Has anyone tried one of these? I have read people having Profound experiences in these. I'm interested to know if these would be good for fast silence and Assembly point movement! Or then you pass out and drown, who knows?
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u/yepyougotit
2 points2020-09-08 15:18
I’ve been wondering about this myself. Dan’s darkroom practice suggestion seems like it would pair well with the tank. Curious to see his thoughts.
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u/Valtzu_92
2 points2020-09-08 14:40
Damn I linked the wrong part, he tests them in the next Part:
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u/danl999
11 points2020-09-08 15:55
Dark room practice is 3 hours a day, for weeks, before it gets crazy (amazing) in there.
I suspect you'd have to own one of these tanks, to make it work well.
But there's no reason it wouldn't!
And I also suspect, once you were walking through passageways to other worlds you won't think the tank is much help. You'd be banned from that activity in the tank.
The desire to use the tank indicates a need for some personal "proof".
Just go get it! Use what you have!
But once you do, you'll realize it's a very long road, not a destination.
It's rewarding at every stage though, except maybe the first few days of gazing in darkness where you don't believe you have found anything.
After that, it's wonderful as long as you have time.
Last night for example, I was again super tired and in pain. It's still quite hot in California.
Heat is what knocked me out of heightened awareness when I fell into it for 2 weeks in South East Asia.
I fought the tiredness and tried the Tensegrity movement Juan was showing us.
I was trying to get "Fancy" to show up, and form that "sliding dreaming" ring for me, so I could see what she was trying to teach me.
I've discovered that IOBs love to make power objects! They aren't doing us a favor to make those super cool objects. They're doing themselves a favor, because you end up wearing what is essentially them.
I suppose that's why don Juan had that gourd on his belt.
After the swirly hands movement, I realized that one of the magical passes, where you form a ball of light on the floor and cause it to travel into space, was UNIQUE and precious!
Carlos was exercising our awareness for us!
I tried forming a very vivid glowing purple ball between my feet, and "gazing' it up into infinity.
As I watched it travel too far away to see, Fancy showed up.
Turns out, her "sliding dreaming" (as she spoke it) isn't quite what I thought. I suspect it's another trick on her part, to try go gain more control over me.
She opened up a passage to an alternate "me". I can't explain it at all, because the thought process of this other me was completely alien.
The best way to describe it would be to say, there was a flurry of yellow swirls floating about my head to the right, and Fancy taught me to "turn my head" into it, where Chaos rules. You can still think there, but it's amidst the swirl of chaotic streams of energy which prevent forming any "normal" thoughts of greed and self-pity.
You can't be petty amidst chaos.
After trying to go back and forth, because I realized you could think like that all the time, I found myself in a solid white living room.
Everything was white. But otherwise it had carpet, and furniture.
Odd furniture. I suppose you could call it Beverly Hills sheek. And not all that comfortable. Flat couches you can't really lie back in. That sort of "Zen" thing.
I walked through the living room towards the back wall, and there was Carlos himself sitting on a weird white bench.
It was him!
No doubt about it. At least, as far as the visual aspect goes.
Naturally there's no way to tell, and anyone who insists they saw him ought to do a better job of explaining why they believe that. And how often they get visitors.
They're probably lonely for any visitors at all, and jumping to conclusions.
Once you have many visitors constantly, you become a little more discerning.
But, at the time I was sure it was him. And being fully awake with my eyes open, I knew it certainly wasn't a dreaming phantom.
I told him I'd found something really strange!
He replied, "What did you do with it?"
Later, after I started off for work, I began to wonder why he hadn't said the logical thing.
"What are you going to do with it?"
It made me a little more confident, that "being" had awareness. Because if the question came from me, it would assume I could get that thing back.
But the honest truth is, most things are found one time only. It's just too difficult to find your way back.
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u/wifigunslinger
1 points2020-09-08 17:06
Yes and I tried practicing inner silence and re capitulation in it but it got cold after like 20 minutes and destroyed the experience.
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u/Valtzu_92
1 points2020-09-09 06:08
Cool, you only tried once? There are none where I live afaik but it is something I would want to try one day.
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u/wifigunslinger
1 points2020-09-09 06:26
I actually did it 3-4 times and not for a few years now but each time I got really cold and each time I complained.
The experience is ‘cool’ but unless you own your own tank and can control the settings forget about it being a spiritual experience.
Oh should have done some searching before posting, gonna read through your links ä! Thanks
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2020-09-09 11:48
It just reinforces the knowledge, keeping things fresh. All good.
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u/semlem
1 points2020-09-08 21:31
bath tubs works very nicely too, i managed to see light golden tentacles coming out of my belly while gazing in there (wasn't even completely dark i had a candle) i tried to move them but they were floppy didn't manage to move them even one inch, then i think the voice of seeing started to tell me what was their use, but i was too far into the second attention to make sense of it, it was something about sending the tentacles out to recognize stuff, and how a bad position of the tentacles produced bad habits in people
anyway i might buy a deprivation tank too, they seem fun
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u/semlem
1 points2020-09-08 21:49
also the voice of seeing kept referring to the tentacles as " 3 messengers" im not sure why but back then it seemed obvious, lol
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u/sgt_brutal
1 points2020-09-09 22:35
I think a psychomanteum (look it up guys), or simply a frame around a black surface, suits our style better.
Spending time in a small cabin, tent or curtailed space is helpful on its own. It condenses the energy body.
By putting pressure on your perceptual space, it redeploys awareness from distant layers to here and now. A sort of automatic recapitulation. I guess Carlos would say that it brings the double closer.
The mirror then opens up this condensed perceptual space. To help the second awareness intrude, hold the frame with the part of your dense energy body that is associated with the solar plexus area.
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Has anyone tried one of these? I have read people having Profound experiences in these. I'm interested to know if these would be good for fast silence and Assembly point movement! Or then you pass out and drown, who knows?
I’ve been wondering about this myself. Dan’s darkroom practice suggestion seems like it would pair well with the tank. Curious to see his thoughts.
Damn I linked the wrong part, he tests them in the next Part:
Dark room practice is 3 hours a day, for weeks, before it gets crazy (amazing) in there.
I suspect you'd have to own one of these tanks, to make it work well.
But there's no reason it wouldn't!
And I also suspect, once you were walking through passageways to other worlds you won't think the tank is much help. You'd be banned from that activity in the tank.
The desire to use the tank indicates a need for some personal "proof".
Just go get it! Use what you have!
But once you do, you'll realize it's a very long road, not a destination.
It's rewarding at every stage though, except maybe the first few days of gazing in darkness where you don't believe you have found anything.
After that, it's wonderful as long as you have time.
Last night for example, I was again super tired and in pain. It's still quite hot in California.
Heat is what knocked me out of heightened awareness when I fell into it for 2 weeks in South East Asia.
I fought the tiredness and tried the Tensegrity movement Juan was showing us.
I was trying to get "Fancy" to show up, and form that "sliding dreaming" ring for me, so I could see what she was trying to teach me.
I've discovered that IOBs love to make power objects! They aren't doing us a favor to make those super cool objects. They're doing themselves a favor, because you end up wearing what is essentially them.
I suppose that's why don Juan had that gourd on his belt.
After the swirly hands movement, I realized that one of the magical passes, where you form a ball of light on the floor and cause it to travel into space, was UNIQUE and precious!
Carlos was exercising our awareness for us!
I tried forming a very vivid glowing purple ball between my feet, and "gazing' it up into infinity.
As I watched it travel too far away to see, Fancy showed up.
Turns out, her "sliding dreaming" (as she spoke it) isn't quite what I thought. I suspect it's another trick on her part, to try go gain more control over me.
She opened up a passage to an alternate "me". I can't explain it at all, because the thought process of this other me was completely alien.
The best way to describe it would be to say, there was a flurry of yellow swirls floating about my head to the right, and Fancy taught me to "turn my head" into it, where Chaos rules. You can still think there, but it's amidst the swirl of chaotic streams of energy which prevent forming any "normal" thoughts of greed and self-pity.
You can't be petty amidst chaos.
After trying to go back and forth, because I realized you could think like that all the time, I found myself in a solid white living room.
Everything was white. But otherwise it had carpet, and furniture.
Odd furniture. I suppose you could call it Beverly Hills sheek. And not all that comfortable. Flat couches you can't really lie back in. That sort of "Zen" thing.
I walked through the living room towards the back wall, and there was Carlos himself sitting on a weird white bench.
It was him!
No doubt about it. At least, as far as the visual aspect goes.
Naturally there's no way to tell, and anyone who insists they saw him ought to do a better job of explaining why they believe that. And how often they get visitors.
They're probably lonely for any visitors at all, and jumping to conclusions.
Once you have many visitors constantly, you become a little more discerning.
But, at the time I was sure it was him. And being fully awake with my eyes open, I knew it certainly wasn't a dreaming phantom.
I told him I'd found something really strange!
He replied, "What did you do with it?"
Later, after I started off for work, I began to wonder why he hadn't said the logical thing.
"What are you going to do with it?"
It made me a little more confident, that "being" had awareness. Because if the question came from me, it would assume I could get that thing back.
But the honest truth is, most things are found one time only. It's just too difficult to find your way back.
Yes and I tried practicing inner silence and re capitulation in it but it got cold after like 20 minutes and destroyed the experience.
Cool, you only tried once? There are none where I live afaik but it is something I would want to try one day.
I actually did it 3-4 times and not for a few years now but each time I got really cold and each time I complained.
The experience is ‘cool’ but unless you own your own tank and can control the settings forget about it being a spiritual experience.
Earlier discussions on this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/f4tybq/deprivation_tanks_and_sensory_deprivation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/cm1zxx/practising_in_darkness_the_kogi_tribe_in_colombia/
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/bisxxg/methods_of_significantly_shifting_perception/
Oh should have done some searching before posting, gonna read through your links ä! Thanks
It just reinforces the knowledge, keeping things fresh. All good.
bath tubs works very nicely too, i managed to see light golden tentacles coming out of my belly while gazing in there (wasn't even completely dark i had a candle) i tried to move them but they were floppy didn't manage to move them even one inch, then i think the voice of seeing started to tell me what was their use, but i was too far into the second attention to make sense of it, it was something about sending the tentacles out to recognize stuff, and how a bad position of the tentacles produced bad habits in people
anyway i might buy a deprivation tank too, they seem fun
also the voice of seeing kept referring to the tentacles as " 3 messengers" im not sure why but back then it seemed obvious, lol
I think a psychomanteum (look it up guys), or simply a frame around a black surface, suits our style better.
Spending time in a small cabin, tent or curtailed space is helpful on its own. It condenses the energy body.
By putting pressure on your perceptual space, it redeploys awareness from distant layers to here and now. A sort of automatic recapitulation. I guess Carlos would say that it brings the double closer.
The mirror then opens up this condensed perceptual space. To help the second awareness intrude, hold the frame with the part of your dense energy body that is associated with the solar plexus area.