u/camazotzhasarrived (looks to be a deleted profile) put up a post in the night that I removed, but as this one here will stay up, I may as well link it here...purely out of curiosity, as in the above content:
"Old Mayan magic rituals and pact making derived from bark tree parchments found in a cave in Latin America in 2020.
#Magick which hasn’t been practiced since the 5th century AD. Rituals and pact making with an old immensely powerful Mayan deity translated into practical workings. The deity is mentioned in the Popul Vuh and named Camazotz or the bat god.
The rituals and pact making are aimed at changing the life and circumstances of the practitioner for the better in every aspect"
Edit: I don’t see why you’d want to limit yourself to one IOB, or adopt rituals or pacts like the old sorcerers (who essentially failed) did. Makes me think they really only read the first few books of Castaneda’s.
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u/ODx2
2 points2022-02-21 10:17
also a pact isn't always good. also.not making one has its pros and cons also ... I have the feeling many successful people have made a pact of some form concius or unconscious . there is also the matrix theory about rituals is sort of an input code..to much theory that can keep you busy try to prove it .
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-02-21 13:31
Not that they would be able to explain or minimally understand the mechanics of what they are attempting, but essentially they are trying to "reinflate" and old intent bubble. A Mayan one from 1500 years ago. By re-establishing a connection to the particular IOB & realm that created it, via years of human interaction, in the first place.
But they're picking the equivalent of an old rundown 3x3 toolshed to "renovate," and then be stuck in.
I think they watched too many vampire movies 😏
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u/ODx2
2 points2022-02-21 13:45
yes again the eassy way out ... well there is no receipe to freedom if there was would be receipe dependand so its not freedom .
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-02-21 14:51
Since this is a misc. interesting ephemera post, here's something that was posted to Public Chat a few days ago:
[Tolteka17]
Is anybody aware here of the book 'Reality' by Peter Kingsley?
He talks about Parmenides in a way I've never seen before.
Apparently the Western "father of logic" was a sorcerer who practiced the ancient Greek equivalent to darkroom gazing: "incubation"
And from Practitioner Chat, on the subject of Judeo-Christian matters:
[danl999]
The jews were punished for worshipping false idols, and sent into slavery twice.
The first lot became europeans, at the end of a sword.
Constantine
Somehow calling themselves "christian" caused total amnesia, and history just wrote them away.
But tit's super easy to find them.
The Iberians were the most interesting.
Then there were the children of Cain, who you can also trace t hrough the geneologies in the bible, all the way to Rasputin, in Russia, who fulfilled a prophecy saying the royal family would be killed, and tossed into a lime pit to hide the bodies.
[username 1]
Something about a nomadic group that roamed what is now Ukraine, and instead of converting to Christianity, they adopted Judaism, and ‘blended’ in, and elbowed the sephardic jews out of the way.
[danl999]
he was part of the oldest cult in the world, the children of cain.
FAscinating stuff, until you realize the bible is full of shit, misrepresenting inorganic beings as demons and angels, and making up stories about them.
>Something about a nomadic group that roamed what is now Ukraine,
That would be the children of Cain.
They did that all over.
The most famous was when the jews were orderered to kill all the local tribes that had been infected with fallen angel blood.
[username 1]
Which bible books were a bad translation of ancient Ur? Wasn’t Abraham from Ur?
[danl999]
Two men were caught on the road, and prenteded to be travelers from a far, far away land.
[username 1]
Other books from Babylon
[danl999]
They ripped their clothes, bought moldy bread, and so the jews didn't kill them. They enslaved them in the church as servants. By the time of Jesus, they had completely replaced all the jews who ran the church.
It's fascinating.
Ur?
Also a fascinating part of the bible. There's some absolute magic going on in there.
Ur is part of it.
But look at this: Abraham took Isaac to the mountain to be a sacrifice. But God stopped him, and he saw a ram with it's head caught in the thorns. The ram became the susstittue sacrifice.
Jesus relived that tale. He had a crown of thorns, like the ram, and the mountain on which he was crucified, is less than a few miles from the mountain of Abraham.
Closer than that, it can't be pinpointed.
Might even be the very same spot.
However, Jesus went around exorcising demons from people, when in fact there are no demons.
He staged shows with schizophenics, who love attention and are happy to be "exorcised".
To cover his tracks, jesis explains they need to go study the bible, or they'll become posessed again.
Quite a con.
Fortunately, you can read what the jews wrote about their demons, and clearly see inorganic beings. They didn't exactly "lie", they just didn't explain much.
When you start to have supernatural experiences and want to write them down, you'll realize there are levels of "explaining", and if you are 100% upfront about "explaining everything", you kill the whole point.
Corey tried to do that in his notes on Carlos.
Techno throws up in his mouth a little each time he has to read those.
I did too.
Naturally, there's no law against magic in the bible. Just don't become a "witch".
But healers are fine, midwives, prophets even. The lead "prophet college" in the time of the kings, was run by a woman.
And the people who went to the desert for 40 years, eating locusts and honey, were doing magic. Nothing else.
They were using Qabalah sorcery, which is so close to ours, it can only be the false narratives that keep them from learning everything we know.
When they see a faint door, they don't know to go in there.
They keep trying to hang out watching God, the way Carlos did.
So if you want to be judeo/christian, it's fine.
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u/danl999
5 points2022-02-21 15:25
Seems kind of pointless. Abramelin is true, but uses the delusions of the Jews that everything is about God, angels, and demons.
They can't see things as they are, due to a false narrative that's plagued the world since the book of Job.
So while you can easily get yourself a demon and an angel to teach you magic, you won't see it that way for more than a few appearances.
Which means Abramelin was either lying to make his book deal, or couldn't really do what he said. Most typical is what Milarepa did, seeing demons in hell, and never doing it often enough to realize his mistake.
Those could also have been kittens on a fluffy bed.
Probably this is only interesting to someone who can't do anything.
It's a "look what I found" post, with no regard for the confusion it can cause in beginners.
Sorcery is 100% about where you focus your attention.
This is not a good place to focus it.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2022-02-21 16:56
It's a "look what I found" post, with no regard for the confusion it can cause in beginners.
Sorcery is 100% about where you focus your attention.
This is not a good place to focus it.
And I kept this up, waiting to put the SPOILER tag on it, until that fact came to the surface.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-02-25 17:40
u/Artivist on 2/25/2022:
"Darkroom practice reference in Indian mythologies?
The epic tells the tale of what happens when Gandhari finally removes the blindfold. She does this twice in her life, once just before the war at Kuru-kshetra, and once only after. Both these stories come from folk retellings of the Mahabharata.
The sages said that after years of covering her eyes, the first thing Gandhari would gaze upon would become invulnerable to all weapons. Determined to save the life of her firstborn son, Duryodhana, Gandhari told him to appear before her naked. Duryodhana obeyed but covered his hips with a banana leaf out of modesty. So when Gandhari saw him for the first time, she wept. She could save him, but not entirely. She realised he would die as was fated, with a blow to the hips.
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u/camazotzhasarrived (looks to be a deleted profile) put up a post in the night that I removed, but as this one here will stay up, I may as well link it here...purely out of curiosity, as in the above content:
Facebook UK Group - Return of Mayan vampire magic “with inspirations from Carlos Castaneda and Don Juan”
"Old Mayan magic rituals and pact making derived from bark tree parchments found in a cave in Latin America in 2020.
#Magick which hasn’t been practiced since the 5th century AD. Rituals and pact making with an old immensely powerful Mayan deity translated into practical workings. The deity is mentioned in the Popul Vuh and named Camazotz or the bat god.
The rituals and pact making are aimed at changing the life and circumstances of the practitioner for the better in every aspect"
Edit: I don’t see why you’d want to limit yourself to one IOB, or adopt rituals or pacts like the old sorcerers (who essentially failed) did. Makes me think they really only read the first few books of Castaneda’s.
also a pact isn't always good. also.not making one has its pros and cons also ... I have the feeling many successful people have made a pact of some form concius or unconscious . there is also the matrix theory about rituals is sort of an input code..to much theory that can keep you busy try to prove it .
Not that they would be able to explain or minimally understand the mechanics of what they are attempting, but essentially they are trying to "reinflate" and old intent bubble. A Mayan one from 1500 years ago. By re-establishing a connection to the particular IOB & realm that created it, via years of human interaction, in the first place.
But they're picking the equivalent of an old rundown 3x3 toolshed to "renovate," and then be stuck in.
I think they watched too many vampire movies 😏
yes again the eassy way out ... well there is no receipe to freedom if there was would be receipe dependand so its not freedom .
Since this is a misc. interesting ephemera post, here's something that was posted to Public Chat a few days ago:
[Tolteka17]
Is anybody aware here of the book 'Reality' by Peter Kingsley?
He talks about Parmenides in a way I've never seen before.
Apparently the Western "father of logic" was a sorcerer who practiced the ancient Greek equivalent to darkroom gazing: "incubation"
[TechnoMagical_Intent]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatromantis
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And from Practitioner Chat, on the subject of Judeo-Christian matters:
[danl999]
The jews were punished for worshipping false idols, and sent into slavery twice.
The first lot became europeans, at the end of a sword.
Constantine
Somehow calling themselves "christian" caused total amnesia, and history just wrote them away.
But tit's super easy to find them.
The Iberians were the most interesting.
Then there were the children of Cain, who you can also trace t hrough the geneologies in the bible, all the way to Rasputin, in Russia, who fulfilled a prophecy saying the royal family would be killed, and tossed into a lime pit to hide the bodies.
[username 1]
Something about a nomadic group that roamed what is now Ukraine, and instead of converting to Christianity, they adopted Judaism, and ‘blended’ in, and elbowed the sephardic jews out of the way.
[danl999]
he was part of the oldest cult in the world, the children of cain.
FAscinating stuff, until you realize the bible is full of shit, misrepresenting inorganic beings as demons and angels, and making up stories about them.
>Something about a nomadic group that roamed what is now Ukraine,
That would be the children of Cain.
They did that all over.
The most famous was when the jews were orderered to kill all the local tribes that had been infected with fallen angel blood.
[username 1]
Which bible books were a bad translation of ancient Ur? Wasn’t Abraham from Ur?
[danl999]
Two men were caught on the road, and prenteded to be travelers from a far, far away land.
[username 1]
Other books from Babylon
[danl999]
They ripped their clothes, bought moldy bread, and so the jews didn't kill them. They enslaved them in the church as servants. By the time of Jesus, they had completely replaced all the jews who ran the church.
It's fascinating.
Ur?
Also a fascinating part of the bible. There's some absolute magic going on in there.
Ur is part of it.
But look at this: Abraham took Isaac to the mountain to be a sacrifice. But God stopped him, and he saw a ram with it's head caught in the thorns. The ram became the susstittue sacrifice.
Jesus relived that tale. He had a crown of thorns, like the ram, and the mountain on which he was crucified, is less than a few miles from the mountain of Abraham.
Closer than that, it can't be pinpointed.
Might even be the very same spot.
However, Jesus went around exorcising demons from people, when in fact there are no demons.
He staged shows with schizophenics, who love attention and are happy to be "exorcised".
To cover his tracks, jesis explains they need to go study the bible, or they'll become posessed again.
Quite a con.
Fortunately, you can read what the jews wrote about their demons, and clearly see inorganic beings. They didn't exactly "lie", they just didn't explain much.
When you start to have supernatural experiences and want to write them down, you'll realize there are levels of "explaining", and if you are 100% upfront about "explaining everything", you kill the whole point.
Corey tried to do that in his notes on Carlos.
Techno throws up in his mouth a little each time he has to read those.
I did too.
Naturally, there's no law against magic in the bible. Just don't become a "witch".
But healers are fine, midwives, prophets even. The lead "prophet college" in the time of the kings, was run by a woman.
And the people who went to the desert for 40 years, eating locusts and honey, were doing magic. Nothing else.
They were using Qabalah sorcery, which is so close to ours, it can only be the false narratives that keep them from learning everything we know.
When they see a faint door, they don't know to go in there.
They keep trying to hang out watching God, the way Carlos did.
So if you want to be judeo/christian, it's fine.
Seems kind of pointless. Abramelin is true, but uses the delusions of the Jews that everything is about God, angels, and demons.
They can't see things as they are, due to a false narrative that's plagued the world since the book of Job.
So while you can easily get yourself a demon and an angel to teach you magic, you won't see it that way for more than a few appearances.
Which means Abramelin was either lying to make his book deal, or couldn't really do what he said. Most typical is what Milarepa did, seeing demons in hell, and never doing it often enough to realize his mistake.
Those could also have been kittens on a fluffy bed.
Probably this is only interesting to someone who can't do anything.
It's a "look what I found" post, with no regard for the confusion it can cause in beginners.
Sorcery is 100% about where you focus your attention.
This is not a good place to focus it.
And I kept this up, waiting to put the SPOILER tag on it, until that fact came to the surface.
u/Artivist on 2/25/2022:
"Darkroom practice reference in Indian mythologies?
From Mahabharata:
'A girl from Gandhara') is a prominent character in the Indian epic the Mahabharata. She was a princess of Gandhara and the wife of Dhritrashtra, the blind king of Hastinapura, and the mother of a hundred sons, the Kauravas, and a daughter. She always wore a blindfold in order to live like her husband
The epic tells the tale of what happens when Gandhari finally removes the blindfold. She does this twice in her life, once just before the war at Kuru-kshetra, and once only after. Both these stories come from folk retellings of the Mahabharata.
The sages said that after years of covering her eyes, the first thing Gandhari would gaze upon would become invulnerable to all weapons. Determined to save the life of her firstborn son, Duryodhana, Gandhari told him to appear before her naked. Duryodhana obeyed but covered his hips with a banana leaf out of modesty. So when Gandhari saw him for the first time, she wept. She could save him, but not entirely. She realised he would die as was fated, with a blow to the hips.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/a-leaders-gaze-determines-the-culture-of-the-organisation/articleshow/46210188.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst "