From my experience, people who believe in reincarnation easily become violent.
It's a false belief with no good basis. If you look around honestly, that becomes obvious. For starters, try Wikipedia, but you won't be familiar with the names mentioned, so it takes a bit more than that to understand the origins.
But some have chosen to believe it as an act of religious faith. Because life hurts, and they're frightened in many cases. Mental illness is common among those interested in such things.
And religion really sucks! It's a parasite on society, which serves some tiny useful purpose, but in the end keeps people from actual happiness.
It's a pitiful substitute for the magic we lost, when we took up agriculture.
Worse, it's easy to fake up your own reincarnation memory and go around boasting to your friends about it.
You become a mini Victor Sanchez, who has endless books on "Toltec Sorcery", and can't afford to admit he was a fraud all along. Even though it's become more and more obvious each day.
Reincarnation enthusiasts are in that boat. It's either fist fight, or admit they were fooled. Or worse, that they lied to others.
When crossed, they're likely to tell themselves they're standing up for the Buddha, the wisest man in history.
Except, he wasn't... And that only angers them more.
With the type of raging internal dialogue it takes to uphold religious beliefs, it's not out of the question they'd get into a physical fight to defend their beliefs.
Carlos had to have bodyguards. I've even been threatened.
Sure, most will just brush it off once they realize it's not true, and even makes no sense.
But to realize that they need to learn enough sorcery to actually travel around other realities.
In other words, they need to become more powerful than the people they are clinging to, who are telling them there's such a thing as reincarnation.
Carlos fought against 2 very sinister forces in private classes.
Of the two, belief in reincarnation was the most dangerous.
He was obviously worried when he tried to take it on.
From what I've learned over time, worried not only about losing students (unlike this subreddit, he had a limited supply), but worried about physical violence.
Typically he'd leave the topic alone, unless we had "important" visitors from Europe. Who had to go home soon.
They're obsessed with reincarnation over there. Maybe the proximity to India increases it.
He'd gently try to point out it was a silly idea, but as far as I know, he never succeeded.
They were "better than everyone" because they had their own reincarnation stories. So even if they didn't understand sorcery, it doesn't matter.
They were already halfway to their "goal".
They were "Book Deal Mind Zombies".
The other topic he battled was Catholicism.
Catholicism is a bit harder to battle, because any sorcerer can travel to view God and Heaven, as often as he likes. So he can't say it's not true.
Just point out the inconsistencies, and try to convince people, even if there was Heaven, it's not a very nice place to live.
When a sorcerer travels to "past lives", he quickly learns they are not.
They're cyclic beings, and the delusions about being back in time, or whatever other "evidence" reincarnation fans come up with, turns out to be a tiny bit of a shapeshifting hangover.
Stay on the rusty old tracks... There's only one rail system leading to Tenochtitlan, via Soconusco.
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But it is fair to say he was pre-eminent in being constructively guilt-ridden, and responsible.
I love the stuff he supposedly said, and he had honest real magic.
But he didn't know about the assemblage point.
And he was gullible and believed in reincarnation, a myth created back in Iran around 4000 years ago, by displaced Ishtarians. Ishtar, the goddess who fell to earth as an egg.
And he created a nasty money hungry empire, filled with fakers exploiting unhappy people.
His temples sell children for sex in most Asian countries, and exploit sorry women openly in confessional booths outside the temple at night.
The boys given to service there, such as to beat drums at funerals, are all molested by monks, and grow up to be angry gangsters.
It's a very ugly religion if you get past the Asian fog, and take an honest look at it.
If the Catholic church was 1/4th as bad as the Buddhist church, it would have been taken down by Europeans long ago.
If you have nothing, I suppose Buddhism and Hinduism are your only common options for magical technology.
But I wonder if you might not be better off with Enochian magic, at the hands of Celtic witch descendants.
Give me a real witch over a Buddhist master any day.
I am not religious by any means, but this has honestly eye opening, that people treat the belief in reincarnation with such reverence.
I myself do believe in reincarnation per se, but not as an absolute. I guess you coule say I have more of a strong belief in it, due to some inclinations and nostalgia I've felt in life towards certain place/events/peoples, but no actual memories (or imaginations) of a past life. But I am open to being wrong in that belief.
I also didn't know that Europeans believed so much in reincarnation (then again, I've never been to Europe so I wouldn't know either way).
I now wonder if Brazilians are the same, since a great number of them believe in Spiritism, by the late Allen Kardec.
Brazilians are very practical, as are many in south america.
They tossed the buddhism out of martial arts, and kicked asian butt over and over.
So I would hope they aren't taken in by it.
Spiritism isn't Asian.
Allan Kardec was a French guy who was into science and a lot of other things.
One day he used a psyhic medium who was under trance and possed to talk to a spirit. From that he wrote a book called Spiritism, which was compiled with literally about 1,000 questions he asked the spirit.
The questions ranged from god, the origin of the earth, life on other planets, etc. this was in the 1800s
A "channeler".
There's a lot of con artists who take that up.
It was popular in the 1800s.
If you actually study magical history, you'll realize there was a turning point with the witch burning period.
It's been a while since I studied it (Carlos asked me to along with the rest of that day's class), but that was partly caused by printing presses.
By the bible being available to everyone, instead of just the priests.
So you had "amateurs" pointing out, "It says right here! Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!"
(Actually it's closer to "poisoner" in the original language).
So hysteria spread about for a while. The church even used it to seize land from widows.
As it started to end, the printing presses were free, and magical texts were fabricated left and right.
There's an encyclopedia known as "Esoterica", and one called, "Calvin's", as I recall.
They list such publications from Europe in the 1800s.
I looked through all if it. Only 2 genuine magic books were in there, that I could find.
Out of thousands of books.
Pitiful it was.
Anyway, the Castaneda community is full of "Allan Kardec" type people.
They're still sociopaths, regardless of their side job(s).
If he impresses you, take a glance through Esoterica.
There's nothing special about that guy.
Could be like Miguel Ruiz in our community, who has sold the most phony sorcery books.
But that doesn't make him just as much of a fraud as Armando, who hasn't sold very many, and actually attended a lecture where Carlos spoke.
Allan Kardec does not impress me. Whether he was fooled by a charlatan witch or communicated with a an actual spirit, the answers he was given are misleading.
I'm confused how reincarnation isn't any more amenable than the abyss of darkness or coming back as a spaghetti noodle ,just because someone says otherwise
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You know there are those, who take the reincarnation topic and stretch it to include past lives on other planets as parts of different alien civilizations.
I sure hope they stay out of this reddit. I get tired of fighting people on childish ego trips.
Give me a Xoxonapo any day (the death defier). Maybe he's on an ego trip, but it's well deserved and backed up b y real magic.
I thought the world could tolerate one place where you can actually learn magic, and you can see that upfront. Like this subreddit.
It's unlike any other place.
But the trouble makers just see a better place to try to get attention for themselves.
They never notice, it's like an extremely rare red flower, growing on a heap of trash.
They just want to yank it out and stick it in their lapel.
I'm afraid to say, the people you are referring to not only would do that, but they already have one of those "Clown flowers" that squirts water on their lapel, in case they need to piss on someone.
Had 2 in the last 3 days. One posted about his jerkoff experience, and the other said he was pleased he could give me a blow job, when I pointed out his angry nonsense.
So if you think there are peaceful people like you describe, you haven't gone around much.
I have a friend who's made around $2M in digital coin startups lately.
He's in the discussion group for other paths they might take.
He's encountering exactly the same problem I have in here. Really awful people, trying to control things and get fame.
Digital coins are supposed to be decentralized, but they want full control.
So it's not really the topic in particular. Not magic specifically that brings out rotten people.
People just really suck!
It's because magic was taken away from all of civilization, and without it people go nuts trying to control others.
Including trying to extend reincarnation to what we now know about the universe, and claiming it's from their own cool superpowers.
Yeah, one of my goals is to travel the world and it's always gotten stemmed somehow. I don't see myself as sheltered as much as I always want to see the good side of people.
I am sorry thay response from OP made me lmfao! But in hindsight, trolls will be found in any subreddit or even outside of reddit regardless of subject material being discussed. The good thing is, those keyboard warriors, are rarely that confrontational in person. But one should still exercise caution when dealing with them online.
Mostly I worry for Cholita.
A spaghetti noodle doesn't have a chance in hell. So assuming that you're ground under as it were and recycled into one, rather than having a supply of other chances (lives), really helps motivation.
Reincarnation can poison the drive to accomplish in this life, just as much as the belief in a default afterlife.
Reincarnation is real in a way. Not as they view it.
Since the eagle eats us, if we die. It basically recycles all the eaten emanation and makes new awareness out of it i am pretty sure.
So we don't get reborn as in our soul finds a different body, but we get recycled as in our energy gets probably smashed into pieces, mixed with other filaments and reused.
I am not sure where in the book i red this, but pretty sure it's there.
It's reasonable.
But all we know from the books is, our memories are eaten. Not our awareness.
Losing our awareness too seems to be an accident. Not intended by the Eagle.
It's not clear what happens to the awareness, as far as I can recall from the books.
One theory I saw, is that it expands to be too large to be useful to anything.
But at this point, I can't remember how I saw that.
I was searching for Cholita's double, and it was "out of scale".
Imagine if you grew to be so large, you encompassed 7 galaxies.
That's what I saw. That if you have no egg shell, you could keep expanding until you were pretty much gone.
Our memories hold us in shape a while after the awareness is released from the broken open shell, but once those memories are eaten, there's nothing to keep our attention on this place.
Attention, awareness. That's the problem. We don't understand much of this.
But what I saw is that we can expand. Anything we perceive gives a little tug to that portion of awareness, in that direction. But the rest doesn't have to follow, because there's no shell to pull it along.
It's like tying a big soft, thick rope around 10 children in the park. Not too tight, so they can move around a bit.
If one runs towards the slides, the rope tugs the others over there.
But if two on the other side run towards the swings, they can over come the kid who wants to run to the slide.
With no rope, the kids will "expand" until you can't find them anymore. It's a huge park!
I got the impression, that's why sorcerers have to hide in the earth's "shell" after they escape the eagle.
And why the death defier could inhabit Carol Tiggs.
And how you can become a double being if a sibling dies in the womb before us.
We just need a container, to hold our "scale" and make us function as a unit of awareness.
But seeing out of context isn't very useful.
I might as well be making it up, for all the good it will do us.
Like the first time Carlos saw, at the request of don Juan.
Wasn't there a poodle in that vision?
Or my little gnat I saw, when Carlos asked us to try.
I have no idea why I saw that, but fortunately, Carlos verified it was in fact seeing.
If what Lily is teaching me turns out to be true, I can add that to what Fancy taught me, and what Mystery explained, to see if it's worthwhile to believe inorganic beings and what they teach.
We know for a fact, what Fairy teaches is useful. This subreddit is only here functioning like this, because of her teaching me.
But "teach" is a difficult word to apply to what they do.
"Trick" might be more accurate.
Maybe they can't lie. But you have to know for sure what they're saying and what it applies to, before you can call it a "fact".
Once we get a feel for that, and weed out bad players who make up stuff (an impossible task?), we could simply ask them whatever we want to know.
Lily claims, she knows everything the old seers knew. And that's automatic for any IOB reasonably matched to us.
We're the stupid ones, not them.
She offered to teach us everything, in story form.
Says, it can't be taught one fact at a time.
I just started drawing up what she wanted, to see if it has any influence on her tonight.
But IOBs are like flaky lovers.
They promise you a wonderful night, and then after you get all ready in the evening expecting them to call, they don't.
I'll almost be relieved if she blows me off tonight.
I didn't get much continuous sleep last night.
I kept waking up to ask her if what she said was REALLY true.
She just waited around while I was sleeping.
They don't usually do that.
I remember as a child pulling out a book from my parents' shelf that was about near-death experiences and was written quite scientifically. I've since been able to identify it via the internet, it was from Raymond A. Moody. I'd have to reread it to avoid talking nonsense, but there are some interesting aspects that stuck in my mind. I know by now that you don't like "out-of-body", and by dark room I also find it no longer entirely accurate, but that was one of the reported phenomena. Others were tunnels to travel through, deceased people and angels to meet. One also reads something about tunnels in Castaneda's books. The other seems to be IOBs. And then there was the "movie" of the whole own life, kinda review. Probably what one wants to take in advance by recap. This phenomenon seems to be when the memories are eaten. There was more, but as I said, I'd have to read the book again. My female neighbor had a near-death experience when she gave birth to her daughter. Her information coincided with my memories concerning this book. She also reported a light, love, joy and peace. She has lost all fear of death. But she has probably no idea about Castaneda.
The assemblage point would have to move as you were dying.
That's what they're experiencing.
And like IOBs, what you see when the assemblage point moves is a new cluster or skimming of emanations, selected by the strongest organizing "intent" you find at that point.
We can't assemble a world ourselves. It would be like trying to figure out you are looking at a tree, one pixel at a time.
And against our common sense, there is in fact no reality as we know it.
No "out there". Just "out there possibilities".
So while it may seem interesting to analyze near death experiences, all you're looking at is the phantom skimmings of emanations of a dying person, which are highly culturally influenced.
If you looked around the world, you'd probably see that near death experiences have even less in common, when you look at all cultures.
The tribe at Morongo for example, would expect to fly over a dry lake bed, to meet the Kachinas.
And in fact, as a kid I heard one of them say that's what happened, when he almost died.
Interesting! I had already figured this out for myself before I got in here. I defined it for myself that every culture is a substitute for the real nature. I thought it was funny to have found the culture-nature pair because Don Juan said that we pair everything because of the double.
EDIT:
I belatedly remembered reading in the press about cases where children could remember "past lifes". Like this two articles in whose stories are also found evidence:
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/asia/story/3-year-old-remembers-past-life-identifies-killer-location-of-body-193650-2014-05-20
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1209795/Reincarnated-Our-son-World-War-II-pilot-come-life.html
Does what those children report have to do with what you call "cyclic beings"? I'm not sure if I've understood correctly. It reminds me of a passage in the Castaneda books where something was written about "changelings" or whatever it's called properly. It's also interesting to read how the one boy describes how he chose his parents.
There's always pushy parents creating the fantasy, when I've checked it out. And a willing "researcher".
Since there is no reincarnation there's guaranteed to be something else going on, and it's a lot of work to try to get to the truth.
Could be an IOB talking to them for all we know. But most likely, a schizophrenic mom.
Look at what they wrote about the Buddha after he was dead.
Someone made up the story that when he was just a small child, he stood up and announced to everyone this would be his last birth.
Does anyone really believe that?
Part of how you get attacked for magic, is direct. The kind we see in here, and the kind you feel when your family discusses the topic.
The other part is sheer greed and deception, like these stories of past lives designed to pull you away from the real thing, and towards make believe magic.
I'm not even sure why these are popular.
So what? Is the kid going to teach anyone, anything at all?
Is it just for hero worship, a substitute for magic?
Are we supposed to run out, and bow to the Dali Lama, after reading that?
Might as well have been a story about the wealthiest kid in the world, for all the good it will do anyone.
I agree with everything you said in this post. In fairness to Buddha, anything outside of the early Buddhist texts (so basically all of Mahayana, Zen, and Tibetan Buddhism, is made up and not what he taught. Doesn't mean he's a guy I'd want to follow, but A LOT of crazy baggage has been added to his teachings.
Is there a clear account of what he was up to out there?
I'd love to read it.
But essentially, he got book dealed.
And, there's no buddhists getting anywhere with his techniques, if you look at it honestly.
They get to the green zone, by interrupting the internal dialogue.
I've never seen anyone get further.
And they become mega bad players, who attack if you point out, no one can do anything. And you tell them, if you just look over here, you'll see that it's nearly the same, except in fact it works.
If someone came to me and said what was in here was nothing, and I ought to look over there, I'd trip running to the computer to see.
When someone doesn't want to see more powerful magic than they have, it means they're bad players, and magic is not what they are actually interested in.
It's attention from other people.
But I suppose if you look at everything in other systems, Buddhism and Qabalah would be what you would have to pick, in the absense of sorcery.
Or hinduism, but those guys are all over the place.
I always thought of it as a possibility...
But I'm kinda convinced reality it a simulation maybe even nested ad infinity.... Maybe all awareness is one fractured awareness eventually we join up and combine everything we've learned over eons or maybe everyone ever lived is us reincarnated.
I'm you, you're me, we were Hitler and Gandhi and Buddha and Carlos..
Maybe the universe sim is a loop, and deja Vu is us getting a glimpse of a change from the last time we repeated things...
Or maybe we just become like IOBs roaming the universe untethered aware but not attached to anything.
When I was Mormon it was comforting having a plan and knowing I was gonna be with my family, part of me still hopes there's some way I'm way off and ancestral ties remain and I'll be able to watch them and their kids grow up....
I've heard a belief once that when you die you're still hanging around and when those you care most about die and you've got nothing else to hold onto you just become like a tentacle of the universal consciousness...
I guess so energy and experiences go back to it..... It keeps your memories etc...
I'm rambling now I'm my autism, my point I'm not a believer in anything but I'm not not a believer or denier either in things nobody can prove one way or the other.
One thing I know, I don't think anything we do in life has a bearing on eternity except how long we're remembered here and maybe karma if we are reincarnated, I'd like to think Hitler was tormented but he probably wasn't.
I think anything is possible even waking up as an immortal from a VR headset that's living this life... He forgets his current existence for as long as he's me... But that could go on many levels.... This could be like a VR headset that when you take it off there's another and another and another.
All in universes with totally different laws of science and physics and stuff but that's beyond my pay grade...to know and just speculation.
Anyone who says they know just ask them to prove it definitively, nobody can so all that's proven is nobody knows but there's lots of good ideas.
You do a lot of posting, but it doesn't look like you do a lot of work to learn.
This place will cease to exist if everyone does what you are doing.
It's not an intellectual pursuit. It's not a chat room.
You can't learn sorcery by thinking about it, or by analyzing it.
In fact, those prevent learning it.
I'd love to see you analyzing the crystalline dreaming fog.
Or trying to figure out the depth at which IOBs can manifest.
But instead, you're imitating esoteric entertainment blogs that have nothing to teach.
This reminded me.
Carlos was always dead against discussion groups, which in the long run seems prophetic.
It was the discussion group on sustained action that became his biggest collection of attackers on his death.
But he couldn't have known that, so I used to be puzzled why he was so against them.
That post is why. You've decided the people here are just posting whatever they like, their thoughts on things, and it's just another community chat place to blow off some steam.
To make yourself feel cozy.
You've turned magic, into the same old nonsense you find anywhere.
And it seems like I'm being unduly mean to point it out.
The same way I thought Carlos was randomly grumpy when he looked displeased on hearing about chat groups.
But once you understand sorcery, you realize, that kind of chat smothers magic.
It's an "energetic mass" dissipater.
I suppose it also makes you feel like you got a little progress learning sorcery today, because you posted some stuff.
If you didn't, maybe you'd be more motivated to force off that internal dialogue and find some mysteries to discuss for real.
That's part of what killed magic in the Castaneda community.
Chatting.
death is the biggest dellusion ,everything is one in the end
And nothing is ever forgotten.
But persistence of form and awareness is the real delusion.
We have to establish that what we are is malleable enough to allow to persist. The unknown universe doesn't need a being so shackled to their existence as "Ned who works at the lawn and garden center, and whose wife and kids are his life," beyond the city of Peoria, Illinois.
Such a being wouldn't be useful for the purposes then at hand.
It needs the matured version of the spark that he was before the human world started wearing him down.
So what would be the sensations of deja vu (feeling that you have already experienced this situation) if you could explain to me?
I am from Europe and I understand why Carlos had to fight against reincarnation
The people here (from what I personally saw) like Jacobo Grinberg who has a book on reincarnations, I believed at times in reincarnation (because of a story from my mother, when I was in search of spirituality)
But now that I think about it, it's just one more method of pretending, I firmly believe in the truth that Don Juan and Carlos told, and the one that continues here.
The Deja vu you experience in your normal state of awareness, is nothing compared to what you'll experience further along the J curve.
So that "normal" variety isn't really worth thinking about too much. Could be a "leak" in awareness, could just be a memory that triggers associations from past events.
But it can also lead to pretending to have magical powers, which could reduce your urge to actually get some.
There's a category of very sincere female practitioner who destroys her chances by finding something "close enough" that helps her overcome whatever unpleasantness she was fighting.
Such as guru worship of a guru who claims to have super powers.
I saw one become an expert on which gurus to worship, who then made it her mission in life to let everyone know who to believe in.
All of them horrible thieves stealing from people like her.
But that activity of passing on their deceptions became a substitute for actually trying to get magic for herself.
She even became a "guru consultant" to earn some extra cash.
You can imagine what that woman thinks about Deja Vu. It's her proof her path is working out.
But further out on the J curve, Deja Vu is a literal passage way into an alternate timeline.
It's the "and yet" feeling don Juan spoke of as the fallback for sorcerers.
Or many other things, but it becomes fully visible out there.
You don't have to "feel" that this happened before.
You get a video on the wall.
And on a good day you can walk into it and go see first hand.
Don't skip the sunlight glitter. It's a lot easier to perceive such things when you've had your daily dose.
I am in the sun for at least 20 minutes but I do this from before, I also sometimes take a shower with cold water
It is not pleasant but it changes your levels of consciousness
the same when I am sick, I spread water on my neck and temples, and it helps most of the time.
But yes, I wanted to ask you about the inorganic worms, I spend all day walking around the house barefoot, and I even came to lie down in my patio naked in the sun (the floor is cement but I don't know the extent of these inorganic worms)
Can you recommend something to me, or should I just ignore the subject as if I had never heard of it?
psdt: aluminum foil works well to cover windows and create dark rooms, it's the cheapest method i found
That's not sunlight glitter. It's a technique. You can find it in a post in here, or in the books.
Inorganic worms?
I never ran into any.
I didn't see any either but since I usually go barefoot I was scared when I read it, I'll ignore that for now.
You didn't know that you were referring to a technique, the only one I remember is the one that Carlos used to obtain solar energy, only using his left eye.
but I'll look it up on reddit and I'll try it too, again Thank you very much for taking the time to answer, and for your knowledge.
That's the one. Squinting so that there's sparkles, and then moving the head left and right to cover the inside of the eye with those.
I believe they enhance seeing the emanations themselves, which is the start of the second attention sights.
But perhaps people have trouble seeing just a few emanations, so they don't realize that's what it does.
They see the "results" of emanations becoming visible, which is what those emanations can "re-skim" when emphasized.
But I'm not certain of that. Could be, the sunlight glitter just makes it easier to see the emanations in raw form, the same way it makes inorganic beings or dream bubbles more vivid.
We still have a controversy in here, as far as I'm concerned, on the shape of the emanations.
I thought they were infinite lines, but then someone found that "trapped in the luminous egg" quote, where the emanations are fighting to escape.
Those shapes might be a lot like sunlight glitter in how they look when seen visually.
So when you do the sunlight glitter, keep in mind that much later on, when you can move your assemblage point to the other side of your body, you'll see that the air is filled with that kind of "glitter".
It's just not "glittering" most of the time.
But you can get "darkroom glitter" from it anyway.
Just turn the head slowly left and right while watching it.
Be prepared to end up somewhere else if you do it right!
You'll switch too your double.
But only for an instant, and your tonal awareness will erase most of the memory.
It's "not allowed" to change locations like that.
I don't know if what I see are emanations, they are like roots or worms (opaque/dark), but sometimes they have another shape and appear as small bubbles, similar to the sun's rays on the inside and somewhat opaque/dark outside.
I see as if these little balls were connected, sometimes they form chains although they seem not to be connected, although I don't understand why it is so difficult for me to describe them,
I try to look at them to describe it better but looking at them thinking makes them hide. As soon as I can see them and analyze them well, I will try to draw them.
Thanks for this technique, I was looking using my eyes that way (in fact, if I don't look like that, those "opaque roots" I'm talking about don't appear), but I'll add everything you told
again, thanks for everything
Thank me by developing extra sobriety, and working extra hard.
If we can get to the point of reliable shared dreaming in the subreddit, it will be transformational.
But it will take people who can "tune in" a specific reality, using their double.
I went to the sun to try this technique, it lasted about 10 minutes maximum.
I saw more lines than normal, I fixed the view of my head on the ground light, since these lines are better seen.(and I started to look from one side to the other slowly)
I also noticed how my world began to distort (the light and shadow were mixing in a spiral but only a little)
and right after that the washing machine in my house, I push a box on one of my plants, I got up instantly without thinking.(To help the plant, the box was heavy and would not last long with the force that fell on it.)
I don't believe in coincidences, but later I tried to continue as before and I hardly saw any lines anymore, and each time they went less for what I stopped. (It's also too hot I must try this in the morning)
I have to develop more sobriety and work harder.
Hi, Dan, I wanted to ask you a question about two issues.
The first is that I performed the sweeping technique to see that energy in sunlight, I was able to pay closer attention and they are like small divided pieces, black but opaque, and while their exterior reflects darkness, the interior looks like bright bubbles, after performing the technique for a longer time each time I see more, and I see how they gradually come together, or rather they were already united only that I was able to perceive them, do you continue practicing this technique?
The second question is shorter, I am young and unfortunately I am not yet independent, the river of shit drags me easily, any advice for this?
Young means you have plenty of time.
Just do your best. If you realize "There's Gold in those Hills!", you won't forget it. Might get distracted a while, but when life goes to shit as it always will, you'll know where to go mining again.
You kind of have to hope it goes to shit sooner. So you aren't too old to do anything about it when it finally comes.
And sky gazing is not my thing.
Just make sure you charge up on those "sparkles".
Seeing stuff is also normal.
I can look for my Ally in the sunlight sparkles reflected off my cell phone.
Because it creates an additional "layer" to view it on there.
And 3 levels down, there's my ally. On a good day.
Kind of scary the first few times.
I usually perform the technique while looking at the ground, so that the sun's rays do not affect me once my vision becomes unfocused.
The light reflections you mention are different in me, they stay in my sight for a while, some are blue, others are green and turn purple, but they fade, and it depends on which flash I look at, for example if I look directly at the sun that flash remains in my sight for quite some time before fading and if I look at it with closed eyes I see a cloud of color, while with open eyes I see it but not the same bright color,
I don't know if I explained it well If I am in the darkroom and with the flashlight of my phone I shine my eyes, and I look at that flash for a few seconds, I close or leave my eyes open, that light or small cloud remains in my vision, and when I see it with closed eyes it becomes brighter and even changes between colors, (sorry for being so long)
Well, to look for gold without census, thank you
I hope you aren't shining either the sun or the light directly into your eyes!
You squint them to just a tiny slit, so that the eyelashes make sparkling lines and the light from the sun isn't bright enough to do any damage.
Could be why you're seeing unexpected stuff. It really doesn't sound like you're doing "sunlight glitter" at all.
That would be the second person to assume you look directly into the sun!
I'm not sure what can be done about that. The instructions are in the books, and in a post in this subreddit.
I can look at the sun for seconds, but I don't practice that way
I will look for the correct technique for scanning with sunlight
but what I was referring to is that, for example, I stare at the light of a lamp, I do it fixedly then I close my eyes, and a luminous cloud appears, with the same approximate size of the light of the lamp, it happens to me with any light Although I don't know if this is just something useless, once I see it with my eyes closed, I open my eyes and I keep seeing it, but it disappears little by little and that's it, and it moves depending on where I look, I don't know if this It is useless (to pretend), and it doesn't matter if I look at the light of a lamp, a candle, or whatever, this effect usually happens (clouds are usually pink, blue, purple, and green with yellow touches) and I have a memory that once I entered one of them and I saw a town, but I don't think it counted since I had my eyes closed, but I think that now you will understand it better
does this really help? Or stop looking at lights like this?
sorry for being a pain in the ass
Yea, that's not something you should be doing.
Did you get that from Taoism or some other thing where you create after images by staring at candles, and hope that will lead to seeing things without the light?
You're supposed to follow instructions. If you don't know them, you need to look them up.
And never take anything from any other system.
None of them can do anything worth learning, so there's no point in copying the mistakes of people practicing outside systems designed for stealing money.
We don't burn afterimages...
We store up energy from sunlight glitter.
It's good for at least a full day. Maybe 2.
Until you use it.
And by the time you use it, it's been many hours since you were storing it up.
So there's no connection to burning an image on your retina.
They are not images, they are like a cloud the size of light, they are usually round, I learned it trying to see, when I read Castaneda, it is something that came out on its own
I won't lie, surely pretending
I will follow your advice, I will leave that and practice the correct way with the light
thank you
No one who read Castaneda in the last 50 years, learned any sorcery at all by their own methods. Nor by listening to anyone outside Carlos and the witches.
Not even 1.
If they had, I wouldn't be stuck in here trying to fix that.
I appreciate that it is so and to be able to learn the real thing, thanks again
Hello again Dan (sorry in advance for being a pain in the ass)
I've created an image, to try to explain how I do and what I see with the sunlight technique, ignore the semi-opaque, invisible lines (since I can't represent them correctly)
clarify to any practitioner who is reading this, this is not a valid practice or technique, just an explanation for help, the real technique is on this subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/xm17n7/sunlight_glitter_revisited/
I gaze like that when I do sunlight glitter. Nothing wrong with that practice, since it makes it less boring to "charge up".
And it possible to "gaze" at anything as La Gorda famously said in the books.
Let's see how confused La Gorda was with her explanation! I found it in the collected books.
The advanced in here will realize this is an odd point of view, possibly caused by how don Juan taught her.
And also realize (I hope), what an odd path we're on. A mixture of super advanced, and beginner. All jumbled up.
Beginners might not see that, and it would take too long to explain.
But in fact, darkroom is nothing but gazing from the start.
And we gaze at "nothing"!
The inevitable result of having the Allies of Carlos, as our "teachers".
They kind of "power planted" us. Minus the drugs.
***
"Once you can stop the world, you are a gazer. And since the only way of stopping the world is by trying, the Nagual made all of us gaze at dry leaves for years and years. I think it's the best way to reach our second attention.
"He combined gazing at dry leaves and looking for our hands in dreaming. It took me about a year to find my hands, and four years to stop the world. The Nagual said that once you have trapped your second attention with dry leaves, you do gazing and dreaming to enlarge it. And that's all there is to gazing."
"You make it sound so simple, Gorda."
"Everything the Toltecs do is very simple. The Nagual said that all we needed to do in order to trap our second attention was to try and try. All of us stopped the world by gazing at dry leaves.
"You and Eligio were different. You yourself did it with power plants, but I don't know what path the Nagual followed with Eligio. He never wanted to tell me. He told me about you because we have the same task."
I mentioned that I had written in my notes that I had had the first complete awareness of having stopped the world only a few days before. She laughed.
"You stopped the world before any of us," she said. "What do you think you did when you took all those power plants? You've never done it by gazing like we did, that's all."
"Was the pile of dry leaves the only thing the Nagual made you gaze at?"
"Once dreamers know how to stop the world, they can gaze at other things; and finally when the dreamers lose their form altogether, they can gaze at anything. I do that. I can go into anything. He made us follow a certain order in gazing, though.
***
Notice how just because we can gaze at anything, there's no relationship to losing the human form.
UNLESS, the orange zone actually is losing the human form.
Food for thought as long as it doesn't cause book deal thinking.
I always read about book agreements, and I don't know what you mean specifically, it sounds to me like I want to write a book, and in my case I only see fame as a problem to be able to practice magic.
so this way is correct to practice? The less I think while looking this way, the more the light moves.
As soon as the dark room practices it, I've practiced it twice without success, but I'm still learning tensegrity moves so I can practice it correctly and create puffs.
I don't think I have stopped the world, but last night when I was sleeping in a state of vigil, I suddenly went blank and often got scared as if I had disconnected from everything, this happens to me sometimes when I keep quiet for a long time, it happened to me once In the darkroom, I only remember those two occasions, on the first with my eyes closed, on the second I had them open.
thanks again I need to practice more
"The book deal mind"?
If that's what you mean, it's when people read Castaneda's books, and mostly see how famous he was, how much money and attention he got, and how he gathered a bunch of young women to be his servants.
And so instead of magic, that's their motivation.
No one with that motivation can learn magic for real.
Learning real magic, REQUIRES removing such motivations from your mind completely.
Those are attachments to the blue line of reality.
And will prevent going very far from that point.
But it's nothing to do with that greed being "evil" or morally wrong.
Even if it clearly is wrong to steal from other people using pretend magic.
The problem is those emanations!
Which is all of reality.
Any tiny influence lights up the emanations associated with that, and those alter what's possible to perceive.
Manifesting objects is a very good way to understand that.
You sit up on pillows in perfect darkness, having moved your assemblage point until the air is filled with visible magic.
Then you say, "Hamburger!"
And forget you said that.
As fast as possible, by returning to perfect silence so that there's no words lingering from it. Just the "effect" it had on the emanations.
On a good night, 10 seconds later a real hamburger materializes in the air in response to your "command".
You can reach out and pluck it, to try to take a bite.
Or instead consider that a "real" hamburger can't float in the air.
So it falls onto the bed with a "plop" like a cheesy Wile E. Coyote Cartoon.
I once materialize 5 such objects in a row.
You wear out quickly because it moves your assemblage point sideways very fast. Towards slumber.
That's "rule #2" of darkroom. If you treat anything that can't possibly be there as "real", the assemblage point moves sideways to make it more so. Because by "making it real", you lit up more emanations. The ones belong to a reality where that hamburger is totally real.
I tossed each one towards where I knew the trash can to be in my darkroom.
And could hear them when they hit solid matter in the darkness.
It's the trick don Juan and Genaro used to put on a magic show for Carlos.
I'm just lucky I never reached behind my bed and pulled out a little pile of shit the way Genaro did.
hahahaha I have to practice this technique of objects, I hope to succeed when I throw them away with total darkness
I have no motivation in terms of money, fame or such things, I stopped going out with friends like about 2 years ago (since I started reading Carlos, and about how it was necessary to erase personal history, also say that I found this group ago two years, but I didn't even give it a chance because I don't understand how to use reddit) and I'm becoming celibate
sometimes thoughts of the foreign installation style come to me, for example a thought of materializing valuable objects came to me, but as soon as said thought came to me I rejected it, and each time they come back weaker
I want freedom, although I really don't know what it is, and I want to travel between worlds, those are my two real motivations, apart from that I like to know and my curiosity in this has no end.
Hello again Dan (sorry for being so annoying)
I wanted to ask you something, the lines of the sun that I described to you in the image, now they change thousands of shapes, they usually become thousands of little balls/orbs and rainbow color, the more I keep my silence and my gaze, the more they change.
My vision changes, I continue to see the same, but a small portal circle appears before me, generated by the sun's rays, but since it does not have internal silence, as soon as I see it, the sun seems to have a gravity field and absorbs everything, leaving my perception as at first, just seeing the normal sun of each day
on the other hand light rays change into various forms, and occasionally cross or seem to cross shadows
but i still can't focus on them
What I wanted to ask you is now I see more lines, semi-opaque or invisible than the ones I told you about, it seems that since I don't pay attention to them now if you let me analyze them, but I still don't know what they really are, do you have any idea what they could be?
edit: And can I also collect light with my right eye, once the left one feels tired and full?
I'm not sure the left one should ever feel tired or full.
That's a LONG TIME.
Sunlight glitter wasn't specified as a path to the second attention.
It's more like vitamins.
However, I did amuse myself a few times considering if you couldn't turn everything into a "path", with the right point of view.
I have a ritual for making breakfast, where I've almost counted all the steps it takes, and try to repeat them.
Rituals are the not-doing of routines, so they're good if done in silence.
If you can, you might want to also try how Techno was soaking up sunlight glitter.
Off water. Maybe a pond or river, I can't recall.
There is "gazing" at water.
It's use to travel.
And you might want to try gazing at piles of leaves, the way don Juan had what seems to be all of the apprentices besides Carlos, doing.
Thanks, I also tried mirroring a CD and it works better for me, but I'm going to try these different methods I suppose that feeling the left eye tired may be due to performing the technique too much
I don't know what happens if you charge up so much, but don't forget that's just a preparation for bringing out the second attention in a form that's hypnotic instead of vague.
I REALLY need to make a sunlight glitter animation.
If people saw the results in the perception of the second attention, they might automatically focus on the results, instead of the technique itself.
That's not to say, a technique using it couldn't be designed.
We just weren't given one in the books.
Because don Juan and group did most of the work for apprentices.
Our needs are different.
I hope to see that animation
I know it's a preparation but I like to see the light, once I shut up and keep the internal silence those balls of light start to run, and it looks like a river of golden bubbles
It is something that makes me have more silence
and I see how the sunlight is ``skimmed`` if I think a lot everything is absorbed by the sun (returns to perpection blue line)
and if after this I maintain internal silence, I see again how the rays of light dissolve into thousands of balls, and it becomes a river of rainbow bubbles (second attention or me pretending)
but perhaps it is better to observe the shadow of the dry leaves
Do what works to produce magic!
That's "navigation".
You keep making it stronger through repeating it, until you notice something better to do.
Let's use an analogy.
You have a little kayak, but you're stuck on dry land.
If you're lucky, there are 2 different streams nearby large enough for your kayak to float in.
But even if there's only one you put the kayak in there, and follow it down stream as far as you can.
If it dead ends, you have to take it out and look for another stream.
But if it branches, take the larger branch.
You'll eventually make it to the ocean.
That's sorcery.
Everyone else is hanging out in the cabin with your drinking buddies, talking about how wonderful it is to be a kayak person.
Never going anywhere.
They just polish, shine, and decorate their little kayaks.
I can only say thank you very much for everything Dan, I hope I can repay you by practicing and not pretending