Made glasses for darkroom practice. These glasses are useful if you don't have the ability to organize a perfect dark room or if you want to practice during the day. You can take these glasses with you and practice wherever you like. The basis was taken protective goggles for gas cutting and welding 3M 2895S Fahrenheit. The cost is about $ 10. These glasses already have tinted lenses, but this dimming is not enough to completely remove visible light. I sealed the glass with regular aluminum tape. It's great that these glasses are indirectly ventilated so that no light leaks through the holes. Also, the mask fits snugly to the face, there are absolutely no cracks. Glasses fit comfortably on the face, do not press. Absolute darkness. Eyes are open, you can blink freely, nothing bothers the eyelids.
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u/couchbutt
1 points2020-11-28 17:44
As OwnOil has stated below, he bought these from Ukraine. In North America, you may have trouble finding them per the information above. I just ordered a pair identified as "2890 series". They come in three colors, one of which being grey frame, grey lens. I can confirm the darkness of the frames when I receive this model.
Not sure if the venting design is the same though as they're safety and not welding goggles like the 2895S model.
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u/Own_Oil7766
2 points2020-11-29 05:08
Not sure if the venting design is the same though as they're safety and not welding goggles like the 2895S model.
Yes, such a model will not work. In addition, the frame is transparent, it will light up from the sides.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
0 points2020-11-28 10:42
Looks like they aren't available on Amazon, at least not in the USA (saw 3-4 listings on Amazon.de & ".es that were Temporarily Out of Stock or Unavailable).
Probably why they didn't show up in my earlier searching. Maybe they're just more popular in Europe than in the States.
Looks like Google Shopping is listing them as available at two shops: for $42, & for $24 and there are a few other listings at smaller welding specific shops in India and Asia (?, not familiar with all foreign currency symbols).
Good find, regardless, design-wise!
Let us know how the adhesion of the aluminum tape holds up over time. The anti-fog/mist coating prevents paint from sticking, that much I'm certain of. Peels right off almost immediately.
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u/Own_Oil7766
3 points2020-11-28 12:32
Maybe they're just more popular in Europe than in the States.Good find, regardless, design-wise!Let us know how the adhesion of the aluminum tape holds up over time. The anti-fog/mist coating prevents paint from sticking, that much I'm certain of. Peels right off almost immediately.
I bought these glasses in Ukraine. We sell them in many online stores. I will inform you about adhesion later.
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u/ju5510
0 points2020-11-28 15:08
Pretty sure ordinary ski goggles will get the job done haha
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u/Own_Oil7766
3 points2020-11-28 16:05
Pretty sure ordinary ski goggles will get the job done haha
I looked at such glasses. They have a frame made of transparent or translucent plastic that allows light to pass through. And through holes through which light also passes. But in general, if you find a suitable model of sports glasses, then why not.
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u/couchbutt
1 points2020-11-28 19:06
Go directly to 3m.com.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-11-28 19:53
I just did, no results for "2895S" 🙁
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u/Gnos_Yidari
0 points2020-11-28 11:18
Doesn't light find a way through those vent holes, offset or not? In my experience if there's any hole or crack whatsoever, it will leak SOME light.
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u/Own_Oil7766
2 points2020-11-28 12:36
Doesn't light find a way through those vent holes, offset or not? In my experience if there's any hole or crack whatsoever, it will leak SOME light.
No, the light does not pass at all. Some special valves are made there, and the ventilation holes are covered. Apparently, so that the combustion products from the gas discharge do not immediately fall into the mask.
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u/Gnos_Yidari
1 points2020-11-28 13:06
Fantastic!
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u/Juann2323
1 points2020-11-28 15:20
That's so cool! I will have to do some of those for my holidays. I bet this ones are dirt bike glasses?? Or ski ones?
I think I have one.
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u/Own_Oil7766
3 points2020-11-28 16:58
That's so cool! I will have to do some of those for my holidays. I bet this ones are dirt bike glasses?? Or ski ones?
I think I have one.
These are safety industrial goggles for gas welding.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-11-28 16:51
Did anyone try underwater goggles, like they use with a snorkle?
Seems like you could just spray the outside with something to make it absolutely dark. It's sealed on the sides to keep water out. And they're dirt cheap.
They won't hit your eyelashes.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-11-28 19:47
I looked into them, and then bought a pair at a sporting goods store. They suction so tight to your face, necessary to block the light, that they give you "racoon eyes" (black eyes) if you wear them out of the water for longer than an hour or so.
They're designed to be used in the pool, not in a bedroom.
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u/danl999
2 points2020-11-28 20:44
You could add an angular hole, matched on the other side by a different hole, coming in at different angle. So no light can sneak through there, but air can.
I'm picturing sunbathing booth glasses from your warning about black eyes. Only covering the eyes.
I was suggesting the "normal" kind you see on kids who are snorkeling.
But I suppose suction could do that. Shouldn't take more than a red hot pin sized hole to put a stop to any suction.
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u/Own_Oil7766
2 points2020-11-29 05:14
You could add an angular hole, matched on the other side by a different hole, coming in at different angle. So no light can sneak through there, but air can.
I'm picturing sunbathing booth glasses from your warning about black eyes. Only covering the eyes.
I was suggesting the "normal" kind you see on kids who are snorkeling.
But I suppose suction could do that. Shouldn't take more than a red hot pin sized hole to put a stop to any suction.
I think you can use a mask instead of diving goggles if you seal the glass with aluminum tape. mask like this
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u/danl999
2 points2020-11-29 16:33
That's probably better than the standard kind, which likely put something on the bridge of your nose.
But maybe you need air holes to avoid the suctioned black eye effect.
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u/Iak7_is_West
1 points2020-11-29 02:18
Thanks for sharing, funny i almost blew past, i initially mistook the image for a sponsored ad, ....
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u/Own_Oil7766
2 points2020-11-29 14:31
So, to summarize after two days of using my glasses
1.Reliability: glasses are quite reliable, high-quality construction, adhesive aluminum tape does not peel off or fall off. You can take it with you to work or on trips, take up little space.
2.Convenience: The glasses are quite comfortable. The first 10 ... 15 minutes of use you feel some discomfort due to the fact that there is an unusual foreign object on your face, then you get used to it very quickly and you don't even notice. Do not chafe or crush when properly fitted, and do not irritate the skin. Eyes and eyelids are free.
Efficiency: very effective. You can practice in them even on a clear sunny day outside. I specifically wore glasses and looked at the sun and at the powerful LED lamp - glasses provide perfect darkness, without the slightest gap or crevices. Minimum fit to face required.
Impressions of practice with glasses: glasses are as effective as a completely dark room. Literally 10 minutes after starting the practice, I began to see light spots, stripes, sparks. Two hours passed unnoticed. An interesting and strange impression: as if you see the room through these glasses as through a night vision device or night binoculars, although physically this cannot be.
Conclusions: In general, this design fully met my expectations. I even managed to enter a red spot and fall into a dream when using these glasses. I only recommend finding this particular model.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-01-13 11:47
Here are two more possible models, but not as good as the 3M 2895S:
Amazon - Pyramex V2G PLUS - the hard plastic head buckle piece may become uncomfortable with extended wear, just a guess. especially if you put your head back against a headrest or lay down.
Amazon - Selstrom S80225 - designed for wildland firefighters. they appear to have side gaps in the latex the fits the face, that may allow a bit of light to enter into peripheral vision...which may only be an issue in full sunlight.
Both would require aluminum tape applied to the lenses of course. And I still feel that over hours of wear the edging/perimeter of the silicone/latex will produce visible creasing on the face, as opposed to the foam of the Goalball Goggles.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-03-03 16:07
From public chat on March 3, 2022:
[username 1]
I got the 3M safety glasses with tape that one Ukrainian guy once suggested. It is great you have much more room for your eyes.
You should recommed to people to buy that since i bought a cheap 3d sleep mask before and I couldn't open my eyes in there.
In that mask you can have complete darkness even in sunlight.
[username 2]
I tried those but to get a good seal required painful levels of pressure. I just couldn't wear them for very long, though I got decent light blocking after lots of added duct tape.
The manta masks are a touch pricey, but very dark and way more comfortable for me, though also not perfect. Next step for me is to paint the windows and see how that goes.
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Made glasses for darkroom practice. These glasses are useful if you don't have the ability to organize a perfect dark room or if you want to practice during the day. You can take these glasses with you and practice wherever you like. The basis was taken protective goggles for gas cutting and welding 3M 2895S Fahrenheit. The cost is about $ 10. These glasses already have tinted lenses, but this dimming is not enough to completely remove visible light. I sealed the glass with regular aluminum tape. It's great that these glasses are indirectly ventilated so that no light leaks through the holes. Also, the mask fits snugly to the face, there are absolutely no cracks. Glasses fit comfortably on the face, do not press. Absolute darkness. Eyes are open, you can blink freely, nothing bothers the eyelids.
As OwnOil has stated below, he bought these from Ukraine. In North America, you may have trouble finding them per the information above. I just ordered a pair identified as "2890 series". They come in three colors, one of which being grey frame, grey lens. I can confirm the darkness of the frames when I receive this model.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-GoggleGear-2890-Series-Safety-Goggles/?N=5002385+3290505926&rt=rud
Not sure if the venting design is the same though as they're safety and not welding goggles like the 2895S model.
Yes, such a model will not work. In addition, the frame is transparent, it will light up from the sides.
Looks like they aren't available on Amazon, at least not in the USA (saw 3-4 listings on Amazon.de & ".es that were Temporarily Out of Stock or Unavailable).
They're also Currently Unavailable on Amazon.uk
There are a few listings in Italy, the Netherlands & Germany that have stock.
Probably why they didn't show up in my earlier searching. Maybe they're just more popular in Europe than in the States.
Looks like Google Shopping is listing them as available at two shops: for $42, & for $24 and there are a few other listings at smaller welding specific shops in India and Asia (?, not familiar with all foreign currency symbols).
Good find, regardless, design-wise!
Let us know how the adhesion of the aluminum tape holds up over time. The anti-fog/mist coating prevents paint from sticking, that much I'm certain of. Peels right off almost immediately.
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I bought these glasses in Ukraine. We sell them in many online stores. I will inform you about adhesion later.
Pretty sure ordinary ski goggles will get the job done haha
I looked at such glasses. They have a frame made of transparent or translucent plastic that allows light to pass through. And through holes through which light also passes. But in general, if you find a suitable model of sports glasses, then why not.
Go directly to 3m.com.
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I just did, no results for "2895S" 🙁
Doesn't light find a way through those vent holes, offset or not? In my experience if there's any hole or crack whatsoever, it will leak SOME light.
No, the light does not pass at all. Some special valves are made there, and the ventilation holes are covered. Apparently, so that the combustion products from the gas discharge do not immediately fall into the mask.
Fantastic!
That's so cool! I will have to do some of those for my holidays. I bet this ones are dirt bike glasses?? Or ski ones?
I think I have one.
These are safety industrial goggles for gas welding.
Did anyone try underwater goggles, like they use with a snorkle?
Seems like you could just spray the outside with something to make it absolutely dark. It's sealed on the sides to keep water out. And they're dirt cheap.
They won't hit your eyelashes.
I looked into them, and then bought a pair at a sporting goods store. They suction so tight to your face, necessary to block the light, that they give you "racoon eyes" (black eyes) if you wear them out of the water for longer than an hour or so.
They're designed to be used in the pool, not in a bedroom.
You could add an angular hole, matched on the other side by a different hole, coming in at different angle. So no light can sneak through there, but air can.
I'm picturing sunbathing booth glasses from your warning about black eyes. Only covering the eyes.
I was suggesting the "normal" kind you see on kids who are snorkeling.
But I suppose suction could do that. Shouldn't take more than a red hot pin sized hole to put a stop to any suction.
That's probably better than the standard kind, which likely put something on the bridge of your nose.
But maybe you need air holes to avoid the suctioned black eye effect.
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Thanks for sharing, funny i almost blew past, i initially mistook the image for a sponsored ad, ....
So, to summarize after two days of using my glasses
1.Reliability: glasses are quite reliable, high-quality construction, adhesive aluminum tape does not peel off or fall off. You can take it with you to work or on trips, take up little space.
2.Convenience: The glasses are quite comfortable. The first 10 ... 15 minutes of use you feel some discomfort due to the fact that there is an unusual foreign object on your face, then you get used to it very quickly and you don't even notice. Do not chafe or crush when properly fitted, and do not irritate the skin. Eyes and eyelids are free.
Efficiency: very effective. You can practice in them even on a clear sunny day outside. I specifically wore glasses and looked at the sun and at the powerful LED lamp - glasses provide perfect darkness, without the slightest gap or crevices. Minimum fit to face required.
Impressions of practice with glasses: glasses are as effective as a completely dark room. Literally 10 minutes after starting the practice, I began to see light spots, stripes, sparks. Two hours passed unnoticed. An interesting and strange impression: as if you see the room through these glasses as through a night vision device or night binoculars, although physically this cannot be.
Conclusions: In general, this design fully met my expectations. I even managed to enter a red spot and fall into a dream when using these glasses. I only recommend finding this particular model.
Here are two more possible models, but not as good as the 3M 2895S:
Amazon - Pyramex V2G PLUS - the hard plastic head buckle piece may become uncomfortable with extended wear, just a guess. especially if you put your head back against a headrest or lay down.
Amazon - Selstrom S80225 - designed for wildland firefighters. they appear to have side gaps in the latex the fits the face, that may allow a bit of light to enter into peripheral vision...which may only be an issue in full sunlight.
Both would require aluminum tape applied to the lenses of course. And I still feel that over hours of wear the edging/perimeter of the silicone/latex will produce visible creasing on the face, as opposed to the foam of the Goalball Goggles.
[deleted]
From public chat on March 3, 2022:
[username 1]
I got the 3M safety glasses with tape that one Ukrainian guy once suggested. It is great you have much more room for your eyes.
You should recommed to people to buy that since i bought a cheap 3d sleep mask before and I couldn't open my eyes in there.
In that mask you can have complete darkness even in sunlight.
[username 2]
I tried those but to get a good seal required painful levels of pressure. I just couldn't wear them for very long, though I got decent light blocking after lots of added duct tape.
The manta masks are a touch pricey, but very dark and way more comfortable for me, though also not perfect. Next step for me is to paint the windows and see how that goes.