i feel like shifting realities is cooler than the dream world, Also i have a feeling Dan have done it before.
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u/danl999
9 points2021-06-22 21:42
Last night. Lily was teaching me to use "seeing energy" to travel. She took a fancy to shimmering mind poster and wanted to help.
I hadn't fully realized you could do that.
Now I realize, Carlos did it all the time.
I must have done 10 times more than I was able to remember and type into a couple of places in here. The post about phantom rooms has an account.
You're obviously a bit confused about what's what. Maybe polluted from visiting another sub reddit? Or you haven't really studied the books of Carlos?
If you're new to it, I apologize for what's coming. Maybe I lured you in here from the yoga history subreddit, or the Abramelin one.
But, assuming you have some knowledge of the books, what's your interest in thinking and talking about it?
You do understand that this sort of behavior destroyed the entire sorcery community?
And gave Carlos the reputation of being a fraud, because it's obvious no one learned any real magic. Just pretending magic, like all other systems and subreddits.
And, your question is not even compatible with the books. Don Juan never let Carlos pull off the "let's analyze and discuss everything" behavior.
Here's the correct response when someone finds this subreddit, assuming they have a long time familiarity with the writings of Carlos.
"Holy Shit!!! It works? You mean I wasn't wrong all these years? But what about ... You mean that works too????? Where should I start first?"
And the person starts reading a lot, coming back with pertinent questions about the actual learning materials.
A bad response is, "Fellow warriors, let's talk about sorcery together. If a cool 'Man of Knowledge' meets a dirty 'old seer' on the road, what do they talk about?"
Does it sound arbitrary and grumpy to criticize your question?
Nope.
Impolite maybe. I was traveling around the universe last night for at least an hour, with an audience of weird spirits. So I have no common sense today.
However, my point about not just chatting in here, gets to the very heart of what stops us from becoming sorcerers in the first place.
Self-reflection.
You want to self-reflect with everyone and don't even realize it's a bad thing to do.
It's what's done everywhere else.
For example the Astral Travel subreddit.
I'm pretty sure, anyone who was over in the astral travel subreddit for too long, can never learn sorcery.
Well, maybe they could. But they won't.
So it comes down to the same thing.
They'll be pretending the rest of their lives.
But chatting to their hearts content in a different subreddit.
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u/Famous_Department
2 points2021-06-23 15:33
i haven't read the books, but i got into your posts and knowledge for a few months but i then i decided that i want to live in another physical world another dimension, i know that there is only one world and it's the world of men that's basically a summery of existence, but i'm sure you know there are infinite actual worlds with infinite forms and worlds within worlds as neville goddard puts it, and we can consciously travel there mentally and even stay.
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u/danl999
5 points2021-06-23 15:41
Yea, but the question is, does our organic being go there too?
In the Castaneda world, we can "body snatch" up to 800 copies of ourselves. Could be 600, it's been a while since it was explained to me by Carlos.
They're out there like beads on a strand. Each person belongs to his own string, which doesn't cross into someone else's string.
It's why Buddhists got confused about re-incarnation, which doesn't actually exist.
You can jump to the next bead, and take over their life.
Keep in mind, we aren't talking about pretending when it comes to Castaneda's materials. We really do what he wrote.
Although the experience in a cyclic being is as real as you'd like, you have no way to know what happened to your organic matter back home.
Last time I switched to one, I was watching my bedroom wall in perfect darkness, a "white board" showed up, and a spirit was above the whiteboard, making faces at me.
Eventually a window materialized, I could see through it, realized there was a slight breeze, so there was no glass, and noticed it was only 10 feet to the ground.
So I leaped through my solid bedroom wall, into a cyclic being.
But, what on earth happened to my physical body?
Did it smash into the wall, and crumple to the floor?
I have no idea.
There's conflicting information on this topic in our "literature", which I won't go into here.
So if you want to learn, you have to give up caring about such things.
They're usually just a noisy mind worrying about what Mom will say, if you can't prove it's, "real".
We call it the "book deal mind", and it's where you say you want to explore consciousness in your own little row boat, but you're tied to the dock because you have plans to make a book, or impress your friends, or something similar that's focused on other people.
And so, you're little boat can't leave the shore. It's tied down by obligations to other people.
For example, I've learned to turn my dark bedroom into a dreaming copy. I can still see the walls and furniture, dimly, but they can't possibly be the real room because it's absolutely pitch black dark in there. I sealed all light out.
If you gaze at the "phantom bedroom" you can watch for a color, associated with a cave dwelling spirit.
Fire demons it was, last night.
I found the hue, gazed again at the details on the walls, and now I was looking at the inside of a cave made of hard rock. Except the lighting was now normal. I was looking at actual rock, fully illuminated.
In every nook and cranny of that cave, there was a bizarre demon head watching me.
All different.
Some old men, some strange aliens, some cooks, some barmaids.
They're crammed together in there, being of a "hive" type organization.
And their appearance is merely a projection. We can't fathom their actual look, so they come up with something we can handle.
My spirit "Lily", who introduced me to her friends in that cave, showed me how to make the cave/bedroom travel in space, so we could explore.
This, fully awake, eyes open, no drugs.
If I were to worry, "This can't be possible! It's crazy!"
I'd be denied the experience.
All that is the brainwashing given to us by our parents, so that we'll ignore the monster in the closet and go back to bed.
Trapping us in a life of self-pity and pain.
So we can complete the reproduction cycle one more time, and die.
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u/noneofyabusiness6
1 points2021-07-27 09:08
How does on "complete" the reproduction cycle? What is that? Like a game?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-07-28 02:36
By having offspring.
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u/noneofyabusiness6
1 points2021-07-28 09:24
And what does that mean
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-07-28 14:16
Means you're a troll who deleted their account before they could be dealt with.
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u/danl999
6 points2021-06-23 15:43
So, I didn't understand. You're from the shifting realities subreddit? That means I was wrong, and should apologize.
You're just new to this.
But now that you're here, I can never get a straight answer from the shifting realities folks. I've been hoping it's a natural form of sorcery that evolved because of the internet, but I can't find out how "real" it is.
Do you see what you see, eyes open, fully awake, and it's as real as anything else?
Do you start off walking around, standing up? Or you lie down and close your eyes?
Or it is a sort of daydream thing, and easy to tell the difference from reality?
Or, is the shifting reality subreddit too polluted with various personalities, to actually tell what people are doing, and what they're making up?
Usually in a "weird stuff" subreddit, there's 5% sincere, 30% mentally ill, and the rest are socializing. Some of those willing to make up stuff to socialize more.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2021-06-23 21:21
Once you can travel into those other worlds, coming back into this one isn't so bad...if you know you can leave again whenever you want to.
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u/noneofyabusiness6
1 points2021-07-27 09:04
but i'm sure you know there are --finite actual worlds
What is your proof? And have you counted them? If so, how did you do this math? If so, how would u number them give me an example.
Even Stephen Hawking said there is most likely only 8k parallel planets in parallel Universes because of y and x, why are u questioning it and what is your proof for your side?
with --finite forms and worlds within worlds
What is your proof? And have you counted them? If so, how did you do this math? If so, how would u number them give me an example.
Even Stephen Hawking said there is most likely only 8k parallel planets in parallel Universes because of y and x, why are u questioning it and what is your proof for your side?
as neville goddard puts it
Neville never said that.
and we can consciously travel there mentally and even stay
Wtf are you talking about?
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u/dopameany
1 points2021-06-22 21:49
"There is a world of happiness where there is no difference between things because there is no one there to ask about the difference. But that is not the world of men. Some men have the vanity to believe they live in two worlds but that's only their vanity. There is but one single world for us. We are men, and must follow the world of men contentedly."-Don Juan
It's vanity.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-06-23 10:14
It's vanity.
Those quotes are from the Wheel of Time, review section. The original complete page from The Teachings of Don Juan, with full context:
""Am I doing the right thing? Am I on the right path? What should I do with my life?"
Don Juan said the questions I had asked were only words; it was better not to voice the questions, but to ask them from within. He told me the protector meant to give me a lesson; and to prove that he meant to give me a lesson and not to scare me away, he showed himself as a light twice.
I said I still could not understand why Mescalito terrorized me if he had accepted me. I reminded don Juan that, according to his statements, to be accepted by Mescalito implied that his form was constant and did not shift from bliss to nightmare. Don Juan laughed at me again and said that if I would think about the question I had had in my heart when I talked to Mescalito, then I myself would understand the lesson.
To think about the question I had had in my "heart" was a difficult problem. I told don Juan I had had many things in mind. When I asked if I was on the right path, I meant: Do I have one foot in each of two worlds? Which world is the right one? What course should my life take?
Don Juan listened to my explanations and concluded that I did not have a clear view of the world, and that the protector had given me a beautifully clear lesson.
He said, "You think there are two worlds for you - two paths. But there is only one. The protector showed you this with unbelievable clarity. The only world available to you is the world of men, and that world you cannot choose to leave. You are a man! The protector showed you the world of happiness where there is no difference between things because there is no one there to ask about the difference. But that is not the world of men. The protector shook you out of it and showed you how a man THINKS AND FIGHTS(my emphasis). That is the world of man! And to be a man is to be condemned to that world. You have the vanity to believe you live in two worlds, but that is only your vanity. There is but one single world for us. We are men, and must follow the world of men contentedly. I believe that was the lesson.""
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u/higgsbison312
2 points2021-06-30 08:13
During one of my strongest trips on psilocybin I tried taking notes. Yeah I know DJ would laugh at it, but I really wanted to document my thoughts because during my previous trip I saw something like ehh Big Bang or evolution. It looked like expansion of fractals or explosion of life. But when my assemblage point got back to normal I forgot 90% of it.
Anyways, this trip was way stronger. The reality felt like pure stream of information, it looked like visuals but it felt like I was perceiving reality with all of my senses. Suddenly I felt like something was communicating with me. I could barely write but I managed to chicken scratch “they want you to learn how to shift realities”. There was this realization that I actually didn’t need mushrooms to get there.
Based on that experience I believe one needs a mentor. Either a human being or an “entity”.
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u/danl999
4 points2021-06-30 21:26
Did you read around in here?
It'll teach you to move your assemblage point on your own, without the psilocybin.
And at least twice as far as that stuff can move it.
Needing a mentor is going to keep you from learning. Or turn you into a victim for a con man.
The instructions are in here, and very easy to understand.
And always work, if you actually do them.
Reality simply goes away, if you follow the instructions. It can't happen any other way.
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u/higgsbison312
2 points2021-07-01 03:18
I just joined this sub when I typed my original comment above. But I went through some of your posts and they definitely caught my attention.
Yes plz teach me. I saw your older posts, so I think the info is there. But let me know if you have more materials?
For some background. When I was a teenager my brother used to tell me about his lucid dreams, so I got into lucid dreaming very young (I wasn’t as good as my brother). One day he woke me up in the middle of the night, all agitated. Said that he had a weird lucid dream that felt different that his previous dreams. In there he was around Aztec looking pyramids. A shaman was telling him that he needed to remember who he really was. A few years later I saw my friend reading CC. I borrowed the book and really got into the ideas since I’ve already experienced lucid dreaming and it reminded me of what my brother told me.
Then life happened, I moved to the US, California. Got busy with work and etc (immigrant mentality), kinda forgetting about CC books. Until a few years ago when I tried psilocybin. That experience changed me, so here I am trying to get back on the same path I started as a 16 yr old teenager.
PS. Russian is my first language, so pardon my grammar.
Edit: the wiki info is helpful. Especially the section on Bad Players. I will be lurking and soaking up all the info for a while until I have any questions. Looks like it’s all there.
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u/danl999
5 points2021-07-01 16:38
But let me know if you have more materials?
Everything you need is in here. Scroll down if you want more than the wiki holds.
But the main thing is, how much work can you put in each day?
Some tips to speed you up but you still have to find hours a day to practice if you want progress. Tips:
Over time I've learned, it's important to play around, but not too much or you don't make it to the Orange Zone on the J curve.
It's important to compress the energy body using Tensegrity. You can still move the assemblage point if you skip compressing the energy body, but the results get weaker and weaker.
Any contact with an inorganic being makes things much faster.
But, Lily tells me you can make your own IOB using a hand puppet.
For people who haven't found one.
You have to "imbue" it with some light. How to do that, I don't know. My hand glows and sparkles already, so I can't experiment.
Also don't expect to do anything more than once. It's nice if you can, but not the goal.
Intent gifts you, but the gifts tend to be unique.
It's not going to get down in the pits with you and wrestle. It just tosses a big piece of red meat in the ring once in a while.
"Seeing energy" should be the main goal. Play with it.
You can't "see energy" until you get into the orange zone. You can catch glimpses, but they'll peter out and you'll waste time needlessly.
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u/higgsbison312
2 points2021-07-01 18:45
Thanks Dan. Time and human responsibilities are my main “constraint” right now, but I am willing to change that and get back on the path.
I am glad that I finally found you guys. I was losing hope, especially after my interaction with Castaneda FB group. Someone said it was all fiction and the entire group blew up, getting super offended and defensive. That’s when I knew no one knows shit there. They are all petty tyrants that ego massage each other. Or maybe it was a grand act of controlled folly? Who knows, but I am here to stay for the practical instructions which is plenty on this sub.
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u/danl999
6 points2021-07-01 18:57
If you don't have much time, here's the order of speed. What produces the fastest knowledge. Top of list is fastest.
The first 2 only require 1 hour.
1 ) Gazing (ferns, fences, the bathroom heater grate, the stucco ceiling, etc.)
2 ) Chair Silence
3 ) Darkroom gazing
The first one never seems to keep people going. They see the second attention, weirdness happens, they even have little dream visions.
But they don't keep it up. If they did, they'd follow the path of Juan's outdoor sunlight gazing post.
Chair Silence is wonderful, and very fast. See "Simple Silence" technique post.
But it's "not very convincing". Nothing you do is not something a meditation person doesn't do once in a while. We try to do them for the whole hour, but just the fact that someone who practices meditation does any once a year, makes it "unconvincing".
Darkroom gazing is very convincing.
If you honestly tell a Dzogchen practitioner what you have learned to do, and he doesn't become so angry he wants to murder you, it's not good enough to convince our mind to keep going.
But both of those first 2 are "complete paths", and only take 1 hour a day.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2021-07-01 19:41
They are all petty tyrants that ego massage each other. Or maybe it was a grand act of controlled folly?
It isn't an act.
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u/S0iz1t4_
1 points2021-10-02 02:57
I've already shifted but unconsciously, so I don't remember, I just have flashbacks and feelings of things that happened (if you have the feeling you shifted but don't remember doing it, the same thing probably happened to you), plus, I won't force you to believe or anything but dimensions are different from realities as they are VERY similar.
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Last night. Lily was teaching me to use "seeing energy" to travel. She took a fancy to shimmering mind poster and wanted to help.
I hadn't fully realized you could do that.
Now I realize, Carlos did it all the time.
I must have done 10 times more than I was able to remember and type into a couple of places in here. The post about phantom rooms has an account.
You're obviously a bit confused about what's what. Maybe polluted from visiting another sub reddit? Or you haven't really studied the books of Carlos?
If you're new to it, I apologize for what's coming. Maybe I lured you in here from the yoga history subreddit, or the Abramelin one.
But, assuming you have some knowledge of the books, what's your interest in thinking and talking about it?
You do understand that this sort of behavior destroyed the entire sorcery community?
And gave Carlos the reputation of being a fraud, because it's obvious no one learned any real magic. Just pretending magic, like all other systems and subreddits.
And, your question is not even compatible with the books. Don Juan never let Carlos pull off the "let's analyze and discuss everything" behavior.
Here's the correct response when someone finds this subreddit, assuming they have a long time familiarity with the writings of Carlos.
"Holy Shit!!! It works? You mean I wasn't wrong all these years? But what about ... You mean that works too????? Where should I start first?"
And the person starts reading a lot, coming back with pertinent questions about the actual learning materials.
A bad response is, "Fellow warriors, let's talk about sorcery together. If a cool 'Man of Knowledge' meets a dirty 'old seer' on the road, what do they talk about?"
Does it sound arbitrary and grumpy to criticize your question?
Nope.
Impolite maybe. I was traveling around the universe last night for at least an hour, with an audience of weird spirits. So I have no common sense today.
However, my point about not just chatting in here, gets to the very heart of what stops us from becoming sorcerers in the first place.
Self-reflection.
You want to self-reflect with everyone and don't even realize it's a bad thing to do.
It's what's done everywhere else.
For example the Astral Travel subreddit.
I'm pretty sure, anyone who was over in the astral travel subreddit for too long, can never learn sorcery.
Well, maybe they could. But they won't.
So it comes down to the same thing.
They'll be pretending the rest of their lives.
But chatting to their hearts content in a different subreddit.
i haven't read the books, but i got into your posts and knowledge for a few months but i then i decided that i want to live in another physical world another dimension, i know that there is only one world and it's the world of men that's basically a summery of existence, but i'm sure you know there are infinite actual worlds with infinite forms and worlds within worlds as neville goddard puts it, and we can consciously travel there mentally and even stay.
Yea, but the question is, does our organic being go there too?
In the Castaneda world, we can "body snatch" up to 800 copies of ourselves. Could be 600, it's been a while since it was explained to me by Carlos.
They're out there like beads on a strand. Each person belongs to his own string, which doesn't cross into someone else's string.
It's why Buddhists got confused about re-incarnation, which doesn't actually exist.
You can jump to the next bead, and take over their life.
Keep in mind, we aren't talking about pretending when it comes to Castaneda's materials. We really do what he wrote.
Although the experience in a cyclic being is as real as you'd like, you have no way to know what happened to your organic matter back home.
Last time I switched to one, I was watching my bedroom wall in perfect darkness, a "white board" showed up, and a spirit was above the whiteboard, making faces at me.
Eventually a window materialized, I could see through it, realized there was a slight breeze, so there was no glass, and noticed it was only 10 feet to the ground.
So I leaped through my solid bedroom wall, into a cyclic being.
But, what on earth happened to my physical body?
Did it smash into the wall, and crumple to the floor?
I have no idea.
There's conflicting information on this topic in our "literature", which I won't go into here.
So if you want to learn, you have to give up caring about such things.
They're usually just a noisy mind worrying about what Mom will say, if you can't prove it's, "real".
We call it the "book deal mind", and it's where you say you want to explore consciousness in your own little row boat, but you're tied to the dock because you have plans to make a book, or impress your friends, or something similar that's focused on other people.
And so, you're little boat can't leave the shore. It's tied down by obligations to other people.
For example, I've learned to turn my dark bedroom into a dreaming copy. I can still see the walls and furniture, dimly, but they can't possibly be the real room because it's absolutely pitch black dark in there. I sealed all light out.
If you gaze at the "phantom bedroom" you can watch for a color, associated with a cave dwelling spirit.
Fire demons it was, last night.
I found the hue, gazed again at the details on the walls, and now I was looking at the inside of a cave made of hard rock. Except the lighting was now normal. I was looking at actual rock, fully illuminated.
In every nook and cranny of that cave, there was a bizarre demon head watching me.
All different.
Some old men, some strange aliens, some cooks, some barmaids.
They're crammed together in there, being of a "hive" type organization.
And their appearance is merely a projection. We can't fathom their actual look, so they come up with something we can handle.
My spirit "Lily", who introduced me to her friends in that cave, showed me how to make the cave/bedroom travel in space, so we could explore.
This, fully awake, eyes open, no drugs.
If I were to worry, "This can't be possible! It's crazy!"
I'd be denied the experience.
All that is the brainwashing given to us by our parents, so that we'll ignore the monster in the closet and go back to bed.
Trapping us in a life of self-pity and pain.
So we can complete the reproduction cycle one more time, and die.
How does on "complete" the reproduction cycle? What is that? Like a game?
By having offspring.
And what does that mean
Means you're a troll who deleted their account before they could be dealt with.
So, I didn't understand. You're from the shifting realities subreddit? That means I was wrong, and should apologize.
You're just new to this.
But now that you're here, I can never get a straight answer from the shifting realities folks. I've been hoping it's a natural form of sorcery that evolved because of the internet, but I can't find out how "real" it is.
Do you see what you see, eyes open, fully awake, and it's as real as anything else?
Do you start off walking around, standing up? Or you lie down and close your eyes?
Or it is a sort of daydream thing, and easy to tell the difference from reality?
Or, is the shifting reality subreddit too polluted with various personalities, to actually tell what people are doing, and what they're making up?
Usually in a "weird stuff" subreddit, there's 5% sincere, 30% mentally ill, and the rest are socializing. Some of those willing to make up stuff to socialize more.
Once you can travel into those other worlds, coming back into this one isn't so bad...if you know you can leave again whenever you want to.
What is your proof? And have you counted them? If so, how did you do this math? If so, how would u number them give me an example.
Even Stephen Hawking said there is most likely only 8k parallel planets in parallel Universes because of y and x, why are u questioning it and what is your proof for your side?
What is your proof? And have you counted them? If so, how did you do this math? If so, how would u number them give me an example.
Even Stephen Hawking said there is most likely only 8k parallel planets in parallel Universes because of y and x, why are u questioning it and what is your proof for your side?
Neville never said that.
Wtf are you talking about?
"There is a world of happiness where there is no difference between things because there is no one there to ask about the difference. But that is not the world of men. Some men have the vanity to believe they live in two worlds but that's only their vanity. There is but one single world for us. We are men, and must follow the world of men contentedly."-Don Juan
It's vanity.
Those quotes are from the Wheel of Time, review section. The original complete page from The Teachings of Don Juan, with full context:
""Am I doing the right thing? Am I on the right path? What should I do with my life?"
Don Juan said the questions I had asked were only words; it was better not to voice the questions, but to ask them from within. He told me the protector meant to give me a lesson; and to prove that he meant to give me a lesson and not to scare me away, he showed himself as a light twice.
I said I still could not understand why Mescalito terrorized me if he had accepted me. I reminded don Juan that, according to his statements, to be accepted by Mescalito implied that his form was constant and did not shift from bliss to nightmare. Don Juan laughed at me again and said that if I would think about the question I had had in my heart when I talked to Mescalito, then I myself would understand the lesson.
To think about the question I had had in my "heart" was a difficult problem. I told don Juan I had had many things in mind. When I asked if I was on the right path, I meant: Do I have one foot in each of two worlds? Which world is the right one? What course should my life take?
Don Juan listened to my explanations and concluded that I did not have a clear view of the world, and that the protector had given me a beautifully clear lesson.
He said, "You think there are two worlds for you - two paths. But there is only one. The protector showed you this with unbelievable clarity. The only world available to you is the world of men, and that world you cannot choose to leave. You are a man! The protector showed you the world of happiness where there is no difference between things because there is no one there to ask about the difference. But that is not the world of men. The protector shook you out of it and showed you how a man THINKS AND FIGHTS (my emphasis). That is the world of man! And to be a man is to be condemned to that world. You have the vanity to believe you live in two worlds, but that is only your vanity. There is but one single world for us. We are men, and must follow the world of men contentedly. I believe that was the lesson.""
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During one of my strongest trips on psilocybin I tried taking notes. Yeah I know DJ would laugh at it, but I really wanted to document my thoughts because during my previous trip I saw something like ehh Big Bang or evolution. It looked like expansion of fractals or explosion of life. But when my assemblage point got back to normal I forgot 90% of it.
Anyways, this trip was way stronger. The reality felt like pure stream of information, it looked like visuals but it felt like I was perceiving reality with all of my senses. Suddenly I felt like something was communicating with me. I could barely write but I managed to chicken scratch “they want you to learn how to shift realities”. There was this realization that I actually didn’t need mushrooms to get there.
Based on that experience I believe one needs a mentor. Either a human being or an “entity”.
Did you read around in here?
It'll teach you to move your assemblage point on your own, without the psilocybin.
And at least twice as far as that stuff can move it.
Needing a mentor is going to keep you from learning. Or turn you into a victim for a con man.
The instructions are in here, and very easy to understand.
And always work, if you actually do them.
Reality simply goes away, if you follow the instructions. It can't happen any other way.
I just joined this sub when I typed my original comment above. But I went through some of your posts and they definitely caught my attention.
Yes plz teach me. I saw your older posts, so I think the info is there. But let me know if you have more materials?
For some background. When I was a teenager my brother used to tell me about his lucid dreams, so I got into lucid dreaming very young (I wasn’t as good as my brother). One day he woke me up in the middle of the night, all agitated. Said that he had a weird lucid dream that felt different that his previous dreams. In there he was around Aztec looking pyramids. A shaman was telling him that he needed to remember who he really was. A few years later I saw my friend reading CC. I borrowed the book and really got into the ideas since I’ve already experienced lucid dreaming and it reminded me of what my brother told me.
Then life happened, I moved to the US, California. Got busy with work and etc (immigrant mentality), kinda forgetting about CC books. Until a few years ago when I tried psilocybin. That experience changed me, so here I am trying to get back on the same path I started as a 16 yr old teenager.
PS. Russian is my first language, so pardon my grammar.
Edit: the wiki info is helpful. Especially the section on Bad Players. I will be lurking and soaking up all the info for a while until I have any questions. Looks like it’s all there.
Everything you need is in here. Scroll down if you want more than the wiki holds.
But the main thing is, how much work can you put in each day?
Some tips to speed you up but you still have to find hours a day to practice if you want progress. Tips:
Over time I've learned, it's important to play around, but not too much or you don't make it to the Orange Zone on the J curve.
It's important to compress the energy body using Tensegrity. You can still move the assemblage point if you skip compressing the energy body, but the results get weaker and weaker.
Any contact with an inorganic being makes things much faster.
But, Lily tells me you can make your own IOB using a hand puppet.
For people who haven't found one.
You have to "imbue" it with some light. How to do that, I don't know. My hand glows and sparkles already, so I can't experiment.
Also don't expect to do anything more than once. It's nice if you can, but not the goal.
Intent gifts you, but the gifts tend to be unique.
It's not going to get down in the pits with you and wrestle. It just tosses a big piece of red meat in the ring once in a while.
"Seeing energy" should be the main goal. Play with it.
You can't "see energy" until you get into the orange zone. You can catch glimpses, but they'll peter out and you'll waste time needlessly.
Thanks Dan. Time and human responsibilities are my main “constraint” right now, but I am willing to change that and get back on the path.
I am glad that I finally found you guys. I was losing hope, especially after my interaction with Castaneda FB group. Someone said it was all fiction and the entire group blew up, getting super offended and defensive. That’s when I knew no one knows shit there. They are all petty tyrants that ego massage each other. Or maybe it was a grand act of controlled folly? Who knows, but I am here to stay for the practical instructions which is plenty on this sub.
If you don't have much time, here's the order of speed. What produces the fastest knowledge. Top of list is fastest.
The first 2 only require 1 hour.
1 ) Gazing (ferns, fences, the bathroom heater grate, the stucco ceiling, etc.)
2 ) Chair Silence
3 ) Darkroom gazing
The first one never seems to keep people going. They see the second attention, weirdness happens, they even have little dream visions.
But they don't keep it up. If they did, they'd follow the path of Juan's outdoor sunlight gazing post.
Chair Silence is wonderful, and very fast. See "Simple Silence" technique post.
But it's "not very convincing". Nothing you do is not something a meditation person doesn't do once in a while. We try to do them for the whole hour, but just the fact that someone who practices meditation does any once a year, makes it "unconvincing".
Darkroom gazing is very convincing.
If you honestly tell a Dzogchen practitioner what you have learned to do, and he doesn't become so angry he wants to murder you, it's not good enough to convince our mind to keep going.
But both of those first 2 are "complete paths", and only take 1 hour a day.
It isn't an act.
I've already shifted but unconsciously, so I don't remember, I just have flashbacks and feelings of things that happened (if you have the feeling you shifted but don't remember doing it, the same thing probably happened to you), plus, I won't force you to believe or anything but dimensions are different from realities as they are VERY similar.
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