I’m currently trying to find other subs to survey. I’m interested what other schools of thought can offer and how credible they are. So far it’s been abysmal. Take r/shamanism for example, occasionally I find a decent post, like the one I found about shaman sickness. But it seems about 95% of posts on these magic subs are identity politics or dogmatic occult worship or worse it’s harry potter gentrification.
Information on this spectrum is so dislocated. As a programmer I can remember how different things were before and after stackoverflow, but we take it for granted these days, but code is very occult is what I’m saying. Stack exchange is far from perfect though. However, I wonder if sorcery is too subjective to be modernized. Perhaps we could discuss what common ground we have if any to see what solutions software could offer to us as sorcerers?
Personally I feel there is a science behind sorcery or at least the flavor CC designed. Chaos magic might be the only other form of magic that at least puts claims to the test. Really I just want to bring magic out of the dark ages but I don’t think reddit will be that place.
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Asking how we can bring sorcery to modernization with a likely proprietary software sounds a little book deal ish
It's like opening a bakery, just to get a donut?
We have free donuts in here.
Why should someone pay for a donut?
Anytime there's money involved I'm pretty much out. Just can't trust profit motive.
Even with a platform like stack exchange.. or OPs proposed sorcery exchange, it just opens up the ability for big academia to hijack the whole thing and bastardize it for some type of perceived efficiency.
Tink of the web stack, the core html, js, css skills turning into react, nodejs, etc and most newer guys to the game not even able to use the core skills effectively anymore.
What other alternatives to Reddit are you aware of? Mastodon has been brought up, as well as Discord. But Mastodon is essentially a beefed-up private twitter and has key weaknesses such as post/comment length, no Wiki, no Flair-Tags, and only 600,000 users. And I don't know if it's being thoroughly indexed by Google.
Discord is more of a fuller featured chatroom with voice (and video?), and also private. Lidotska created a Discord server earlier this year(?).
Facebook is too ego-centric, and there are apparently already a bunch of Castaneda groups on there already that aren't offering much beyond socialization. But u/danl999 is on there regardless.
Juann does have an Instagram setup with illustrations.
The broad user-base, anonymity, and largely unrestricted (but not unmoderated) public environment are key to Reddit's success at exposing people to new ideas.
And if you're looking to research an analogue to Castaneda you might try Gurdjieff. Your time would be better spent working on inner silence, but almost everyone looks around before they're ready to do so.
Wait what?? Do you want to bring magic back?? In reddit??
You are already in the right place!
Maybe you were reading with the eyes closed?
We need practitioners!! We have an AMAZING path, already proven, that works fast.
Once you start having good results you can focus on your favourite part!
I mean, there are lots of paths to explore, but not enough people working.
One path I've been trying is the "stopping the world" one. It is amazing, since your reality meanings stop making sense.
I reached a "tv mode", in wich there were yellow puffs floating in my house.
We also have "practical magic", wich is moving the assamblage point to produce a specific result, as Dan do while looking through the wall!
Now I am fan of "looking for power all day long". I reached heightened awareness two times while walking in nature!
That Nélida advice leads to Dream the whole day.
At first sorcery seems difficult, impossible or vague. But believe me that it becomes easy and amazing!
I wonder if your yellow, and Lidotskas yellow barrier, aren't just "energy on a horizon"?
I went looking for Lidotskas color, and discovered that translocation produces that color, just before another location solidifies.
It's whitish light like Carlos described, on all surfaces. But behind it is a reddish potential. Possibly a form of energy, like 'dark energy".
When looking through the whitish light, to see the other form of energy behind it, it's yellow.
I never noticed that.
But it's an odd yellow, that requires shifting to the exact same "spot" on the flat surfaces.
Maybe 2 inches behind the wall.
2 inches is 5.08 cm
Can you make a difference between the ugly yellow and a beatiful one? Or do you have them the same?
When I saw the yellow puffs floating in my house it was not ugly at all.
But two nights ago I saw the ugly one between my puffs, and I was not advanced.
The ugly one has a greenish grey tint to it.
I suppose it looks like urine in a toilet bowl that's never been cleaned, so it has crusty greenish stuff all around.
😝
Which book, or maybe a post outlines the idea or technique of 'looking for power all day'?
Left to assumptions I'm guessing it's some kind of forcing silence pretty much all day, observing your surroundings and being in the moment. That's just a guess though.
This didn't get answered? I must have forgotten to hit the reply button.
I think it's largely a trick, to teach you not to go inward.
Just observe every single tiny detail all the time, like a 4 year old looking for change in the sand at the beach.
Never go inside, and start fantasizing.
While you do it, try to "feel" that the internal dialogue is now external, where you are focusing your attention. And shut it off, out there. Not inside.
Then, as you continuously focus your awareness (which is difficult to keep up, because we're used to going inside), look for power specifically.
What is power?
No one can say.
But yesterday I had 50 crows circling around me overhead, screaming. It was me in particular they were screaming at.
That same outdoor walk, a little cloud of smoke flew by, with no obvious cause for it.
I was gazing at a huge tree, looking at the weirdness between the branches, and my gaze fell on something, which turned out to be a humming bird.
One day, I sat down to gaze at the sky, to see if I could find sparkles and darkroom type stuff, and a butterfly noticed me from 200 feet away, flew right over, and circled around for a bit.
But you can even try to "feel" for it, using "bliss" as the measure.
Great answer, thanks! So it's largely externalizing silence. Or rather using the external world as an aide in silence and then seeking the manifestations of 'power'.
Seems doable.
I'll give it a shot. Need to watch that I don't start fantasizing or getting impatient as self importance seems to be one of my favorite things to indulge in. Probably is for everyone though I'd imagine.
Yes!
Juan and I both have high hopes it's the key for people who can't make a darkroom.
But neither of us is a good test subject. We can already get silent.
Can we count on you as an experiment for a while, until you say not?
I even pointed Juan to a woman from Instagram who looks promising.
Our "energy" is imbalanced. Too many men, not enough women.
Which is interesting. Cleargreen is the opposite. Too many women, not enough men.
Men steer the car.
Women control where it actually goes.
Yeah, I'm a dude, but either way I'll give it a try and let you know of any progress.
A guy doing it is just as helpful as women doing it. We need to find how that path would look, if it were someone's primary path.
I think it'll be effective. Back when I watched 'The Celestine Prophecy' I did something very similar and it had a great effect.
I also used to do it at my spot by the water and created a lot of cool sky and horizon light shows.
I'll give it a longer and stronger effort.
Check out my Facebook post on this topic. I realized, this is Stalking from a westerly dreamer's point of view. But darned if I know how to point to a specific post.
https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1783250878500691&id=100004473870769 this one?
Yes, that one!
So when you do it (Zuleica's daytime technique), try to find the "hooks".
In darkness gazing, a puff of purple light is a hook. Cobwebs you can feel in the air is a hook. In fact, most of the hooks are shown in that picture I made for the translocation post. Upper left of this picture:
We NEED those for Zuleica's technique. The reason is, people are lazy bastards.
Absolutely greedy, always wanting a reward, lazy bastards only looking for attention from others.
And they'll make up progress, just to pat themselves on the shoulder.
Cleargreen's Facilitators do that. JD was filling me in on their ideas. They took the magic from Carlos' books, and redid it to be something ordinary, so they could feel proud.
Like the Colorado Carlos post where the guy claimed stopping the world was the same as "be here now".
Of course, when you stop the world you are nowhere at all. Certainly not here, and probably not now.
So sorcery quickly turns into make believe, without honesty guarantees.
In darkroom gazing, you can't fake a brilliant puff of purple light, which can be tossed around and formed into shapes like taffy.
Just can't fake that. And you have to be fully silent to do it. Which ultimately, is the key to all of sorcery.
We need that for Zuleica's technique. things to move the assemblage point, as Juan pointed out.
The technique results in shutting off the internal dialogue enough to loosen the assemblage point.
But we need specific sights or feelings, to help it move the right direction.
I've already seen a few non-fakable things, but I can already get silent so those won't be good for a beginner.
And beginners will barely put in the time to try it out. If they don't get an immediate reward, they'll quit.
We need the "tiny things".
Sparkles in the sky you can get, after doing the technique for a while. Not sparkles you can always see.
But sparkles which require getting good at focusing your attention all the time, while silencing the mind.
Things that come and go, with how well you are doing the technique.
Clouds of smoke moving along side you, with no explanation for why a puff of smoke would be there. By the way, Carlos warned not to let those touch your bare skin.
Animals or insects targeting you in very unusual ways is another thing, but sort of easy to make up.
Still, pay attention. Look at the cover of Taisha's book, where there's a moth flying around over them, while they bury a chest in the ground.
That moth thing is true! That particular one was surely Little Smoke.
But any animal activity is good to note.
Like the 50 crows I had circling over head yesterday, while trying Zuleica's technique. Screaming at me for Tamales.
We need a list of those sorts of things.
Did you know crows love tamales?
I'll let you guys know of anything significant, constant or thematic.
Probably will be a bit of time. Short of a lens flare looking thing in the dark room everything I see is still 'white'.
Very very active and sometimes has a face, but not colorful.
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Ultimately, that's what we want to find.
The whitish light on the horizon, or on all surfaces.
But it has to form "videos" for you when you gaze into it.
So no cheating is possible with that light.
Although it's easy to believe you can see it from the start.
Should be a trip, looking forward to it.
I'll see what I can find.
Sounds like the "book deal mind" to me. That's where you don't actually want to learn.
Instead, you want to be famous for having revolutionized learning.
But actually learning? Probably not your interest, is my guess.
But stack exchange part is encouraging!
I'll use a programmers analogy to answer your question! Not the question you wanted answered, but the one you should have asked.
You're like the guy who's writing his first program, and you keep hearing him ask if he should use assembly, forth, basic, or turtle logo.
And which computer should he use? The latest IBM PC (5MHz) comes with a cassette loader and it's only $5000.
(It's back in the 80s).
The actual programmers he comes to ask, give him advice. They of course program on dedicated equipment, because there are no actual useful personal computers around yet.
But they can't help notice, when he comes to talk to them, that he never does anything but talk.
You'd at least expect him to ask about the print statement in his chosen language.
He's a nerd groupy...
Another guy, his friend, is locked in his garage programming all day on an AIM 64. With 16 digit display!
It's also his first program.
Which guy do you think will actually become a programmer?
The limitations are frequently what drives innovation, discovery and determination.That and dedicated time.
It sounds like the OP is thinking about some next-gen platform or tech that maybe doesn't exist yet....but soon will.
What you mentioned reminds me of the series “Halt and Catch Fire” ha. Even Carlos managed to do what he did with a simple notebook and pen. I suppose your argument that limitations work in our favor is valid which I’ve always believed to be true.
Carlos is in fact the opposite of what I tell people. Not only did he get a book deal, but it was one of the most successful in history. He was on the cover of Time magazine, and launched 50% of the hippy movement's justifications for bad behavior.
But he had skilled sorcerers teaching him, behind the scenes.
If you focus on other people while trying to learn magic, you will never learn any. Not any real magic that is.
That's because, to do real magic you have to get rid of the concept of "self".
Self is a little dictator, and he doesn't like magic. It's against his training.
And self just loves attention from other people. He lives for it.
I always enjoy your comments on other subs because it’s all kumbaya until you show up. That’s what appealed to me when I first started reading His books because they assaulted my sense of self and continuity. Most people hate that but few do seldom have the courage to admit deep down they aren’t the unique snowflakes they think they are. As they say if you want to make an omelette you have to crack a few eggs.
On a related note, I’ve been dying to ask this question on this sub, but I’ll start with you. Did Carlos talk about symbolic death at all in his private classes and did you have one personally? I keep asking myself that very question because although CC mentioned DJ’s symbolic death but I don’t recall with certainty that he himself had one. The phenomenon is well known within shamanism lore but is that when the “self” dies? La Gorda talked a lot about the human mold and becoming a “complete” awareness but I’m not sure that the two concepts are related.
Personally I can only say that one day after my years I spent in isolation the world when dark quite literally and can’t remember the weeks that followed, I just remember waking up at my dinner table except I wasn’t asleep and reality had lost all definition including my sense of self—everything was literally wavy like I was under water when I focused my attention on something and other people did feel quite like phantom traveling around me. I knew I wasn’t mad but the anhedonia was a fog for sure, it’s as if I had to relearn life from scratch.
I never heard him talk about it, but it is mentioned in his books.
Wait... One of the women had a pleasing dream, in which she was already dead.
Carlos liked it, so he explained that "dead dreaming" was a good thing to look for.
But he didn't suggest, you should dig yourself a grave, sit on the edge, and pretend you are going to shoot yourself in the head.
Something suggested by a angry male who passed through here. Seeing all the magic being practiced in her, that's what he came up with to add to the collection. Never actually tried to learn the real thing.
Unfortunately, this is something "shamans" out there can sell for cash. So you have people sincerely interested in learning magic, who never get any. They just get placebo after placebo. Workshops, techniques, but no actual magic.
For that reason, "symbolic death" is a sore spot with me. Because it's the enemy. It stops people from actually getting to work.
However, don Juan does mention it.
I suggest the only way to really get rid of yourself (die) is to learn to shut off the internal dialogue, and then stop the world.
And it's a lot more fun! When you try to stop the world, you can "bounce off" that. You can end up reliving the past of one of the sorcerers in Carlos' books (while awake, I'm not talking about a bad dream here).
Or (most likely), you can "translocate".
But if you get lucky (super silent), the world simply goes away, and you find yourself in a blazing fire of lines of amber and yellow light, stretching into infinity. In those trillions of lines of light, you can find "bundles".
If you gaze into a bundle, you get sucked into another world in which you can remain.
Doesn't that sound a lot more fun than playing cowboy and Indian with a "shaman", and pretending you got shot to death? For $1500.
Yes, the human form! Good point.
I have to remind myself about this periodically.
You can learn to visit God. It's not even difficult.
That's the "mold of man". Everything that humans aspire to be.
In Jewish mysticism, it was already present when God created the big bang. It was there beside him as a companion.
But when you perceive it, it sure looks like God. You can even ask it for something. And, I can tell you from experience, if you don't remember you can ask for something, he'll remind you.
But the result of the "mold of man" in humans, is probably "the human form".
There's an interesting reference in the bible to God complaining to Satan.
Carlos had me study the bible, which extended into me finding it necessary to study religions and magic in general, in order to understand the bible better.
God complains to Satan, "I made you the full pattern!"
Meaning, how come you can't live like a nice guy, with all the gifts I gave you, when others are only partial pattern?
(Jewish mysticism is along the same lines with us, except they lied like dogs.)
In fact, losing the human form is even beyond stopping the world. You'll be stopping the world for a decade before you manage to get rid of the human form. You can find that in the books, where once in a while Carlos gets close, long after he's been able to stop the world.
I believe, the human form is the traces of our internal dialogue, but embedded in our physicality. Our body has been trained to move (exist) according to the dialogue we were given.
If you shut off the internal dialogue, your assemblage point drifts, and reality changes.
However, it's still "you" visiting other worlds.
Getting rid of that "you" completely simply requires a lot of time, learning sorcery and being silent. There's no technique to do it. It's the end result of the practice.
But imagine if we could discover a technique to do it! It's not impossible, if we gain enough people practicing.
It would probably be a horrible experience though, to have it removed all at once. But THAT would be a symbolic death worth paying the $1500.
That's not uncommon. I experienced it at a workshop.
And Carlos spoke about it.
The eyes have 3 modes of functioning. Aside from the fact that the left eye sees wavy, and the right bubbly. Or something like that. I only saw the wavy part.
We're stuck in the horrible mode our eyes can be in. Perceiving social reality.
But they can also learn to perceive the second attention. In that case, they "borrow" the eyes of the dreaming double. To some extent. Percentage determines how cool it is.
Then, they can switch over to "seeing energy". It's a mode we always have running, but our mind blocks it.
At that level you see the emanations themselves, awareness lighting them up, and containers around collections of that awareness (beings).
But you can cheat! See a "preview".
"Seeing energy on a Horizon" is a preview of the switch over to seeing only energy.
You have so much to tell, Dan. I had no idea Carlos used the bible in his private classes, but I’m not surprised either—can you indulge my curiosity and talk a little more about that? Over the past year I’ve been researching the Abrahamic holy books and dead sea scrolls to answer a few questions that came up last year when I was pulled out of a dream and was told a few things concerning the future (all but one thing have come to pass).
I’m currently entertaining the idea of writing a short illustrated book that would be like a hitchhiker’s guide to sorcery based mostly on what CC taught with a few other elements from other schools of thought. I have a decade of dabbling with CC’s techniques and can corroborate much of what he and you have talked about. But I clearly know nothing about CC’s inner circle, in fact I only know of the negative rumors that idiots keep calling his “legacy”. If you, Dan, or anyone on this sub reading this (mods included) are interested in collaborating, please message me. I think it would be awesome if this sub could distill CC’s works and knowledge from private classes into a field “manual” without frills. But I understand we all have busy schedules, myself including, so no pressure if you can’t or simply aren’t interested. Basically I would just set up a simple git repo and invite whomever may be interested to a Jira project to coordinate things. There wouldn’t be a timetable for this project, it’s just something fun to do I suppose, ha.
I've spoken about the details of private classes many times. It's all in here.
Carlos didn't exactly "use" the bible. He had some problem with Ellis, and a few other "budding Catholics".
Carlos was also a "reformed" catholic, and it still loomed over him as you can read in the books.
I suspect some of the anti-inorganic being sentiment in here is a hangover from being a Christian.
Carlos used to make fun of the concept of "heaven", imitating someone walking around in Togo for eternity, with a phony smile on their face. He pointed out, you have to take tiny steps in heaven.
He would say, "Nothing ever changes there, forever? What would I do there? That's a dead world!"
However, I've seen heaven 4 times and it was nothing like that. One time I even met someone there, whom I'd never seen before, and then ran into them at a line in a store the next day.
My attitude about things is, "it's all good." Demons, religion, Sees candy. Reni is afraid of sugar, because Carlos used it as a corrective measure with the Chacmools. He was tricky that way.
For example, to make sure he could get access to the bathroom, with 3 "Chacmools" all wanting to use it the same time, he convinced Kylie water was dangerous to her. They had to sit on the toilet and sponge bath themselves.
The sunday class women even got excited about the idea, and there were rumors some wormlike beings could crawl up your…
Well…
Cholita talks like that too. But darned if I ever get to watch!
Bottom line: don't indulge in denying yourself things. It’s a placebo. Like believing Carlos is waiting to guide us into the big dome after death.
Especially don’t work up phony anger or indignation when your sorcery inventory items don’t align to reality. You only do that to show how virtuous you are and get attention for your “self”.
When studying a religion, BELIEVE it. Otherwise there’s no way to know what they’re doing to themselves.
In fact, just now while practicing Zuleica's daytime gazing I noticed a very long fence in the path I was walking looked surprisingly like the road to hell Cholita brought me to. As I glanced along it, in near perfect silence, I saw a being running along behind it.
I got to thinking, I haven't visited hell enough yet. The Hindus love to do that, and then make themselves a tasty book deal (See Muktananda as I recall).
So Carlos spoke about the bible, mostly because it was a barrier to getting his students to actually get some work done.
He brought Ellis up to the front of the class next to him, and started to joke with her about the book, “Sex Lives of the Popes”. Apparently there are infant corpses in the catacombs. And nuns were up for grabs.
He put Ellis up to writing a book to expose the Jews as converted white Europeans, and not natural Jewish descendants.
It probably wasn’t true, but Carlos and Ellis chuckled about it.
In fact, the majority of Caucasians are descendant from Iberian Jews, one way or the other. They were forced to convert to Christianity at the point of a sword.
One of my little nieces is a direct Iberian Jew descendant. And she's as white as they come. White, but "woke".
The Iberian Jews were sorcerers who had big ships! What could be cooler? Likely they visited the sorcerers on our continents, at least a few times.
For a week or two, Carlos kept giving lectures about “Bishops”. I suppose Ellis, or someone else, pointed out some Bishop had said something or other, and he wanted to battle that back down.
Same as I do in here, when someone says something potentially harmful to others. As much as I don’t like it, I have to go fight to correct that information.
Carlos did the same.
In his ongoing rant against the church, he finally told us, looking right into my eyes, “Really study the bible! Really!!!”
Somewhere before that he’d been pointing out what nonsense it was, if you read it honestly.
So I did.
Carlos had taught us from the beginning, that we needed to “Jump”.
Jumping meant, you got off your lazy self-pity butt, and took him up on something.
He’d give out assignments that had to be done that day, or it was too late.
But never could he get anyone to do it. Once he suggested we walk to San Diego, and that it would “transform” us.
And it would have! I now understand that. You were beckoning intent, which would then own you a really cool intent gift. A single intent gift of that nature, is enough to change your mind about the world.
Carlos was setting us up for magic, with that recommendation, as surely as preparing the smoking mixture got Little Smoke to give Carlos some wonderful lessons in the second attention.
After he suggested that, and class was just ending, I got out my credit cards to show the women. The men had already left, mumbling they had something they had to do that evening.
But a group of 3 hot young women surrounded me, to see if I was going to do it. Cholita was not among them.
“Sure, let’s go!”, I told them. All the while thinking about hotel arrangements along the way. I’d already been in a hotel or two with some of them.
But before you get the wrong idea, Carlos made me celibate, and I obeyed.
The women couldn’t go. They would lose their place to live. A boyfriend or husband was keeping close tabs, and didn’t like them hanging out with Carlos.
For good reason. Carlos separated Felix from his woman. Victoria was it? Cholita told me more, but I don’t recall. Cholita’s bottom line was, Felix didn’t really mind. He could get a newer model. Maybe one with money.
And Victoria was a rolling stone looking for a “spiritual man”. Later she snagged a "Rinpoche", and got him dethroned when the woman who was hosting him threw him out on hearing Victoria had had sex with him.
Cholita was sleeping in the room next to the Rinpoche. Cholita is a rolling stone too, but mostly in search of a place to live for free.
But my memory of names is faulty, so if Victoria doesn't like this, please come tell us what really happened in private classes! We'd all love it.
I'd like to hear your version of Cleargreen Christmas party gift exchanges! Cholita's version seems a little tilted in her favor.
But she tells a fun story about her mini-skirt and fabulous boots, which didn't motivate the men because they weren't "nearly as randy as I expected that day".
Anyway, we passed on that “jump” assignment, involving walking all the way to San Diego from LA.
And all of the others he offered us over the years.
Carlos only got one woman to “jump”, one time. Otherwise, none I knew of.
But when it was a long-term assignment, like studying the bible or being celibate, I always obeyed. That way Carlos sort of “owed me,” meaning, intent owed me.
As far as projects, I can’t collaborate with anyone. I’m here under rules. Which is not as mysterious as it sounds. Techno could explain them to you, and he never even heard them. It’s just obvious. I’m trying to restore Carlos’ reputation.
It's a lot of fu...ing work!
And I get beat up daily for my efforts.
I have to hold the hands of sniveling attention seekers who have zero chance of every putting in any work, but insist on hanging around anyway.
I can’t afford anyone to point to something and say, “That’s why he’s doing it!!!” Not after all this work.
There has to be no obvious reason for me to be in here other than what it appears to be.
But anyone can use anything I post, for anything they like. As long as they don’t make it appear I endorsed it, or make any benefit from it. And please don’t change anything.
The Jehovah’s witnesses printed up a phony copy of King James, and modified a passage or two, so they could trick people going door to door.
Don’t do that…
If you have any specific questions about classes or what I know of the inner circle, just ask.
Carlos had some left-over people hanging on. He was loyal, and always repaid debts.
But if you are also that type of person, as I am, you know very well. If you are kind to some people, they take advantage. In the end, they force you to be mean to them, so they can pretend to get their feelings hurt and blame you for the separation.
There was a tired, depressed woman, perhaps in her 50s, long gray hair, living in one of the little apartments surrounding his picnic yard at the back of his compound in LA.
Carlos did some stalking, and I was assigned the task of “wealthy buyer”. He had Corey as the powerful lawyer, and Felix as the tall handsome house boss.
He told us to come to his compound at a certain time.
He showed me the fine wood picnic area in the back, which was expansive, and pointed out the big stone paver or concrete covered area in the middle where they could hold infinity theater, and even pulled out the wooden drawers near the tables to show me they were filled with shiny forks, knives, and spoons. He seemed to insist I lift up one of the forks, and examine it to see if it had any water spots. He kept looking over my shoulder at one of the apartments, which I believed were all empty. The entire compound was surrounded by bushes and trees rising up high enough, that it was completely private back there. Took up maybe the space of 3 lots of normal LA homes of that area. It was on a corner too, on a street with a suitable name for a sorcerer.
Then he led us over to one of the little apartments (there were perhaps 3-6), and had me shake the hand of the woman living in there. It seemed like we’d gotten her out of bed, in the middle of the day.
I sure hope my memory of that event is wrong. I believe someone later suggested it was Joanie. But my father also possibly got mixed up with Joanie at one point, so I have too many vague memories connected to her and Morongo and UC System anthropologists in general.
At any rate, Carlos was dying.
The woman had to find another place to live. I suppose he didn’t want to just toss her out, so he tried to convince her we were buying the house.
Human form may be related to hunan drive to imitate other humans, "mimetic drive" of Rene Girard.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimesis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/René_Girard
Mimesis
Mimesis (; Ancient Greek: μίμησις, mīmēsis) is a term used in literary criticism and philosophy that carries a wide range of meanings, including imitatio, imitation, nonsensuous similarity, receptivity, representation, mimicry, the act of expression, the act of resembling, and the presentation of the self.The original Ancient Greek term mīmēsis (μίμησις) derives from mīmeisthai (μιμεῖσθαι, 'to imitate'), itself coming from mimos (μῖμος, 'imitator, actor'). In ancient Greece, mīmēsis was an idea that governed the creation of works of art, in particular, with correspondence to the physical world understood as a model for beauty, truth, and the good. Plato contrasted mimesis, or imitation, with diegesis, or narrative. After Plato, the meaning of mimesis eventually shifted toward a specifically literary function in ancient Greek society, and its use has changed and been reinterpreted many times since.One of the best-known modern studies of mimesis—understood in literature as a form of realism—is Erich Auerbach's Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, which opens with a famous comparison between the way the world is represented in Homer's Odyssey and the way it appears in the Bible.
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I'm always on the lookout for like minded subreddits & users to redirect here and check things out. I estimate it's been under 15 or so as of now.
There are some really obscure ones that are hard to stumble upon! And those likely have the most promise.
Going public smells like religious trouble. And what for? Even this subreddit is already highly suspicious. I can't tell the difference between users Juann2323 and danl999, could be the same person. I'll never know who is who. Online participation can't be energetically engaging, although reddit without the memes is not as bad as those sentimental spin-offs on Facebook.
Either way, the sorcery fundamentals would have to remain the same; silence remains the hard earned currency in the dark-sea market of perceptions. It's not like AI code can solve that hurdle. There will never be an impeccability app for download or a pill for an unbending intent.
I hope I wasn’t alluding to what you are in denial. I was talking with Dan and I think the best way to go about things would be collaborating on perhaps a series of short manuals that distill what CC taught and the progress this community has and is making. So in other words I think something beyond a wiki would be helpful.
oh, i see what you mean, yeah, if the series of short instructions could spur more cc fans to pick up practice instead of just reading and talking about sorcery then that would be amazing. we could all benefit from bigger consensus, more hands-on collaboration is needed, although i get the feeling it's not the lack of instruction / concise techniques that prevent people from living the sorcerer's dream. they still think that silence is absence of noise, positive thinking and a healthy lifestyle where neo-esotericism pretty much gobbled them up. they believe that "correct internal dialogue" is sorcery. good luck beating that out of their self-reflection.
having said that, your manuals would be neat to have and i'll be happy to use them!
Inner silence is very elusive until you mastered the four moods of stalking, ruthlessness in particular. Most think inner silence is meditation but it isn’t.
I personally need to do more research and reading before I can say what medium will be right for this project. The bottom line is we all agree that we need more seers to guide the way.
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I’m currently trying to find other subs to survey. I’m interested what other schools of thought can offer and how credible they are. So far it’s been abysmal. Take r/shamanism for example, occasionally I find a decent post, like the one I found about shaman sickness. But it seems about 95% of posts on these magic subs are identity politics or dogmatic occult worship or worse it’s harry potter gentrification.
Information on this spectrum is so dislocated. As a programmer I can remember how different things were before and after stackoverflow, but we take it for granted these days, but code is very occult is what I’m saying. Stack exchange is far from perfect though. However, I wonder if sorcery is too subjective to be modernized. Perhaps we could discuss what common ground we have if any to see what solutions software could offer to us as sorcerers?
Personally I feel there is a science behind sorcery or at least the flavor CC designed. Chaos magic might be the only other form of magic that at least puts claims to the test. Really I just want to bring magic out of the dark ages but I don’t think reddit will be that place.