Addicted to the J curve

It is better to start in the morning. That way there is a better chance that by the end of the day you will be there.

Sometimes I try to think about it with reason, but I can't quite understand what I'm doing!

Before I was making the puffs with more intense colors. Now I hardly go into the room, it is all practice during the day.

Sometimes I get it faster. Hopefully in 1 hour I am enjoying the juice of the gods.

It is almost a necessity! My body asks for it.

When I have a stomach ache, heightened awareness fixes it.

If I'm anxious, tense, stressed, fix it too.

And it order everything in my life. Decisions become crystal clear.

It's like plugging into a socket and receiving surges of energy from the universe.

But it also isolates you. You don't need anything or anyone. The universe offers you everything, now.

The days that I can't move the assemblage point are hard! That happens when you decide to get away from suffering. At some point you realize that you don't need it; you're better off without it.

The more discipline you accumulate, the more quiet moments there are. Until silence occupies much of the day!

At that point it is almost all pure enjoyment. But sometimes, you are still carried away by everyday life.

Maybe learning sorcery can be called "stop living with words in the head".

I can say I'm in love with sorcery.

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u/danl999 4 points 2021-01-08 23:32

Try the tongue thing out for me.

It worked amazingly well!

In the darkroom, doing normal playing around with colors.

And then, at one point I realized I could enter into lucid dreaming directly, as long as I kept the tongue there.

And it worked! It was so easy, I proved it myself just to be sure, by looking at my hands over and over again.

6 fingers. 7 once! Which hand had too many kept switching.

Who knows if it will work again, but if it does, it means you can do waking dreaming, and then lucid dreaming also, virtually all night long.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2021-01-09 00:01

So it may almost be like a switch! The tongue 😛

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u/danl999 4 points 2021-01-09 00:14

No, there's a delay on it working, and it keeps working for a while after you release it.

It's an intent delay I suppose. Around 10 seconds.

My guess: it helps keep lucidity in dreaming, the Emissary seems more talkative when you are doing that, and in dreaming awake it brings out the dreaming double faster.

I had an offer to pass through the bedroom wall last night, once I did it for 10 seconds. A swirl of purple and black stretched out past the door, and a hole opened up in the middle.

I'm not sure it would work for a beginner, so I don't recommend people start pressing their tongue, the way Zen people like to flair their nostrils.

It'll become a barrier if we start behaving like the meditation peddlers and their naïve and overly patient customers.

I sure hope that some day there isn't a "church of Castaneda" whos members go around pressing the top of their mouth with their tongue!

But I'm afraid, that fate may be inevitable.

People just want to be "fixed" without doing any work.

Just believe this, and now you're superior to everyone else.

Pretend, but you have millions of others who will agree you are not pretending.

Even when you are.

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u/Powerful_Theory464 1 points 2021-01-09 01:23

How can i become aware in dreaming? any tips?

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u/Leading-Reserve-4585 2 points 2021-01-10 15:34

"sure hope that some day there isn't a "church of Castaneda" whos members go around pressing the top of their mouth with their tongue!"

This has happened in Chinese qigong and internal martial arts...

Virtually every system asks their practioners to press the tongue to the roof of their mouth. Usually no explanation is given it is just a tradition passed on from teacher to student. Occasionally it is explained as a switch that connects the governing and conception vessels.

The governing vessel runs up the spine from the perineum to the head. The conception vessel runs down the front centerline of the body from the head to the perineum.

Combined they form the "microcosmic orbit." It runs a path similar to the J curve, but forms a circle.

I know this is a "drop all other systems" sub, but I thought this might be of interest.

I love what is going on here. I've begun darkroom practice too.

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2021-01-09 18:44

I noticed that Carlos' advice!

I realized I did something similar when I tried to move all the way to heightened awareness quickly.

Something like a pressure on the back of the mouth and something on the nape as well.

Maybe I was just focusing the dreaming attention?

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u/danl999 4 points 2021-01-09 18:52

I don't know what it is, but I tried it again last night and had spectacular results.

Too good in fact. I used up my time, and didn't get a chance to carry it further into lucid dreaming before the sun came up.

(Sun up, and Cholita reclaims the house.)

I believe it's nearly inevitable to do lucid dreaming all night long, the way Carlos seems to have done in some accounts. For example, that one where he mentions the tongue.

It sounds like he spent endless hours with the dreaming emissary.

Speaking of which, if you are stuck teaching, I've discovered the ideal answer to the question of whether inorganic beings are dangerous.

Yes, they are. And you should plan to be tortured to death by them, and then held captive in hell.

Ok? Now, do you want to learn or not?

Any other answer and people keep whining forever.

Why?

Because they aren't really worried about that. It's an attention seeking device.

Like, "Oh daddy, there's a spider in my room!!! Come save me."

Once you take away the attention potential, they don't use it anymore.

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u/calixto_mooneeeee 1 points 2021-01-10 10:28

when I tried to move all the way to heightened awareness quickly.

So what is your technique to get into heightened awareness?

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2021-01-10 13:53

It is mostly silence. You need to practice stopping the internal dialogue until you figure out how to "move".

Of course something more is done. The J curve has some indicators while you are moving. Like the colors evolution, or some enlightenment sensations.

But imagine you are entering in a dense jungle, in wich you don't know the path. And you only have your hands.

You need to spend hours and hours until you figure out wich is the best way.

Once you know it, it becomes easier and easier, until you can walk it with the eyes closed!

Don Juan said sorcerers "Intent" the assamblage point movements. That's why we can't really say how we do it; it can't be understood.

But it is a fact that silence skills are improved. Just put enough work on it and you will learn it.

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u/calixto_mooneeeee 1 points 2021-01-10 14:09

You're talking about the silence while darkness gazing?

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2021-01-10 14:17

I've learned to silence the mind in darkroom. The puffs of color work great.

Once you find them, you can follow them until you find a dream, wich means you are in heightened awareness or close.

This is a very accurate picture Dan did: /media/_videos/instagram_b26616503e25.jpg

Now I can do it on daylight, without entering to the room. Mostly silence and some sensatios, or weird things in my visual field.

But we can't recommend doing only daylight gazing until more of you succed. By the moment, darkroom is very tested, and works fast!

Keep in mind that moving the assamblage point is 80% a result of having absolutely no words in the head.

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u/lidotska 1 points 2021-01-09 14:31

Yes it really is like a cheat-code to get out of all the suffering and human concerns 😎

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2021-01-09 18:41

And that is even more true if you are a cenobite. You just need too much pain and too much pleasure; no human suffering!