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The fliers killed Jesus?
Flyers (counter intent)
Mathew 5:37
Jesus warns about flier's
But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No.’Whatever is more than these is of the evil one
He isn't talking about morality notice?, he is talking about self determination.
When Jesus went to practice inner silence ?
Notice, the flier tempts with everything the world has to offer, just as Jesus was practicing inner silence, not at any other point in time.
The above two are from the Canon. Now, let is go to the Gospel of Thomas, which in my understanding is the most authentic one, as in certain traditions, Thomas was Jesus's twin brother, so teachings were more personalise.
Jesus finding the flier's mind in the Gospel of Thomas
"Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
I "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
Usually enlightened guru's are NOT TROUBLED, they are soo called enlightened. In other words, enlightened to peoples praise and wealth.Nothing wrong with these two, but if that is the only goal, what then ?
A seeker who finds trouble? read, troubled in finding the flier's mind.
Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
Jesus talks about the evolution of consciousness, Lion and man are ellegories to the one that is consumed by the flier and the one that consumes or defeats the flier.
a Samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to Judea. He said to his disciples, "That man is round about the lamb." They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it." He said to them, "While it is alive, he will not eat it, but only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse." They said to him, "He cannot do so otherwise." He said to them,
"You too, look for a place for yourself within repose, lest you become a corpse and be eaten."
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Your post title is inaccurate, unless you're alluding that it was people acting from the position of the imposed mind who did the killing.
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And they didn't know what to call him in the first century either:
"Earliest (1st century A.D.) reference describes Christ as 'magician'"
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna2697249
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The sorcerers called out in the Bible, both old and new testament, or more akin to Don Juan's Men of Knowledge (sorcery guild) than to a Master of Intent...which is more in-line with Yeshua bar Joseph's modus operandi.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/accusations-against-jesus-answered/10-was-jesus-a-magician-involved-in-the-occult.cfm
We have no idea what Jesus was up to, but he claimed that Satan exists.
And he doesn't.
It's really easy to see that if you study other religions, see what they say about demons, and then learn to perceive inorganic beings.
Bottom line: If there's no lucifer, then the bible is made up and the early Christians were cult profiteers.
My guess is, the Jewish prophets decided to tinker with the very horrible middle east's social order. They mixed history with the supernatural, and possibly with their own seeing.
It's not difficult to visit God and heaven.
Possibly, they figured if you were "forgiven", your link to intent was cleaner, and you'd get more help in your life. By praying and trying improve your behavior according to the rules of that path.
But their techniques were secret.
Maybe Jesus was trying to release those techniques to the world?
There's probably no way to know now.
Anyway, if you really want to understand this topic do darkroom diligently until you can play with demons also, then go read about them again in other religions.
And try to visit heaven. I've been to heaven or visited God at least 4 times. Likely 5.
Also, if you want to be Christian, go ahead!
Sorcery is not a religion. As the Jewish prophets demonstrated, you can believe what you like, and still practice sorcery.
Religion tends to alter what IOBs look like, and how you interpret other worlds.
So there is a price to pay. Just try to keep them separate, as La Gorda did.
Of all the religions, I have to say the Judeo/Christian one seems pretty good overall, for the social order.
Except for the part about being trapped for the rest of your life, in your own self-pity.
That kind of sucks.
By the way, nothing Jesus said will help you out to learn sorcery. And unless you learn sorcery, you'll suffer 10 times more than needed in your life.
So if you "follow him", you certainly "take up your cross".
It's the cross of "Poor baby me".
Catholics have the monopoly on that. And guilt.
Catholics and Buddhists are remarkably alike.
Catholics even meditate, and likely have just as powerful of experiences, as the average Buddhist.
Both get their feelings hurt and become angry, if you ask the wrong questions.
The Gnostic sect was closer, in some regards (not as much in others), to what Jesus was exemplar of. But they were centuries removed by then, so they have to be considered a largely separate thing.
The fact that nothing was systematically written down or compiled (from bits and pieces really) until 150 years or so later, means that much of the new testament must be considered gross misinterpretation.
Including the Gnostic gospels.
Same as with Buddhism, where nothing was written down until 300-500 years after Buddha lived.
I wonder if there's an accurate place summarizing what the Buddha actually said, that wasn't added on later?
For instance, the "miracle" healings. Add-on?
And his statement as a child announcing he won't be reborn again.
So far, we seem to kick the buddhas butt in here, unless you count what seems to be add-on stories.
True. But the same can be said of the books of Carlos, if you take Ken Eagle Feather and Michael Kremin(?)(speedos guy) etc. as somehow representative.
It all sinks or swims on the character and fortitude of the people involved, over time, as much as the true to life preservation of the originator's words and intent.
On these vital criteria, the New Testament is not very successful 🙁.
We should be grateful for the uninterrupted and direct line of transmission, as much as for the practicality, of Nagualist canon.
In Valantinian Gnosticism the primal androgynous diety is called by two names Bythos the male aspect meaning “depth” and his female aspect Ennoia meaning (thought, intent). Another name for Ennoia is Sige which means Silence.
"..the Christian era leading up through the First, Second, and even Third Centuries saw a rather interesting situation in which Gnostics went to church alongside "mainstream" Christians. Some documentation even suggests that the Church had 3 degrees of Christian membership that coincided with the member's understanding of scripture; first as historical fact, then as mythic texts, and finally as a foundation for esoteric practice. "
https://www.quora.com/Who-killed-the-Gnostics-and-burned-their-books
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/story/heretics.html