal competition. There are people who want to push out others to feel himself the only "guru". Often bots work for them and breed slander. These people are very sick that there is someone who able to know, practice and have experience. They are eaten by greed and envy. Blind Guru syndrome.
The problem is that both types of egomania get stuck in reactions to the personality, but not in search, cognition and practice. Such people do not care about the Path, they think only of themselves, although they hide themselves behind good motives.
Isn't all that Sunday classes shit teaching people anything? Today I am sure that Castaneda deliberately raised all that human shit to the surface to make an illustration for future followers - how should not doing so to get out of the river of shit.
If it's a lie, how come he told me before I even read your posts, exactly how you would behave in here?
We only see that sort of behavior in people trying to make a name for themselves, and wanting to sell stuff.
Do you have sorcery lessons for sale?
As for a lot of good practitioners in Russia, I suspect my sources are better than yours.
People write to me all the time. Sometimes it takes 3 hours just to answer the days emails.
Some even like to be spies for me.
I've been told there are NO good practitioners in the eastern bloc. It's either men fighting with each other over who's more impeccable, or woman sharing and visiting.
I suppose you believe that if there were "good practitioners" we wouldn't hear their tales of power?
Because no one actually does real magic? It's all an intellectual trip?
Or if you actually believe sorcery works, where are the tales of power?
Point me to a "good practitioner". Even one!
Did you even read the books?
That's what sorcery looks like.
That's why people get excited.
Not to put themselves on some mental trip, so that more bad men can sell them yet more bad mental trips.
Pretending is not sorcery.
We have people come to this subreddit, because they're finally fed up with the pretend meditation schools and magical techniques.
If any one of those work, people get excited, and word spreads.
Entire religions are started by the excitement when someone can do real magic.
When people claim they're keeping magic secret, it's obvious what's going on.
They're protecting a business that sells false promises.
How am I behaving? I post the material, and you freak out. Why are you mad? Find the reason in yourself.
As for me, I not do "magic" at all and don't use this word (because it is wrong). You're caught up in gossip.
It's simple. Can you say something on the subject of the topic? Not. You are discussing me. Why? I am sure the readers are much more interested in reading about practical methods and experiments than about the nonsense that you say about me.
It’s ridiculous that there are no practitioners in the eastern block. Do you know better how things are with us? Of course not. This is your inflated conceit. And your love for rumors and swearing (nothing has changed at the time Sustained Action). And at the same time, you are drowning in the slander that people you have never seen have told you. This is very naive and stupid.
What's the problem with you? Do you want the truth? Go repent with your Sunday classes friends, because you were the one who destroyed Carlos's reputation chasing of fame and money (yes, you are the one who writes Amy, Gabi's books and sells BBC materials, etc.). We didn’t do such shit, but practiced and collected knowledge on crumbs ...
Do you have a book in mind, where you teach the "true meaning" of the books of Carlos Castaneda?
As someone suggested?
I sure have messed up that deal, didn't I?
And your missstating the facts.
You don't come in here and just write your ideas.
Each idea contains the thought that you can make a mistake and fool yourself.
False silence. False vision from looking at too much white stuff.
False dreaming.
Everything you post is all about how others are wrong, and you have the right information.
It's not advice from your experiece! It's sales pitches.
Come on, it's childish!
You're like a little kid looking at the neighbors Mom make cookies.
And you pretend to be offering "advice" on cookie making.
But it's all, "That's not going to taste good that way."
There's no advice at all, just complaining.
You think everyone else doesn't see you suggesting that what's obviously working is mistaken, and that they need to come to you, to fix the mistakes?
We've got real magic in here!
It's never happened in the Castaneda community.
You should be happy.
But you're ignoring it.
You have no interest at all in sorcery, it's obvious.
Now, I do hope you write that book.
Debunk the debunkers.
But don't try to share your understanding of Castaneda, until you can stop the world, change worlds, manipulate IOBs, and see energy on the horizon.
The stuff Carlos was doing in the books.
Stop pretending. Then finish the book.
There's only one thing to learn in sorcery:
Silence the internal dialogue.
Yours is very noisy.
Even just trying to make you play nice, makes mine noisier.
But it's good petty tyrant practice.
I can't figure out whether you take away the power of your type of petty tyrant, by arguing until they lose face, or by not talking to them.
In the case of John2020, each point I answered was ignored, and he created 3 new ones from it.
He kept an ever expanding list of "questions" he wanted to force me to answer, or else he "won".
That was the way on sustained action.
You're different.
Doesn't seem right to entirely ignore you.
I just wish you'd get a decent job, so you don't cling to your book deal so hard.
I work in IT. I'm telling you - you were fooled :)))
As for the books, they are in the public. As for the work on translations, we not only do it for free, but also pay for materials and editing. You have no idea how books, etc. are made. You are living a destructive fantasy "book deal" that justifies you as a cuckoo who wants to become a guru. Bad luck with that :)))
Where is this nonsense? There is no such book. What are you talking about? Look at the topic. Are you completely lost?
Are you paranoid? I post book for free, you say that I want to sell it to you. Are you adequate?
For whom? Where did you find it? It is not here. What the next nonsense?
Not true. This is how you perceive it, because you have a fixation that only you are right. Don't speak for others, speak for yourself.
Maybe fantasies and hallucinations? :)))
About "magic" should have been talked about 20 years ago when Carlos was betrayed and slandered.
You forgot that this forum is not the whole community of Castaneda. You overestimate yourself and behave like a cuckoo, just like your friends from Sunday classes 20 years ago, it's the same :)
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In general, what is real. No one cares about the restoration of Castaneda's reputation. Only empty words for the sake of playing "guru". This is what ruined the Sunday classes, people are unable to work together on a goal and practice without egomania. People behave like cuckoos. It doesn't matter that they saw Carlos at the seminar. Because the jealous cuckoo, inflated with conceit, is ontologically incapable to development. And those who understand this turn into betrayers and slanderers. This is exactly what happened, and is still happening. And no matter how beautiful words and good motives are said, it will not work.
Your self-importance is killing you. But who is listening? No one. Therefore, Castaneda's legacy is sinking. Because of people like that. And do not think that this is about others. Look for someone to blame - look in the mirror.
Where? To this forum? :))) If you knew the real about the eastern block, you would be unpleasantly surprised.
And you know, I will no answer your slander and nonsense about me. Benefit from your insinuations zero. If there are questions about practice, it's good, if not, I don't care.
And I'll think about, maybe I'll post materials that show you what question are being discussed in the eastern block and what they know from practice. Probably lucky that I don't speak English well :)))
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I am not from Russia, at first :))) Second, you are wrong about the "eastern block" there are many good practitioners. And the knowledge about Path is no less.
Dan, you know what I want to thank you for? Now I know exactly what the Sunday classes were made of. What material. After all, nothing has changed.
Competition, greed, jealousy, gossip and slander, belief in one's chosenness and the desire to be a guru, stupidity, obsession with fame (+ for whom - sex), etc. Complete list of shit. You bathed in it and smeared each other. They believed that were fighting for Carlos's attention, but he laughed at you (and when he was alone he cursed that he took it).
I now understand why he said: Sunday classes were his biggest mistake. He collected completely unfit people for practice. He wanted to insert bones into a jellyfish. But he received betrayers and slanderers in return. First, you ate him with your egomania, then you achieved fame and money at the expense of his name - wrote books, sold videos and photos, etc. And you Dan are the same. 20 years ago you sang in unison with slanderers, today you tell stories about "magic". But as a person, you have not changed. As you lived with all that shit, you still live. And if nothing has changed in you, then your "magic" is nothing.
Judas repented and hanged himself, he had the strength to admit the truth. What about you?
* yes, I do not speak for 100% of people from Sunday classes, but for 90% for sure.
You're just stacking up the stuff for people to read, to see what shit Carlos had to deal with.
I can see why he came up with the idea of the fliers mind. Because if you try to help people escape, not only do normal people fight back, and try to stop it, but a whole industry of me-too sorcerer 'teachers" springs up, to try to get their share.
And everything they teach is designed to stop people from learning.
I'm just suprised to see that the same thing is happening to me, when I try to teach.
There's a lot of mental illness in the Castaneda fan crowd.
And a lot of men who's self-image depends on controlling other people.
I supposed I should prepare for Ken, Miguel, Armando, Victor, and the rest to decide to focus on this subreddit too.
Carlos was under constant attack, and would tell us about it in private classes.
He even had some former pampered students begin to attack, as we see with John.
But that attack wasn't, "me-too". It was an attempt to "debunk" him.
By the way, they're callled, "The MAGICAL passes."
I suppose you don't like that word, because you can't do what 8 others in here can do.
Produce visible magic.
That is why they are attracted by "magic". And that is why magic was considered a dead end in don Juan's tradition.
But do as you know, this is your life. I have my own :)
You underestimate Carlos. I don;t think he invented things in his books so easy just to make people learn or do smth he wanted to.. It was not only my own experience when i've felt flier;s mind so strong. I've communicated with other people and some of them told pretty much the same thing. Even Cleargreen facilitator Dergay has told me he felt it many times.. I don't think our mind is ours and if you analyse it through the Active side of Infinity you would feel that Carlos didn't invent stuff at all..
Nowhere does it say that our mind is not ours. Do you remember what about the episode of Book 10 is explained in Book 5? :))) Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/i5b41s/how_the_5th_book_explains_the_10th/
The mind of a predator is the mind of a dinosaur. Tony Karam said the same in 1992: "Don Juan said that we still see the world as the dinosaurs saw it, and the great feat of the sorcerer is to smash that dinosaur egg."
Could be!
But if he made it up as a "Metaphor" as he told Amy, it was a good one!
As soon as you try to teach sorcery in public, the rabid squirrels come out, looking for nuts.
However, I have to remind you.
All you have to do to overcome the fliers, is become "impeccable" in your behavior.
Or better said, learn to be silent. You can't possibly be impeccable if you aren't silent.
So if they exist, it's more of a curiosity.
I wish you guys could see Carlos demonstrating how they lick your feet.
Maybe one day, in re-run mode?
But you can get a feel for how he demonstrated it, by giving your dog a teaspoon full of peanut butter.
Then guide their head down by your feet and watch the show!
When we find out if they exist for sure, I say we travel to their world and kick their butts!
We might be the first in history to gain the energetic mass to do a thing like that.
With the internet, we could end up with tens of thousands capable of finding their world and going there.
There's no time in the past when that was possible.
Sounds like a nice challenge to me.)
I'd love to see Cholita lead the fleet!
She probably wouldn't care who's butt we were going to kick.
In fact, they were called sorcery passes (see Taisha's book), and before that shamanic movements "for seeing the fiber of the world" (Castaneda showed them in 1971-72 at a seminar), and before that these passes were called movements power of or ethnically dances of power (spirit). Magical Passes is a catchy name for a brand to sell better for a westerner.
You have absolutely no interest in sorcery.
Why not go somewhere else to bother people and get attention?
Sell your mental masturbation trips to people who don't know any better.
Everyone in here does know better.
And it's very obvious you just want to be known as a "sorcerer."
That's all you want.
The title.
And you're willing to deceive people to get it!
People like you come through here every 2 or 3 weeks.
They fall into categories.
You're the "I'm a good guy, I only want to help people learn." type.
Those always explode when you point out their mistakes. They start cursing everything in sight, and it becomes obvious they have a violent nature and are driven by anger.
You aren't going to find any nuts in here, Mr. Squirrel.
You'll probably spoil your reputation bigtime, and not be able to complete your book deal, which you deny having in mind.
By the way, that article you wrote on restoring Carlos' reputation was great. Add that to some of Spanish language material documenting people who witnessed don Juan, and Carlos being down in mexico all the time, and you'd actually have a decent book there.
But don't add in your masturbations. Keep that to yourself, and try to do it only at night, when self-pity overcomes you.
I don't want to scare anyone off from giving their own advice on how to learn sorcery.
But this poster did not give any.
His advice was always that you're mistaken in what you are doing, and need to change to his ideas, which are 100% intellectual and 0% practical.
I was warned by multiple people about him before I even knew what he'd post. They said it's always the same.
I'm afraid, I have to call that sort of thing out. It causes people to put off actually learning sorcery.
I'm telling them to work so hard, they nearly faint.
He's telling them to suck their thumb.
Some people will try that for a few years, and then it'll be too late for them.
The older you get, the worse it is.
And it's so difficult to convince people to put in the work. Can't afford people trying to confuse others.
The less a person recapitulates and does stalking of his own ego and habits the harder is to persuade him pointing out his mistakes. Its obvious that besides the theoretical job this dude does nothing. But Don Juan told that warrior lives by action not by words or thoughts about action..
It's worse than that.
He's trying to redefine sorcery as not having any magic.
Did he even read the books? It's all magic, all the time!
That's what hooks people.
And it's what's taken down the reputation of Castaneda. The lack of actual magic in the Castaneda community.
Carlos has become a laughing stock in the lucid dreaming, shamanism, and meditation forums.
Where we used to find his biggest supporters.
But Mikhail doesn't care if it goes down the toilet, because he plans to replace Carlos.
With his fabulous book and super wonderful understanding of "sorcery".
He comes in here, sees an actual student of Carlos trying to help people, realizes people are doing real magic, tries to claim it's imaginary, ignores that it all comes from internal silence alone, precisely the thing don Juan said turns you into a sorcerer, then realizes there are multiple people enjoying real magic for the first time.
So he comes up with the idea that sorcery has no magic.
Hear that? You are all mistaken.
You're doing, "False Sorcery."
Did everyone get that? Mikhail's sorcery has no magic.
And that's the way he likes it.
It's just some form of mental masturbation. A term Carlos used often to describe his behavior.
For him, sorcery is like puffing yourself up, like a blowfish.
You make your head look huge, so the other fish your run into are impressed and fearful.
He's a blowfish sorcerer!
But once in a while his head explodes, as you can see here if he didn't delete his comments.
I can imagine that he would visit Carlos classes and would point out discrepancy between smth in his books and lectures and how properly it must be written to be then tossed out from the class right afterwards))
People like him are so blind and suffocated by their ego that reading Carlos's books does not open their eyes, they are blind and duff and continue their wrong path despite anything happens around- even if DJ himself would appear and tell him in his face: You are dumb ass, go do smth besides mental masturbation- i doubt it would help.
Another nonsense and speculative fantasies. I know what it means to learn from the teacher. And when I was studying I was one of the best students, because I did ordered without my own opinion. Could you do that? Hardly.
One who cannot be a student cannot be a teacher. Sunday classes showed - there were no students, there were parasites.
“But you don’t consider yourself a sorcerer, don Juan, do you?” I asked.
“No, I don’t,” he said. "I am a warrior who sees. In fact, all of us are los nuevos videntes. The new seers. The old seers were the sorcerers." For the average man, "he continued," sorcery is a negative business, but it is fascinating all the same. That's why I encouraged you, in your normal awareness, to think of us as sorcerers. It's advisable to do so. It serves to attract interest. But for us to be sorcerers would be like entering a deadend street. "
- The Fire From Within
Yes, it's the "mastery of intent".
We've been over that. We aren't playing word games in here, because there's real magic you can experience.
People want to put their efforts into understanding that. The old days of inspirational quotes and word games are over.
That's what real magic teaches you. The mastery of intent.
There's no other way to learn it!
I suppose you can see your book deal going up in smoke.
And you won't just leave here to go look for nuts elsewhere. That won't help you anymore.
The magic in here is going to spread, and ruin all chances you have for a book deal.
It won't matter who you hassle or chat with.
It will be common knowledge that Carlos' technology works in a spectacular manner, and those who can't make it do that never put in the effort to learn.
And worse, the people who insist on their magic free interpretations will look like villains.
Put out a book like you have planned, and your reputation will be destroyed.
I guess you can be just another Miguel, or Armando, or Victor, or any other number of people who take money under false premises, and damage anyone who falls for their "teachings".
If you stopped commenting in here, and put that time into dark room gazing, you'd be further along than you've progressed in all the time you became interested.
All you have to do is get out of bed, and go to work for a change.
But you keep pulling up the covers, and shouting at the person trying to wake you up.
Yes, we went through that 12 years ago. But you still in this. I give objective data, in response - you get hysterical and nonsense about me. Is this rotten "magic" from Sunday classes? You're in the same shit as you were 20 years ago. Do not pretend to be innocent, you are one of those who killed Carlos with your egomania. Therefore, do not make yourself a righteous man.
Are you blind or deaf? Why are you like a record saying the same thing and the same nonsense? I work in IT, after which I work as an editor for free, etc. Come to us in a country where there is a war and wages are 300 dollars in the national average. Come, it's not for you in LA on the beach to rinse your ass in the ocean :)))
The funny thing is that you deny what don Juan says and do in your opinion. But at the same time, you believe that only you are following the correct intention. This is a contradiction.
And yes, Dan I finished communicating with you. You act like a fanatic, like a guru who collects a cult. Except for nonsense addressed to me from you, I do not hear. So go do your "magic", but don't talk to me, ok? Do you have the strength to curb your egomania?
What the hell are you talking about all the time? Do you understand that you are talking about your own fantasy? What "magic" can you talk about if you are not able to understand elementary things? You believe in a lie (which you probably invented yourself), but at the same time you teach me how to live. Solve your problems with unbridled imagination and speeches stuck like a record about things that do not exist, and then give advice.
Especially for you I say this. Wake up already in the real world. You are not Carlos, you fucked up the real "magic" 20 years ago. You are not a new nagual and you are not creating a new tradition. Take it easy. Exhale. Go to the mirror and open your eyes. Yes, this is you. This is a story about you. And not about me or anyone else.
Good luck! Nice to see you...
Obviously, this is easy to verify. Can you answer my questions without theory from your own experience? Let's check?
What happens when you eliminate lucid dreaming content? This is a simple question. I am waiting for a answer from your personal practice.
Do you know how many theorists who posed as practitioners I saw? Lots of. Now you will join this "legion" :)))
???!!! Are you not worried that you contradict yourself?
I say: I don't care about "magic". You write that I want to be a "sorcerer". Do you read what write to you or are you just listening to yourself?
Distinguish fantasy from reality. Here's what.
And pay attention to the written - not "people", but "we will be mistaken ".
We are not mad at you. But what kind of information is that? Where did you get it?
On the contrary, if someone sees a fog or something like glass, I would tell them to keep looking at it! it is very likely that this is the second attention!
And regarding the fog of astral travel ... anyone who has done several will tell you that you cannot establish a constant to say that it is real or not.
They are very changeable. A fog to define if it is energy or not? you have to learn to "see" for that. Or at least if it is so fucking real, you can say the dream has energy.
The Intent is very sensitive, which is why we cannot afford to hear bad advice. We need the best advice, to put it into practice and progress quickly.
From my practice, knowledge and experience. And this is not only my unique experience, but also the experience of other people who were able to achieve results with me (and also from those from whom I studied). I have said many times that everything I write - working (and this can be understood even without terms like "sorcery", etc.). The bad thing is that I do not speak English enough to give details of the subtlety of methods and states (so why Dan's claims are ridiculous).
In those tips I don't see useful information on how to move the assemblage point. It even says: "tips on how to keep the assemblage point fixed!".
Is that your knowledge? Say that if you see something unusual between your fingers, it is a "persistent psychophysical phenomena"?
I would say: do you see anything unusual? dive headfirst into it! Anything unusual can move the assemblage point.
If you have really worked and obtained results you should know it.
Yes I have the same problem with the language. My native language is spanish. But for me: if it is extremly detailed, it doesnt work.
After all, the techniques are for "summoning the Intent". There are no procedures actually.
In fact, you can move the assemblage point without talking about the "assemblage point", but you can constantly talk about it, but not be able to move.
I showed you where you can get stuck. Can you distinguish fantasies from actual processes? Or for you there is no difference between imagination and reality?
To make a shift in consciousness further, where there will be a "spider web in the air", etc. these and other barriers must be overcome.
In truth, I can methodically tell a lot of info, but... as I see it, few people need it :)))
>I showed you where you can get stuck. Can you distinguish fantasies from actual processes? Or for you there is no difference between imagination and reality?
"fantasies"? You didn't talk about fantasies. You said to see something unusual between your fingers. If you see it with your own eyes, it is not a fantasy. We are talking about the second attention. The only thing you showed is how to ignore the second attention, classifying it as fantasy. That I would call unlearning. It is exactly the same thing that a mother says to her baby, so that he ignores the magic around him.
> To make a shift in consciousness further, where there will be a "spider web in the air", etc. these and other barriers must be overcome.
If you see a spider web you are doing very well. It means that your assemblage point moved. It means that you are on the right track. Keep playing with them, and it will keep moving, until you can see other things. It is not a barrier.
> In truth, I can methodically tell you a lot of what Dan is telling you, but in different terms. Probably, he doesn't like it, that's why he is so jealous :)))
That is your problem. Do you think it is a matter of ego? It is not. Do you think Dan criticizes you because you know as much as he does?
I do not think so. Dan reproaches you because you are giving terrible advices. Dan's job here is to teach us how to connect with the Intent.
And for advice like yours, people can lose the progress that cost them so much work. That is why every time you say something stupid he will have to appear and highlight it.
So that people like me, who are really trying to learn, don't lose our way. You are hurting people who really want to learn.
Barriers are the 2 points that I wrote in the topic. These are exactly the traps which may be mistaken for "heightened awareness".
If my advice someone taken out of fantasies - not my problem. I'm interested in reality, not fantasy-style imagination. Yes, people don't like to lose their illusions.
My advice is methodically argued and tested. They can be understood and repeated. I can teach people to see flickering air in 20 minutes, because this is a physiological effect (noise of visual modality). Look at the air as a flat layer, fix it and wait. Appeared? Congratulations, but this is not a vision of energy or intent or whatever.
Terrible advice is when people imagine they are doing something real. This is not the case for Dan's idea for the most part, but there are many questions and comments. I'm talking about principle. That is why Castaneda's books are a methodology, not a collection of beautiful words about beautiful fantasies. Therefore, Castaneda created Tensegrity as a key that opens the knowledge inherent in books.
Does your ego tells you are the only genius person here, when all the rest of users keep telling you might be wrong?) any super tiny chance that one day you would stop pretending being a nagualist and ask yourself why in the world I try to prove evryone around that I am always right? Could I be always right? May be I should stop writing comments on how good I know Carlos's life details and point out to others how bad they know everything about Carlos and nagualism? Maybe you would get a cubic cm of chance to understand that all that you have been doing was raising your ego and wasting time on useless collection of data that only spoils you by giving you a sense of being the only one impeccable warrior who knows the truth?
Do you know what I had seen? For you, nagualism is gossip about someone. You are not capable of anything other than that. It is an infection of Sunday classes, a virus that has infiltrated nagualism.
If you are studying and practicing something you should know everything about it. How can you practice what you don't understand it? No way. This is fantasy.
As for my ego, leave it alone - it is doing well. Better answer the practice question I asked. No answer? Then be quiet.