Everywhere I looked I was surrounded by it. Ignore the repeated faces; I didn't have the time to edit all of them different!
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u/Juann2323
2 points2020-09-21 21:32
Today a new friend here asked what do we stare at while doing darkroom practice... just darkness?
Thats because you didnt wear the "assamblage point shift sunglasses"!!
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2020-09-22 02:27
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"Looks like "chunky style" Crystalline dreaming fog to me.
Wait until you get "chunky style feeling fog"!
Fancy has introduced me to that stuff.
It contains all the darkest episodes from your childhood, which you were forced to abandon because no one was talking about it.
The most notable are from rightward shifts of the assemblage point.
There's a reason the old sorcerers like to shift right.
Children enjoy the same reason.
Power.
I suppose you could say it contains the unspoiled intuition of a child.
But whatever it is, darkroom gazing is a pandora's box, and we have no idea all the things you can do in there.
Last night, after I switched to viewing dark energy on the horizon, all the colors changed.
The whitish light I could see on the walls and bed never returned to white!
It was purple now.
Which is confusing. I was thinking you (Juann) would eventually clear out your purple stuff, and have an empty room with whitish light on the walls.
So you can do "clean" experiments.
You've gone too far Juann! I'm trying to show you a path in the forest, and you keep finding side paths I didn't know about.
It seems that it's all a mess in the second attention.
We have at least a few "crazy" people in this subreddit. We all know who they are...
So far, their madness has kept them from learning real magic.
But that's because no one else was learning it!
Just wait until they get serious!
They'll give Cholita a run for her money.
My conclusion:
Don Juan and his party were "stalking positions of the assemblage point", for Carlos.
Which gave us the wrong impression about things.
We have the impression there's only one path in the forest.
And that misunderstanding has led to some really annoying moments for Carlos. And for Carol.
Carlos would be explaining something wonderful, and a hot-shot inventory expert in private classes would interrupt him:
"Wait! On page 24 of the third book you said that was orange! Now you say it's blue???"
(Implication: You're tricking us, we don't trust you.)"
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u/Juann2323
1 points2020-09-22 03:16
Oh yes, thanks! I changed something in the pic.
I didnt see the comment!
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u/Juann2323
2 points2020-09-22 03:46
You've gone too far Juann! I'm trying to show you a path in the forest, and you keep finding side paths I didn't know about.
I am really enjoying it! Keep on that path and I will be doing a zig zag around it. Thats me having a walk in nature.
But that's because no one else was learning it!
Just wait until they get serious!
I completly realized about that. I believe I am progressing so fast because I just catched your Intent of making this work (maybe Carlos one too).
I have not any interest but learning sorcery, so I am fully empty, ready to do what this Intent says.
We have the impression there's only one path in the forest.
Thats amazing.
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u/danl999
4 points2020-09-22 16:08
I believe La Gorda was right when she said, no one has enough energy to do dreaming everyday. So they did other things to charge up, like sunlight glitter.
It applies to waking dreaming too. So when you have fantastic results, but then the next day it's not very good, that could be one cause.
You can also get into a social fuss, and that can make it harder to get silent.
Or, finally, you can deviate down a side path.
I'm not talking about Juann's side path. That's just seeing.
It's messy, and there's too much to see.
But it is possible along the way, on the J curve, to notice something and play with it.
And shift your assemblage point right or left.
Fancy has taught me, you can shift horizontally the same way you move along the J curve.
Watch something coming from the second attention.
So at any point on that J curve, where you are seeing things in front of you, at least one of them can likely shift you horizontally.
I like my "big park" analogy.
We're following geese down a cement path, because we want to get to the large pond we kept hearing about, where everything is super beautiful.
Most of the geese (puffs of colored light) are headed that way.
If we keep following them in general, we'll reach the pond.
However, if you look at the bushes to the side, which are easy to see because of their rough texture, compared to the smooth path, you might find a stray cat.
Just a little black cat hiding under a bush.
You turn your head in his direction and start waking cautiously.
You just shifted horizontally!
The bushes are creepy. There's even skunks in there.
But it feels sort of pleasant.
The next day you start down the same path, the J curve path to the heightened awareness pond.
But when you pass the bushes with the cat, you can't help but linger there a bit, waiting to see if the cat comes back.
That will feel like an "off day".
But in fact, you're integrating results that day.
Fancy taught me that too. She teaches a day or two, then leaves me alone to integrate it.
If I do a good job of that, she shows up when I lay to sleep.
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u/Juann2323
3 points2020-09-22 16:24
Yes, a few days ago I was thinking about that.
Even though I do the practice almost every day, some nights I am not determined to do it. Not because of my internal dialogue; there are simply days that something in me doesnt want to go so deep.
Yes, it can be as you say, we are integrating things.
But I was wondering, should I try to move my AP as much as I can this days too?
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u/danl999
3 points2020-09-22 16:35
You don't want to hear that answer.
Have you noticed the possibility of shifting to the right?
I'd like to say "left", but I haven't found any way to do that (short of swimming in the crystalline dreaming fog).
Last night Fancy pointed out an object I could focus on, to shift right.
I was struggling to use her left eye/right eye old sorcerer's technique.
I wanted to make a magical goblet pop out of the wall again!
But all I got was a few sparks of light. They twisted around as I switched eyes, and finally Fancy emerged.
It was her, hiding in the wall.
She glanced far to the right of her, on the west wall.
There was a shelf, with a black bottle sitting on it.
I realized if I focused on that, I'd shift right at my current J curve depth.
Fancy put an idea in my mind. If you look around in darkroom gazing, you can always find a black bottle (an object which can shift you right).
There's some humor in that bottle.
It's almost like she was saying, "Drink that bottle!"
(alice in wonderland)
Keep in mind. We have to DO SOMETHING. We can't only not-do.
We know all sorts of doings. And they're irrelevant. The precise doings we find in the dark room are meaningless.
Doings are finished intent. It's formed already.
And it's easy to color your doings. Such as by reading that wonderful story about the second attention.
It leaves a mark.
We have to have our "doings", or we can't exist there in the dark room.
I suppose someone who was not completely sane might do better in the dark room. They wouldn't be as possessive of their doings, and wouldn't filter out all other possibilities.
But they'll never seriously try it. Insanity seems to come with an obsession about other people.
1-- when i am forcing silence, I notice how my AP, little by little (it takes more or less 2 hours) moves down the J curve. I notice it on new things appearing.
For instance I start seeing the colors. At some point textures are visible. Then some whitish lights appears in random places in the room. Then I see parts of the wall.
But I dont focus on anything.
So, as far as I understood, this is vertical movement.
2-- and when I decide to focus on anything that appears in differents positions of the J curve, I am shifting right or left.
For instance, focusing on the colors, on the wall, on my body.
Is it like this?
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u/danl999
4 points2020-09-22 18:38
Yea, 2 hours is about right. 1 hour to get super bright colors for me, when it's not a "good day".
The super bright colors allow moving further, so it takes another hour.
Hour #3 is playtime!
However, if an IOB shows up and is interactive, you can get there in 10 minutes.
Yes, figure out the sequence!!! Colors, textures, whitish light randomly, then seeing the walls.
A map like that ould help the men.
The women, not so much. They skip around wherever they like.
One seems to have invoked a weird copy of don Juan I see from time to time.
Is just focusing on any colors or the wall going to shift you right or left?
No, as long as you feel, "normal", it's not doing that.
All the clues for this are in the books.
Including some very disturbing ones, like don Juan being made to dress up like a woman.
Or Carlos making Grant pose naked in infinity theater.
I'd say, possibly you could look around the room and see what, "doesn't feel right", and focus on that.
If you find nothing that doesn't feel right, you already set up the intent.
Just be patient.
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u/Michail_D
1 points2020-09-23 09:01
Not to argue, but to think ;)
Why is the sky blue and why are the eyes weakly sensitive to violet color? Why is magenta a non-spectral color? Why is the near purple color called "black light"? Why can soft ultraviolet color appear gray-blue?
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Everywhere I looked I was surrounded by it. Ignore the repeated faces; I didn't have the time to edit all of them different!
Today a new friend here asked what do we stare at while doing darkroom practice... just darkness?
Thats because you didnt wear the "assamblage point shift sunglasses"!!
Looks like the text of this comment
from u/danl999 got attached to a previous version of this post that you deleted? It comes up as user deleted when we try to access it. So here's the text of his comment:
"Looks like "chunky style" Crystalline dreaming fog to me.
Wait until you get "chunky style feeling fog"!
Fancy has introduced me to that stuff.
It contains all the darkest episodes from your childhood, which you were forced to abandon because no one was talking about it.
The most notable are from rightward shifts of the assemblage point.
There's a reason the old sorcerers like to shift right.
Children enjoy the same reason.
Power.
I suppose you could say it contains the unspoiled intuition of a child.
But whatever it is, darkroom gazing is a pandora's box, and we have no idea all the things you can do in there.
Last night, after I switched to viewing dark energy on the horizon, all the colors changed.
The whitish light I could see on the walls and bed never returned to white!
It was purple now.
Which is confusing. I was thinking you (Juann) would eventually clear out your purple stuff, and have an empty room with whitish light on the walls.
So you can do "clean" experiments.
You've gone too far Juann! I'm trying to show you a path in the forest, and you keep finding side paths I didn't know about.
It seems that it's all a mess in the second attention.
We have at least a few "crazy" people in this subreddit. We all know who they are...
So far, their madness has kept them from learning real magic.
But that's because no one else was learning it!
Just wait until they get serious!
They'll give Cholita a run for her money.
My conclusion:
Don Juan and his party were "stalking positions of the assemblage point", for Carlos.
Which gave us the wrong impression about things.
We have the impression there's only one path in the forest.
And that misunderstanding has led to some really annoying moments for Carlos. And for Carol.
Carlos would be explaining something wonderful, and a hot-shot inventory expert in private classes would interrupt him:
"Wait! On page 24 of the third book you said that was orange! Now you say it's blue???"
(Implication: You're tricking us, we don't trust you.)"
Oh yes, thanks! I changed something in the pic.
I didnt see the comment!
I am really enjoying it! Keep on that path and I will be doing a zig zag around it. Thats me having a walk in nature.
I completly realized about that. I believe I am progressing so fast because I just catched your Intent of making this work (maybe Carlos one too).
I have not any interest but learning sorcery, so I am fully empty, ready to do what this Intent says.
Thats amazing.
I believe La Gorda was right when she said, no one has enough energy to do dreaming everyday. So they did other things to charge up, like sunlight glitter.
It applies to waking dreaming too. So when you have fantastic results, but then the next day it's not very good, that could be one cause.
You can also get into a social fuss, and that can make it harder to get silent.
Or, finally, you can deviate down a side path.
I'm not talking about Juann's side path. That's just seeing.
It's messy, and there's too much to see.
But it is possible along the way, on the J curve, to notice something and play with it.
And shift your assemblage point right or left.
Fancy has taught me, you can shift horizontally the same way you move along the J curve.
Watch something coming from the second attention.
So at any point on that J curve, where you are seeing things in front of you, at least one of them can likely shift you horizontally.
I like my "big park" analogy.
We're following geese down a cement path, because we want to get to the large pond we kept hearing about, where everything is super beautiful.
Most of the geese (puffs of colored light) are headed that way.
If we keep following them in general, we'll reach the pond.
However, if you look at the bushes to the side, which are easy to see because of their rough texture, compared to the smooth path, you might find a stray cat.
Just a little black cat hiding under a bush.
You turn your head in his direction and start waking cautiously.
You just shifted horizontally!
The bushes are creepy. There's even skunks in there.
But it feels sort of pleasant.
The next day you start down the same path, the J curve path to the heightened awareness pond.
But when you pass the bushes with the cat, you can't help but linger there a bit, waiting to see if the cat comes back.
That will feel like an "off day".
But in fact, you're integrating results that day.
Fancy taught me that too. She teaches a day or two, then leaves me alone to integrate it.
If I do a good job of that, she shows up when I lay to sleep.
Yes, a few days ago I was thinking about that.
Even though I do the practice almost every day, some nights I am not determined to do it. Not because of my internal dialogue; there are simply days that something in me doesnt want to go so deep.
Yes, it can be as you say, we are integrating things.
But I was wondering, should I try to move my AP as much as I can this days too?
You don't want to hear that answer.
Have you noticed the possibility of shifting to the right?
I'd like to say "left", but I haven't found any way to do that (short of swimming in the crystalline dreaming fog).
Last night Fancy pointed out an object I could focus on, to shift right.
I was struggling to use her left eye/right eye old sorcerer's technique.
I wanted to make a magical goblet pop out of the wall again!
But all I got was a few sparks of light. They twisted around as I switched eyes, and finally Fancy emerged.
It was her, hiding in the wall.
She glanced far to the right of her, on the west wall.
There was a shelf, with a black bottle sitting on it.
I realized if I focused on that, I'd shift right at my current J curve depth.
Fancy put an idea in my mind. If you look around in darkroom gazing, you can always find a black bottle (an object which can shift you right).
There's some humor in that bottle.
It's almost like she was saying, "Drink that bottle!"
(alice in wonderland)
Keep in mind. We have to DO SOMETHING. We can't only not-do.
We know all sorts of doings. And they're irrelevant. The precise doings we find in the dark room are meaningless.
Doings are finished intent. It's formed already.
And it's easy to color your doings. Such as by reading that wonderful story about the second attention.
It leaves a mark.
We have to have our "doings", or we can't exist there in the dark room.
I suppose someone who was not completely sane might do better in the dark room. They wouldn't be as possessive of their doings, and wouldn't filter out all other possibilities.
But they'll never seriously try it. Insanity seems to come with an obsession about other people.
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Beep. Boop. I'm a robot.
Here's a copy of
Alice In Wonderland
Was I a good bot? | info | More Books
Got a sexy bot little sister?
So help me identify:
1-- when i am forcing silence, I notice how my AP, little by little (it takes more or less 2 hours) moves down the J curve. I notice it on new things appearing.
For instance I start seeing the colors. At some point textures are visible. Then some whitish lights appears in random places in the room. Then I see parts of the wall.
But I dont focus on anything.
So, as far as I understood, this is vertical movement.
2-- and when I decide to focus on anything that appears in differents positions of the J curve, I am shifting right or left.
For instance, focusing on the colors, on the wall, on my body.
Is it like this?
Yea, 2 hours is about right. 1 hour to get super bright colors for me, when it's not a "good day".
The super bright colors allow moving further, so it takes another hour.
Hour #3 is playtime!
However, if an IOB shows up and is interactive, you can get there in 10 minutes.
Yes, figure out the sequence!!! Colors, textures, whitish light randomly, then seeing the walls.
A map like that ould help the men.
The women, not so much. They skip around wherever they like.
One seems to have invoked a weird copy of don Juan I see from time to time.
Is just focusing on any colors or the wall going to shift you right or left?
No, as long as you feel, "normal", it's not doing that.
All the clues for this are in the books.
Including some very disturbing ones, like don Juan being made to dress up like a woman.
Or Carlos making Grant pose naked in infinity theater.
I'd say, possibly you could look around the room and see what, "doesn't feel right", and focus on that.
If you find nothing that doesn't feel right, you already set up the intent.
Just be patient.
Not to argue, but to think ;)
Why is the sky blue and why are the eyes weakly sensitive to violet color? Why is magenta a non-spectral color? Why is the near purple color called "black light"? Why can soft ultraviolet color appear gray-blue?