Man is also the only one aware of the concept of evil
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u/Begemonster
2 points2021-05-20 14:04
What is evil?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
10 points2021-05-20 14:26
And egotism is the primary fuel behind it.
Definition:
An exaggerated opinion of your own importance
=self-importance, swelled head
An inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others
=ego, self-importance
[\u00a9 WordWebSoftware.com]
Exaggerated/inflated being the key adjectives. We also, concurrently, shouldn't think of ourselves as being less than others.
The humility of a Jainist monk who refuses to even accidentally kill insects, or of the vows of poverty and silence that some Catholic monks take, being examples of artificially twisted humbleness.
I'd consider Satanism as the polar example of artificially twisted egotism.
As much as some in here are irritated by it, the Buddhist doctrine of The Middle Way is the ideal, as applied to behavioral philosophy.
Excessively deviating to either side of it brings needless suffering.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-05-20 14:40
(and the internal monologue is what feeds egotism. therefore if we follow Jung's argument, it is the real continuing danger to humanity...our ideas about ourselves)
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u/ShimmeringMind
1 points2021-05-20 15:04
Both Good and Evil are a part of our nature and are necessary.
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u/AnotherAtreyu
5 points2021-05-20 20:57
Being/Doing is a part of our nature (and necessary); Good and Evil are psychological constructs and have no place in objective reality imo.
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u/NightComprehensive52
1 points2022-02-04 14:28
Sure ig, but under this context man does not have to be so destructive. We have self awareness and the ability to improve. Saying “both good and evil are apart of our nature and are necessary” feel more like an excuse to not become a better person
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u/ShimmeringMind
1 points2022-02-04 14:30
You didn't understand what I meant. I wasn't advocating for evil I said it was simply a part of our nature.
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u/NightComprehensive52
1 points2022-02-04 14:37
I wasnt saying you were advocating for it. I was saying that this sort of saying is more of an excuse to not change given the context of this vid, or an attempt at sounding “deep.”
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u/danl999
4 points2021-05-20 15:27
So that's what he looked like!
I read his story about the Zen guy arguing with the Hindu guy about whether enlightenment was permanent, when I was 10. My dad had a "weird book" library.
Meher Baba was in there too.
"Don't worry, be happy."
Meher seems to have gone off the deep end, due to being a cult leader.
Like the guy up in Oregon, who started predicting aids would kill 30% of the world population, Meher also created doomsday prophecies.
Or the Japanese guru who had people poison the subways. You wouldn't expect the Japanese to get so bent out of shape over nonsense, but then there was that little WWII thing...
My theory is, Gurus get a little tired and want excitement, so they make up exciting predictions to keep their followers happy.
If people act on them, Jung's claim that all evil comes from man comes true.
That's what I disliked about "the fliers". It fit into that category of a guru trying to motivate the troops.
But in the case of Carlos, the cure for the fliers was to become a better person.
I have to think Carlos planned it that way, undoubtedly aware of how gurus make up enemies which can lead to actual trouble in the world.
Which reminds me. The Russians do that too.
Last time I was there, they were fussing with Ukraine, and Putin needed a distraction.
So some black soccer player beat up some white soccer players, and they made it into some sort of race issue in the press.
To take Ukraine off the minds of Russians (if that's even possible).
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u/Hare_Krishna_Handjob
0 points2021-05-20 16:48
Uh, your observations on Eastern Religions, and Meher Baba, are utterly personal and completely subjective, with little support in reality. Lest anybody other than yourself imagine otherwise. Your interesting experiences and understandings re. Castenada notwithstanding.
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u/danl999
6 points2021-05-20 17:28
Show me. Put your money where your mouth is.
Where are there people learning magic, that you can see, and listen to their discussions, using eastern religions?
Not some confused Zen forum where someone got a tingle in their foot, or a place where they go on and on about the wisdom of the Chinese.
I mean, where you can see that people are learning this "wisdom", and it works, and they have tips.
Short of knowing a place like that, I don't see where you have the authority to talk like that.
Seems more like your book deal mind got upset because it felt under attack.
And your user name says a lot about you.
It says, "Flasher".
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u/[deleted]
1 points2021-05-24 16:40deleted
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u/danl999
1 points2021-05-24 17:10
Go away.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-05-24 17:45
I deleted their comment and banned them.
FYI and an example for anyone who thinks this harsh. Why should the people who run, say the My Little Pony subreddit, tolerate someone coming in and trash talking My Little Pony, if they don't have to?
If you don't like My little Pony, then go somewhere else. Most stable people don't feel the need to insult the stuff other people are jazzed about and interested in, even if they themselves aren't.
Life's short. Don't was your energy if you have a choice.
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u/[deleted]
1 points2021-05-24 18:25deleted
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u/[deleted]
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u/danl999
2 points2021-05-24 18:36
I love my little pony!!!
Especially her adventure sets with swings and castles, and plastic food.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-05-24 18:57
I had to report them to the Reddit administrators.
After I banned them they used another pre-existing account, just to post another comment insulting everyone in here.
Ban evasion it's taken very seriously by the administrators.
To other future trolls who may be reading this; it's not worth being permanently banned from Reddit, just to get your rocks off.
But then again what do I know about how the mind of a troll works.
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u/danl999
2 points2021-05-24 20:26
Probably paranoid schizophrenia.
Cholita does it occasionally. She's always in the right, but it's still wrong to attack people randomly on social media, and accuse them of being a fraud.
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u/danl999
2 points2021-05-24 22:51
I just got the email snippet of his deleted post.
Those go out before you could delete the one in here.
Too bad we can't experiment on people like that!
The snippet was something like, "Why should I believe you... Fairies... "
You could private chat them and say it's URGENT!!!
And warn them we were targeting a different guy with our con, but they're going to mess it all up.
And it's a CIA operation involving national security, so they could end up with jail time if they don't stay out of this subreddit now that they've been warned.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-05-25 09:21
I got a snippet in my notifications of yet another (third) scathing reply from yet another account of theirs. But when I clicked on it, it dead ended (was gone already). That is proof that Reddit's enforcement systems are working, as they informed me they would take (quick!) disciplinary action against this user.
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u/danl999
3 points2021-05-25 15:19
Wow. Imagine the staff required to do that. I mean, there's got to be malicious requests to ban someone, and they have to actually read some.
Now, if we end up with a reddit investigator in here wanting to learn, that'll be quite interesting.
I was thinking, when I read it a long time ago, that don Juan's fear modern man would behave like people did in the inquisition, was kind of silly.
I don't think so anymore. Magic is hated. It always comes under attack.
And we've seen how mobs can work themselves up these days, and start destroying things.
That guy would light the fire to burn one of us, if someone else set up the wood.
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u/adanipse
1 points2021-05-20 23:22
Ain’t it the truth though.
It’s really a choice, but even that choice is muddled because man is so easily tempted.
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u/fractal_anon
1 points2021-05-21 10:05
I'd read that before the Zoroastrians there was no concept of 'good' and 'evil'. Not the way we are conceptually taught itthese days.
Could this be a more modern phenomena?
Instead of really understanding that whatever words we use - at the end of the day good and evil are the very same thing. Just at different ends of the same scale.
Anyone read the hermetic pricinples?
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u/Gnos_Yidari
1 points2021-05-21 10:37
good and evil are the very same thing.
Overly righteous individuals bent on demonstrating their piety are just as driven by the ego/learned self as those who compulsively commit heinous acts.
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Man is also the only one aware of the concept of evil
What is evil?
And egotism is the primary fuel behind it.
Definition:
An exaggerated opinion of your own importance
=self-importance, swelled head
An inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others
=ego, self-importance
[\u00a9 WordWebSoftware.com]
Exaggerated/inflated being the key adjectives. We also, concurrently, shouldn't think of ourselves as being less than others.
The humility of a Jainist monk who refuses to even accidentally kill insects, or of the vows of poverty and silence that some Catholic monks take, being examples of artificially twisted humbleness.
I'd consider Satanism as the polar example of artificially twisted egotism.
As much as some in here are irritated by it, the Buddhist doctrine of The Middle Way is the ideal, as applied to behavioral philosophy.
Excessively deviating to either side of it brings needless suffering.
(and the internal monologue is what feeds egotism. therefore if we follow Jung's argument, it is the real continuing danger to humanity...our ideas about ourselves)
Both Good and Evil are a part of our nature and are necessary.
Being/Doing is a part of our nature (and necessary); Good and Evil are psychological constructs and have no place in objective reality imo.
Sure ig, but under this context man does not have to be so destructive. We have self awareness and the ability to improve. Saying “both good and evil are apart of our nature and are necessary” feel more like an excuse to not become a better person
You didn't understand what I meant. I wasn't advocating for evil I said it was simply a part of our nature.
I wasnt saying you were advocating for it. I was saying that this sort of saying is more of an excuse to not change given the context of this vid, or an attempt at sounding “deep.”
So that's what he looked like!
I read his story about the Zen guy arguing with the Hindu guy about whether enlightenment was permanent, when I was 10. My dad had a "weird book" library.
Meher Baba was in there too.
"Don't worry, be happy."
Meher seems to have gone off the deep end, due to being a cult leader.
Like the guy up in Oregon, who started predicting aids would kill 30% of the world population, Meher also created doomsday prophecies.
Or the Japanese guru who had people poison the subways. You wouldn't expect the Japanese to get so bent out of shape over nonsense, but then there was that little WWII thing...
My theory is, Gurus get a little tired and want excitement, so they make up exciting predictions to keep their followers happy.
If people act on them, Jung's claim that all evil comes from man comes true.
That's what I disliked about "the fliers". It fit into that category of a guru trying to motivate the troops.
But in the case of Carlos, the cure for the fliers was to become a better person.
I have to think Carlos planned it that way, undoubtedly aware of how gurus make up enemies which can lead to actual trouble in the world.
Which reminds me. The Russians do that too.
Last time I was there, they were fussing with Ukraine, and Putin needed a distraction.
So some black soccer player beat up some white soccer players, and they made it into some sort of race issue in the press.
To take Ukraine off the minds of Russians (if that's even possible).
Uh, your observations on Eastern Religions, and Meher Baba, are utterly personal and completely subjective, with little support in reality. Lest anybody other than yourself imagine otherwise. Your interesting experiences and understandings re. Castenada notwithstanding.
Show me. Put your money where your mouth is.
Where are there people learning magic, that you can see, and listen to their discussions, using eastern religions?
Not some confused Zen forum where someone got a tingle in their foot, or a place where they go on and on about the wisdom of the Chinese.
I mean, where you can see that people are learning this "wisdom", and it works, and they have tips.
Short of knowing a place like that, I don't see where you have the authority to talk like that.
Seems more like your book deal mind got upset because it felt under attack.
And your user name says a lot about you.
It says, "Flasher".
[removed]
Go away.
I deleted their comment and banned them.
FYI and an example for anyone who thinks this harsh. Why should the people who run, say the My Little Pony subreddit, tolerate someone coming in and trash talking My Little Pony, if they don't have to?
If you don't like My little Pony, then go somewhere else. Most stable people don't feel the need to insult the stuff other people are jazzed about and interested in, even if they themselves aren't.
Life's short. Don't was your energy if you have a choice.
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I love my little pony!!!
Especially her adventure sets with swings and castles, and plastic food.
I had to report them to the Reddit administrators.
After I banned them they used another pre-existing account, just to post another comment insulting everyone in here.
Ban evasion it's taken very seriously by the administrators.
To other future trolls who may be reading this; it's not worth being permanently banned from Reddit, just to get your rocks off.
But then again what do I know about how the mind of a troll works.
Probably paranoid schizophrenia.
Cholita does it occasionally. She's always in the right, but it's still wrong to attack people randomly on social media, and accuse them of being a fraud.
I just got the email snippet of his deleted post.
Those go out before you could delete the one in here.
Too bad we can't experiment on people like that!
The snippet was something like, "Why should I believe you... Fairies... "
You could private chat them and say it's URGENT!!!
And warn them we were targeting a different guy with our con, but they're going to mess it all up.
And it's a CIA operation involving national security, so they could end up with jail time if they don't stay out of this subreddit now that they've been warned.
I got a snippet in my notifications of yet another (third) scathing reply from yet another account of theirs. But when I clicked on it, it dead ended (was gone already). That is proof that Reddit's enforcement systems are working, as they informed me they would take (quick!) disciplinary action against this user.
Wow. Imagine the staff required to do that. I mean, there's got to be malicious requests to ban someone, and they have to actually read some.
Now, if we end up with a reddit investigator in here wanting to learn, that'll be quite interesting.
I was thinking, when I read it a long time ago, that don Juan's fear modern man would behave like people did in the inquisition, was kind of silly.
I don't think so anymore. Magic is hated. It always comes under attack.
And we've seen how mobs can work themselves up these days, and start destroying things.
That guy would light the fire to burn one of us, if someone else set up the wood.
Ain’t it the truth though.
It’s really a choice, but even that choice is muddled because man is so easily tempted.
I'd read that before the Zoroastrians there was no concept of 'good' and 'evil'. Not the way we are conceptually taught itthese days.
Could this be a more modern phenomena?
Instead of really understanding that whatever words we use - at the end of the day good and evil are the very same thing. Just at different ends of the same scale.
Anyone read the hermetic pricinples?
Overly righteous individuals bent on demonstrating their piety are just as driven by the ego/learned self as those who compulsively commit heinous acts.