What people \"return\" to, if they reject the coldness of sorcery
When you practice sorcery, you don't actually have to give up anything.
Except for a few hours a day, during which you'd be watching videos, or attempting to find a suitable mate.
Not that you ever will find one, but it's odd that people start thinking in terms of what they had to give up, when that really isn't the case.
What they're really worried about giving up, is the illusion.
The delusion.
The hazing.
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It's because people don't really believe in sorcery. Therefore they can't accept what's to win with sorcery. And so they have to think about what's to lose concerning sorcery. They don't use their death as advisor. In death, everything's already lost. So there's no reason for worrying about anymore. But they won't do it, because of their fear of death. Has nothing to do with the "please love me" syndrome, so it's out of their range. Only intent can help them.
Worse, lets say we somehow managed to "prove" sorcery was amazing. In this subreddit!
Gotta have hobbies...
You'd get 1000 times more fake sorcery teachers, until it was buried over.
That's because the Castaneda eco system only supports so many animals.
When I go after phony teachers out there, I often find they're not actually active anymore.
Didn't pay off.
In the wild, if you increase the food supply you get more animals, until food returns to being in short supply.
Maybe the whole problem these days is money?
The existence of money.
But the local Indians in my area had beads and abalone shells for money.
The Olmecs must have also.
And they required the men of knowledge to have licenses.
Which implies, even back then bad men tried to sell fake stuff.
Maybe danl999, it's hard for people to change something after 35-40 years old. After that age, any changes are pain in ass. When one's young and aggressive they don't buy such thing like CC.
But there always some exceptions.
We would have gotten more, if people were getting good results, and it was well known.
well im 20 and im rly excited to learn and practice as much as I can, I've gone through reading about most known "conspiracy theories", read a lot about ufos, archons, religions, hermetism, gnosticism, alchemy, Buddhism & hinduism, all sorts of meditations, lucid dreaming, astral projection (Robert Monroe), but I have always felt like something is missing in all of those teachings, like all of them left some questions unanswered. And now that I've found Carlos Castaneda and the Don Juan''s teachings (after a colleague of mine introduced me to shamanism and I started researching) I finally feel like I've gotten to the roots of all of the questions that I've had. I now have to become impeccable and work on my inner silence and I am sure that if I have enough patience I will get to the juicy magic. I've experienced an involuntary out of body experience, felt a lot of strange presence in my room like something is lurking behind me while I am reading about the "crazy" stuff that I read about daily, a lot of shiverings, I've noticed some strange lights in my peripherical view while having silenced my thoughts for some time but then I immediately get excited and everything returns to normal. What I've noticed is how much easier it is to do this after getting out of the sauna, like everything starts to blur and I start to melt with my surroundings but again I get excited and I can't transcend this. But I am sure there's more to it and I am really eager to advance. Would be really interested in attending some kinds of meetings or getting a good teacher that knows this stuff but sadly I am from Eastern Europe and don't know where to connect with such people, and I am aware most of them just want to take my money and as you have said Dan, they don't know real magic, they just pretend. Anyways, I am thankful for your work on keeping the legacy of Castaneda's teaching in this reddit, keep it up buddy, best wishes and sorry for my poor english haha!
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But women can do this by accident, which is what makes them witches.
They can gain the powers of the double just by trying to do weird stuff to soothe themselves monthly.
And I seem to remember seeing those purple puffs we use for darkroom practice, as a young child, when getting into a nice hot bath (not too hot).
Because the contrast on your skin temporarily stops that internal dialogue enough to let the energy body return.
So a sauna ought to be able to do that also.
Unfortunately, that couldn't be used as a technique because as soon as you realized it works, you'd have your internal dialogue return each time, filled with self-pity about whether this will keep working, and whether you can learn sorcery this way.
So it's not a viable way to learn, but it ought to be true that a sauna gives you the power of your double, to some small extent.
Anything like that is a total fraud, and only exists to cheat you out of your money.
NO ONE has ever taught sorcery by that method.
Never.
Anyone claiming they can, is a con artist.
So be careful. Study in here until you understand why what you suggest is not possible.
And read more of the books. The first 3 are largely just trickery and not anything you want to be involved with.
The "Men of Knowledge" were the bad guys in the books, not the good guys.
Not only can you never be like them (all rituals and allies are lost now), but you surely wouldn't want to be. They NEVER learned to "see".
They were merely profiteers who actually had magical rituals which worked, using an Ally. Around 3500 years ago.
Almost surely, no one you'll ever run into in person has an Ally.
Not even someone who claims to be a "shaman".
Frauds all.
Shamans are the worst because they're on the right track, but are too lazy to actually learn anything real, and are greedy to steal money from others.
Native American or otherwise.
One question about CC teaching ( Olmec).
If someone asks me about that , should I explain to him, or direct him to this subreddit, or it's okay to not tell anything.
Thanks
I don't understand the question.
But I suppose if someone had time, they could make a post on the Olmec thing.
We'd have to locate the Siberian boat crash around 13,000 years ago, and see if they've traced the Olmec population back before the classic time limit they give, which is around 6000 years ago.
Or show that the unique facial features of the Olmecs agree with a Siberian origin.
The werejaguar and dreaming double statues the Olmecs made are very nice. Those agree 100% with the books.
Especially the odd depiction of the double as attached to the man, but in a weird position.
And in one it's a were jaguar.
Possibly in the other too.
When you learn to shapeshift, you begin to realize you can't really do that.
But the double can.
Which also explains why no one notices your activities most of the time.
But can on occasion. The way I can easily see Cholita's double, but it's unlikely a non-sorcerer could.
Some of the "proof" might have to rely on sorcery knowledge, if you wanted to convince bad player men.
And they have none.
For example, if you had an angry Castaneda fan who was assaulting everyone in social media, and you were trying to get him to stop being such an asshole.
But I'm not sure there's any point at all in trying to correct those guys.
It's like trying to give a job to a troubled youth, and not realizing. He doesn't want a job.
Sorry about question, I meant my wife likes telling people or her friends that I (her husband) practicing what CC thought. Sometimes people ask me about CC and why I am doing that.
I don't like to talk about that b/c it's hard to explain especially about DRG. I referred them to read the books that CC wrote.
Thanks.
Oddly, I have experience in just about any situation you might run into, regarding Carlos.
I don't know if it's relevant, but I've found it's not helpful to try to redefine Carlos as "Olmec shamanism" when discussing it with others.
You get less shit.
But then you get caught, and they lynch you even harder.
They feel they caught you in a "trick", so that proves it's a cult just like it says on google.
On the other hand, if they know who Carlos is you're likely to get lynched anyway.
Yea, that is really it. People think that only Buddhism is the right path nothing more
What I trying to tell them that I sitting and think nothing and don't relate any Oriental staff.
Ah, evangelizing.
Never fun.
But if you got one who kept it up, that's worth it.
And doing that lets you rub up against petty tyrants.
You also get rewarded if you do a good job.
You'll be pondering the horror of arguing with delusional Buddhists, when it's totally obvious they're off their rockers.
But Buddhist are VERY angry people. And feel entitled to be delusional.
You stand up to them, and improve your arguments for the next time.
But then when you're practicing at night, you can't stop thinking about it.
The thing is, it's a recent event.
So in fact, it's fairly easy to ignore.
But it feels the same as a long time thing you can't clear from your mind.
So while practicing, the assemblage point moves down, but then it moves sideways a bit.
Like a feather dropping in still air. It sort of "rocks" as it falls.
That "burns" a wider path for your assemblage point to use, moving down.
And stirs up unused emanations.
Then, you get a reward.
Not always. But often enough, to make you feel ok about it.
That's how I learned to shift my assemblage point sideways.
I had gotten into trouble with people, and found myself standing in the corner of my darkroom, where there had been an energetic accident with Fairy, months before.
I was curious, and looked in that direction.
My IOB Fancy was standing there, dressed like little red riding hood!
I believe she picked up on Fairy having been dressed in a costume, when the accident occurred.
So Fancy wore her own.
I looked at her with a tiny bit of lust, and she said, "I'll teach you sliding dreaming."
Naturally, I was thinking of the "other kind" of sliding when she said that.
There's a picture in here somewhere.