I wonder what sort of teeth the lineage leaders had?
Teeth aren't designed to make it past 50 without a lot of "help".
So Julian pretty much had none, unless his gate of power could activate teeth emanations too.
If you think this is a impromptu video, please consider how clean their clothes are.
Which means, this guy was promoting himself to get more cash.
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u/Gnos_Yidari
2 points2021-08-11 13:25
And can you really blame him? Doesn't exactly look like they're living on easy street.
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u/danl999
3 points2021-08-11 15:06
I suppose I should have just said what I know.
And what don Juan warned us about.
There are scores of men in Mexico who follow "the old ways", but have no idea what they're doing, so it's just pointless rituals.
People get excited at the sound of someone being an "elder" in a specific tribe.
Like they must have something cool to learn.
But I've never seen a single one who understood sorcery.
Instead, I've seen a lot of "entitled" ones.
If one came into this subreddit they'd curse it. Because it would make their tribe look impotent.
Someone with real magic would love this place. They might correct some misunderstandings if they were more advanced than we are, but they'd never in a million years get angry at seeing it.
That would be like an old geezer at the old folks home, the horseshoe champion of the west, getting angry because some kids were pretending they could play the game too.
He'd be overjoyed!
Getting angry means, they're a fake.
With slightly better credentials than the usual fakes who are not native American.
One thing I witnessed as a child was seeing that the local tribes of southern California had rituals remarkably like those from the books of Carlos.
I was an "anthropologist brat". The kids that mess up the dig, and steal arrowheads.
And so I got to see "elders" up the wazoo.
Like, a shaman digging a meter down to get the Datura root.
Just like in the books! Wow, verification.
Nope.
The guy was a bad player who had read the books and was up to the usual bad player activities.
Pretending.
Carlos didn't engage in cultural appropriation. That culture (the Olmecs) has been gone thousands of years. All he did was honor it.
But the local tribes did, when they copied what Carlos wrote in his books figuring they had an advantage, being Indian.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
6 points2021-08-10 23:04
Mexico is it's own "Separate World." In-between the primeval jungle and westernized America.
The film Apocalypto, which depicts Central American Mayans, is pretty much the closest you're going to get to what it would have actually looked like before the arrival of the conquistadors in 1519 (start of the Spanish-Aztec war).
The Aztecs were different culturally of course, but Apocalypto is probably in the ballpark.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2024-02-09 22:16
Peyote song…. somehow reminds me of a certain book by a certain author… 🤔😜, was the OP's title for this [user-deleted] post, and the content was as follows (restore from backup):
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I wonder what sort of teeth the lineage leaders had?
Teeth aren't designed to make it past 50 without a lot of "help".
So Julian pretty much had none, unless his gate of power could activate teeth emanations too.
If you think this is a impromptu video, please consider how clean their clothes are.
Which means, this guy was promoting himself to get more cash.
And can you really blame him? Doesn't exactly look like they're living on easy street.
I suppose I should have just said what I know.
And what don Juan warned us about.
There are scores of men in Mexico who follow "the old ways", but have no idea what they're doing, so it's just pointless rituals.
People get excited at the sound of someone being an "elder" in a specific tribe.
Like they must have something cool to learn.
But I've never seen a single one who understood sorcery.
Instead, I've seen a lot of "entitled" ones.
If one came into this subreddit they'd curse it. Because it would make their tribe look impotent.
Someone with real magic would love this place. They might correct some misunderstandings if they were more advanced than we are, but they'd never in a million years get angry at seeing it.
That would be like an old geezer at the old folks home, the horseshoe champion of the west, getting angry because some kids were pretending they could play the game too.
He'd be overjoyed!
Getting angry means, they're a fake.
With slightly better credentials than the usual fakes who are not native American.
One thing I witnessed as a child was seeing that the local tribes of southern California had rituals remarkably like those from the books of Carlos.
I was an "anthropologist brat". The kids that mess up the dig, and steal arrowheads.
And so I got to see "elders" up the wazoo.
Like, a shaman digging a meter down to get the Datura root.
Just like in the books! Wow, verification.
Nope.
The guy was a bad player who had read the books and was up to the usual bad player activities.
Pretending.
Carlos didn't engage in cultural appropriation. That culture (the Olmecs) has been gone thousands of years. All he did was honor it.
But the local tribes did, when they copied what Carlos wrote in his books figuring they had an advantage, being Indian.
Mexico is it's own "Separate World." In-between the primeval jungle and westernized America.
The film Apocalypto, which depicts Central American Mayans, is pretty much the closest you're going to get to what it would have actually looked like before the arrival of the conquistadors in 1519 (start of the Spanish-Aztec war).
The Aztecs were different culturally of course, but Apocalypto is probably in the ballpark.
Peyote song…. somehow reminds me of a certain book by a certain author… 🤔😜, was the OP's title for this [user-deleted] post, and the content was as follows (restore from backup):
A Wixaritari chant, sung by an elder Wixarika, Hikuri/Peyote song. Native to Mexico, Guardians of Hikuri🦌
https://web.archive.org/web/20210902050414/https://old.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/p1ymmw/peyote_song_somehow_reminds_me_of_a_certain_book/