Since I am kinda young, i was just wondering.
Does one become a better sorcerer over time.
Does one become a better dreamer over time, a better stalker.
Basically my question is if one actually gains energy or personal power automaticaly over time or not.
I just know that i have been gaining energy and personal power over time but that is because I am in my teen ages. Now as I get older I feel like progress on the path of knowledge is slowing down.
If before i felt I was changing for the better every day, now i feel the same. Is this the fixation of the AP or is it just what happens to everyone?
Is it my fault that i am not changing? Am I getting worse as a sorcerer?
Will I get naturaly better as i grow up or will i remain mostly the same?
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Young age means, more energy. Older means less energy.
Carlos used to say, everyone is senile by their mid 20s.
I've had Taiwanese Daoist's ask me to teach them, recognizing that sorcery in this form is pure, and the one they have is impotent.
I had to tell them to forget it. They were over 65 and hadn't put in any time so far, in even a simple meditation system that works. They'll fall asleep trying to learn sorcery.
No energy left.
The questions you ask indicate to me, you aren't actually doing real work.
You're only thinking about sorcery.
It's like a person asking, "If I clean my house, will I like it better? Will my friends come to visit more often? Will it really get cleaner over time?"
That person is not cleaning their house.
A person who is actually cleaning their house would ask questions like, "Shit! How do you get kitten pee smell out of the rug??? And that built up grease on the stove vent system. What takes that stuff off without hours of rubbing and hundreds of rags?"
(Answer: Cholita)
But you're young. So you might decide to actually work at some point in the future.
In the occult magic practice, the most powerful attribute is virginity. Then is the ability to stay concentrated for prolonged periods of time and go into alpha and theta waves without much hassle.
Better answer:
You learn sorcery by working like a dog. No other method works.
And if you want to progress, you have to keep working like a dog.
You never get to rest.
You don't get better with age. You get worse.
Unless you push it even harder.
You're at the point where it's the easiest.
Each year, it'll get harder.
To start up that is.
Dan, as I understand it Carlos castaneda was born in 1925. By the time he started college he was almost 40(going by the Wikipedia) so that would mean he got a pretty late start in all this. Am I correct?
He died in 1998, and was around 72-74. That's born in 1926-24.
So yes.
I suppose he was 43 when I first encountered him, and maybe even 40 if he went on that dig to Tukelota. I have pics, but I'm afraid to look.
They're right behind me, in a box of my dead father's old stuff.
It gives me hope. I'm not that young anymore either.
One advantage of being older is, you will eventually be able to sleep as long as you like, but don't actually need much.
That can make it easier not to blank out or fall asleep, or not want to practice because you are too tired.
So young helps, but young people are terribly lazy.
I've known several 16 year olds who were jazzed to learn sorcery, but never got around to putting in the time.
But I also knew an old daoist who wanted me to speed him up, because he was in danger of a stroke.
I told him I couldn't unless he was willing to sleep 12 hours a day, because he'd just fall asleep.
I believe he's still laying in a hospital in Taiwan after 4 years, in a coma.
His wife keeps him alive to get the social security benefits.
My problem is sleep. I barely get 7 hours as it is. And if I get less one day then I'm wrecked until I make it up. I'm forcing silence some in the morning and some at night. But Im trying to work out a schedule to allow for the 3 hour dark room practice. At least I'm making progress in forcing silence better and faster though
You could do this entirely by outdoor silence.
In your case you could pull it off.
Others who are not honest with themselves, could not.
I can't imagine what people are actually thinking, when they claim they can already get silent.
The main reason the darkroom is superior to walking around practice, is you can't lie to yourself.
outdoor practice? so trying to force silence whatever im doing during the day? is that what that means? i really am looking for a way to do some sorcery like you say, not just the forcing silence/meditation thing. i would like to learn some actual sorcery. i am looking for a way. is there a good way of gaining personal power by doing this? because more personal power would give me more energy and allow for less sleep perhaps?
All the time is best. Every single second of the day.
But in the beginning, just try to go for a walk and do it. Until that becomes pleasant.
See, "How to see energy in three weeks". It explains better.
So how would this affect daily activities? I mean, you probably would have to renounce all the leisure... No TV, video games, reading books, listening to music, etc? If you attempt inner silence every second of the day? Not that I'm against it, just wondering if you would have to do this. Or is there room for those activities and silence? Just an honest question
You'll have to solve that yourself.
Likely it's just a matter of how much effort you can manage, and any "increase" in effort produces help from the spirit.
Which continues, as long as you continue to increase the effort.
Fortunately, eventually you gain some "speed" and can move your assemblage point rapidly to where it was the last time you were viewing intense magic.
So that that point, you become more efficient and gain back some of the lost leisure time.
Just don't turn yourself into a monk or an "Annoying Yoga Man" who believes they can learn by denying themselves things.
That won't work at all.
You have to be creative. Not routine.
Thanks. But yes, what I mean also if you can practice inner silence during such activities? I know I can but I don't know if it's the same result or even not sure it's complete inner silence. I find it definitely (obviously) better when doing absolutely nothing. Maybe Tensegrity too. I can identify, separate from inner dialogue and work on stopping it; with music, it while watching TV, it talking, working, etc, I can still practice attempt it, and I can see a subtle but huge difference (the small change goes a long way), in which I realize I've been talking to myself about whatever I'm watching or doing. It's much harder and you need some level of dialogue so it's a constant struggle at that moment to keep balance. On the other hand, while doing sitting silence or Tensegrity, the external silence, focus and lack of distraction is essential.
From your answer I see you have too strike a balance and still do "leisure" activities in moderation, maybe much less than normal and prioritize silence and practice, which at my stage is only about %10 in a dedicated form, bit I still practice attempt to slow inner dialogue %80 of my day during busy times.
The internal dialogue is NOT natural.
So of course you8 can learn to be silent all the time.
Sorcerers are.
And while learning, Taisha liked to claim you were "saving up seconds", and when you reached a threshold, your assemblage point would move.
It's not really like that though. Those seconds need to be consecutive, not accumulated over years.
But she saw that as a bett4er way for beginners to visualize it.
That every second counts.
There's no excuse not to become a sorcerer...
>by constant purging of imaginary contamination.
There's a hathayoga practice where you swallow a long white cloth. You have one end at the mouth, and by the other end you already swallowed you the cloth pull out your butt to clear the digestive system.
Naturally.
All their magic is pretend.
Which means, it has to "escalate" in order to steal more money, and keep up with the other pretenders.
It's a lot like lingerie! It always has to escalate, to keep the husband interested.
Yogis are pretty much the equivalent of TV preachers in the USA.
They know that in India. Mostly because the streets are filled with drug addict Yogis, begging for money.
But americans are as easily fooled by foreign mysticism, just as Koreans are with our TV preachers.
If you didn't grow up with it, you can be presented with the "happy side" of it by bad men, and fall for the belief that's actually what that religion is like where it comes from.
Koreans for example actually believe that Christian cult leaders heal on stage.
On the other hand, sorcery is all about luring your double into the real copy of reality, to be your assistant.
And so even our Carol Tiggs is out there doing Yoga.
Trying, in my opinion, to save sorcery from extinction at the hands of Cleargreen which seems bent on erasing real magic so they can maximize their theft from easy to set up fake workshops.
It's too much trouble for them to try to revive old lost passes, and very easy to pretend something "new" is what you finally need, in order to see real magic.
So if you can "feel the magic" in Yoga, that can indeed be used as a technique.
Just be sure to notice when the double has partially merged with you, by finding his endless microdreams.
When somewhat merged, those become available in your awareness and you only have to "turn your head" to view them.
Except you tend to get confused during the transition.
Yoga is all about that, except that the effects it produces are from an insignificant overlap, which you could more easily get with prayer or repetitious dancing.
Real sorcery only happens when the assemblage point moves.
It won't move, until you get rid of that internal dialogue.
Be careful you don't think of this in terms of other things.
People get obsessed with power spots, where to practice, impeccability, celibacy, and all sorts of side issues you can't possibly benefit from, until you can actually do some sorcery.
That's why no one learned since Carlos died.
None.
And also why their heads explode on hearing that.
Juan's seen that too.
"How dare you say NO ONE learned!!!!"
Well, if they did, where are they? Show me.
We had high hopes for some young ones who subscribed to our Instagram.
Until they got offended on hearing no one learned.
That would be obvious to anyone with even a tiny bit of honesty.
Maybe not before seeing the instagram feed.
But certainly after watching it a month or two, they should realize, "Hey! This is supposed to be EXACTLY like the books. It's not supposed to be something else far less cool."
Brother, it is so much better to be young!
We learn fast, and we are usually lighter than older people.
But you will have to still work.
The first steps might be a bit annoying, but then it gets as exciting as having super powers.
I've just seen a 3d purple ghost walking around me, while I also began to translocate, wich means I started seeing things that aren't really in my room, like a new table.
I'm still trying to figure out how to make the whitish energy stable enough to try to bring the double as Dan posted.
I wishhhhh you work hard enough to verify how cool it is. Then it is just pure fun.
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I'm not one to really know so I don't like giving advice. Only what I've seen and some of what I have read and Mainly experience is the little I have. And from what I have learned A warrior uses what ever they have. They do not quite.
Persistence is the key that throws open the doors. We all are born having so much energy. That energy never grows or never dissipates. It Only gets stuck by fixation. I have seen young teens unable to go beyond the most rudimentary basics of sorcery. And I have seen people 60 and older able to change faster than anyone I have ever met. It is a matter of desire and being impeccable and focusing the will.
My experiences have been hard fought and few but it's how I have come to evolve as little as I have and I don't regret it. Expecting rewards is something that has fallen by the wayside. It's not what it is about. It's about losing your independence and thinking only of yourself all the time. Or what you believe to be yourself. To hell with age. Youth is a position of the assemblage point and so is old age. Constraints of the tonal.
As you free up energy things should get easier. But not always. That is the challenge. My fight is on a day to day second to second basis. Finding ways of freeing up energy. Storing it. Be creative. Petty tyrants, recapitulation, erasing history, magical passes and so on. There is always something a warrior can do. Strategize.
There is no going back. At least not for me. I am hooked. I know time is running out but that is only a pity. There is so much more to know. And if I don't make it, which I pretty much have resigned myself to, then I am happy to be food for infinity. In the meantime there is no other to live. Bon appetite!
I disagree in some aspects that age matters.
No matter your age 10-80 you should start practicing sorcery. Start freeing your energy, loosen that assemblage point, remove the fixation of the first attention.
Whatever energy you save is energy that will be used to freely give to the Eagle.
Any energy freely given without ego to the Eagle will be given back to you... per say.
Now many Don’t believe in reincarnation and sorcery being interchangeable but from what sorcery has taught me this is entirely the point!
The energy you have is fed to the eagle upon your death.
However the eagle is energy and that energy is not destroyed but passed on in the form of energy.
E=mc2
The eagle shits as Don Genaro put it.
This is why most religious theologies that are energy based systems believe in reincarnation.
Heck even the main monotheistic three believe in the progression of the soul.
Now don’t get your hopes up. While the eagles gift will allow your perception to continue this is not the recycling of energy that is reincarnation.
You’re going to be lucky to come back as a virus!
Or a plant or a frog... or more than likely a frog on another planet.
This is where the ego comes into play!
This is where the progression of the soul comes into relevance in regard to sorcery!
We are as sentient beings the eagles favourite fruit. This is because we have progressed through the ages and have accumulated energy to be so.
We are all connected all living things and we all share the same energy.
That energy is the eagles emanations.
Think of the progression of the soul as the shifting of the assemblage point, it takes effort and energy which requires experience and intention but ultimately is the will of the eagle.
Remember that not all sorcery revolves around the lineage of Don Juan and while the eagles gift and total freedom is the end game that is literally not the norm.
Two years ago I meet a trapped individual in Palenque ( which is haunted as fuck ) who I transported to Alameda park in Mexico City where I gave set them free.
This action was commanded by the spirit and the best I can figure it it had everything to do with the progression of the soul.
In other words trapping yourself in a position of the assemblage point which disavows further growth is against the intention of the eagle and has everything to do with the ego!
Or the nature of inorganic beings which work against our natural progression.
So in other words no matter how old you are purification of the spirit through recapitulation is not only beneficial but probably necessary.
The difference between early and late 20s is pretty stark for me. In my opinion you should expect positive changes in your ability, as you practice and as you mature. However, I think for many as they finish maturing mentally they also crystalize their perception of reality, so remaining flexible during those years will make it much easier going forward!
Your frontal lobes don't mature fully until you are like 20-24. In that time you have substantial improvement in cognitive control. Stalking, lucid dreaming and general discipline for various practices can come a bit easier.
I have read and practiced Castaneda here and there since I was 14, and now revisiting and advancing rapidly at 30. However I would not be advancing so much, if I didn't do a lot of psychedelics, dissociatives, meditative practices, lucid dreaming, and got a lot of formal education in psychology in my 20s. I think some or all of these things collectively had a big influence on how flexible my perception of reality is and how I approach learning sorcery today. So going into adulthood its good to keep your second attention active, since it sounds like if you lose that ability its a royal pain in the ass to advance.