Hello,
I've been around for a little while but haven't been as active, one of the primary reasons is I want to only post when I feel there is some real substance/questions that might help me and maybe others.
I've mentioned before that I have some sort of being, I don't label it because I don't want to assume anything. I have called it an IOB in the past, others said they thought it might be a flyer, and now I'm thinking I might just have a ghost as well as occasional archon/astral parasite type being, which I am not sure, but I think IOB's are the same as astral parasites? Any opinion on that would be appreciated.
So every single time I am getting closer to going to bed and really even if I just turn the lights off and lay down trying to get ready for sleep (even if I may be a good hour away from actually falling asleep). This thing will hop on the bed, crawl around, do various things to my body or energy body, like pulsing on my left big toe, which seems to be a common thing lately, or left calve, or kidneys. It also will basically join me and influence my dreams, occasionally try to possess me. Sometimes I'll wake up in the in-between and a few times it has rolled me out of my body and taken me somewhere, but I can't say definitively much about it being anything spectacular or even different from this waking world reality.
So, for about the past year I've been meditating before bed, eyes closed in dark room, I can do eyes open as well... but it's just a lot easier to really tune into the subtleties with my eyes closed. I know Dan might say he would recommend eyes open, and I'm thinking of finally moving that direction more in the near future, but the closed eyes have allowed me to really tune into what I can only best describe as the etheric dimension, and at first I discovered a few things that over this past year I've learned more about.
For instance, I've discovered that as I get visuals, a lot of times I might see a face manifest in front of me and then as I lose the visual, the entity will hop around me, like it's trying to re-adjust and re-connect with me in a way that I might be able to see again. Or, I might see a ball or object fall in my minds eye and at the same time feel an energetic vibration as if the object was real, but at the same time I can only really describe this sensation as an inner world sensation. Other times I might hear a noise like a click or other random noise that is in unison with the visuals.
I also want to mention that seeing isn't the most prominent thing, as I've discovered it definitely is perceived by paying attention to my feelings, and often as I pay closer and closer attention, it's like the feeling will open up a dimension that will then allow me to see whatever it is, but which mostly feels like a visual representation of energy, so it's not like the visual is even accurate as to what it might actually look like. Just a visual representation based off my own vocabulary.
Another thing I've noticed is that if I am doing such meditation where there are people in a nearby room, or just nearby, the energy of their communications/interactions always flows in unison with what is happening on this etheric plane, if there is energy mounting, when it is released they all suddenly yell out in excitement at whatever it is they are doing... if the energy is moving slowly and going through some sort of ordeal, their communication will get more silent and drawn out. It is always perfectly in unison however. Not only that, but (with very little skill at this point in my practice) it can most definitely be influenced by me.
I was just listening to "A Separate Reality" audiobook again, and towards the end Don Genaro is trying to get Carlos to see and Carlos mentions hearing and feeling a giant boulder fall down behind Don Juan's house, and says that even for an instance he could have sworn he actually saw one, but it was more like a fleeting perception. This sort of sparked a Eureka moment with me and made me want to get on here and ask... well I don't even know how to ask, but I guess... is perceiving this etheric reality exactly what is being mentioned when the Don's talk about seeing?
And most importantly, can anyone point me in the direction of some practices/exercises that you think might be most beneficial to getting more proficient with working with and influencing this layer/level of reality? My first thought/intuition on it is gazing, it's weird how the whole concept of gazing continues to develop inter deeper insights/understandings/meanings to me over the years. At first I didn't understand the point of it. But I'm thinking now that, it's learning how to perceive this layer of reality?
Anyway, thanks for reading, and for any input!
(I labeled this as silence, as that's the most accurate thing I can think, as it's silence that leads to all of this being perceived, but there might be a better flair)
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I changed the Flair to Shifting Perception.
Daytime open-eyes gazing is u/juann2323 's area, for now. Maybe go over some of his posts.
Your understanding is too polluted to get anywhere.
You've got a bunch of untrue systems in your mind, and you're shopping around to find the happiest coincidence, so you can decide you are making progress.
But on what, you don't know.
You have to dump it all, if you want to learn sorcery.
And since there's nothing else to learn that actually works, better make up your mind.
Go look around and see if you find a place like this, with real magic being practiced every single day, by many people who will share their tips on how to make it work.
I had to add that explanation of what you should see, because some people can't see the difference between the pretend magic subreddits, and this one. I can't understand why, but it probably means they're looking for friends who like to play, "Let's all have super powers", and so they see the other subreddits as possibly a little superior to this one. Over there they get praise for making stuff up. Here people insist you are actually doing magic, and not just pretending.
Seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not to all.
So you have talent, assuming there's no drugs in there, but you're too mixed up to go anywhere with it.
And if you stay in here, you're likely to get your feelings hurt when people try to help you.
Work through that, and you'll learn to move your assemblage point all the way long the J curve, and realize why that stuff in your head was mostly wrong.
You have to be able to do it on demand, to see the truth of it.
Let me correct some of it. I didn't look closely at it all, but these are the most common mistakes:
There are no angels or demons. Those are inorganic beings.
All religions are made up, with just a hint of truth in them. But not enough truth to be of any use.
There are no ghosts. No one survives after death. However, it's possible to pick up the intent of someone long gone. That's not the same as a ghost. It's more like an echo.
Some of those left over "intent ghosts" are actually real people but those are still alive in some odd form. And mostly just old seers who wanted to beat death. But those are very very rare.
Whatever you run into in bed, and especially if it plays with you or taunts you, is virtually certain to be an inorganic being.
It's also possible to have a witch messing with you, but I haven't seen Cholita do much of that.
It would be their double, and the double isn't that petty.
If the witch is super angry, her double is somewhat friendly.
It's the ethereal plane / reality term that's very occulty, and loaded with viral baggage. Haven't had that one pop up in here yet, as I recall.
Just use second attention and bypass the clutter!
If you believe in "ethereal planes", you'll get one!
The IOBs love to take advantage of stuff like that, to trap people.
Carlos and Carol Tiggs almost got kidnapped.
They were traveling together in dreaming. Their inorganic beings helped them travel to a shack in the middle of nowhere.
Carlos kind of liked places in the middle of nowhere, and even ditched his life in LA for one, when he was younger.
The phony shack came with everything you need. A virtual world for the shack to stand in, a bed in the middle, some clothes for both of them, which were undoubtedly the perfect size.
But you should NEVER pick up anything the inorganic beings offer you, in a realm they created.
If they had put on the clothes, their memory of where they came from would begin to fade and they'd soon be trapped in that shack for millions of years.
Fortunately, people wo believe in "Ethereal planes", or even "Astral Planes" never get very far.
It's easy to see; just go to their subreddits.
Meaning an Etheric Reality / Ethereal Plane is a phantom dream reality, or a closer analogue to "intending (a world) while in the second attention?"
Like the world the Death Defier (The Tenant) created for himself/herself to retreat into.
Meaning as soon as one or two individuals start interacting in that dream, in addition to the one that created it, it becomes exponentially more real.
But it still isn't energy generating?
That's what I suppose those things are.
But Yogis do amazing things. Or they used to.
They might have located some energy containing realms they could share with their students.
But frankly, it's not a "path".
It's just a "tale of power".
Hanging out somewhere that only has tall tales won't lead to learning.
So my suspicion is that anyone using that term, is a mental masturbator.
Meaning, they only want other people to think they have super powers, so they can have more self-esteem.
And pretty fairytales they can think about, is like porn to them.
I'll add the analogy of someone who likes reading hard science fiction stories (as "space porn"), vs. the engineer who works at NASA and has been to the space station.
Thankfully for us becoming a sorcerer is not reserved for the elite of the elite, or gated by some organization, like going to the space station is.
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