A different type of dreaming

I was lying in bed just now,.and i remembered a technique that i used couple of times.

I call it just blindfolding or blind walking, and it is as the names suggests, just doing stuff blindfolded.

Here is why you should try this. The simplest reason is that it will make you enter into phantom copies if the world you are interacting with, and it is like the search for the real world.

When we close our eyes it's like we can see through our eyelids. That is the second attention that does that. So focusing on the seeing through the eyelids/blindfold makes you fokus on the second attention basically.

This can be practiced in bed only with closed eyes, or walking around with an blindfold. I like walking around because you safety depends on you being able too see through the blindfold with the second attention.

I won't explain no more. Those who know those know.

And also if you don't believe that you can see through stuff do one thing right now. Close your eyes very hard and make sure you don't see anything. And them move you hand in front of your closed eyes at an normal distance. Most likely you will see like the outline of you hand moving. Somethimes it has almost like an little delay on it, and you are seeing traces if you hand movements. It is like you dream of your hand moving. Or if you are a little silent you will see your hands energy, like and purple puff or something.

That is why this technique actually works.

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2021-04-17 23:01

Did you just rename darkroom practice?

But you took one of the few things we recommend not to do: practice with the eyes closed.

Please do some reading on the subreddit before posting.

We are serious practitioners here, and we cannot tolerate misleadings.

If you are willing to work, your help will be very welcome.

But be sure to make some progress before advising new people; you could damage their learning.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 7 points 2021-04-17 23:04

You can do this with eyes open while wearing one of the masks that users on here have used that allow you to open your eyes comfortably.

They're listed in the Darkroom Practice thread that's pinned to the top.

Keeping your eyes open is an IMPORTANT distinction, when working on breaking down the barriers of our perception.

Keeping them closed will be forever limiting.

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u/ItsBeyoondMee 4 points 2021-04-18 08:19

Yes you can wear mask. Again this just an idea i had. An prototype.

I just wanted to see if people have done similar stuff in seeing ACTUAL stuff through stuff.

Because i found out that you could easily see let's say and other human through the blindfold but a wall was near to impossible to see.

Some thing interact with puffs. And some don't. That the best i can describe it.

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u/danl999 7 points 2021-04-18 17:22

After Carlos died, I took a group of 3 or 4 women to Della Van Hise's home at Joshua tree, and we tried this with a rope.

All of us linked by the rope, eyes closed, walking along a desert path.

I was at front so I could select a safe path.

I'd done this eyes open, and walked into another world a time or two.

I thought the mass of women ought to make it possible, but I didn't have the energy back then that I do now.

We didn't have any luck.

After that, most of the women eventually gave up, and cursed Carlos.

Lack of a "lifestyle" is the cause, according to my inorganic being Fancy.

You can't drop women off in the middle of nowhere, and not expect them to find some friends. Even if there's a rumor that an old gold mine is nearby.

They don't care.

My guess is, the women who followed me there were hoping to come up with a new "lifestyle", given that Carlos was gone.

That's what Carlos had done. Put together a lifestyle for the women.

And if men wanted to hang out, that's fine. But it was all designed for the women to remain.

One of the ones I took to Joshua tree still lurks around, but she's hanging out with an ambivalent man from class.

The type that simply declared himself a sorcerer, and to hell with everyone else.

And not to happy to see this place. So she won't come too.

But watch the closed eye thing!

It's a death trap.

It's tainted with the intent of meditation systems.

If you think that's an exaggeration, I'll tell a weird story.

Happened two days ago.

I was gazing at a huge tree, hoping to see the luminous shell. Lidotska got me interested in that many months ago, so daily I go try to "see" the tree.

I've had some progress. I'll be looking at the huge tree, and especially the spaces between branches, and the dark parts will become intense, like dark energy in the dark room.

I get a creepy feeling that lets me be almost perfectly silent, if I can hold it.

Over time, I've seen more and more second attention content.

A blueish ball of fibers, radiating out from the center, forms in the middle of the mass.

I can see all the individual fibers, but not so well a "normal" person wouldn't rub their eyes and ignore it.

I realized I need to hold it somehow, without interfering, and the sight would uncover hidden "skimmings of intent".

We block most of what we could perceive, so if you get even a tiny hint of it, watching that longer is a good thing to do.

So I was watching that 2 days ago, and an intense orange dot burned into view, nearer to the top of the tree.

It was much like the sun catching some glass, and glaring into your eye for an instant. It was that bright.

Except, I could clearly see a perfect spherical shape to the orange dot, and it had yellow fibers emanating away from it.

I rubbed my eyes, to ignore it. Then I realized my mistake and returned to trying to see the blue fibers.

Three more dots bloomed and disappeared, over different spots. The tree was literally "sparkling".

I got angry, lifted my hand, palm towards the tree, circled it around like I was Merlin the magician or something, and said, "None of that! That's not it!!!"

And it was gone.

I've been back there 6 times since, and there's nothing.

I intended it all away with a single careless mistake.

I suppose I'm going to have to go apologize to the tree today.

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u/ItsBeyoondMee 1 points 2021-04-18 20:43

Basically closing you eyes or blinking sometimes resets or flickers the AP in a way, if i got it right? I think it because it's like and habit that restores the world in a way. That's what you meant?

Also having eyes closed for a longer time makes the eyes fall asleep in a way, wich i guess is not that beneficial.

Is that why you recommend eyes open or are there other reasons, if any?

And yes of course this closed eye thing was just a way to show sceptical people that you can see through stuff fairly easy.

The only use for this technique would be walking around blindfolded in an random outside area, like the dessert.

It cool that you actually did exactly that, haha.

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u/danl999 6 points 2021-04-19 14:34

I suppose that's right. The "gaze" controls summoning intent.

With eyes closed, the gaze is inward.

If they blink, the gaze is disturbed.

The gaze being disturbed inevitably causes the assemblage point to flicker.

BUT, don't accept what I say about it! Just assume anything I say is repeatable by you.

And give it a try.

Do the eyes fall asleep?

I suppose they might, but it's more likely they just tunnel into the second attention, into sleep land. Without sufficient practice to remain alert.

That's why the "Simple Silence Technique", which is much like you are describing, takes advantage of falling asleep. It's the main feature of the technique. To let the head fall forward, and force you to pay attention to what you were just perceiving.

But the main reason not to do it eyes closed is because the teachings of don Juan are in danger of being lost forever.

We need "impressive" things, like seeing demons with your eyes open and interacting with them by actually moving around the room.

With eyes closed, and especially stationary, it's no big deal. People believe they do that all the time in dreams.

So I suppose it's really a matter of obligation to the community as a whole, to try hard to keep the eyes open.

If you don't care, we do in fact need closed eye specialists. Those are valuable too, for knowledge sake.

But they won't help restore the reputation of Carlos.

I'll repeat some of the last words I heard Carlos speak to me in private:

"I'm dying, and no one believes me."

That's our task. Make sure everyone believes him.

Then it's just a choice people can make or not, without the barrier of "he was thoroughly debunked" piled on top of his books.

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