So lately i have been darkroom gazing, and very often i get a lot of naked women and pussies flying around. LITERALLY.
And i kinda don't know how to feel about stuff like that.
Mostly because of wet dreams. You see i don't have sex with myself, so most of the time i save my sexual energy.
But there are exceptions.
But since i usually save up a lot of sexual energy, i would randomly get a wet dream and lose some of it.
To people that don't know what a wet dream i, it is a sexual dream where you have an orgasm in real life.
So i was just wondering about the nature of those things.
The scientific explanation is that the body wants sometimes get rid of the old semen quickly so it produces a wet dream.
The spiritual explanation on the other hand is that a spirit or a demon aka IOB has sex with you or puts you into its own phantom world to then somehow steal you sexual energy.
And since most IOB are female it makes sense to some degree.
But still i was just wondering what is y'all theories on this. Since if it's the second explanation to where my energy get stollen, i would then like to know how to avoid it. Or if it's even that bad.
And also how damaging is it to "lose" your sexual energy or if it actually has any effect on dreaming or darkroom or moving the AP in general.
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Dude just jerk off. The witches here are tired of the men getting distracted by titties lol
But for real why don’t u figure it out urself and see if it affects energy in darkroom. Do an experiment
The fantasizing is the main problem, the mental distraction of it. That's the energy that we're using in here, not the physical (per se).
It's a part of being alive. And the various go-to physical release mechanisms 🥴 are at least efficient, if not long lasting.
You don't pontificate about why you have to take a shit or a whiz, you just do it!
It really does help to avoid related extraneous sensory stimulation whenever possible, anything feeding into it, such as over-consumption of porn for example.
It's unnatural, the digitally-enabled level of it all.
But our hormone monsters have the last say, depending on individual circumstances.
Porn is never good. Not even if watched once a month. Its an overstimulation and there are several studies about the bad effects of porn in the brain.
For me as a male it works to practice semen retention, and the trick is to not indulge in sexual thoughts. If you have them, be aware of them and let them go, don't feed them.
If you save your sexual energy you can then transmute it, and use that energy for whatever you want to put it on (creativity, endurance, strength, carisma, centered, etc..)
But the only way you can really find out is if you do it yourself. The goal is 90 days without PMO (porn, masturbation, orgasm), and its a challenging but rewarding path. The trick is to not peak or indulge in sexual thoughts.
And after those 90 days you will probably not want to break your streak.
Finally someone who understands
Im not sure I understand one point, how is porn overstimulating? Is it more stimulating that real sex?
Because you get to choose what you want to see, when you want to see.
I do know how it effect you indeed.
I am guessing that you are female.
The thing is, it's an actual effect. Not q joke like you might think.
It's the same if i take the effect of menstruation like a joke.
Of course it's not that major, but it is desireble to save up a lot of sexual energy.
Remember when DJ talked about it. How it's foolish to waste it. I mean in my age i could have sex frequently, but here is the thing.
You see normal sex has really not to many drawback for men, but watching porn and jerking off literally infects the mind so much, it literally makes you more horny even after doing it.
But here is the biggest draw back. Sexual energy is literally so potent, you can use ut to move your AP.
Remember that one of the reasons the Elias was such a good dreamer was he used this energy.
Saving up this energy literally makes you feel so good you can't really imagine, but you would have to do it for a long time to feel it.
Elias was partnered with the witch Amalia, and they had intimate relations. Probably regularly.
Proof: they were having sex in a closet when the nagual Rosendo made his serious miscalculation.
Namely the combination of Elias being a nagual himself (with extra energy), and that they sneakily were getting it on (adding even more energy), sparked off when he "engaged a scout, in dreaming, and commanded it to transport his disciples into the second attention by displacing their assemblage points on the proper position (to help them)."
They couldn't refuse that.
All-in-one PDF, starting on page 1219
I hope you know that, that reference didn't conflict with what i said in any way.
I was just suggesting that people should stop watching porn and rather have real life sex. That's all.
And i wasn't referring to that. Actually nevermind about Elias.
I am pretty sure DJ said pretty clearly that you shouldn't waste it.
And in modern day society, almost every male wastes it daily.
It just makes them weaker in the long run. But some have no clue.
So here is an example.
You have 4 types of people.
Watches porn daily and masturbates
Watches porn from time to time, but does it only on impulse.
A true legend. abstains from porn knowing the harm of it and masturbating, and only has real life sex.
Completely celebrate, a person who couldn't care less about sex and other impulses.
And to be honest, if your smart you will be on 3 or 4, but 2 is not that much worse either.
3 when young and 4 when older.
But if you are on 1 then.......
Your stupid,
simple.
A secret: u can jerk off with out watching porn. Just an urge that gets taken care of. Don’t make it into a thing and give it energy
you give it energy by making it an issue, is it? I jerked off before recapitulating and it seems harder for me to move my AP
Eastern religion or medicine practice teaches basically every time you masturbate you lose chi... That you don't ever get back...
If this is true.... I'd be dead.
Most teenagers would look 40.... Etc.. Masturbation can have healthy effects as well like potentially helping protect against prostate cancer...
However, I think there needs to be a balance. Sex is healthier than masturbation though, the semen during sex has different chemical makeup I believe and better health benefits.
The best way to not be distracted by your hormones is knock one off, maybe I'm old but I'm good for a few days and don't even think about it...
As I see it sexual energy saved may or may not help, sexual frustration pent up is an imbalance though that also could stop you from success... Again it comes back to balance, and trial and error...
I also visualize often that vines with leaves come up through the ground, lightly hug my ankles and fill me with energy.... In the dark I grab every puff and feel for cobwebs... My wife even says I steal her energy when I'm sleeping.
I'm a bit of an empath, sometimes greedy though... Unfortunately I also take any pain she has with the energy... (Sympathy pain is real)...
My point is: if you only had one tank of energy.... What's the point of gathering energy from nature etc?? Energy can be replenished...
I do think it makes sense to think about lengthening the times between just so you're less tied to bodily needs etc.... But it's a personal decision..... It's your path... If anything ask the IOBs maybe they'll give you a hint...
I mean could be... You'll get further by abstaining and I'll get further by releasing regularly... No two people travel the same journey... Reality is subjective, could be through intent of you believe life force dies with ejaculation, just your belief creates enough intent to make it so...
I grew up Mormon though. Plenty of self hate over masturbating, when I left the church oddly I no longer considered it a sin and it actually became less fun or less of a need.... Of course I was 37 then so again maybe I'm just old and losing my libido...
"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same."
Don Juan Matus
Great quote, but it unfortunately doesn’t answer the question
The point being that it's as much about what you DON'T do as what you constructively do.
Alright, but the question is whether the act itself is constructive or not. In some cases it seems that you are better off satisfying your needs, while others say it is always best to practice disciple, but then again, what if it gets in your way while trying to be silent... and so on. Daoism and buddhism state that it is best not to waste your precious energy, while it is unclear what don juan’s opinion was. Dan says that it does not matter, as long as you don’t watch porn.
Actually Dan just repeated Carlos' point that with porn there is a tendency for it escalate (or degenerate) until you find yourself consuming more and more disturbing content.
I know, but it occurs to me that I was having a higher quality of life without any thoughts of sex or girls in general. In conclusion, my experience does not support neither dan’s nor castaneda’s statements that it does not really matter. It may be due to my beliefs, but I saw some scientific studies that do claim men have a better concentration and think more clearly while abstaining. In the end there is just one question: how does one direct the accumulated energy in something constructive. Eastern esoterics have some techniques, but all seem too strenuous to me. I am just looking for something that works and that it does not take too much. Also, I have to admit being disappointed with the lack of consensus. I thought there were some universal truths regarding these basic human activities.
Indeed, I know the situation. But in my experience, there is no point in resisting your own nature. It's a fight that costs unnecessary energy. In fact, I could see some correlation between sexual activity and out-of-body experiences. I know, I shouldn't say the latter anymore, so therefore I'll call it second attention. So, whenever I didn't care what my hormones wanted, the chances were higher to have experiences in the second attention. That means neither indulging in fantasies nor fighting against instinct. If you don't make sexuality a big deal, it isn't possessive either. All in all, it wasn't what I expected.
I am waiting for Dan’s answer
r/semenretention is an insightful place to look
Regarding the sorcery teachings, it is explicitly mentioned that sexual energy is the energy used for dreaming. A loss of that energy can be directly correlated to depreciated attention and/or personal power.
It is lost because of fantasies and thought that inspire sexually oriented mind-states, locking the (second) attention in a fantasy.
In my opinion, it's just good to get this stuff under control. For all kinds of reasons.
We've all been living in a sexually over-stimulated world and it's good to put this stuff back in it's rightful place.
You could start by reminding yourself, when the naked women and pussies start to show up in the dark room, or in your mind at any time, that you're not having sex at this particular moment and there's no real reason to be aroused.