I am going to read all of Carlos' books in order. I have no idea what I am getting into but I'll try to stay open minded

I have no prior experience in magick or otherwise. I have only slightly delved into things like this before. Please help me through if I am confused or flustered through this journey as it probably will be very difficult for me. Wish me luck

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 4 points 2020-09-14 14:12

If you think it will be difficult, then it likely will be. Self-fullfilling prophecies and whatnot.

Let the books work as intended.

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u/Anonomous87 1 points 2020-09-14 14:14

Sure thing. I only am assuming it may be difficult but I am kinda whatever about thinking that

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u/tucker_frump 3 points 2020-09-14 15:23

Don't try to be Carlos, or Don Juan for that matter. Take from the tales what you need for your own path of heart, and draw from the rest, the rest of your life.

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u/danl999 8 points 2020-09-14 15:18

Remember that the books are only a "hook". Carlos even told us that in classes.

He said, "I hooked you. You're hooked. So stop reading them."

But that only applied to the people in private classes, most of whom had read all of the books multiple times.

5 times each was not uncommon.

Why? They got an endorphin rush reading them, and fantasizing about how great of a sorcerer they'd be one day.

But they never put any work into it. Just the easy to do stuff, like pretending to be impeccable, pretending to erase personal history, pretending to be doing stalking.

After reading all of his books too many times, and after years of pretending, they went for other books, written by outright frauds.

In reading those books, they added bad information to their minds, making it even more difficult to ever learn.

So read them, but then work hard. That's the only way you get to see real magic.

Don't read stuff by other people. Even Carlos stopped reading. Anything he wanted to know, he could read on "the wall".

And don't build up the idea in your mind that you're going to learn, and then, "reveal yourself" to the world, as the bad ass teacher of Castaneda.

There are hundreds of those mentally ill people out there, cheating and deceiving whoever is dumb enough to go to their web sites.

If I'm sounding like a downer, it's just the honest situation right now, in the Castaneda world.

We've helped a little in this subreddit, but still not enough to drown out the phony sorcery teachers.

And I should add, in fact you do need to read all of the books.

When crazy, impossible stuff starts happening, those books will make sure you have at least a tiny understanding of what's going on.

I ran into at least 2 mysteries last night alone. Amazing things I had never seen before, but with the books I had an idea what was going on.

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u/Anonomous87 2 points 2020-09-14 16:18

Alright I'll try to be careful. You have to put in several hours of work into it each day correct? I remember reading something here about that

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2020-09-14 16:33

Imagine you are learning a new sport. At first you have to train hard to get it. But then... training? It is just having fun! Sometimes I cant wait for practice time, so I practice during the day too.

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u/danl999 5 points 2020-09-14 16:39

Yea, that's the problem.

JD had an experiment going with some friends.

They all vowed to do several hours each day.

Some just couldn't find the time. Family life perhaps.

But the rewards are amazing.

There's no Harry Potter movie with special effects like I get to see nightly.

Last night I traveled to 3 alternate worlds. For real.

I saw little mechanical collections of lights floating above me. If I gazed into them, they activated dreams onto my bed. The dreams literally "slid down", from those little glowing bundles of energy.

I was fully inside a dream, while awake. And, the dreaming characters were able to notice me and react.

Not lucid dreaming. But also not fully waking dreaming.

I supposed, my dreaming double was transported into there, but still connected to me by something in consciousness. So I could be in my physical body, experiencing that dreaming double, like it was a robot I could control.

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u/erotyk 1 points 2020-09-15 19:06

what you mean by the wall ? do you mean the akashic records ?

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u/danl999 3 points 2020-09-15 19:14

I suppose you could say that.

But the point is, the eyes are capable of perceiving "energy on a horizon".

What that means in the dark room is, you first see puffs of color, and use those to perfect your internal silence.

When your internal dialogue is nearly all gone, you'll begin to perceive lines of whitish light on flat surfaces.

It's amazing! You can literally see the room in absolute darkness.

Probably not well enough to walk around safely at first, but you can surely see things.

If you gaze at a flat surface, and continue in silence, the energy you are seeing, which is those vague lines at first, starts to take on details.

A whole world can form.

However, it can also tap into the "Akashic record", and display text, images, answers.

I have a little problem saying it's the same as the Akashic record, because I don't know, nor have I read anything written by, someone who can actually access the Akashic record.

Not reliably at least, and not with an explanation as to how others can learn that.

It's usually an angry male who wants to be a yogi telling you he's done that.

But no open discussion of how.

And since no one has mentioned the whitish lines, I suspect they can't. Or at least, not on demand.

It's always just old stuff being resold by someone with no actual ability. And some accidental weird visions during meditation.

At least, anywhere I've seen.

In here, you get to do it, not talk about it.

The price is, hard work.

And in the beginning, you'll also have to take a leap of faith and trust that the hard work will in fact produce results.

Except now, we have others testifying that.

So the risk is very small. Just the lost time.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2020-09-15 20:02

It's always just old stuff being resold by someone with no actual ability...

...In here, you get to do it, not talk about it.

Back in the day I almost gave up the last of my hope because that's all that I'd ever found before reading Castaneda.

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u/princejask 1 points 2020-09-14 15:53

Mr. Danl199. I just now got that you were a participate in Carlos's classes? Am I correct?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2020-09-14 16:14

You got his username wrong (u/danl999), and didn't reply to his actual comment...so he won't see your question.

He should now.

But to save time; yes, he was in private classes.

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u/princejask 1 points 2020-09-14 18:22

Thank you

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u/wifigunslinger 1 points 2020-09-14 18:07

Carlos’ notes were written with his finger not with a pen, don’t let him fool you.

Carlos’ books may have been a hook to gain your attention but don’t let that element bypass you, hooking your attention is an act of sorcery.

Carlos’ books are nothing short of an act of power and have within the words the ability to silence your internal dialogue and designed by Don Juan to move your assemblage point.

This is why they are addictive, the web they spin.

I would guess Carlos didn’t want his public and private lecture classes to further read them because he realized that the entirely of his clarity was focused within them.

They were all written within the second attention and are everything you need to follow Carlos or to carve your own path which is the real intention.

Anything further Carlos revealed was merely his personal power and not the Naguals. UnLESS you consider Carlos the Nagual which I do not.

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u/Anonomous87 1 points 2020-09-14 18:57

I am not sure what you mean exactly but I am sure I will understand eventually.

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u/wifigunslinger 1 points 2020-09-15 07:43

Perhaps, best of luck.

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u/BuddhaBliss 1 points 2020-09-14 20:17

May I suggest you start with Journey to Ixtlan and then the rest in order. I suggest to start with that book so you may get a clearer view on the power plants.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2020-11-25 11:19

The latest consensus among some is to read Taisha Abelar's books first, along with the Silent Knowledge PDF. Practice a bit. Then read the last four books of Castaneda's before circling back to the earlier ones, and then finishing with Florinda Donner's books, her last two being the focus.

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u/Anonomous87 1 points 2020-11-25 19:01

Ok. Thanks for the updated info!

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u/Anonomous87 1 points 2020-11-25 19:12

Do I need to read the Taisha books in order?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2020-11-25 19:28

Well, she only has the one official book "The Sorcerer's Crossing" and it makes more sense if you read it before the newly found Manuscript as the events take place a year or so afterward.