Someone in chat found this YouTube video, made in 2009, per the title.
It obviously appears that the house has been pretty much gutted, presumably prior to renovation as it looks like some of the windows may have been replaced.
It's certainly on a corner like his home, but how come the photographer didn't show us the intersection signs?
Still, it gave me a good place to leave some pointers to here. Via Instagram. I don't point people directly anymore, because it's too easy for bad players.
Of whom we still have 3 in the last week who haven't been tossed out yet.
Let's get that filter going.
When too many piss on this place, it starts to smell like urine.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-06 20:41
Well, I guess there's only one way to solve it. Have someone else go there to film, and hope they don't get detained by the police.
These are strange times.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-06 21:03
I have a "stalking partner" who's agreed to film stuff for me.
Pandora, Dance home, the sorcerer's cave, the parking garage of Carlos when he found a beam that gave him the tingle on the top of the head.
We were ready to do it, and then the plague hit us.
We're still in "plague mode".
Hey! Maybe the plague helped this subreddit?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-02-06 21:21
I've had that thought myself.
A lot of people stuck at home with too much time on their hands, being more willing to give the homebound practices a go.
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-06 22:31
Now we need a new mutation which only kills bad players.
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u/Gnos_Yidari
-1 points2022-02-07 00:17
What we're seeing with vaccine conspiracy types, of their often unhinged behavior and thinking, is like seeing natural selection condensed down to weeks instead of decades.
They even have a sub for it, r/HermanCainAward 💀
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u/NightComprehensive52
1 points2022-02-06 19:25
Lol, lil creepy
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u/SilenceisGolden29
1 points2022-02-06 20:11
Dude lived nice
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-06 20:16
I don't think so, but the camera work is so poor, he never lingers on any details that i could use to verify it, and someon gutted that house out. It's not even finished.
I can't imagine anyone gutting that amazing house Carlos had. It was pristine.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-06 20:23
It's hard to believe that guy would have been stupid enough to have filmed the wrong house, when his channel is about presenting authentic "spiritual locations." And that extensive hedge matches the photos on Sustained Action.
Maybe they didn't like the major haunted house creepy vibes, and were rich enough (or rather a corporation) to gut it in order to turn it into apartments for university students.
Or a style-obsessed Californian with a house remodeling addiction. There's no shortage of real estate flippers.
Or they could have been churchy fundamentalists with deep pockets, who felt compelled to sanitize the "stink of satan" from it.
The world is filled with extremists, like the Taliban who destroyed the last traces of Buddhism from Afghanistan, who are driven to erase things they believe are unholy.
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-06 20:59
But would they remove the picnic areas i the middle? A huge high quality wood table around 15 feet long, with a nice wood "cabinet" next to it, and sliding drawers for silver ware. And empty and covered in concrete or bricks area, to give sorcery theater.
And there were likely 3 cottages along the sides. I didn't see any. Maybe one, the one Joanie lived in, but the shot was only a half second and blurry.
If he'd just raised the camera up to show "Pandora" on the sign.
Why wouldn't he do that to prove it was the right location?
But it could be. if someone "gutted" it.
I also didn't recognize the entry ways, but it was a long time ago, and I was "led" though my path each time I visited.
Whichever it is, if he doesn't remove my comments, that will be a good thing to have out there.
I'd say 50% remove my comments from their videos.
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u/Gnos_Yidari
1 points2022-02-07 00:11
Neither video shows the inner courtyard of the complex. Just peaks through the outer windows. But your description of it paints a picture!
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-07 01:28
maybe ultimately 5 apartments for rent
the city changed some laws recently in order to increase smaller dwellings
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u/ODx2
1 points2022-02-06 22:03
if you don't film the inside of the toilet then what's the point ? 🤷 it's all waste of time .
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u/FractalFreak21
1 points2022-02-07 00:31
imagine the IOBs and energy around that place………the guy better behaved……………..does anyone know who owns the place now? at least they should have made a museum about sorcery there………or even better, turn it into a retreat centre………but commercial flats? ufff…
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u/danl999
4 points2022-02-07 00:42
I just realize what an amazing thing this could be, if that was indeed his pandora house and they were gutting it and adding more beams, to put a few apartments in there.
And maybe in the backyard, where they already had a couple of places to stay.
Carlos offered to sell us the place, but then he withdrew the idea when he saw it wasn't as easy to sell to us as he thought.
He seemed to want to "keep it in the family".
Why?
Then that didn't work out, and we're seeing here there may be access to it, without having to buy it?
Forever?
How perfect is that?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-07 00:53
You mean being able to potentially rent it?
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-07 01:23
yea
bad keyboard...
lets say the lineage had assets
art if nothing else
and some apprentices of don juan are not dead
and say the phantom pandora is connected to stuff
so now anyone who wants can gain access without buying it
that sort of crazyness becomes more visible as you move further
maybe just to keep you working
now even more crazy
just for fun
taisha and flo suggested don juan got trapped in iob world
or did they say second attention
how do they know?
and if they found them what would stop visiting often?
and if you visited in that house would you not leave a passage?
wouldnt that be easiest as an add on door in the phantom house?
beats me
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u/Ok-Assistance175
1 points2022-02-07 06:32
Looks like that current address is now some real estate investment business- recently acquired on June 2021.
There are plenty interesting photos of the interior available online at the popular real estate sites 🥸
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-07 09:01
Is it now independant apartments?
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u/Ok-Assistance175
1 points2022-02-07 15:35
Nope. Some real estate investment resides there; it’s unclear whether they own or lease, and it’s way too far to check the books at the city. The links are gone from Zillow, which showed a purchase date in 1973, and subsequent activity as recent as 6/21.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-08 16:02
Carlos probably bought it in 73.
Google is censoring the pic. If I get some time, I'm going to move down the street and look back at it, to see what they're censoring.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-07 14:42
Is the link still in your history? I'm not finding it on the three real estate sites I spied.
And that link above, does contain a Street View link of the building at the corner of Pandora Ave. & Eastborne, with the small apartment listed for rent facing Eastborne. Move left in the Street View to see the 1600 S. Pandora Avenue street sign.
My guess is that they didn’t need that space, and chose to rented it out as an apartment. But it’s not on the market right now.
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-08 00:18
1600 S. Pandora Avenue
I'm confused. None of that is the place. Which one did you think it was? The corner one you mentioned?
Nope.
1672?
Maybe, but the picture on google street image is censored!
And, the main house is a 2 story, not one.
The censored rectangle confuses me about the house height, but it only seems to be one story, looking at the next house.
I'll have to drive over there.
So the ownership is mysterious?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-08 00:33
1672
That’s what the caption under the first image here says:
And this (pending screenshot) from Streetview, accessed via that Zillow listing, sure looks like Joanie’s apartment (?)
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u/danl999
2 points2022-02-08 16:09
Yea, that's the place. However, Joanie ended up in a side shack on ground level.
As for the one over the garage, I never saw that. Probably should have looked up.
But Carlos led me right up to Joanie, and had me shake her hand. It was a portable prefab mini dewlling.
Having me shake her hand is possibly a bit of a prank.
I think my Dad was bonking Joanie at one point.
No way to know now, unless I want to ask my mom who our father had affairs with in the UC System.
But Joanie and Morongo were connected, as was my dad and Morongo, and Joanie seemed to like anthropologists. And there were at least 2 coeds getting frisky with my dad. Because he could get hold of cocaine perhaps. And also, young women sometimes get the idea in their head, to have sex with someone not up to the high standards of women in their early 20s, as long as they have a "genius" level IQ. It's some kind of weird evolutionary loophole.
I've had offers from women 35 years younger than me, who justified it with "I'd like to have a genius baby."
Good thing Carlos made me celibate.
Carlos of course would have known if my father was involved with Joanie or not.
If Carlos knew he was, how tricky is that??? To have me shake her hand.
An "evil gesture" to the spirit only?
Or if Joanie knew who I was, then it was like, "you know I have to get you to move on, but you were never really faithful to me anyway."
Something a woman would instantly get.
By the way, I have it firsthand that autistic kids don't notice who their parents are cheating with.
But 50 years later, they tend to reason it out.
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u/Ok-Assistance175
1 points2022-02-07 15:59
Not what i saw… this must be the other entrance, right?
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-07 16:02
I think it might be what was Joanie Barker’s apartment. Presumably a separate out-building.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-08 00:23
A little shack with steps leading up, like it was put on top of a high flower bed. Immediately to the right of the main house wall, around 15 feet away so I suppose you could drive a car in there. Might have been the driveway in the middle, but I only came in from a small bushy entrance, and was led right into the house.
One time, Carlos let me find my own way out.
That type of shack Joanie had is around $10,000 without plumbing. I tried to get Cholita to let me put 3 of those in our backyard, and then make them livable with their own plumbing.
But she insisted on a big fountain in the middle, making that impractical, and then spent 3 times as much as the shacks would have been, making the house the way she wanted it.
I'd been hoping she'd invite old classmates over, and show them her double.
All they'd have to do was sleep in the little apartments next to her, after learning to move their assemblage points to the deep green zone, or maybe early red zone.
Her double is visible at the same point the IOBs are visible.
Which means something, but I have no idea what.
IOB manifestations are nothing at all like manifestations of the double. I did see both at the same time, when Cholita brought me Minx, hoping I'd be frightened of him.
She deliberately lay across my legs on the bed, so I was "pinned down", then had Minx float in and bloom into a huge demon head.
Odd thing about that sort of sight, you don't go away thinking, "Holy Shit, that was so cool! I have to go call someone!"
Instead, you start to convince yourself it never happened.
If you hear someone describe how excited they were to see "real magic", likely they didn't.
I had someone take a look at the Pandora house on google street view just now, to explain to me why it was censored. It has a big white rectangle over the main house.
He admitted, that was really odd.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-08 00:58
If you have any links, put them here and I’ll switch the old ones out.
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Someone in chat found this YouTube video, made in 2009, per the title.
It obviously appears that the house has been pretty much gutted, presumably prior to renovation as it looks like some of the windows may have been replaced.
Edit: here's another video of the
outside of the house
2nd Edit: the Wiki's Pandora Complex page
Nope. Not his house.
It's certainly on a corner like his home, but how come the photographer didn't show us the intersection signs?
Still, it gave me a good place to leave some pointers to here. Via Instagram. I don't point people directly anymore, because it's too easy for bad players.
Of whom we still have 3 in the last week who haven't been tossed out yet.
Let's get that filter going.
When too many piss on this place, it starts to smell like urine.
Well, I guess there's only one way to solve it. Have someone else go there to film, and hope they don't get detained by the police.
These are strange times.
I have a "stalking partner" who's agreed to film stuff for me.
Pandora, Dance home, the sorcerer's cave, the parking garage of Carlos when he found a beam that gave him the tingle on the top of the head.
We were ready to do it, and then the plague hit us.
We're still in "plague mode".
Hey! Maybe the plague helped this subreddit?
I've had that thought myself.
A lot of people stuck at home with too much time on their hands, being more willing to give the homebound practices a go.
Now we need a new mutation which only kills bad players.
What we're seeing with vaccine conspiracy types, of their often unhinged behavior and thinking, is like seeing natural selection condensed down to weeks instead of decades.
They even have a sub for it, r/HermanCainAward 💀
Lol, lil creepy
Dude lived nice
I don't think so, but the camera work is so poor, he never lingers on any details that i could use to verify it, and someon gutted that house out. It's not even finished.
I can't imagine anyone gutting that amazing house Carlos had. It was pristine.
It's hard to believe that guy would have been stupid enough to have filmed the wrong house, when his channel is about presenting authentic "spiritual locations." And that extensive hedge matches the photos on Sustained Action.
Maybe they didn't like the major haunted house creepy vibes, and were rich enough (or rather a corporation) to gut it in order to turn it into apartments for university students.
Or a style-obsessed Californian with a house remodeling addiction. There's no shortage of real estate flippers.
Or they could have been churchy fundamentalists with deep pockets, who felt compelled to sanitize the "stink of satan" from it.
The world is filled with extremists, like the Taliban who destroyed the last traces of Buddhism from Afghanistan, who are driven to erase things they believe are unholy.
But would they remove the picnic areas i the middle? A huge high quality wood table around 15 feet long, with a nice wood "cabinet" next to it, and sliding drawers for silver ware. And empty and covered in concrete or bricks area, to give sorcery theater.
And there were likely 3 cottages along the sides. I didn't see any. Maybe one, the one Joanie lived in, but the shot was only a half second and blurry.
If he'd just raised the camera up to show "Pandora" on the sign.
Why wouldn't he do that to prove it was the right location?
But it could be. if someone "gutted" it.
I also didn't recognize the entry ways, but it was a long time ago, and I was "led" though my path each time I visited.
Whichever it is, if he doesn't remove my comments, that will be a good thing to have out there.
I'd say 50% remove my comments from their videos.
Neither video shows the inner courtyard of the complex. Just peaks through the outer windows. But your description of it paints a picture!
maybe ultimately 5 apartments for rent
the city changed some laws recently in order to increase smaller dwellings
if you don't film the inside of the toilet then what's the point ? 🤷 it's all waste of time .
imagine the IOBs and energy around that place………the guy better behaved……………..does anyone know who owns the place now? at least they should have made a museum about sorcery there………or even better, turn it into a retreat centre………but commercial flats? ufff…
I just realize what an amazing thing this could be, if that was indeed his pandora house and they were gutting it and adding more beams, to put a few apartments in there.
And maybe in the backyard, where they already had a couple of places to stay.
Carlos offered to sell us the place, but then he withdrew the idea when he saw it wasn't as easy to sell to us as he thought.
He seemed to want to "keep it in the family".
Why?
Then that didn't work out, and we're seeing here there may be access to it, without having to buy it?
Forever?
How perfect is that?
You mean being able to potentially rent it?
yea
bad keyboard...
lets say the lineage had assets
art if nothing else
and some apprentices of don juan are not dead
and say the phantom pandora is connected to stuff
so now anyone who wants can gain access without buying it
that sort of crazyness becomes more visible as you move further
maybe just to keep you working
now even more crazy
just for fun
taisha and flo suggested don juan got trapped in iob world
or did they say second attention
how do they know?
and if they found them what would stop visiting often?
and if you visited in that house would you not leave a passage?
wouldnt that be easiest as an add on door in the phantom house?
beats me
Looks like that current address is now some real estate investment business- recently acquired on June 2021.
There are plenty interesting photos of the interior available online at the popular real estate sites 🥸
Is it now independant apartments?
Nope. Some real estate investment resides there; it’s unclear whether they own or lease, and it’s way too far to check the books at the city. The links are gone from Zillow, which showed a purchase date in 1973, and subsequent activity as recent as 6/21.
Carlos probably bought it in 73.
Google is censoring the pic. If I get some time, I'm going to move down the street and look back at it, to see what they're censoring.
Is the link still in your history? I'm not finding it on the three real estate sites I spied.
edit: is this it?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10429-Eastborne-Ave-Los-Angeles-CA-90024/20507770_zpid/ (this page appears to randomly go off-line, bad server?)
Gone.
So this is what pops up now
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ca/202021010303
And that link above, does contain a Street View link of the building at the corner of Pandora Ave. & Eastborne, with the small apartment listed for rent facing Eastborne. Move left in the Street View to see the 1600 S. Pandora Avenue street sign.
My guess is that they didn’t need that space, and chose to rented it out as an apartment. But it’s not on the market right now.
I'm confused. None of that is the place. Which one did you think it was? The corner one you mentioned?
Nope.
1672?
Maybe, but the picture on google street image is censored!
And, the main house is a 2 story, not one.
The censored rectangle confuses me about the house height, but it only seems to be one story, looking at the next house.
I'll have to drive over there.
So the ownership is mysterious?
That’s what the caption under the first image here says:
http://sustainedaction.org/Images_Photos/Castaneda's_Westwood_compound.htm
And this (pending screenshot) from Streetview, accessed via that Zillow listing, sure looks like Joanie’s apartment (?)
Yea, that's the place. However, Joanie ended up in a side shack on ground level.
As for the one over the garage, I never saw that. Probably should have looked up.
But Carlos led me right up to Joanie, and had me shake her hand. It was a portable prefab mini dewlling.
Having me shake her hand is possibly a bit of a prank.
I think my Dad was bonking Joanie at one point.
No way to know now, unless I want to ask my mom who our father had affairs with in the UC System.
But Joanie and Morongo were connected, as was my dad and Morongo, and Joanie seemed to like anthropologists. And there were at least 2 coeds getting frisky with my dad. Because he could get hold of cocaine perhaps. And also, young women sometimes get the idea in their head, to have sex with someone not up to the high standards of women in their early 20s, as long as they have a "genius" level IQ. It's some kind of weird evolutionary loophole.
I've had offers from women 35 years younger than me, who justified it with "I'd like to have a genius baby."
Good thing Carlos made me celibate.
Carlos of course would have known if my father was involved with Joanie or not.
If Carlos knew he was, how tricky is that??? To have me shake her hand.
An "evil gesture" to the spirit only?
Or if Joanie knew who I was, then it was like, "you know I have to get you to move on, but you were never really faithful to me anyway."
Something a woman would instantly get.
By the way, I have it firsthand that autistic kids don't notice who their parents are cheating with.
But 50 years later, they tend to reason it out.
Not what i saw… this must be the other entrance, right?
I think it might be what was Joanie Barker’s apartment. Presumably a separate out-building.
A little shack with steps leading up, like it was put on top of a high flower bed. Immediately to the right of the main house wall, around 15 feet away so I suppose you could drive a car in there. Might have been the driveway in the middle, but I only came in from a small bushy entrance, and was led right into the house.
One time, Carlos let me find my own way out.
That type of shack Joanie had is around $10,000 without plumbing. I tried to get Cholita to let me put 3 of those in our backyard, and then make them livable with their own plumbing.
But she insisted on a big fountain in the middle, making that impractical, and then spent 3 times as much as the shacks would have been, making the house the way she wanted it.
I'd been hoping she'd invite old classmates over, and show them her double.
All they'd have to do was sleep in the little apartments next to her, after learning to move their assemblage points to the deep green zone, or maybe early red zone.
Her double is visible at the same point the IOBs are visible.
Which means something, but I have no idea what.
IOB manifestations are nothing at all like manifestations of the double. I did see both at the same time, when Cholita brought me Minx, hoping I'd be frightened of him.
She deliberately lay across my legs on the bed, so I was "pinned down", then had Minx float in and bloom into a huge demon head.
Odd thing about that sort of sight, you don't go away thinking, "Holy Shit, that was so cool! I have to go call someone!"
Instead, you start to convince yourself it never happened.
If you hear someone describe how excited they were to see "real magic", likely they didn't.
I had someone take a look at the Pandora house on google street view just now, to explain to me why it was censored. It has a big white rectangle over the main house.
He admitted, that was really odd.
If you have any links, put them here and I’ll switch the old ones out.
You're looking at it from the side.
Here's the front view, with the censorship.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/1672+Pandora+Ave,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90024/@34.0577385,-118.4257225,3a,75y,353.91h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl9iUFSwi0Fx3JlG9F36_mQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2bb8f32016fa1:0x68fb624c86c616e6!8m2!3d34.0579464!4d-118.4257137
However, looking at it from down the street, the "censorchip" might be a huge piece of white plywood.
🤦♀️I didn’t grab screenshots…something triggered the search results