Is there any residual light leaking in, no matter how minimal? I remember reading that an optimal human eye can detect the light of a single candle from close to two miles (3 km) away.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2020-12-17 16:08
Right, then ruling that out it's second attention weirdness that we've lost familiarity with as adults.
I just saw
this image
recently and recalled that I would frequently feel that when laying down on my back on the ground and closing my eyes as a kid.
And I obviously wasn't drunk.
AP Sliding Sensation?
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u/1solve_et
1 points2020-12-17 14:32
I actually think I know what you’re talking about, like a blackness engulfs the entire vision of one eye? That happens to me often at different points of practicing and I’ve always just seen it as one of the many visual and auditory phenomenon which happen during dark room practice. Is it accompanied by feelings of a slight headache? If not, don’t think too much about it and in your practices in the future you should find you ride through that part quicker and quicker.
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u/eoscris
1 points2020-12-17 15:49
I have no pain. but it annoys me: P as if something sticking to my eye was sticking and moving. but I want to know if anyone has a problem with it and what is it actually? :)
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u/CruCial_Js
1 points2020-12-22 17:37
It's funny but I get something very similar. When I'm ready or quiet I start to see a jet black shadow start to move. It usually starts with the right eye and usually at the lower part of my field of vision, sometimes from the extreme right. I liken them to arms reaching around or tentacles whipping around. They are eradic in movement and they always bring with them "waves". Waves as in my eyes are liquid and waves of dark grey stuff ripples back and forth. The ripples arent always contained to one eye, I've seen them going all over the place. It's fun to watch and can definitely be used to move the ap.
The funny part is that the reaching of the shadows are so creepy that I sometimes believe that they're IOBs affecting my vision frame. I dont think you have anything to worry about, enjoy.
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u/Juann2323
1 points2020-12-17 15:54
Yeah, it is normal. Don't worry, just ignore it and it will go.
I had it too. It feels like getting blind on one eye.
Just focus on the things you perceive. The second attention is seen with something else than the eyes.
Also keep in mind that silence is what will allow you to enter in deep dreaming states, so focus on that part.
Silence needs to be trained. As Don Juan says you gain "seconds of silence" everytime you practice. Once you have a good level, it will be enough to make a shift of the assamblage point to reach heightened awareness.
What we do here is like a "silence trick", in wich we get inmersed playing with the second attention, wich also leads to shutting of the internal dialogue.
But if you don't succed on that trick, focus on the silence part.
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u/danl999
3 points2020-12-17 17:08
I wonder if it's possible it has a connection to the "jet blackness" Carlos described, in the mirror in the water incident?
The same jet blackness that eats up the lighter side of the Yin/Yan whorl?
Or is like when you get up to go to the bathroom, turn on the lights, and find the room is filled with sparkling dots, or swirling colors, and if you relax to look at them, blackness covers it over.
Also, you stand up too fast, and your vision goes black.
That's a blood flow thing. Could be the darkroom practice relaxes some muscles, and blood flow alters.
Certainly as the assemblage point moves, all sorts of changes take place in the body.
Good changes. We force our bodies to fit some sort of mold we've picked up.
Clinch the teeth all the time, make fists when upset, hunch the shoulders when arguing.
But even asthma can go away when you reach heightened awareness, as if it were merely bad body posture that got corrected by relaxing.
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u/eoscris
2 points2020-12-18 05:32
I don't move much in the darkroom, besides I'm a rational person and I don't over-interpret anything I experience. I will not compare my experience to what I read in CC's books :). So it's probably some kind of disorder in the blood flow to the brain. :)
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u/danl999
3 points2020-12-18 16:01
Unique people is what we need. We're trying to map the unknown, to make it more available to modern day cell phone gazers.
There are SO MANY directions to go with this. I was exploring forks in the road early this morning.
Maybe I'll draw it up.
Bottom line, you need to work hard so that what you perceive is stronger and stronger, until you literally have a tiny being sitting gently on your hand, and you can talk to it.
Then you can answer your own questions. Or it can.
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u/lurklops
1 points2020-12-20 19:48
The same thing happens to me, its like a rolling blindness that moves and goes from eye to eye sometimes. It's more than that I think. A few times when I 'focused' on it, it turned into very bright waves moving on repeat in a specific motion.
The brightest one I've ever seen was while lying on my back in the dark, it was coming seemingly from the top of my head and travelling down into my neck. Then repeating over again.
I have no idea what it is, but it's definitely something.
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Is there any residual light leaking in, no matter how minimal? I remember reading that an optimal human eye can detect the light of a single candle from close to two miles (3 km) away.
[deleted]
Right, then ruling that out it's second attention weirdness that we've lost familiarity with as adults.
I just saw
this image
And I obviously wasn't drunk.
AP Sliding Sensation?
[deleted]
I actually think I know what you’re talking about, like a blackness engulfs the entire vision of one eye? That happens to me often at different points of practicing and I’ve always just seen it as one of the many visual and auditory phenomenon which happen during dark room practice. Is it accompanied by feelings of a slight headache? If not, don’t think too much about it and in your practices in the future you should find you ride through that part quicker and quicker.
I have no pain. but it annoys me: P as if something sticking to my eye was sticking and moving. but I want to know if anyone has a problem with it and what is it actually? :)
It's funny but I get something very similar. When I'm ready or quiet I start to see a jet black shadow start to move. It usually starts with the right eye and usually at the lower part of my field of vision, sometimes from the extreme right. I liken them to arms reaching around or tentacles whipping around. They are eradic in movement and they always bring with them "waves". Waves as in my eyes are liquid and waves of dark grey stuff ripples back and forth. The ripples arent always contained to one eye, I've seen them going all over the place. It's fun to watch and can definitely be used to move the ap.
The funny part is that the reaching of the shadows are so creepy that I sometimes believe that they're IOBs affecting my vision frame. I dont think you have anything to worry about, enjoy.
Yeah, it is normal. Don't worry, just ignore it and it will go.
I had it too. It feels like getting blind on one eye.
Just focus on the things you perceive. The second attention is seen with something else than the eyes.
Also keep in mind that silence is what will allow you to enter in deep dreaming states, so focus on that part.
Silence needs to be trained. As Don Juan says you gain "seconds of silence" everytime you practice. Once you have a good level, it will be enough to make a shift of the assamblage point to reach heightened awareness.
What we do here is like a "silence trick", in wich we get inmersed playing with the second attention, wich also leads to shutting of the internal dialogue.
But if you don't succed on that trick, focus on the silence part.
I wonder if it's possible it has a connection to the "jet blackness" Carlos described, in the mirror in the water incident?
The same jet blackness that eats up the lighter side of the Yin/Yan whorl?
Or is like when you get up to go to the bathroom, turn on the lights, and find the room is filled with sparkling dots, or swirling colors, and if you relax to look at them, blackness covers it over.
Also, you stand up too fast, and your vision goes black.
That's a blood flow thing. Could be the darkroom practice relaxes some muscles, and blood flow alters.
Certainly as the assemblage point moves, all sorts of changes take place in the body.
Good changes. We force our bodies to fit some sort of mold we've picked up.
Clinch the teeth all the time, make fists when upset, hunch the shoulders when arguing.
But even asthma can go away when you reach heightened awareness, as if it were merely bad body posture that got corrected by relaxing.
I don't move much in the darkroom, besides I'm a rational person and I don't over-interpret anything I experience. I will not compare my experience to what I read in CC's books :). So it's probably some kind of disorder in the blood flow to the brain. :)
Unique people is what we need. We're trying to map the unknown, to make it more available to modern day cell phone gazers.
There are SO MANY directions to go with this. I was exploring forks in the road early this morning.
Maybe I'll draw it up.
Bottom line, you need to work hard so that what you perceive is stronger and stronger, until you literally have a tiny being sitting gently on your hand, and you can talk to it.
Then you can answer your own questions. Or it can.
The same thing happens to me, its like a rolling blindness that moves and goes from eye to eye sometimes. It's more than that I think. A few times when I 'focused' on it, it turned into very bright waves moving on repeat in a specific motion.
The brightest one I've ever seen was while lying on my back in the dark, it was coming seemingly from the top of my head and travelling down into my neck. Then repeating over again.
I have no idea what it is, but it's definitely something.