The original title of the video is misleading, he didn't experience anything out of the ordinary. At least nothing he was willing to admit. His intent was to benefit a charity (if I remember right, I watched this last week). He busied himself with doing ordinary things in the dark: playing the guitar, attempting to run on a treadmill, microwaving water for dehydrated food etc.
And thinking about what he would do when he got out of that dark space, I think he said he'd never turn the lights off again or something.
I consider this a piece of corroborating proof that without the right intent, even in prime conditions, nothing untoward happens. He never loosened his A.P. because he never silenced his monologue enough, or at all, even though he made a show of meditating during the whole affair.
One bright point was when he recognized the thought "what are you trying to do in here? why don't you just give up and go home" (or words to that effect), and said "BEGONE THOUGHT!"
That might actually work, at least for a short while. A very short while.
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u/1bpjc
1 points2021-03-10 09:54
I consider this a piece of corroborating proof that without the right intent, even in prime conditions, nothing untoward happens. He never loosened his A.P. because he never silenced his monologue enough, or at all, even though he made a show of meditating during the whole affair.
I have a question because I went on this reddit from seing a link in a youtube video and don't understand all of what your saying all, never have read castaneda book. When you say he must silence his monologue then he will have his attention on breath am I right or is it stronger? Is it like buddhist or yoga meditation ?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-03-10 11:33
Different intent. Most, but not all, meditation in other non-sorcery systems merely alters the internal monologue to a more "spiritual theme" as it were. The intent is to be a better, less troubled person, or to aid in breaking a cycle of incarnation or whatever.
In this system, the intent is to shut-off the monologue completely, as it is the glue that keeps our perception tied to a single perceptual view. When perception then shifts far enough, the world itself changes...as do we.
As noted, shutting-off the internal monologue automatically makes you a much less troubled person. So with this direct and primal system you get all the benefits of other meditation systems, plus worlds more.
This "more" doesn't proceed from greed but the necessity to be complete, to return ourselves to original operating condition once freed from the negative accumulated effects of human socialization.
This "more" doesn't proceed from greed but the necessity to be complete, to return ourselves to original operating condition once freed from the negative accumulated effects of human socialization.
But is this internal monologue something that can be observed with our counsciousness or is it something that we can not observe because it is in our uncounscious ? Then how can we remove something we don't perceive ? That is, is it a monologue from our daily lifes, such as concern and question with our behavior with our life... or is it something that is inside our uncounscious and that we usually don't have access ? I should make a question more clear with an example: 1) if I remove all thoughts of my mind, I then have shut down some kind of internal dialogue.
2) but I can not remove my sense ? that is i have my attention on my breath and can observe my sense. Can I shut down the input from my sense, i.e force my brain to not see with open eyes ?
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u/danl999
4 points2021-03-10 16:24
Of course you can see the internal dialogue!
It's like an angry little boy smacking you with his toy.
It's endless! It never stops chattering all day long.
You can hear that voice in your head saying things like, "I SHOULD have told him, you aren't being fair..."
Doesn't matter if the conversation was yesterday, or 30 years ago. We hold grudges forever, and endlessly use up our energy thinking about them.
Don't you hear that talking in your mind?
If you don't (it's very rare someone can't find it), what did you do before you learned to talk?
When you were a baby?
You were silent in your mind. And as a result, you could perceive magic.
Even at 5 years old you were relatively silent in your mind, allowing you to perceive the "monster in the closet", who was in fact a spirit given to you at birth.
Meditation systems take advantage of this, by replacing the internal dialogue with a mantra. Or with contemplation, or whatever they do, to interrupt it.
That produces their "effects", but in fact, they have deliberately slowed you down, to earn more money and have less problems.
I once asked a famous Zen master, Joshu Sasaki, "Why do you have all of these rituals, when you can just teach people to shut off that voice in their heads?"
He'd invited a "pointed question".
But even after the invite, he gasped at the nerve of asking him that.
And he refused to answer. He said, "Please come to our rituals and find out."
I did. At the end a monk whispered to me, I could go to see the Zen master in his private chambers.
I noticed everyone else was slowly leaving at the end of the chanting, to get a visit with him.
When I got there, he looked puzzled. But, he gave me a pointless Zen Koan to meditate on.
Later I found out, I was supposed to bring him a pile of cash.
That's the world of meditation. It works, but very poorly.
> but I can not remove my sense ? that is i have my attention on my breath and can observe my sense.
You've been confused by outside systems, which tie all sorts of things to meditation, such as special breathing, when they have no benefit at all.
The breath changes automatically when you get rid of that internal dialogue for an hour or two.
You reach, "enlightenment".
I have to warn you. It never goes well when someone can't understand what the internal dialogue is. I hope it's just a temporary confusion on terms.
Because if you can't find it, you can't shut it off.
In such a case, you have to resort to "recapitulation", which is covered in the wiki.
That will help you to find the internal dialogue.
And, recapitulation is magical too! Here's what you can do with it. I did all of those, and many more.
You can literally make a copy of yourself, which can become solid, and act in the world for you!
Be in 2 places at once!
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u/1bpjc
1 points2021-03-10 19:40
I think I may have done some things that looks to what you say or budhist or others but in a complete different ways or purpose, and also others things that I have never read about.
Is an internal dialogue always negative ? For example if I tell you an enigma very hard to resolve and ask you to resolve it for a week, then this enigma will consume some of your energy and often be an "internal dialogue", but you can choose to put this enigma on the side, that is to not think about it; for example if you go shoping you may be distracted and think about the enigma and not your lists but then you can put it aside and focus on your lists. So would an enigma be an internal dialogue ?
For example I had an enigma that I choosed for myself that forced me to sleep 16h straight the first day because it was taking all my energy, but this isn't linked to negative emotions.
Now I must say that I would have grudge only against one individual but I try to not keep it or put it aside of my brain to avoid the negativity on me., does what you call remove the internal dialogue mean I would have erased memory of such individual for ever or simply that I put it aside ?
I am also confused Castenada wasn't a shaman, doesn't they focus more on trance than dreams ?
Now secondly I recently discovered that I have quasi-"aphantasia" that is I don't have a strong ability to vizualise, I have more a memory of concepts. So if I close my eyes I have nothing but black in mind I hardly can make vivid images, doesn't seems recapitulation would be at my reach.
What would happen if during a dream I try to silence my internal dialogue ? Not a Lucid dream but a dream I remember.
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u/danl999
5 points2021-03-10 20:09
Is an internal dialogue always negative ?
You're misunderstanding. It's a common misunderstanding.
We don't classify thoughts as good or bad.
We just get rid of them all, so you can see what's going on, without prejudice.
enigma will consume some of your energy and often be an "internal dialogue",
Thanks! I never understood why people misunderstand this.
You're analyzing the streams of internal dialogue, and saying it's only a "dialogue" if it's on the same topic. And so, maybe you get rid of the unpleasant ones.
If the topic is "Oh, poor baby me!",. then you are correct.
But that's the motivation behind ALL of our thoughts.
So no. That's not the internal dialogue.
It goes like this: Reality is up for grabs. We have access to 600 worlds.
What determines the world you are stuck in, is focusing your attention.
So if you are stuck in a loop, with a dialogue about problems at work, that's just as bad as thinking, "I love chocolate ice cream!"
Both are of this reality, so they pull you here.
They all have to go! Every thought that comes with words.
The thoughts that have no words are ok. Those are a reaction to perception.
The ones with words, are a beacon to this reality. You can't leave it, until you get rid of them.
And leave it you will! We aren't talking about beliefs here!
I relocated to a frozen moon circling around another planet, and another sun. Just last night.
It's so common, I don't even pay attention anymore, except to check if I know anyone there, so I can say hello.
Like Bob. He lives there. But I haven't said, "Hey Bob" for weeks. He's never there when I visit.
No, Castaneda was not a shaman.
It's Olmec sorcery, from the great Olmec empire.
It's more like a technology, practiced as a fundamental part of that society.
Which is 10,000 years old, although the history books will only place it back 800 years or so.
That's just one city they found. We're talking abut a very primitive people, possibly the first to live on this continent.
What would happen...
Not much. This is a very long road, not a destination.
Our system is plagued by people who believe they can do a single thing, and now they have arrived.
They love to take random dreams, and try to fit them to what happens if you put in hard work.
Then they go around bullying others into saying they have fantastic sorcery knowledge.
When they have none.
You won't be able to think up anything you can do, which will help you learn.
You have to stick with the established path, which is supported by a magical force that connects all things.
It figures out which path you want to go down, and helps.
If you make your own path, it has no where to send you.
You have to say on the Olmec sorcery path, if you want the maximum the world has seen so far.
Can't even afford to add Buddhism, Hinduism, Daoism, or Astral travel knowledge.
All will hold you back.
And lucid dreaming is not really all that important.
Waking dreaming is what we are after.
The lucid dreaming people don't even know about, or believe in waking dreaming.
It's rather amusing to see the latest "cool" study on lucid dreaming, and realize, there's no way you can introduce those people to something 1000 times more interesting:
Dreaming awake.
They'll either lynch you, or insist on studying you.
And no one can afford to participate in any "studies". It's pointless, and will interrupt your progress.
Permanently perhaps.
The reason sorcery of this type is unknown, is because you have to get rid of that idea of "self" in your head, to pursue it.
No one is willing to do that. Most can't even understand what it means, to get rid of yourself.
But we do it by moving the "assemblage point", a thing unknown to everyone else.
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u/1bpjc
2 points2021-03-10 21:36
I'm starting to understand but only a tiny, it's as if you tell me to take my tennis shoes to train tennis but i don't even know where the court is and i'm not in the same country.
For the idea of "self", I have seen it discussed in several philosophies and I think it's studied by some neuroscientist but I agree it's very rare people grasp the concept or do it. I consider that it can be grasped completly only when done completly. So I don't grasp it fully.
So to fully understand what you call the "internal dialogue":
When I read your text and try to understand it creates an internal dialogue in me, not a dialogue such as a person talking to an other, but thoughts with words.
Now when you answer my questions you have to understand what I mean first, so I have created thoughts with words in your head, so I have created an internal dialogue. But if you answer the question, are the thoughts of such dialogue still in your memory ? Let's say tomorrow will you remember such dialogue?
As I have not yet understood what you say, if now I want to silence my internal dialogue completly I must erase this conversation from my memories, or simply put it aside ?
Because I have only thoughts with word or let's say 99.99%, I must focus my attention to not have any thoughts, but then where is my attention ?
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u/danl999
4 points2021-03-10 22:13
Not necessarily. While reading, that's words in your mind. But that's "talking". It's part of us.
One of "8 points" on human being's energy bodies (only a seer can perceive those).
If you stop reading and start thinking, "This is hard to understand. What does it mean by..."
That's internal dialogue. Even if you think the opposite: "This is easy!".
That's also internal dialogue.
But reading is not. It's a process which requires forming words.
Not necessarily. A sorcerer can be silent in his mind, and still answer your questions. The internal dialogue is NOT fast enough to create the words. Those come from the massive processing power of the brain.
I regularly talk to my demon girlfriend Fancy. I can say, "Wow Fancy, I love that new outfit!"
It's talking, not internal dialogue.
Just stop talking to yourself. In words. Don't worry about what the rest of the brain is doing!
For example, you want to think, "Man, my brother stinks!"
How can you create that, using the internal dialogue??? Like this???:
"I need to think about my brother, something such as he stinks."
But, that's already internal dialogue!
Just sit in a chair, close your eyes, and if a word pops into your mind, shut if off. Find out how long you can go, with no words.
Typical is 2 or 3 seconds only.
When someone says, "10 minutes", it's hopeless to teach them.
They're out to lunch. Or, they have some abstract internal dialogue which is very rare. My father claimed his internal dialogue was typewriter text.
But I doubt that. He didn't learn to type until after his internal dialogue took him over, at around 12 years old.
Unfortunately, people crave attention.
So if you try to explain the internal dialogue to some, they want theirs to be "special".
Which is yet another reason, you CANNOT teach individuals.
Which means all the Buddhist teachers are thieves. Even Ingram.
They take money, when it's hopeless to provide what they are selling. And if t hey aren't advanced enough to notice that, they're still thieves because they pretend to be able to teach, when they don't know enough.
In here, we just introduce people to magic, how to get it, and if we are lucky one in 50 will try it out.
(I've revised my numbers according to the current situation in her.
Then if we are lucky, 1 in 5 who try it out will get good at it.
Which is the best we can do.
Of those who get good at it, only 1 in 3 will keep it up, until they become real sorcerers.
Not a good situation.
The only saving grace is, the ones who try it out will help our cause. They'll understand, sorcery is very hard work.
But there are methods by which it can be learned.
That knowledge in enough people will restore the reputation of our teacher, who was wrongly lynched when he died.
By power hungry people.
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u/1bpjc
1 points2021-03-10 23:07
I think what you describe is generalized not only in religion, but also in science, academic, journalism....
So what you describe to me looks like something I have read in the non-dual philosophy and now I understand it.
Am I not at disadventage because I have only verbal thoughts, so if I see nice cat in the street I will think "What a nice cat", but someone with visual dialogue will be free to visualise it. And I am guessing that numbers count as words too.
You say that " What determines the world you are stuck in, is focusing your attention. ", so if I play tennis-table with someone silently and only focus my attention on the ball and the movements I do without words, I will have stoped my internal dialogue. But if now I start to think "this is a strong opponents" then i have continued my internal dialogue.
Are you able to do tasks that need strong focus such as playing chess without internal dialogue ? Or in these cases you put it back ?
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u/danl999
3 points2021-03-10 23:38
I will think "What a nice cat",
Not quite. If you have absolutely no thoughts about the cat, one way or the other, the cat will transform into what it really is. A ball of fibers of light, with awareness flowing around in them, and lighting up the environment around the cat for a distance of perhaps 30 feet.
The cat is a ball of yellow filaments. Billions of them perhaps.
Up on the shoulders of the cat is a brighter area, where the cat is "assembling" the world it is perceiving.
Also when silent, you may see that there are two cats, not one. The other is his dreaming body.
Yes on the table tennis.
Except, if you fully shut if off, it's possible you will simply vanish at one point, and your opponent will faint out of fright.
Those are currently beyond anyone in there, except for partially.
But not for our teachers.
Able to do tasks when silent????
You get super reflexes. Instead of a glass falling off a table, and you have but one chance to sweep your hand under it and catch it, you have as many as 3 on the way down.
It's why enlightened daoists are said to be peerless fighters, even though they have no style.
You get super hearing, super vision, super smell, super touch.
Because you aren't "glossing" and imaging everything. Your senses are no longer blocked.
Your IQ goes up at least 15 points, and your memory greatly improves.
You begin to be able to read minds. But not by any magic. It's just obvious what the other person is thinking, because of the weird grimaces and hunched shoulders, which normally we overlook out of politeness.
It's like knowing what a 5 year old is thinking, and going to do next, by observing him. Where his eyes are looking, and so on.
It's "enlightenment"! You're better at everything.
You also get younger for a while, instead of older.
How far you can take that, depends on whether you want to specialize.
Sorcerers commonly live past 100, fully active.
Even my Zen master Joshu Sasaki, lived to 104.
Probably it's because you get rid of all stress, other than actual physically caused stress.
There's no self-inflicted stress.
Your breathing becomes perfect, like the ideal Yogi breath. With no effort on your part.
It just changes over dramatically, when you get fully silent for a while.
It's only from the stomach. No shoulders, no chest, just the stomach moves in and out, all by itself.
Every breath has the happy feeling at the end of a yawn.
Non-sorcerers live in hell.
But everyone lives there, so we don't notice it.
Now, before you get carried away, there are 1 million things you can do once you can get silent, that you could not do before.
It's not practical to say, "Hey, try this one out for me."
It's like asking someone to go up into an entire mountain range, and go to the old lost silver mine, and get you a big chunk of mica.
Even suggesting such a thing to a sorcerer, will disturb his evening practices.
He puts a lot of work into pursuing a specific cool thing for a while, and a tiny push ends that "navigation".
So you don't become "superman".
But you COULD, occasionally, exhibit some of his cool powers.
My witch friend Cholita can move small objects just by glancing at them.
But probably not always, on demand.
Wish I could ask her. She's completely insane.
Paranoid schizophenia. Hereditary.
But it makes her a stupendous witch.
She walks right through walls to visit me in my darkroom, when I practice for a few hours.
Can move solid objects in that dreaming double body. But not very heavy ones.
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u/1bpjc
1 points2021-03-11 02:03
It is surprising because in your system you say I must silence my internal dialogue, but I have done the opposite for the last year, I have created additional internal "dialogue", not dialogue to myself, but thought-process such as my whole energy was located into my brain and my sense in the back of my attention. And fight between my counscious and uncouscious in sleep.
What are the 600 words you describe, these are words, that are there or created by others entities ?
You said in an other post that you were creating video games in assemblage code, isn't it hard to shut down the internal dialogue with jobs requiring intelectual focus ?
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u/danl999
3 points2021-03-11 16:05
It sounds to me like you'll never decide to practice.
You should linger and read stuff, to see if you're actually interested.
This is a very specific path. You can't add or subtract things from it, or it won't work.
And when someone's curiosity is mostly intellectual, they never get around to giving it a try.
Which is the only way I get "paid". If someone learns.
This probably sounds harsh, but that's because you're used to chatting about stuff like this, with someone motivated by greed.
A guru, or a wanna-be guru, who has to keep up the right public face in order to get more cash from more people. Or to earn his way up to "teacher" status.
That covers 99.9999% of people who are interested in this sort of thing. Greedy.
I only need people who practice with the least amount of my own efforts. I have no greed motivation at all, in fact being in here costs me greatly.
I have a dozen new people a week, wanting to private chat.
None ever practice.
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u/1bpjc
2 points2021-03-11 22:12
No Sir I think you confuse my intention, I could not write all on public anyway, also I have already started practiced even before I discovered this reddit but a different kind of practice. Yesterday I tried to silence my internal dialogue which I didn't know what it was before I asked you.
But you have to understand what you describe as starting point such as recapitulation is Chinese for me. It seems that I have abstract thinking, and that either I am below your starting point or that I am on a complete different path and journey so that I cannot even comprehend what you write for beginners. I guess I should try one of Carlos book or more of the wiki posts.
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u/danl999
3 points2021-03-11 23:27
If you actually practice, you're highly welcome in here.
But you need to do a bunch of reading to get things right.
You CANNOT mix things in this system.
The other systems don't care if you mix, because they don't actually work.
As long as they get your money, you're cool with them.
Even if you try to inject Chinese philosophy, into Hindu practices. They don't give a damn!
Their grip on reality is very poor.
Best way to think of this is, believe it or not, "Star Wars".
Star Wars is written by people who are big fans of Carlos Castaneda.
They carefully inject his philosophy into the very basis of the magic in those movies.
Lately in fact, they've even admitted that the Jedi are actually sorcerers. In "The Mandalorian" series.
So our main practice is learning to manipulate "the force", except it's proper name is "intent".
If you saw the Last Jedi, the bad sorcerer gets hold of Ray, and orders Ren to kill her.
As Ren brings the sword up, the evil sorcerer says, "I know your every intent!"
Again, showing that movie is written by some big time Castaneda fans.
When I saw that particular move in the series, where Ray and Ren can remote view each other, I learned to do that with my witch friend.
So you can even get ideas to try out from that movie.
I wish I knew who was writing that! One of our teacher witches is Florinda. She has connections in Hollywood. You can find that in some notes from the 1990s, probably on this web site.
Could be, they're trying to tinker with society through those movies.
So, you have to "use the force" if you want to learn.
You can't use the "Chinese force". Or the "Hindu Force".
Those exist also. If you hook onto those, they will pull you down that road.
But they're sort of like the "dark side of the force" to us. Wrong force. It'll corrupt you.
Neither of those ends particularly well.
You have to use the "Olmec Force".
Only.
If you stay on the path, that force helps you out along the way.
If you mix in something else, you will not have good results.
That "force" helps everyone, with what they pursue by themselves.
So you could even pursue Christianity, and it would help with that.
Which is why even Christians have mystical experiences.
So, read up!
If you read in here, go to the illustrated section in the wiki, find a picture you'd like to be able to do, and read that.
You won't understand at first, but if you keep that up, you'll eventually know more about sorcery than anyone has in the past 23 years.
Except of course, our teachers. Carlos, Florinda, Taisha, and Carol.
Read the books of the first 3.
Carol has no books. She's only for energy gifts.
She gave me entry to the spirit world, through a visible tunnel.
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u/Artivist
1 points2022-03-10 04:39
Carol has no books. She's only for energy gifts.
She gave me entry to the spirit world, through a visible tunnel.
Can you elaborate on this?
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-10 15:33
Actually she has a manuscript, but hasn't released it.
In private classes and workshops, Carol gave "gifts" to people.
I don't know anyone else who took advantage of a gift.
You had to actually do all the work, to gain an advantage from it.
And no one did.
How pitiful is that?
Not a single person put in the time to learn to be silent, even after don Juan said that was the main thing.
Instead they ran to bad men, who promised to teach them without having to learn that.
Or they decided why bother to learn, when you can teach?
And if anyone complains, you kick their ass.
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u/canastataa
6 points2021-03-10 11:00
Another trap (at least for me ) was turning the internal silence into a doing (probably a problem for most meditators) . What i mean is that there is this narrative in the back of my awareness that i need to not think. It was not optimal.
Now i just focus on just being, and perceiving. At some point the attention will tap into the internal library to tell you what you perceive. I think this is the process that stops the movement of AP ( the shift of awareness). Notice that we are constantly tapping into this internal library (inventory) so thatwe can comprehend the world around us. At some point this becomes pathological and you can not think "outside the box". One way around it is to understand that this is just another description, there has to be more to it , and descriptions can only capture a fraction of the whole.
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u/princejask
2 points2021-03-10 05:52
Interesting without being interesting.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
4 points2021-03-10 11:19
He kept his eyes closed while meditating in a completely dark room.
(insert audible sound of disappointment)
What a missed opportunity.
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u/Stormtech5
3 points2021-03-10 14:29
What is this sub? It was suggested In my feed the other day and seemed like people like me who enjoy meditation in the dark.
It's a chance for you to actually reach "enlightenment", without waiting decades.
6 weeks is possible, but after 1 week, you'll probably have some exciting magic to think about, making it easier to keep practicing.
Let me sum up the situation. You CANNOT teach an individual.
Not enlightenment, not magic.
I can't explain the reasons here, it would take too long. So just accept, that you cannot pick someone, and succeed at teaching them.
BUT, you can teach hundreds, and find one talented person who works hard on their own.
That's what this subreddit is. We teach for free, so that we can teach thousands.
That means, the world's most famous gurus, like Yogananda, NEVER taught anyone.
He never succeeded in teaching a single person. When he died, his girlfriend took over. A common thing.
If you go look around, you'll find Shinzen Young, the Zen master, who also has real magic.
But he charges money. So he'll fuss around, pretending to be teaching, and he will fail. No one will learn from Shinzen.
Because he insists on being paid.
Then there's Daniel Ingram.
Also has magic! Same as ours too. Chi balls you can toss around, visible, demons, travel to other realms.
I admire both of those guys! They have the real thing.
But Ingram also will NEVER teach anyone. He'll get a few who have a tingle up their spine. Has 3 or 4 on his web page.
But they'll quit.
It's because he charges money, and so he can't teach enough people to have even a single success.
It's what's gone wrong in the world of meditation.
Greed has buried magic.
We're trying to dig it back up in here.
We don't care about individuals. Just numbers.
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u/Stormtech5
3 points2021-03-10 19:13
Interesting. I have studied Buddhism for 15 years so this kinda makes sense. I used to take mini mushroom trips, but my favorite thing to do was take it at night and on a mostly empty stomach.
Then lay down comfortably and put a bandana over my eyes to block out extra light, and just meditate. Now I communicate with a spirit guide/helper without needing chemicals.
I will look into this more, but I know for certain that meditation in the dark can bring about intense spiritual energy and has allowed me to see worlds I never could have imagined.
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u/danl999
5 points2021-03-10 19:59
Learn about the assemblage point.
No other system is aware of that most important topic.
It's the most important thing you can know about, and no one does!
Not even the crazy Hindus, who seem to know everything.
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u/danl999
3 points2021-03-10 16:00
Also, if you want to move the assemblage point on a "bad day", where you have silence, but the colors are scrambled (barely visible, and filled with "pressures"), Tensegrity is the most reliable thing.
It's the flow! Along with visibly seeing the energy it pushes around, the flow invokes a deeper level of silence.
But Tensegrity can include just the systematic scooping of concentrated colors you can find. Fairy taught me that early on. Just look around and clear the air into your torso.
Such as in this passage of a long form:
It's at 5:22 if your browser didn't go to the right spot.
You DO NOT have to jump up into the air! I once heard Carlos comment to one of the inner circle women, that he just liked seeing the stiff Europeans jump up into the air. He felt it was good for them. But otherwise, the jumping doesn't significantly contribute to anything. You'd be better off with "mashing energy", if you wanted more of that component.
Carlos was a genius! Or perhaps, he could see really well.
He got criticism for the Tensegrity, and I've heard that off in the free for all subreddit they've decided Tensegrity is evil.
Anything to get out of work.
But in fact, it DOES redeploy energy, as long as you bring the puffs onto your torso.
It also lures out inorganic beings, who are intrigued by the possibility you're going to make your dreaming double solid.
You don't even have to stand up and walk around. I highly recommend that, only because you'll fall asleep after more than an hour, if you don't walk around.
Although, making circles with the feet on the ground also has a good effect. So the jumping isn't without some benefit.
Bottom line: When you get REALLY good at darkroom gazing, as in you look around and you're in an antique mall on the other side of the galaxy, don't forget your tensegrity when you're having a bad day.
New people in here: Yes, you can relocate to the other side of the galaxy! We aren't kidding.
It's called, "translocation" and you'll find examples in the wiki. Try the "Detailed Illustrations" section.
I used to use words only in my posts, then got some complaints my posts were too long to read.
And I then remembered, Carlos resorted to at least one painting at the end, when he had run out of time to teach us. He'd already explained that topic several times, but the painting got everyone excited.
(They still never put in the time to duplicate it.)
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u/Juann2323
2 points2021-03-11 01:04
Well, darkness is only first attention at the ordinary position!
This guy probably didn't do anything else than non-stop thinking
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u/lurklops
1 points2021-04-12 00:12
Man that would be an awesome experiment to try.
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u/Prestigious_Spinach5
1 points2022-03-19 08:46
What was the point of this shambolic nonesense?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-03-19 09:20
Why did Neo in the movie the Matrix stare at his computer for hours every night, looking for Morpheus...the one who could show him "what was wrong with the world?"
Why did Truman in the film "The Truman Show" make the decision to leave the illusory world that was carefully crafted around him? It was perfect by human standards.
A perfect lie, that is.
Why did he choose to venture into the, to him unknown, world beyond the dome, knowing nothing of the reality outside of it?
If you can't answer either of these, then you are not the people the books of Castaneda were written for.
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The original title of the video is misleading, he didn't experience anything out of the ordinary. At least nothing he was willing to admit. His intent was to benefit a charity (if I remember right, I watched this last week). He busied himself with doing ordinary things in the dark: playing the guitar, attempting to run on a treadmill, microwaving water for dehydrated food etc.
And thinking about what he would do when he got out of that dark space, I think he said he'd never turn the lights off again or something.
I consider this a piece of corroborating proof that without the right intent, even in prime conditions, nothing untoward happens. He never loosened his A.P. because he never silenced his monologue enough, or at all, even though he made a show of meditating during the whole affair.
One bright point was when he recognized the thought "what are you trying to do in here? why don't you just give up and go home" (or words to that effect), and said "BEGONE THOUGHT!"
That might actually work, at least for a short while. A very short while.
I have a question because I went on this reddit from seing a link in a youtube video and don't understand all of what your saying all, never have read castaneda book. When you say he must silence his monologue then he will have his attention on breath am I right or is it stronger? Is it like buddhist or yoga meditation ?
Different intent. Most, but not all, meditation in other non-sorcery systems merely alters the internal monologue to a more "spiritual theme" as it were. The intent is to be a better, less troubled person, or to aid in breaking a cycle of incarnation or whatever.
In this system, the intent is to shut-off the monologue completely, as it is the glue that keeps our perception tied to a single perceptual view. When perception then shifts far enough, the world itself changes...as do we.
As noted, shutting-off the internal monologue automatically makes you a much less troubled person. So with this direct and primal system you get all the benefits of other meditation systems, plus worlds more.
This "more" doesn't proceed from greed but the necessity to be complete, to return ourselves to original operating condition once freed from the negative accumulated effects of human socialization.
Explanation of the difference (at the bottom)
But is this internal monologue something that can be observed with our counsciousness or is it something that we can not observe because it is in our uncounscious ? Then how can we remove something we don't perceive ? That is, is it a monologue from our daily lifes, such as concern and question with our behavior with our life... or is it something that is inside our uncounscious and that we usually don't have access ? I should make a question more clear with an example: 1) if I remove all thoughts of my mind, I then have shut down some kind of internal dialogue.
2) but I can not remove my sense ? that is i have my attention on my breath and can observe my sense. Can I shut down the input from my sense, i.e force my brain to not see with open eyes ?
Of course you can see the internal dialogue!
It's like an angry little boy smacking you with his toy.
It's endless! It never stops chattering all day long.
You can hear that voice in your head saying things like, "I SHOULD have told him, you aren't being fair..."
Doesn't matter if the conversation was yesterday, or 30 years ago. We hold grudges forever, and endlessly use up our energy thinking about them.
Don't you hear that talking in your mind?
If you don't (it's very rare someone can't find it), what did you do before you learned to talk?
When you were a baby?
You were silent in your mind. And as a result, you could perceive magic.
Even at 5 years old you were relatively silent in your mind, allowing you to perceive the "monster in the closet", who was in fact a spirit given to you at birth.
Meditation systems take advantage of this, by replacing the internal dialogue with a mantra. Or with contemplation, or whatever they do, to interrupt it.
That produces their "effects", but in fact, they have deliberately slowed you down, to earn more money and have less problems.
I once asked a famous Zen master, Joshu Sasaki, "Why do you have all of these rituals, when you can just teach people to shut off that voice in their heads?"
He'd invited a "pointed question".
But even after the invite, he gasped at the nerve of asking him that.
And he refused to answer. He said, "Please come to our rituals and find out."
I did. At the end a monk whispered to me, I could go to see the Zen master in his private chambers.
I noticed everyone else was slowly leaving at the end of the chanting, to get a visit with him.
When I got there, he looked puzzled. But, he gave me a pointless Zen Koan to meditate on.
Later I found out, I was supposed to bring him a pile of cash.
That's the world of meditation. It works, but very poorly.
> but I can not remove my sense ? that is i have my attention on my breath and can observe my sense.
You've been confused by outside systems, which tie all sorts of things to meditation, such as special breathing, when they have no benefit at all.
The breath changes automatically when you get rid of that internal dialogue for an hour or two.
You reach, "enlightenment".
I have to warn you. It never goes well when someone can't understand what the internal dialogue is. I hope it's just a temporary confusion on terms.
Because if you can't find it, you can't shut it off.
In such a case, you have to resort to "recapitulation", which is covered in the wiki.
That will help you to find the internal dialogue.
And, recapitulation is magical too! Here's what you can do with it. I did all of those, and many more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/l9h1te/recapitulation_effects/
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/l3me39/accelerated_recapitulation/
You can literally make a copy of yourself, which can become solid, and act in the world for you!
Be in 2 places at once!
I think I may have done some things that looks to what you say or budhist or others but in a complete different ways or purpose, and also others things that I have never read about.
Is an internal dialogue always negative ? For example if I tell you an enigma very hard to resolve and ask you to resolve it for a week, then this enigma will consume some of your energy and often be an "internal dialogue", but you can choose to put this enigma on the side, that is to not think about it; for example if you go shoping you may be distracted and think about the enigma and not your lists but then you can put it aside and focus on your lists. So would an enigma be an internal dialogue ?
For example I had an enigma that I choosed for myself that forced me to sleep 16h straight the first day because it was taking all my energy, but this isn't linked to negative emotions.
Now I must say that I would have grudge only against one individual but I try to not keep it or put it aside of my brain to avoid the negativity on me., does what you call remove the internal dialogue mean I would have erased memory of such individual for ever or simply that I put it aside ?
I am also confused Castenada wasn't a shaman, doesn't they focus more on trance than dreams ?
Now secondly I recently discovered that I have quasi-"aphantasia" that is I don't have a strong ability to vizualise, I have more a memory of concepts. So if I close my eyes I have nothing but black in mind I hardly can make vivid images, doesn't seems recapitulation would be at my reach.
What would happen if during a dream I try to silence my internal dialogue ? Not a Lucid dream but a dream I remember.
You're misunderstanding. It's a common misunderstanding.
We don't classify thoughts as good or bad.
We just get rid of them all, so you can see what's going on, without prejudice.
Thanks! I never understood why people misunderstand this.
You're analyzing the streams of internal dialogue, and saying it's only a "dialogue" if it's on the same topic. And so, maybe you get rid of the unpleasant ones.
If the topic is "Oh, poor baby me!",. then you are correct.
But that's the motivation behind ALL of our thoughts.
So no. That's not the internal dialogue.
It goes like this: Reality is up for grabs. We have access to 600 worlds.
What determines the world you are stuck in, is focusing your attention.
So if you are stuck in a loop, with a dialogue about problems at work, that's just as bad as thinking, "I love chocolate ice cream!"
Both are of this reality, so they pull you here.
They all have to go! Every thought that comes with words.
The thoughts that have no words are ok. Those are a reaction to perception.
The ones with words, are a beacon to this reality. You can't leave it, until you get rid of them.
And leave it you will! We aren't talking about beliefs here!
I relocated to a frozen moon circling around another planet, and another sun. Just last night.
It's so common, I don't even pay attention anymore, except to check if I know anyone there, so I can say hello.
Like Bob. He lives there. But I haven't said, "Hey Bob" for weeks. He's never there when I visit.
No, Castaneda was not a shaman.
It's Olmec sorcery, from the great Olmec empire.
It's more like a technology, practiced as a fundamental part of that society.
Which is 10,000 years old, although the history books will only place it back 800 years or so.
That's just one city they found. We're talking abut a very primitive people, possibly the first to live on this continent.
Not much. This is a very long road, not a destination.
Our system is plagued by people who believe they can do a single thing, and now they have arrived.
They love to take random dreams, and try to fit them to what happens if you put in hard work.
Then they go around bullying others into saying they have fantastic sorcery knowledge.
When they have none.
You won't be able to think up anything you can do, which will help you learn.
You have to stick with the established path, which is supported by a magical force that connects all things.
It figures out which path you want to go down, and helps.
If you make your own path, it has no where to send you.
You have to say on the Olmec sorcery path, if you want the maximum the world has seen so far.
Can't even afford to add Buddhism, Hinduism, Daoism, or Astral travel knowledge.
All will hold you back.
And lucid dreaming is not really all that important.
Waking dreaming is what we are after.
The lucid dreaming people don't even know about, or believe in waking dreaming.
It's rather amusing to see the latest "cool" study on lucid dreaming, and realize, there's no way you can introduce those people to something 1000 times more interesting:
Dreaming awake.
They'll either lynch you, or insist on studying you.
And no one can afford to participate in any "studies". It's pointless, and will interrupt your progress.
Permanently perhaps.
The reason sorcery of this type is unknown, is because you have to get rid of that idea of "self" in your head, to pursue it.
No one is willing to do that. Most can't even understand what it means, to get rid of yourself.
But we do it by moving the "assemblage point", a thing unknown to everyone else.
I'm starting to understand but only a tiny, it's as if you tell me to take my tennis shoes to train tennis but i don't even know where the court is and i'm not in the same country.
For the idea of "self", I have seen it discussed in several philosophies and I think it's studied by some neuroscientist but I agree it's very rare people grasp the concept or do it. I consider that it can be grasped completly only when done completly. So I don't grasp it fully.
So to fully understand what you call the "internal dialogue":
One of "8 points" on human being's energy bodies (only a seer can perceive those).
If you stop reading and start thinking, "This is hard to understand. What does it mean by..."
That's internal dialogue. Even if you think the opposite: "This is easy!".
That's also internal dialogue.
But reading is not. It's a process which requires forming words.
I regularly talk to my demon girlfriend Fancy. I can say, "Wow Fancy, I love that new outfit!"
It's talking, not internal dialogue.
For example, you want to think, "Man, my brother stinks!"
How can you create that, using the internal dialogue??? Like this???:
"I need to think about my brother, something such as he stinks."
But, that's already internal dialogue!
Typical is 2 or 3 seconds only.
When someone says, "10 minutes", it's hopeless to teach them.
They're out to lunch. Or, they have some abstract internal dialogue which is very rare. My father claimed his internal dialogue was typewriter text.
But I doubt that. He didn't learn to type until after his internal dialogue took him over, at around 12 years old.
Unfortunately, people crave attention.
So if you try to explain the internal dialogue to some, they want theirs to be "special".
Which is yet another reason, you CANNOT teach individuals.
Which means all the Buddhist teachers are thieves. Even Ingram.
They take money, when it's hopeless to provide what they are selling. And if t hey aren't advanced enough to notice that, they're still thieves because they pretend to be able to teach, when they don't know enough.
In here, we just introduce people to magic, how to get it, and if we are lucky one in 50 will try it out.
(I've revised my numbers according to the current situation in her.
Then if we are lucky, 1 in 5 who try it out will get good at it.
Which is the best we can do.
Of those who get good at it, only 1 in 3 will keep it up, until they become real sorcerers.
Not a good situation.
The only saving grace is, the ones who try it out will help our cause. They'll understand, sorcery is very hard work.
But there are methods by which it can be learned.
That knowledge in enough people will restore the reputation of our teacher, who was wrongly lynched when he died.
By power hungry people.
I think what you describe is generalized not only in religion, but also in science, academic, journalism....
So what you describe to me looks like something I have read in the non-dual philosophy and now I understand it.
Am I not at disadventage because I have only verbal thoughts, so if I see nice cat in the street I will think "What a nice cat", but someone with visual dialogue will be free to visualise it. And I am guessing that numbers count as words too.
You say that " What determines the world you are stuck in, is focusing your attention. ", so if I play tennis-table with someone silently and only focus my attention on the ball and the movements I do without words, I will have stoped my internal dialogue. But if now I start to think "this is a strong opponents" then i have continued my internal dialogue.
Are you able to do tasks that need strong focus such as playing chess without internal dialogue ? Or in these cases you put it back ?
Not quite. If you have absolutely no thoughts about the cat, one way or the other, the cat will transform into what it really is. A ball of fibers of light, with awareness flowing around in them, and lighting up the environment around the cat for a distance of perhaps 30 feet.
The cat is a ball of yellow filaments. Billions of them perhaps.
Up on the shoulders of the cat is a brighter area, where the cat is "assembling" the world it is perceiving.
Also when silent, you may see that there are two cats, not one. The other is his dreaming body.
Yes on the table tennis.
Except, if you fully shut if off, it's possible you will simply vanish at one point, and your opponent will faint out of fright.
Those are currently beyond anyone in there, except for partially.
But not for our teachers.
Able to do tasks when silent????
You get super reflexes. Instead of a glass falling off a table, and you have but one chance to sweep your hand under it and catch it, you have as many as 3 on the way down.
It's why enlightened daoists are said to be peerless fighters, even though they have no style.
You get super hearing, super vision, super smell, super touch.
Because you aren't "glossing" and imaging everything. Your senses are no longer blocked.
Your IQ goes up at least 15 points, and your memory greatly improves.
You begin to be able to read minds. But not by any magic. It's just obvious what the other person is thinking, because of the weird grimaces and hunched shoulders, which normally we overlook out of politeness.
It's like knowing what a 5 year old is thinking, and going to do next, by observing him. Where his eyes are looking, and so on.
It's "enlightenment"! You're better at everything.
You also get younger for a while, instead of older.
How far you can take that, depends on whether you want to specialize.
Sorcerers commonly live past 100, fully active.
Even my Zen master Joshu Sasaki, lived to 104.
Probably it's because you get rid of all stress, other than actual physically caused stress.
There's no self-inflicted stress.
Your breathing becomes perfect, like the ideal Yogi breath. With no effort on your part.
It just changes over dramatically, when you get fully silent for a while.
It's only from the stomach. No shoulders, no chest, just the stomach moves in and out, all by itself.
Every breath has the happy feeling at the end of a yawn.
Non-sorcerers live in hell.
But everyone lives there, so we don't notice it.
Now, before you get carried away, there are 1 million things you can do once you can get silent, that you could not do before.
It's not practical to say, "Hey, try this one out for me."
It's like asking someone to go up into an entire mountain range, and go to the old lost silver mine, and get you a big chunk of mica.
Even suggesting such a thing to a sorcerer, will disturb his evening practices.
He puts a lot of work into pursuing a specific cool thing for a while, and a tiny push ends that "navigation".
So you don't become "superman".
But you COULD, occasionally, exhibit some of his cool powers.
My witch friend Cholita can move small objects just by glancing at them.
But probably not always, on demand.
Wish I could ask her. She's completely insane.
Paranoid schizophenia. Hereditary.
But it makes her a stupendous witch.
She walks right through walls to visit me in my darkroom, when I practice for a few hours.
Can move solid objects in that dreaming double body. But not very heavy ones.
It is surprising because in your system you say I must silence my internal dialogue, but I have done the opposite for the last year, I have created additional internal "dialogue", not dialogue to myself, but thought-process such as my whole energy was located into my brain and my sense in the back of my attention. And fight between my counscious and uncouscious in sleep.
What are the 600 words you describe, these are words, that are there or created by others entities ?
You said in an other post that you were creating video games in assemblage code, isn't it hard to shut down the internal dialogue with jobs requiring intelectual focus ?
It sounds to me like you'll never decide to practice.
You should linger and read stuff, to see if you're actually interested.
This is a very specific path. You can't add or subtract things from it, or it won't work.
And when someone's curiosity is mostly intellectual, they never get around to giving it a try.
Which is the only way I get "paid". If someone learns.
This probably sounds harsh, but that's because you're used to chatting about stuff like this, with someone motivated by greed.
A guru, or a wanna-be guru, who has to keep up the right public face in order to get more cash from more people. Or to earn his way up to "teacher" status.
That covers 99.9999% of people who are interested in this sort of thing. Greedy.
I only need people who practice with the least amount of my own efforts. I have no greed motivation at all, in fact being in here costs me greatly.
I have a dozen new people a week, wanting to private chat.
None ever practice.
No Sir I think you confuse my intention, I could not write all on public anyway, also I have already started practiced even before I discovered this reddit but a different kind of practice. Yesterday I tried to silence my internal dialogue which I didn't know what it was before I asked you.
But you have to understand what you describe as starting point such as recapitulation is Chinese for me. It seems that I have abstract thinking, and that either I am below your starting point or that I am on a complete different path and journey so that I cannot even comprehend what you write for beginners. I guess I should try one of Carlos book or more of the wiki posts.
If you actually practice, you're highly welcome in here.
But you need to do a bunch of reading to get things right.
You CANNOT mix things in this system.
The other systems don't care if you mix, because they don't actually work.
As long as they get your money, you're cool with them.
Even if you try to inject Chinese philosophy, into Hindu practices. They don't give a damn!
Their grip on reality is very poor.
Best way to think of this is, believe it or not, "Star Wars".
Star Wars is written by people who are big fans of Carlos Castaneda.
They carefully inject his philosophy into the very basis of the magic in those movies.
Lately in fact, they've even admitted that the Jedi are actually sorcerers. In "The Mandalorian" series.
So our main practice is learning to manipulate "the force", except it's proper name is "intent".
If you saw the Last Jedi, the bad sorcerer gets hold of Ray, and orders Ren to kill her.
As Ren brings the sword up, the evil sorcerer says, "I know your every intent!"
Again, showing that movie is written by some big time Castaneda fans.
When I saw that particular move in the series, where Ray and Ren can remote view each other, I learned to do that with my witch friend.
So you can even get ideas to try out from that movie.
I wish I knew who was writing that! One of our teacher witches is Florinda. She has connections in Hollywood. You can find that in some notes from the 1990s, probably on this web site.
Could be, they're trying to tinker with society through those movies.
So, you have to "use the force" if you want to learn.
You can't use the "Chinese force". Or the "Hindu Force".
Those exist also. If you hook onto those, they will pull you down that road.
But they're sort of like the "dark side of the force" to us. Wrong force. It'll corrupt you.
Neither of those ends particularly well.
You have to use the "Olmec Force".
Only.
If you stay on the path, that force helps you out along the way.
If you mix in something else, you will not have good results.
That "force" helps everyone, with what they pursue by themselves.
So you could even pursue Christianity, and it would help with that.
Which is why even Christians have mystical experiences.
So, read up!
If you read in here, go to the illustrated section in the wiki, find a picture you'd like to be able to do, and read that.
You won't understand at first, but if you keep that up, you'll eventually know more about sorcery than anyone has in the past 23 years.
Except of course, our teachers. Carlos, Florinda, Taisha, and Carol.
Read the books of the first 3.
Carol has no books. She's only for energy gifts.
She gave me entry to the spirit world, through a visible tunnel.
Can you elaborate on this?
Actually she has a manuscript, but hasn't released it.
In private classes and workshops, Carol gave "gifts" to people.
I don't know anyone else who took advantage of a gift.
You had to actually do all the work, to gain an advantage from it.
And no one did.
How pitiful is that?
Not a single person put in the time to learn to be silent, even after don Juan said that was the main thing.
Instead they ran to bad men, who promised to teach them without having to learn that.
Or they decided why bother to learn, when you can teach?
And if anyone complains, you kick their ass.
Another trap (at least for me ) was turning the internal silence into a doing (probably a problem for most meditators) . What i mean is that there is this narrative in the back of my awareness that i need to not think. It was not optimal.
Now i just focus on just being, and perceiving. At some point the attention will tap into the internal library to tell you what you perceive. I think this is the process that stops the movement of AP ( the shift of awareness). Notice that we are constantly tapping into this internal library (inventory) so thatwe can comprehend the world around us. At some point this becomes pathological and you can not think "outside the box". One way around it is to understand that this is just another description, there has to be more to it , and descriptions can only capture a fraction of the whole.
Interesting without being interesting.
He kept his eyes closed while meditating in a completely dark room.
(insert audible sound of disappointment)
What a missed opportunity.
What is this sub? It was suggested In my feed the other day and seemed like people like me who enjoy meditation in the dark.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/introduction
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/faq
Darkroom Practice - https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/ifu1bv/darkroom_practice/
It's a chance for you to actually reach "enlightenment", without waiting decades.
6 weeks is possible, but after 1 week, you'll probably have some exciting magic to think about, making it easier to keep practicing.
Let me sum up the situation. You CANNOT teach an individual.
Not enlightenment, not magic.
I can't explain the reasons here, it would take too long. So just accept, that you cannot pick someone, and succeed at teaching them.
BUT, you can teach hundreds, and find one talented person who works hard on their own.
That's what this subreddit is. We teach for free, so that we can teach thousands.
That means, the world's most famous gurus, like Yogananda, NEVER taught anyone.
He never succeeded in teaching a single person. When he died, his girlfriend took over. A common thing.
If you go look around, you'll find Shinzen Young, the Zen master, who also has real magic.
But he charges money. So he'll fuss around, pretending to be teaching, and he will fail. No one will learn from Shinzen.
Because he insists on being paid.
Then there's Daniel Ingram.
Also has magic! Same as ours too. Chi balls you can toss around, visible, demons, travel to other realms.
I admire both of those guys! They have the real thing.
But Ingram also will NEVER teach anyone. He'll get a few who have a tingle up their spine. Has 3 or 4 on his web page.
But they'll quit.
It's because he charges money, and so he can't teach enough people to have even a single success.
It's what's gone wrong in the world of meditation.
Greed has buried magic.
We're trying to dig it back up in here.
We don't care about individuals. Just numbers.
Interesting. I have studied Buddhism for 15 years so this kinda makes sense. I used to take mini mushroom trips, but my favorite thing to do was take it at night and on a mostly empty stomach.
Then lay down comfortably and put a bandana over my eyes to block out extra light, and just meditate. Now I communicate with a spirit guide/helper without needing chemicals.
I will look into this more, but I know for certain that meditation in the dark can bring about intense spiritual energy and has allowed me to see worlds I never could have imagined.
Learn about the assemblage point.
No other system is aware of that most important topic.
It's the most important thing you can know about, and no one does!
Not even the crazy Hindus, who seem to know everything.
Also, if you want to move the assemblage point on a "bad day", where you have silence, but the colors are scrambled (barely visible, and filled with "pressures"), Tensegrity is the most reliable thing.
It's the flow! Along with visibly seeing the energy it pushes around, the flow invokes a deeper level of silence.
But Tensegrity can include just the systematic scooping of concentrated colors you can find. Fairy taught me that early on. Just look around and clear the air into your torso.
Such as in this passage of a long form:
It's at 5:22 if your browser didn't go to the right spot.
You DO NOT have to jump up into the air! I once heard Carlos comment to one of the inner circle women, that he just liked seeing the stiff Europeans jump up into the air. He felt it was good for them. But otherwise, the jumping doesn't significantly contribute to anything. You'd be better off with "mashing energy", if you wanted more of that component.
Carlos was a genius! Or perhaps, he could see really well.
He got criticism for the Tensegrity, and I've heard that off in the free for all subreddit they've decided Tensegrity is evil.
Anything to get out of work.
But in fact, it DOES redeploy energy, as long as you bring the puffs onto your torso.
It also lures out inorganic beings, who are intrigued by the possibility you're going to make your dreaming double solid.
You don't even have to stand up and walk around. I highly recommend that, only because you'll fall asleep after more than an hour, if you don't walk around.
Although, making circles with the feet on the ground also has a good effect. So the jumping isn't without some benefit.
Bottom line: When you get REALLY good at darkroom gazing, as in you look around and you're in an antique mall on the other side of the galaxy, don't forget your tensegrity when you're having a bad day.
New people in here: Yes, you can relocate to the other side of the galaxy! We aren't kidding.
It's called, "translocation" and you'll find examples in the wiki. Try the "Detailed Illustrations" section.
I used to use words only in my posts, then got some complaints my posts were too long to read.
And I then remembered, Carlos resorted to at least one painting at the end, when he had run out of time to teach us. He'd already explained that topic several times, but the painting got everyone excited.
(They still never put in the time to duplicate it.)
Well, darkness is only first attention at the ordinary position!
This guy probably didn't do anything else than non-stop thinking
Man that would be an awesome experiment to try.
What was the point of this shambolic nonesense?
Why did Neo in the movie the Matrix stare at his computer for hours every night, looking for Morpheus...the one who could show him "what was wrong with the world?"
Why did Truman in the film "The Truman Show" make the decision to leave the illusory world that was carefully crafted around him? It was perfect by human standards.
A perfect lie, that is.
Why did he choose to venture into the, to him unknown, world beyond the dome, knowing nothing of the reality outside of it?
If you can't answer either of these, then you are not the people the books of Castaneda were written for.