Was thinking on trying binaural beets for darkroom.
Asking if anyone has opinions on the correct brain wave frequencies?
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u/CruzWayne
2 points2021-01-30 01:55
I found the sounds on the hemisync tapes pretty good but not tried in darkroom, more trying to catch the moment between waking and sleeping. No binaural beats I’ve tried come close but not looked much. mynoise.net and app is pretty cool, I use it for work sometimes, the ferry to cape clear is great.
edit: 7-7.5 hertz is what they say in the CIA pdf, it’s an interesting read.
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u/lurklops
2 points2021-01-30 03:27
Reading up on it, it seems 7Hz is for causing anger, anxiety, etc. Also linked to epileptic fits in mice. They say it's actually pretty dangerous.
Slightly more readable version there. According to the officer who took the training and prepared the report, the earth’s electromagnetic field resonates at that frequency, which is why it facilitates astral projection. The tapes are to help sync the frequency of brainwaves between the hemispheres, leading to a deep meditative state. I’m not nearly fluent enough in science to know if his explanations hold.
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u/lurklops
2 points2021-01-30 04:24
Interesting stuff, also if it was that beneficial I can see why the powers that be would tell us they're harmful.
I guess it's another do at your own risk thing. I'd be curious to hear the outcome. I'll probably try it out myself too.
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u/monkeyguy999
2 points2021-01-31 08:51
I used to use it for pre study at school. Listen reading a entertaining book for 30 or so. then right into study.
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u/lurklops
1 points2021-01-31 17:35
I can see it. Like a quicker form of meditation to set up a mind state.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 22:46
Yup, Brains frequency following response.
Weird but useful feature of the noggin.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 08:50
Think of it like putting two frequencies into different ears. Your brain makes another one that sounds like its internal. Binaural
Even found th eboard for my old shaper image one. Can do some cheap glassess or such now
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u/CruzWayne
1 points2021-01-30 04:28
From the littlefield link: Seven hertz is also the average frequency of the brain’s alpha rhythms; thus this frequency has been described as dangerous but also relaxing.
From dictionary: noun. a pattern of slow brain waves (alpha waves ) in normal persons at rest with closed eyes, thought by some to be associated with an alert but daydreaming mind.
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u/lurklops
2 points2021-01-30 04:39
I've been on 4.5hz for about 8 minutes and my hands are tingling. Breathing out sounds awesome, the sound of the exhale gets hooked into the 4.5 rhythm and sounds like 'shew shew shew shew shew'. Kinda trippy but fun.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 22:47
I was thinking theta. But will try em all. Step by step.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-01-30 16:43
You have to get special headphones to get that low of a bass frequency. Most don't go below 20 hertz because the range of human hearing is about 20Hz-20KHz. Anything below that is more felt than heard.
Morris (1991) says: "For example, if the individual listens to a tone with the frequency of 440 Hz in one ear and another tone of 444 Hz in the other ear, a binaural beat of 4 Hz will be produced.”
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-01-30 18:32
Oh wow! That's a new one to me! So 770 Hz in one ear and 777 Hz in the other will produce the magic 7 Hz then.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 08:55
yep. I was wondering if you can get a bit more complicated.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-01-31 12:49
That's as technical as I can get with this. Just going by what CruzWayne submitted above. It's may be wrong!
Math was never my strong suit.
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u/CruzWayne
1 points2021-01-31 13:11
More from the pdf:
The delta pattern (0.5 to 4 Hz) is associated with sleep, the theta pattern (4 to 8 Hz) with deep states of meditation, the alpha pattern (8 to 12 Hz) with relaxation, and the beta pattern (12 to 30 Hz) with concentration. What Hemi-Sync is apparently able to do is to create the possibility of attaining any one of these states of consciousness by varying the frequencies of the pure tones delivered to each ear, as well as by varying the differences between the two frequencies.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 22:51
I have all their stuff. But would need to run it through something to get the frequencies. How they mix it into word commands. Which is what they do.
Maybe found a new use for my old emotive bluetooth EGG.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 08:54
Thats what I have read. Of course that bring up the whole 440 and 444 Hx conspiracy.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 08:53
Yeah. I've got some old monitor headphones that do it. If I can get them working.
Wondering what my grados do.
Good point techno. Not sure I have anything to check with. Maybe a sound card? My tektronics is old and does not go high.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 22:48
This is where I was considering using very nice speakers with headphones. But would rather have some good studio ones that can do it.
Theoretically you should be able to use example: 100hz and 107hz to arrive at the correct one. Then you need to figure out how fast the following response is. And change things for that.
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u/monkeyguy999
1 points2021-01-31 02:04
I make my own. Put in the variables. Don't trust others.
Sometime to music...etc
I'lll check out your recommendations.
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u/jamjaljali
2 points2021-01-30 03:58
I recommend the following Youtube channel for free binaural beats sound.
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I found the sounds on the hemisync tapes pretty good but not tried in darkroom, more trying to catch the moment between waking and sleeping. No binaural beats I’ve tried come close but not looked much. mynoise.net and app is pretty cool, I use it for work sometimes, the ferry to cape clear is great.
edit: 7-7.5 hertz is what they say in the CIA pdf, it’s an interesting read.
Reading up on it, it seems 7Hz is for causing anger, anxiety, etc. Also linked to epileptic fits in mice. They say it's actually pretty dangerous.
https://littlefield.co/the-psychoacoustic-effect-of-infrasonic-sonic-and-ultrasonic-frequencies-within-non-lethal-cf05e1fd8673
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/NSA-RDP96X00790R000100020004-2.pdf page 6
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https://coolwisdombooks.com/interesting-cia-gateway-studies-of-hemi-sync-from-the-80s/
Slightly more readable version there. According to the officer who took the training and prepared the report, the earth’s electromagnetic field resonates at that frequency, which is why it facilitates astral projection. The tapes are to help sync the frequency of brainwaves between the hemispheres, leading to a deep meditative state. I’m not nearly fluent enough in science to know if his explanations hold.
Interesting stuff, also if it was that beneficial I can see why the powers that be would tell us they're harmful.
I guess it's another do at your own risk thing. I'd be curious to hear the outcome. I'll probably try it out myself too.
I used to use it for pre study at school. Listen reading a entertaining book for 30 or so. then right into study.
I can see it. Like a quicker form of meditation to set up a mind state.
Yup, Brains frequency following response.
Weird but useful feature of the noggin.
Think of it like putting two frequencies into different ears. Your brain makes another one that sounds like its internal. Binaural
Even found th eboard for my old shaper image one. Can do some cheap glassess or such now
From the littlefield link: Seven hertz is also the average frequency of the brain’s alpha rhythms; thus this frequency has been described as dangerous but also relaxing.
From dictionary: noun. a pattern of slow brain waves (alpha waves ) in normal persons at rest with closed eyes, thought by some to be associated with an alert but daydreaming mind.
I've been on 4.5hz for about 8 minutes and my hands are tingling. Breathing out sounds awesome, the sound of the exhale gets hooked into the 4.5 rhythm and sounds like 'shew shew shew shew shew'. Kinda trippy but fun.
I was thinking theta. But will try em all. Step by step.
You have to get special headphones to get that low of a bass frequency. Most don't go below 20 hertz because the range of human hearing is about 20Hz-20KHz. Anything below that is more felt than heard.
7 Hz or thereabouts is supposed to be the frequency of the brainwave produced, the sounds themselves aren’t at that frequency. From this pdf: http://garcia-aranda.com/eng/wp-content/pdf/Subject4_PerformanceBL.pdf
Oh wow! That's a new one to me! So 770 Hz in one ear and 777 Hz in the other will produce the magic 7 Hz then.
yep. I was wondering if you can get a bit more complicated.
That's as technical as I can get with this. Just going by what CruzWayne submitted above. It's may be wrong!
Math was never my strong suit.
More from the pdf:
I have all their stuff. But would need to run it through something to get the frequencies. How they mix it into word commands. Which is what they do.
Maybe found a new use for my old emotive bluetooth EGG.
Thats what I have read. Of course that bring up the whole 440 and 444 Hx conspiracy.
Yeah. I've got some old monitor headphones that do it. If I can get them working.
Wondering what my grados do.
Good point techno. Not sure I have anything to check with. Maybe a sound card? My tektronics is old and does not go high.
This is where I was considering using very nice speakers with headphones. But would rather have some good studio ones that can do it.
Theoretically you should be able to use example: 100hz and 107hz to arrive at the correct one. Then you need to figure out how fast the following response is. And change things for that.
I make my own. Put in the variables. Don't trust others.
Sometime to music...etc
I'lll check out your recommendations.
I recommend the following Youtube channel for free binaural beats sound.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmP8ByqBA1wMs1pds2PQnlw
Thanks Jam!