
Trying to update map from Taisha's book additions
A couple of interesting things;
Why are Zuleica and Emilito using the same name in Taisha's books, when other characters do not?
Good thing for us, don't you think?
And Vicente, who could make his allies real. We need to know about that. Same name used?
La Catalina same name. But others not?
Also, Zuleica had Taisha "observing" to move her assemblage point, but she had Carlos "feeling" for his second attention assemblage point. She didn't emphasize watching at all in that case.
Only at first until he found his colors.
How come?
Is it a male versus female thing?
Men are hunters. Women gatherers.
Gatherers are most observant of tiny things.
Hunters use their body to catch stuff.
Is that why?
But most important, my request: I'd like to update that map I made of don Juan's world.
It should be available, so people can refer to it when they don't understand who someone is.
I should do Florinda's books too.
But let's start with Taisha's.
I've got Nelida, Zuleica, Emilito, and Clara. And Vicente?
Any descriptions you run into are useful. Age, origin.
More people I don't know about is the most useful useful.
And theories on what their names are, in Carlos' books. Who's Clara in his books? Who are the men mentioned? Is Vicente mentioned with the same full name?
It seems to be one of the households I extracted from Carlos' books, because of a mention of which way they lived relative to each other, in a recent quote.
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Clara Mendez
don Vicente (no last name)
Nelida (mentioned 238 times) no last name given
Señor Abelar (don Juan) aka. Juan Miguel Abelar
Doña Catalina (La Catalina)
and Manfred the dog!
"...We met Benny at the Vicam Station store where we were buying bread and fruit for our lunch. He said that if we hurry, we can make it to Potam in time to see the Easter dances that were part of the celebrations in honor of the Holy Trinity, the patron saint of the church...."
"...Benny wanted to stay for the dance and fireworks, but Carlos said he needed to make another stop to pick up some masks and maybe a set of cocoon bells for the museum. We left Benny with some of his friends and went back to Vicam Station. But before we got to the village, Carlos suddenly turned off the main road, onto a dark road as if he knew exactly where he was going...(to don Juan's cabin)"
"...Don Juan laughed. "I learned some Yaqui dance steps in my youth," he admitted. I lived for many years in Pascua, a Yaqui town in Arizona..."
""...Carlos won't be back for quite some time," Don Juan informed me. "Right now he is going to Ciudad Obregon for some business."
"What kind of business?" I asked alarmed. "Besides the fact that his car is here, how is he going to get there?"
"Someone is driving him in her car," he said with emphasis on hers. He looked at me as if to assess my reaction..."
"...Then I saw a young woman of my age. She was blonde, had blue eyes and was small and very pretty. Her name was Florinda and she was the pupil of the older woman with the same name, who was Nelida's counterpart..."
"...The Nagual woman, Carol, whom she remembered seeing before was also there. She was the young woman who had given Carlos his bread at the bakery in Hermosillo. But I already knew her. She helped me up in the tree house and had taken care of me while I was unconscious for three days and two nights...."
There were also a number of people never named because they were speaking Spanish and she didn't catch their names. I think it was in Guaymas.
Great! I added it all.
"I breathed a little easier and got lost seeing the shadows and colors that the sun projected on the desert landscape as we drove to the house of Don Felipe (in the village of Potam), the mask maker.
His house had a wooden cross in the courtyard and was situated at the edge of a cultivated field. It was more spacious than the other houses I had seen, and it was built with good adobe bricks and the earth around it was clean and well tamped down....
...I felt that don Felipe did not want to sell masks to Carlos. But when Carlos said he was working with don Juan, whom don Felipe seemed to know, he got up and went into the back room and took out a mask wrapped in red cloth. He carefully unfolded the cloth to reveal a different mask than the ones we had found in the store. This mask was really creepy. It was unpainted and had no horsehair ornaments. The facial features were distorted as in a grunt. The mouth was open, the eyes slightly tilted, one higher than the other. The wood was white with layers of natural swirls in its grain. It was beautiful, but at the same time, impressive."
Masks are indeed a big deal in Mexico. Tocuaro in particular is often called, "Mask Town".:
http://briansue2.blogspot.com/2018/02/tocuaro-mask-town.html
Famous mask makers named Filipe:
Felipe Orta, mask maker, Tocuaro, Michoacan, Mexico:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390828073883314028/
Felipe de Jesús Horta Tera, Tocuaro (very famous)
https://www.maskmuseum.org/mask/michoacan-hortaf-diablo-1/
Potam seems to be a a Yaqui hangout. Here's "Indian Deer Dancing".
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00155870701621780?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=rfol20
Bottom line: We have enough info to track down some of these places.
And people too.
Vicente was famous, he ought to be easy to track down also.
But not for long. Time is passing. No one will be left alive who can remember details of where to search.
She would have met the mask maker in the late 60's-early 70's. Fifty years ago. He was already a "don," a 30+ or so year old man, at that time.
Are either of these artisans around 80-90 years old at the least...
I guess not.
70s eh???
I might have taken some Karate classes with Taisha back then, according to further pictures I saw of her on the net.
Only Taisha or the photo book from the main Shotokan dojo in LA could answer that.
But I saw more pics of her doing Karate poses, and remembered her hair.
Faces I can't recall.
Her hair was short, but "perky".
There weren't many women in Shotokan back then. Only one I ever saw at the LA dojo.
"Who is that girl? -I asked as we continued down the dirt road. The dust was getting into my eyes and made me sneeze.
For a moment, Carlos was silent. -That's Josephine, - he finally said. Don't you remember?
The name was very familiar. Suddenly my ears popped and I remembered where I had seen her. She was the girl who had assaulted me at Zuleica's house.
-She is a witch! -I said in a choppy voice, -What is she doing here? And don't tell me she's helping the store owner, like that woman at the restaurant in Santa Ana."
before this they were in Nogales
Zuleica's other house was in Guadalajara
"Emilito took me to the most beautiful Spanish colonial house I had ever seen that was not Clara's. Outside, it had a simple facade with bars on the windows and several balconies on the second floor overlooking the streets below. The balcony I had admired from the plaza was filled with potted geraniums and thick green ferns. Those who live here love plants, was the sensation I felt when we entered through the enormous twelve-panel door.
Inside, the patio was cool and dark. It reminded me of a cloister from another era. Columns and arches with a row of stone walkways. Raised flowerbeds framed a small orchard with fruit trees. Portions of the high walls were covered with hanging honeysuckles and wisteria growing on grids. The cold stone benches were flanked by flowers growing in ceramic pots with a marbled blue-green glaze, and a huge agave cactus grew in a stone pot.
To one side was a dark corridor that led to a small courtyard with a garden. A carved wooden bench with a high back was placed against the wall, and a beautiful jacaranda tree shaded the rectangular enclosure. To one side was a stone grotto, with a thin waterfall that flowed into a small pool. The house and grounds seemed to me to be the most peaceful place in the world. From time to time I could hear the birds roaring, but even they were silent and softened as if out of respect for the sanctity of the house. To think that this oasis of tranquility existed in the heart of a busy cosmopolitan city seemed in itself an act of power.
-Sit down on this bench and wait for the lady of the house to show herself, - suggested Emilito. Now that I have given you up, I will leave.
-Wait, wait, Emilito. I don't know the lady of the house. Won't you stay and introduce me to her?
-Of course you know her, - said Emilito, surprised. You met her in Sonora. Her name is Zuleica."
I’d like a copy, translating the Spanish one is a big job.
If someone wants to pay me for it I’ll spend the time but.. I’d rather just grab an English version.
You don't have to! The files are in the Wiki's List of Publications section under Abelar. Original English manuscript included.
I should pay you for that information!!
The link is in the wiki, list of publications. Scroll down to Taisha
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/booklist
Vicente Medrano
Julian Osorio
Wasn't Julian long gone?
But, he was associated with La Catalina, who was there at that time.
He's mentioned as the head of the group to which Catalina belonged, but only his first name (in the manuscript), to hit home how old she is...and her unnaturally youthful appearance for being over 100.
I have to admit, Cholita announced she was getting younger more than a half year ago, and it seems true.
But she stopped covering up the mirrors, slightly before that. That's supposed to be part of the process.
Here's an interesting fact about Curanderos:
"It is possible to be a ‘specialist’, even within the field of curanderismo, with many healers (known as peyoteros) specifically working with the spiritual hallucinogen peyote, and, therefore, falling under the branch of yerberos (healers who are herbalists first and foremost). "
This page lists famous healers in Mexico, and includes Maria Sabina, and Dona Pachita:
https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/mexico/articles/meet-mexicos-curandero-healers-enacting-surgical-miracles/
Sabina (mushroom healer) lost her allies, which she could not visually see, by talking about them too much as a result of becoming famous.
Pachita was spoken about by Carlos, and I believe Bruce made a movie based on her "surgery" doings.
Vicente ought to be fairly easy to track down!
What about all the people and houses from The Second Ring of Power?
Also, I think it would be much better if you name the houses in a way it's easy to remember, for example, you could have "Silvio Manuel's house", "the Haunted Mansion", "Don Juan's cabin" and so on...
Good idea, I will! It'll take some time. Maybe I'll redo the layout, to include Taisha's and Florinda's copies, side by side with which ones seem to correspond.
And the mask makers house. Why not?
You have lists from second ring?
How about Flo's books?
It'll have to be a 4K map I suppose.
I have not read Flo's books yet. I can make those lists if they haven't been done already. Yeah, we will probably need a bigger and more detailed map. We could even include things like those small towns DJ would take CC and the plazas they stayed at, or the park in Mexico City, for example.
I'll make it 4K x 4K. I'm a little busy now, but I'll surely add everything added to this post.
And each house potentially might have 3 houses, from the different points of view. I'll have to color them differently to make it obvious.
And add "detective" info, like on Filipe the mask maker.
Want to do a little work?
I have them arranged north, south, east, west.
Can you tell me which should have which name, and justify it from the books so it's not a random addition (which could weaken the intent).
Remember that recently posted quote about naming the allies. The naming of a thing is a serious matter.
I took that up with Fancy just last night. She decided to materialize as a man for a short time.
I complained that she was female, and besides I liked how she looked that way. Didn't she want to be "fancy" anymore.
She giggled, turned around in full animation speed (gasp!), and then rematerialized with a fancy hat, all covered in lace.
She did an imitation of women from the movie "Gone with the Wind".
That's as fancy as it gets!
Okay, whenever I get some free time I will work on that!