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I would say “the fire from within” as I believe it was the first book to mention the assemblage point.
Yer right I didn’t read them in order or know the sequence of the books
But the teachings on the assemblage point has been something I have tried to understand for many years
Journey to Ixtlan! The plot progresses so well, Carlos seems to experience so much, Genaro is hilarious, and I will forever be on my way to Ixtlan.
The first of the series that I have read twice.
Hi there
That’s probably the biggest or most incomprehensible thing I have heard from the books there have been so many profound articulations and many I have practiced but this for me is the next level
Do you think Carlos was saying that everything and everyone is either a simulation or created by our awareness /consciousness
And when we completely understand it
It means we then have the choice like in the matrix to go back into the simulation or realise that we create the universe we perceive
Yes, but there's the complication of our connection to physical matter, which also has voting rights.
But, as hard as it is to believe, in one of Taisha's writings, she says that sorcerers have absolute control over reality.
And yet, that didn't allow Carlos to avoid dying.
I suppose his physical matter overrode his vote.
I don’t know much of the end times of Carlos
I have heard many things most negative
Are you informed of his last years
I would like to hear a bit of it
We've already done the work on that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/reputation
I was there.
Carlos "sort of" assigned me to this task on reddit.
And forced Cholita into it. She isn't happy about that.
Went somewhere else to escape.
personally I would say the first, as that put the hook in.
Yep I was 18 when I read it
It was the most profound text I had ever read
It was like the never ending story where the boy reading the book merges
Since I read it the first time I have lived my life with his books as my guides
Why have there not been a move made about his story’s if it was anything like the books it would be the best adventure movie ever made
That would be a good movie. Maybe, depends on director.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/audiovisual
Scroll down to Project Ixtlan - The Spot. The Matrix (look to the upcoming reboot in December as well) and the original Star Wars films were heavily influenced by Castaneda's work.
Really! I didn’t know that
But it certainly explains how the philosophy had some consistency and depth probably what makes the movies so good early ones anyway
What’s your favourite book of Carlos or the best bits out of a book
I don't think of it in terms of individual books, but rather the whole of it as a cohesive unit; along with all the extra workshop notes, interviews, and articles; which I am currently working at making more accessible (searchable).
That daunting task has been a long time coming.
But if pressed I'd have to say that 'A Separate Reality' is my jam.
That’s a great effort to compile all of the information
That’s awesome I will surly utilise that database if it becomes available
Tales of Power – It has a lot of information on the tonal and nagual, and it also has The Sorcerer’s Explanation.
Is there a recording of the book available somewhere
I listen while I’m driving and working
I read it years ago but I get new information every time I re listen to every book
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/audiobooks
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/audio of their Radio Interviews
Really appreciate the links
Cheers mate
Its no fun, but you'd do well to use driving time to force off the internal dialogue.
That's the key to all of it. Can't get around it.
On the other hand, you could still force silence while listening to it.
And the story would keep you from fantasizing about 'me'. Which would let the assemblage point drift.
As to the obvious question, yes if you force silence while driving it can disturb it at first.
But later it makes you a way better driver to be silent. Super hearing, super sight, no anger, no frustration. No lack of attention on the road, no angry fantasizing distracting you from noticing everything all around you.
The dangerous parts in the beginning are time and space distortion from your assemblage point moving in the green zone.
Yep I have actually experienced the time space distortion when driving so I have stopped particular breathing when I’m the car
For me I really enjoy having it in the background
I make furniture as a hobby and I just play the books in the shed mostly
But living in Australia a drive to work can be 3 hours each way often
Though I really enjoy just happen upon a few sentences that I had heard before but after what ever amount of time hearing it again I will get a new insight that explains a new observation in meditation or dreaming
The majority of time I will be in silence though
I love just feeling the wind when driving
I’m not too sure about the ‘me’ you referring to but
Are you describing the habitual position of the assemblage point?
If so then yer for many years when I was younger it was a full mental adventure I had no human anywhere to help me see through the societal construct and push through the fear of being very different
So it’s taken 22 years and a lot of practice to know through feeling that there is so much more reality than
What we are led to believe
And these books have been a significant part for me through the whole process
And communicating with like minded people like your self is so good as living in a small country town it’s very rare to talk about such things
Yes. "ME" is a position between the toes. The beam of awareness points there, fueling obsessive fantasizing about your relation to the world. Here's a picture. Lower left:
If you move the assemblage point, that's not precisely the same as moving the beam of awareness. We have a certain "range" at any position. If you can eliminate thoughts containing yourself as the object of the discussion, that's nearly as good as eliminating the internal dialogue.
It is in fact a VERY important topic, but it didn't get into the books. At workshops and in private classes, it came up often.
Of course, sorcery is not based on theories. You can visually see the "Me spot". Mashing energy is the best technique for that.
AUSTRALIA??!!!!
Learn to "See Energy", then scan the ground with that whitish light. It's what one of the Genaros used to find that old Toltec artifact, which caused La Gorda to be chased by phantoms.
I have a theory you could see gold nuggets under the ground using that.
Just don't tell anyone.
I'm already worried what's happened to Cholita, because I blabbed about her powers.
this is on point.
i am listening to audio books and as I am practicing silence it happens to me that I listen to the books but not really listening. gazing the sound could be a metaphor.
next thing I know AP shifts. not yet knowledgeable enough about the J curve but If i keep the silence, next thing I know I have vivid visions in my face in broad daylight. or night as well. else I get stuck in that floating feeling and my dialogue kicks in.
really felt the power that stories carry, beyond the reasoning. and the intention behind them.
sometimes the symptom before is uneasy feeling in my body, muscles, bones, and if I ignore it it cracks the barrier.
Wow.
Some nights I get an "off topic" experience, and just ignore it.
But the next day, someone mentions it. As if I got a "heads up" from the phantom subreddit.
The story telling topic from the books is much more important than any of us realize.
I saw it last night. A tunnel formed in the north east corner of my room, stretching out millions of miles into space.
I was thinking, "How did that form??? Just because I was thinking of an alternative to something? Or was it perceiving the abstract? Is there any use to this?"
I concluded, women could really use that well.
Here's the quote, but you'll get to see this yourself at some point.
And it makes you think, "What the hell????? Do I live in a virtual reality?"
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"I'm going to tell you something fundamental about sorcerers and their acts of sorcery," he went on. "Something about the somersault of their thought into the inconceivable."
He said that some sorcerers were storytellers. Storytelling for them was not only the advance runner that probed their perceptual limits, but also their path to perfection; to power; to the spirit.
He was quiet for a moment, obviously searching for an appropriate example. Then he reminded me that the Yaqui Indians had a collection of historical events they called 'the memorable dates'.
I knew that the memorable dates were oral accounts of their history as a nation when they waged war against the invaders of their homeland: the Spaniards first; the Mexicans later. Don Juan, a Yaqui himself, stated emphatically that the memorable dates were accounts of their defeats and disintegration.
He asked me, "So, what would you say- since you are a learned man- about a sorcerer storyteller's taking an account from the memorable dates- let's say, for example, the story of Calixto Muni- and changing the ending so that instead of describing how Calixto Muni was drawn and quartered by the Spanish executioners, which is what happened; he tells a story of Calixto Muni the victorious rebel who succeeded in liberating his people?"
I knew the story of Calixto Muni. He was a Yaqui Indian who, according to the memorable dates, served for many years on a buccaneer ship in the Caribbean in order to learn war strategy. Then he returned to his native Sonora, managed to start an uprising against the Spaniards, and declared a war of independence; only to be betrayed, captured, and executed.
Don Juan coaxed me to comment. I told him I would have to assume that changing the factual account in the manner he was describing would be a psychological device; a sort of wishful thinking on the sorcerer storyteller's part. Or perhaps it would be a personal, idiosyncratic [* idiosyncratic- peculiar to the individual] way of alleviating frustration. I added that I would even call such a sorcerer storyteller a patriot because he was unable to accept bitter defeat.
Don Juan laughed until he was choking.
"But it's not a matter of one sorcerer storyteller," he argued. "They all do that."
"Then it's a socially sanctioned device to express the wishful thinking of a whole society," I retorted. "A socially accepted way of releasing psychological stress collectively."
"Your argument is glib and convincing and reasonable," he commented. "But because your spirit is dead, you can't see the flaw in your argument."
He eyed me as if coaxing me to understand what he was saying. I had no comment, and anything I might have said would have made me sound peevish.
"The sorcerer storyteller who changes the ending of the 'factual' account," he said, "does it at the direction and under the auspices [* auspices- kindly endorsement and guidance] of the spirit. Because he can manipulate his elusive connection with intent, he can actually change things. The sorcerer storyteller signals that he has intended it by taking off his hat, putting it on the ground, and turning it a full three hundred and sixty degrees counterclockwise. Under the auspices of the spirit, that simple act plunges him into the spirit itself. He has let his thought somersault into the inconceivable."
Don Juan lifted his arm above his head and pointed for an instant to the sky above the horizon.
"Because his pure understanding is an advance runner probing that immensity out there," don Juan went on, "the sorcerer storyteller knows without a shadow of doubt that somewhere, somehow, in that infinity, at this very moment the spirit has descended. Calixto Muni is victorious. He has delivered his people. His goal has transcended his person."
Just make sure it's not Art of Dreaming. That's a death trap.
If people followed the instructions it wouldn't be, but it gives them the excuse to do nothing, and pretend ordinary vivid dreams are sorcery. So they can get what they really want: To trick other people into believing they have super powers.
What we're trying to do in here, is show them that they actually do, so give up on caring if others believe it, and work hard to get more.
Otherwise, as far as the books go and which is best, you'll be pleased to find that this system is extremely interconnected, and in fact everything flows from understanding how to reskim emanations.
Once you can alter reality, even just to make a tiny floating dream, every other thing is automatic. Even seemingly unrelated stuff.
Discovering that seems to be the very definition of cleaning our link to intent.
Which is what sorcery really is. Discovering how we create our reality with our thoughts and actions, and how to get more control over it.
At some point you start to wonder exactly what you asked later in your post. About whether this might be a virtual reality.
It is! But there's no geek in control. It's the Eagle.
We're just probes.
I suspect theres a complicated thing regarding using a body made of physical matter. That's what makes it seem too good to be true that sorcery works. But that's a complicated side topic.
In the books, be careful of the first 4. Those taught about rituals used by the less knowledgeable Olmec men of knowledge.
So people try to duplicate small parts of the rituals, not realizing those just help reskim emanations.
Seers go directly for that. And the rituals are only of intellectual interest.
1st
The Active Side of Infinity, because predator "flyers" show us how vulnerable we are to baddies using esoteric methods: the Archons of Manichaeism, the Anunaki in the WingMakers mythos, etc. If an attack is too weird to understand, how do we defend against it? Generations of trial & error until successful?
From my experience the fundamental is to not try and use logic or reasoning to describe a non physical being with words. as soon as my mind tried to say what it is or was I would spiral Into fear then I was a sitting duck
But with regular meditation and other practices to just be and not try to explain what you perceive in a given situation then for me anyway I have not felt threatened or in danger when I have met inorganic beings
Another thing I have done is go into the Forrest in Australia by my self no phone no torch no gun
And sit most of the night and it was intense early on but now it’s so peaceful being in the wash of qi of the land and being acknowledged by the land as a part of it not separate from the free flow
Yeah, the wordy part of the mind is the "foreign installation" designed to get us thinking like the flyers, like a ransom-ware application. That's one reason why silent knowledge is so important, because we have something like root access to jailbeak our brain.
I disagree that we shouldn't use any logic, we shouldn't use their logic. It's a trap, it leads to fanaticism. Even arguing about different fictional characters interacting can lead people to absurd levels of mutual antagonism. Not to mention political parties. It's to divide & conquer: the oldest, most effective military strategy around. Notice how the world is more polarized than ever?
Yes it is I live in the most lockdown city in the world
People are really losing it and it’s all just a story
And the people are the one that hold it up against themselves
It’s really an amazing thing to observe
All I ment with logic is to logically explain it
I’m left school at 14 and missed the spelling and grammar parts
And funny enough the teachings of Don Juan was the first Book I read over 4 years after school
The first - as it got me to read the rest (and to rekindle my childhood love of reading)
“The cosmic serpent” by Jeremy narby.. it inspired me to do ayahuasca in peru. Which was the best decision iv ever made