If you can stomach the force of it’s painful awkwardness, this short documentary blatantly portrays the need some have for attention and pretending.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, then this video is gold for calling out pretend sorcery.
Watch it on YouTube for subtitles.
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u/danl999
5 points2022-02-25 23:10
I was discovering more unknown things last night, with help from an inorganic being.
I wish I could remember!
One of the things I learned, completely agreed with some lines from Star Wars.
But it was a topic I had never thought about. Hadn't realized it yet.
And there it was, in Star Wars.
The one where Luke is on Yoda's world.
I started to wonder, if someone didn't just come up with that by naturally thinking about the consequences of "the force" and the Jedi?
Perhaps, once you have the idea from the books, if you try to turn it into a step by step storyline, maybe some stuff just becomes obvious.
That happens in computer design. Once you have a start, the design comes alive and creates the rest of the missing elements.
As if it could never have been any other way.
But who could be that intelligent, to start with some ideas from the books, and extrapolate it so far?
Even Carlos admitted, he wasn't smart enough to have invented all this.
Was Soledad sneaking around Hollywood, maybe with Benigno?
Wasn't he a master of intent?
Did Bruce have a hand in it?
But if there were old apprentices, or even Bruce, how did they become such close friends with the writers? After so many years, you'd think the writers would change, and decide to make it "even cooler".
(making it wrong).
And how come the writers haven't said anything about it? Like, "Guess what, we had help from a witch!"
It's a huge mystery to me.
But for a while I was on the trail of post don Juan riches. Accumulated by the lineage, and needing to be passed on or used up for the purpose of spreading sorcery.
"Money for Movies"?
The only thing I can think of is, one of the people in the lineage (which includes apprentices) was cyclic with one of the writers.
Or the death defier was.
So they just "body snatched" the writer. Maybe even temporarily.
Let's hope it was Josefina!
How much fun would that be?
As impossible as that sounds, Carol Tiggs implied the entire purpose of sorcery, was to get an "upgrade" to yourself from one of our cyclic beings who was a lot smarter than this copy.
I don't believe you'd feel snatched.
You'd just feel a whole lot smarter than you used to be.
Who'd object to that?
Darkroom automatically transforms you as you get to the orange zone.
It's inevitable.
The people around you also notice.
But they just figure you're "growing up" as a result of aging.
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u/wbeaty
3 points2022-02-26 03:42
Go to Yoda. He will teach you the ways of impeccability.
(The old Indian who is like a little child, wielding unsuspected power. But they hid the origin, by using a swamp instead of desert.)
Lucas (the writer) was obviously a huge fan of the books, if not a successful practitioner. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." He slightly disguised it by replacing a word. "Intent" became "The Force." Everything is Intent? Intent this, Intent that. Force, force, force, Force this, Force that. Intent binds the universe together. "The force" binds the galaxy together. And a powerful ALLY it is. "The force controls our actions, yet it obeys our will." Heh, next let me stir you up so you attract the attention of machine intelligences I mean inorganic beings who live outside the perceived world, where you get there by looking into a mirror covered with liquid. We'll teach you that we're all living in a false reality, and taught to become one of the few who can see the world as it actually is, which appears as a network of glowing green lines. Fight and defeat a dangerous inorganic sentience (uh, by leaping into its chest? Wha?)
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u/danl999
4 points2022-02-26 20:55
Rumor has it, Soledad was causing that sort of thing.
There was a famous meeting of the witches at Sony pictures, which got recorded by some followers. No detailed notes survived. I'm not clear on where this was learned, but it was known well before 1994.
Carlos joked about not wanting to make a don Juan movie, because he didn't want Anthony Quinn playing don Juan (a Fellini connection perhaps indicating Fellini was in line to make the movie).
And that gigantic fraud kachorka, or kachina, or whatever, was supposedly just some Mexican man who people commented looked like he could be don Juan, and a friend tried to promote that idea, when making a movie of the books seemed to be inevitable.
When he didn't get the part, I suppose they noticed they could instead trick people into thinking that actually WAS don Juan. So they created the idea that only the first 4 books were real, and those were taught by him, and then Carlos went greedy and wrote more.
We might have been attacked as many as 3 times by his henchmen. If you see a "used inventory salesman" in here, pretending to have sorcery knowledge, check out his history to see if you can find a connection to the fake don Juan.
They're totally clueless about the content of their inventory, indicating someone "stunted their growth" at the early books.
Until this subreddit, the fake don Juan could get away with it and no one could prove otherwise.
But seeing that all of the books are needed to make real magic work, kind of makes him look like the total fraud he is.
There's other Hollywood connections.
Ixtlan Productions. Bruce Wagner. Shirley MacLaine. Bruce Lee. Marshall Ho'o.
Everyone wanted to be close to Carlos.
But the most telling thing is the motto of Soledad, who was said by the witches to have come up here with other apprentices from the last generation.
Her motto was "Money for Movies".
I'm supposing the lineage would have accumulated a fortune in antiques and paintings, and had to get rid of it when don Juan left. We have an account of a single one of those antiques, in one of Taisha's books.
By the mid 90s, Carlos had an "art importing" business going on.
Cholita was called in for that, at least in part.
Where did they get the stuff? Possibly from the lineage, but then once they had understood how to move old art in LA, perhaps they kept it up.
Cholita used to go on missions to Mexico, to look for old rolled up paintings in churches and antique shops. Mexico is so old, there's plenty of fabulous paintings left around from the Spanish take over.
And rolled up old paintings in church basements, are very tempting to Monks. Cholita and some cash, could easily extract them.
Cholita was hot! I have a pic or two that proves it.
I'm still not convinced all of the "apprentices" from the last generation are dead.
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-02 01:09
As a former comic-store owner, I can highly recommend "RASL," where a military project basically gained access to all the Ixtlan parallel worlds via a Nikola Tesla device, no advanced-practice needed. The inventor is getting his rolled-up paintings not from here. (Towns get philadelphia-experimented. Powerful entities intervene.) hardcover version: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=rasl+graphic+-vol+-volume
Heh, fake up an old Royal typewriter so it prints phoneme-symbols rather than Western alphabet. Perhaps also mint (and age) some old-design pesos with impossible dates. See how high the bids on eBay become, after spreading the word in appropriate spots. Oops, now the scam just became impossible, because any search will discover this Reddit comment!
What other great CC scams can we short-circuit, by predicting their existence right here?
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u/danl999
3 points2022-03-02 15:42
None. It's mostly mental illness.
One in 10 from the general population may have some form of schizophrenia, and paranoid is the most common variety.
You have to think 1 in 5 in the Castaneda community, since it's such a bizarre topic.
Or as don Juan said, volunteers aren't welcome because most of those are cracked.
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-03 04:16
It's mostly mental illness.
That has to be me!
Because if not, then the built-up power from fairly small amounts of recap makes quite extreme, impossible events occur, and that unerringly proves my insanity right there. (Well, unless others also see those events. Then certain people at work all want to 'burn me as a witch,' not put me in a psych ward.)
I'm still not convinced all of the "apprentices" from the last generation are dead.
If the whole group successfully departs, how can they ever find this place again? Otherwise, isn't the 'maze' of similar worlds just too immense? Our one thin layer in the giant stack of near-congruous worlds? Maybe they all were emergency-migrating to a world where CC died decades later, rather than our own, where he died early. (If that's even how it works.)
I only posted because you mentioned the furniture. If I could go elsewhere on demand, rather than only by years of intention, or almost getting hit by a truck ...then the other worlds' trash is treasure here.
If I needed quick money, I'd be carrying furniture along with me, and running an antiques business. MUCH better to instead have spirit suddenly hand over $100K from an unexpected source, just out of the blue. (I've had that happen. But it just HAD to be random events, right? Not caused by built-up power, right? Or, it's just another of those set traps. Yoda insists: the Jedi, I-mean-the-impeccable warrior craves not these things. The money didn't benefit me personally, but instead was used to accomplish acts of impeccability.)
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u/danl999
3 points2022-03-03 17:19
If the whole group successfully departs, how can they ever find this place again?
I suspect if you search the "all in one" pdf for "not-being" and read around that, you'll realize, our double is stuck in this egg with our tonal, and our tonal screwed up and took birth in a human body.
With physical matter. So we got split into 2 beings.
When we have no choice but to die, or we decide to leave before then, our "double" steps out, and sucks the awareness that got trapped in the physical body, into itself.
It's a single being.
But now it has a problem. No "egg" to keep it in a limited range.
If it remains like that, it will disperse.
So it has to find a new shell.
Sorcerers figured out, you can share the earth's "egg".
The earth is simply a massive living being.
We can survive in there, until our sun expands 5 billion years later, and the shell of the earth is consumed by the red giant thus formed.
As for finding our way back after we leave, I suspect that's like trying to find your way back to kindergarten, because you really liked it there.
Even if you could figure out how, it no longer has the appeal.
As for "luck", to get money, I'd suggest you're screwed, because you don't get that, until you put in all the hard work, and no longer care.
But, it seems your a woman?
They can do that even before they actually learned much sorcery.
Cholita does it. I'm not sure why I've survived this long.
We have a battle with "pink flowers" going on right now.
It's not going well for me.
I could end up crushed by manure falling from a huge truck on the freeway, like that scene in Back to the Future, where shit keeps falling on the bad guy.
I'm not sure you can bring back solid objects from other worlds. Or if you can, they only last a short while.
Better to look carefully at them, for ideas we haven't had here yet.
Like screws. If you didn't have screws, just seeing one would be worth a lot of money on your world.
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-04 17:06
But, it seems your a woman?
They'll "burn you as a witch" too, if your defenses allow any of the seriously impossible events to be noticed by outsiders. Even though you're male like me (probably.)
Like screws
I find that my version of "silent knowledge" is full of such stuff. But I haven't seen anything as big as "the screw." Most inventions are too dangerous to mess around with. Money, it annoyingly appears when needed. Instead, do it for the giddy fun of it.
I KNOW I'm insane: possible teleportation to avoid certain death (nobody witnessed, so couldn't have happened.) Switching worlds by accident during extensive "vision questing" (very confusing. No evidence.) Apparently my clothes come with. Waking up next to a different wife (same body, completely different personality.) Obviously it's just carbon monoxide poisoning! "Pretending" run wild. Self diagnosed, self-prescribe more loss-of-SI to end the problem. CC books come closest with many stories of "insanity which leaves solid evidence," and a Western human getting access to their submerged half, which can occasionally perform miracles on demand. If my self-importance was far lower, there'd be no problem. The DJM/CC line offers a genius recipe ...it actually seems to work. If the events I intentionally attracted had instead happened to someone spontaneously, without preparation, they'd probably end up in some mental ward.
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u/danl999
2 points2022-03-04 17:16
Drunk today?
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-04 19:13
Nope. I'm functioning slightly in heightened-awareness, wakefulness 'round the clock, answering Quora science questions with book-length postings.
I was curious to see whether my last one here would even post? ...Or instead I'd come back and find that, because letting others see that material had been "unwise," therefore my hand had deleted it without my conscious permission. My mouse hit "cancel" when I tried to hit "save?"
Nope, it did actually post.
Instead, I'm leaving each posting up for a certain few minutes at a certain time of day, then removing it again. Yep,appears to have worked as predicted, personal msg was somehow delivered to intended recipient(s) only.
My posting length makes people nervous, nah, I just type fast, like talking. Because online since 1989, so lots of practice.
Also, recently I keep coming back to the idea... if recap and occasional mental silence has these absolutely stunning results, I wonder what learning the Passes would do. Have here vol 1 of cleargreen "jazzercize" VHS tape, never watched. Dig out the vhs machine. Did it ever end up on youtube? Yep, at least the Chacmool version, vol 1.
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-04 19:43
I often get sucked into Quora by an email.
Like, "Did NASA find aliens on mars?"
Always gets me to look.
I only went there once because something got posted here, but they are VERY aggressive about ads by email.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-04 20:10
Hm, I've never seen one. Maybe Quora profile lets them be turned off. Or did I spam-bucket all quora mail during dim prehistory?
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-04 20:23
I get almost one a day.
And all I did was reply once to a question someone pointed out over there.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-05 00:15
Aha, I do receive those after all ...only at my Gmail addr, which I rarely use.
Got "Opted in," so while logged in, go to https://www.quora.com/settings/notifications, and try turning everything off. Heh, when the force is strong, Quora spam gets spontaneously deflected from Any True Jedi. But only if they possess the correct color of desert robe (also it must be heavy and very itchy, to continuously subject oneself to Pain and Adversity ...or was that only the fake Klingons? )
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-05 17:05
Ok, you're weird...
good!
Just be a hard working weird guy so there's some actual magic going on eventually.
Get a real poltergeist for example.
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-07 20:08
Get a real poltergeist
Or get rid of it (vanishing objects perhaps once per month, even right out of my hand. Annoying for years.)
Now when I'm fully "on," rather than having dropped objects occasionally wink out, instead a dropped object will land in my other hand, land at my feet wo/bouncing, or perhaps bounce so I can grab it out of the air. Extreme anomalous "luck," Murphy's law is reversed, and as you said, toss things towards the wastebasket and they always hit. But that becomes yet another event that co-workers see, and comment about. It all started up after major recap. (I strongly suggest that people actually do extensive recap! Or at least, do all your major life events. The results are completely obvious, even stunning. But that's just me, since I've had some sort of ultra-luck thing going on since childhood. I call it "Feynman-luck," since I notice that Richard Feynman had something similar.)
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-07 21:48
Typical 'magic,' used to communicate with others:
I'll post something, intending that they read it, and, by pure coincidence, they'll stumble across it. Then I'll delete the posting. For non-sham practitioners, this can work within minutes. Just by pure luck, they'll happen to be online and looking at just the right place, and see my message appear. Others, if they even see it, will later find that it had "un-happened."
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-07 22:22
My experience is, there's absolutely nothing but pretending out there.
I've looked all over.
There's certainly no magic on reddit in any of the usual places.
Just mental masturbation.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-08 05:29
As expected!
There could be many DJMs out there, piles of advanced practitioners. High-level practitioners maintain disguise. Will we even encounter a single one, if we haven't personally "gone enough invisible" (become seriously Unimportant.) Don't forget, CC was supposed to serve as a sort of "failure." If DJM was right, spirit brought CC in to snip off the DJM line. An ending. No restart mentioned. Otherwise, the line would continue, and all that info would remain invisible, exclusively within that small group of "guerrilla-fighters operating unseen within enemy territory."
Also, chasing after magic? Spirit doesn't take volunteers. A long-time Carlos-groupie might learn quite a number of techniques, but their utter lack of "stratospheric personal integrity" will screw them up, sooner or later.
Me, I abandoned CC in the late 70s (edit: oops, it was actually in the mid-80s.) Got married, had a kid. Then in 1993, spirit came barging in, dragged me kicking and screaming into another world (I'd defeated a pair of petty dictators in our small startup corp. It flung me once again into that bizarre "accelerated living" state.) Did I just achieve Heightened Awareness through battling powerful PDs, while inadvertently stalking myself in order to maintain utterly perfect Personal Integrity for several months continuously?!
I dunno!
:)
Normalcy fled. I was living in a stream of bizarre synchronicities, where even the people at work occasionally saw them occur, making comments. I had to intentionally give it up, damp it down ...still I had that wife/child/normalcy thing going on. Suppressing my "accelerated" state of awareness took weeks to accomplish.
(Advice to the unwary: spirit apparently responds to catch-and-release courtship ploys! Chase after, and make lots of progress ...then just walk away, to never return, honestly assuming it's permanent. Somehow, this "draws attention." But it involves a time-scale of decades. That's the "unbending intent" ?)
If true, then the opposite of this ...that reveals the trick for living a nice, sane, normal human life without CC-type phenomena intruding. Just perpetually keep up the chase to find magic, "volunteering" constantly. That keeps the magic away.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-03-08 12:58
I encountered three IOB’s, together at a Native American petroglyphs site, about 20 years ago in the daytime (could have been one IOB projecting as three people).
They’re bizarre and out of character behavior is one of the ways that they clue you in that they’re not people. Or rather not humans.
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-08 15:54
I believe some in private classes saw stuff too, without the skill they should have needed to do that.
Carlos didn't give them hell over it. Seemed to endorse that maybe that was in fact possible.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-03-08 16:07
I think it’s Intent’s way, in partnership with the IOB’s, of making an initial breach of the barrier between our attentions.
I remember it was written in the books that regular people actually have more paranormal type stuff happen to them in the daytime (or during waking hours) without intentionally beckoning that, than neophyte sorcerers do.
“The Spirit reveals itself to everyone equally,” is how it was stated as I recall.
Once we start luring Intent/The Spirit directly, that relationship changes.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-09 02:09
When I was a Normal American (edit: back before 1980,) I'd have experiences that I'd only remember for hours. Then they'd be gone. I didn't realize this was happening until ...start keeping a journal, write down weird experiences immediately. This breaches your filters: that "built-in memory-editor" carried by all of Western Mankind. Without a journal, weird or inexplicable memories invariably are un-happened, much like waking from a dream. Even innocuous slightly-weird stuff will vanish. (Get a bit of it back via recap. Are all the CC folks aware of the "writing-down" trick? Even complete noobs can employ this 'magic.' Some already know: it's just dream-journalling. What noobs won't accept is that ordinary waking existence is just another dream, and their fixed position will "sanitize" experiences within minutes, unless we get it down on paper within seconds.)
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u/test_r
3 points2022-08-07 13:50
danl999 trick is to give "thumbs up" (like a gesture from the japanese Death Stranding game) when things like that happen, to give them shared context and recall all the others when new one happens, reinforcing.
Doing even a couple hours of silence (really maybe minutes of actual deep silence, more efficient in dark room fishing puffs..) many weird things start happening or being noticed, if don't flag or "thumbs up" them it is almost impossible to recall even in the next hour.
The day when found the first darkroom post of danl999 some time ago, had some sort of a falcon/eagle parch right outside the window, didn't even know there were such birds in this area and height.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-09 02:20
The apparent IOBs delivered a very specific warning. (I suspect that when humans start working on particular ideas, where, in the future, those inventions are actually important, it attracts "outside attention."
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-09 17:38
You've been eating too many Archon chips.
Try the lighter "Tokai" rice variety.
Or as I like to warn Cholita, if the web page uses the red and yellow huge letter fonts, maybe don't stay there too long.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-09 23:28
But then I couldn't announce to everyone at work that I'd met the real Santa Claus. And his leetle elf helper Nikki. (Joking.)
Following the path into white-people's curandero tricks: cancer-cure project based on strange electronics, devices to cure countries' oil-addiction rather than curing individual alcoholics ...the elegant maneuver is to accomplish such things unobserved, without inflating self-importance to book-author proportions.
Heh, if ancient toltecs had IOBs up the wazoo, (a huge mistake to pursue, as is done here!) well, no entity ever provided clues about magical mixture Chinese longevity-drug today called "gunpowder." Or the trick to making steel swords. A really fun world-branch would be the one where the Olmecs had screws, and also fireworks, thousands of years before China. Conquistadores land in Mexico ...only to be confronted with precolumbian cannon. That's some "magic techniques" that the ancient seers DON'T learn about, if only taking instruction from IOBs. The IOBs don't have our best interests at heart.
Aleister Crowley: titanic loser. What he required four decades to do (and failed,) CC practitioners do in half an hour.
But Crowley gives us some important loser-wisdom. Beware of IOBs. They may be analogous to the infamous "alchemy gold-recipes," with bad-player IOBs present on purpose, to trap anyone who, willy-nilly, simply accepts everything they'll teach us. Trusting IOBs without good cause is a recipe for disaster, it can gradually remove all our impeccability, gradually turn us into classic trolls/Petty Dictators. It's a predatory world, and IOBs invariably have their own interests at heart. Not necessarily our own.
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u/danl999
1 points2022-03-10 00:17
Aleister Crowley
He couldn't do anything. Just a showman.
A bad one too.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-10 03:47
Agreed. Dope fiend, morphia addict, died "encysted" (when searching for a genuine healer, first carefully observe their maladies.) And as he said, anyone can attract attention of entities and get them talking, (especially if Crowley's best accomplishments stop at finding cheap drug dealers.) His church is still spreading, my daughter says there's one in Seattle. Must be their nude Sunday-services.
Aleister Crowley's stand-up act: "Two passengers are sharing a railway carriage. One notices that the other has a box with holes in it, of the sort used to transport animals, and asks what animal his companion is carrying. “A mongoose,” says the other. The first passenger naturally asks why this eccentric chap want[s] to transport a mongoose around England.
“It’s because of my brother,” says the second man. “You see, he drinks perhaps more than is good for him, and sometimes he sees snakes. The mongoose is to kill the snakes.”
“But those are bleeding imaginary snakes,” says the first man.
“That’s as may be,” says the other placidly, opening the box which proves to be empty. “But this is an imaginary mongoose.” (Aleister Crowley ...not a successful comedian. Instead maybe shoulda filled his personal heroin syringes from totally empty bottle, carefully shipped from Afgan poppy-growers at great expense. )
BTW, in my version of "impeccability," I refuse to use fake online ID. So, if anyone wants to kick me out of any forum, it's permanent, unless they reverse the ban. (And I still can't find the DJM quote "don't tell lies to protect yourself, if you have to lie, just lie for the sheer hell of it." Or something similar. I think it reveals one of the lines most powerful techniques. But we'd never discover this, unless first attempting to tell no lies at all, for entire years. Quickly one finds that normal modern life is held in existence by a solid immobile structure composed of egregious lying.)
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u/danl999
2 points2022-03-10 13:00
You don't belong in this subreddit. You aren't interested in learning at all, and seem to want attention more than anything else. Also you don't seem to realize this is the only place on the net with real magic, so you also don't value it, and are willing to see it die to get what you want.
How many like you could this place survive if we didn't police it?
Just a few.
How come you're so special, you should be allowed to do what would destroy this place?
Seems like scizophrenia to me, and everyone in here hopes schizophrenia can end up being a dreaming talent, like it is for Cholita.
But Cholita doesn't go around pretending Crowley has magic.
I'm also worried you could simply be another of the kachora guy's tricks.
Maybe you should go to the thelma subreddit? There's really nothing for you in here.
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u/wbeaty
2 points2022-03-10 15:43
My recent learning is in reading your stuff (faq and its links.) The material is pretty clear, so no questions needed. But for decades I've only been a dabbler in silence, no Tensegrity work at all, obviously. That's not where my own power originates.
"Destroy this place" by posting so deep in a thread that nobody but you will ever see? Then my deleting most postings? Really? How does that even make any sense?
Or is it because I'm pointing to all the petty behavior? (I'm only a preschooler, or perhaps only an infant ...but one who has some skill in seeing right through the self-important "kindergartners." )
get what you want.
What I want is to remain invisible, except to the PDs I engage with. (for onlookers ...PD= petty dictators.) Being here for more than minutes is very unusual for me, a brief episode never repeated. I'm now starting to suspect why I've arrived.
There's really nothing for you in here.
Obviously. (edit for clarity) The behavior of those running this subreddit doesn't match the material in the books.
We're supposed to accumulate impeccability, not turn ourselves into self-important authority-figures. Also, courting IOBs is something DJM warned against, it's for the Ancient Practitioners only, and it destroyed them (via important inventions no IOB would ever give them ...the Spanish gunpowder, Spanish steel.) Today IOBs certainly provide entertainment and companionship. But count me out, I'm not interested. And at the same time, in this forum we have SI (self-importance) running rampant. Tolerating a lightly-concealed petty dictator? One acting as a mod here, sucking in hoards of trolls from everywhere, and then he loses every battle? [1]
I suspect that isn't really something that the books would recommend.
What the books teach, I've found works, like gangbusters, if pursued long enough (and if spirit decides to drag you kicking and screaming onto the Toltec path.) And their teacher DJM has the child-like "beginners mind," and crazy sense of humor, which in this subreddit seems replaced by ...utter SI. (The trouble with Petty Dictators is that they never know that they've turned into one, and it could happen to the best of us. The direct path to becoming one is to fight them, and lose. When engaging trolls, each loss tends to add another "layer of Petty Dictator" to ourselves. )
Banning a troll is a lost battle, a profoundly petty act of a desperate mod, one who lacks the extreme Toltec defenses provided by Impeccability. I banned one troll decades ago, never another in my life. As a moderator for three decades in a troll-ridden forum, I've been using them as opponents, the "precious commodity," sometimes turning them into good people. Amazing when it works.
Summing up, the CC skills, applied to trolls, ratchets up our own personal integrity to stratospheric levels, plus, it benefits the troll. But if we instead fight them, we slowly become one of them (and then, like magic, our Intent to fight them attracts more of them, coming in from everywhere, drawn like flies. Ban one troll, and two more appear. CC practitioners employing moderator's-power is a losing strategy. )
The key to defeating trolls is to know, at an utterly deep level, that all of us are as alike as bacteria. Anyone thinking they're "special," that they somehow lack a huge streak of competitive pettiness, will never prevail in a battle against the lowliest troll, much less actually heal one of them.
A simple countermove against a stream of trolls is to provide them with their own secondary forum, a no-rules, un-policed version of the main forum. This stops them from changing their IDs and returning, and tends to keep them where you can watch them. Rather than banning a troll, temporarily move each one to "forum-2" unless they promise to behave. (On Reddit we cannot force-subscribe people. So, for example, you'd first tell the troll to subscribe to the secondary, "no rules here" version of Castaneda. Then delete them from the main one.) Also, the existence of a no-rules version of a forum tends to end all complaints about stringent policing, since users who object to the tight rules can just subscribe to the unmoderated version. And, no troll can ever again complain about "being silenced." Heh, a master of Silence perceives how to employ it as an elegant countermove in troll-battles.
I'm also worried you could simply be another of the kachora guy's tricks.
So, you cannot rv opponents? Can't see through me, even a little? I can rv, a little. I specialize in all the self-blind people online, the internet trolls; the online facet of the petty dictator. They're my central expertise, and the source of whatever bit of impeccable stance I've accumulated. First, spend much time to perceive their structure (employing a simple trick many moderators know.) Then something inside me eventually decides to poke them in their most sensitive spot. Deliver a light blow, and see them freakin' EXPLODE. That's the first stage in the troll-healing process ...if they don't just flee (or, if they're currently busy "being my boss:" ...acting as concealed petty dictators moderating various forums ...in that case they'll angrily, confidently kick me out. They HAVE to do this. I'm a major threat to their exalted stature, and as some deep level they realize this. The majority of trolls avoid healing like the plague! )
kachora
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With enough experience, we all end up as "tricks from Intent," suddenly arriving at online locations for unknown reasons.
Why ** AM ** I here right now? It's still not clear. Maybe it's to provide you some info on battling your constant stream of reddit trolls? Your Intent is attracting them. If you don't cut it out, you yourself will destroy this subreddit, by overwhelming it with hoards of the 'unworthy opponents' you're silently calling. (But no, apparently that's not why I'm here. It's something else...)
Normally I'm solitary, nobody knows my cc practice. I'm dropping my guard here, posting deep in these threads where the outside world won't notice, where it's easy to vanish again. (Note this useful skill, and it's even easily taught, using words not AP-shifts. Don't communicate via PMs which persist forever. Instead use postings which only exist briefly until the recipient has read them ...because afterwards, you come back and always edit them into something innocuous.)
As I already said, my online ID is my real name. So you refuse to believe that? Sheesh, google is right there. OK ...here's my grade-school physics-education website, been here since 1993: http://amasci.com This is me: http://amasci.com/billb.html If you want to know how electricity actually works, see http://amasci.com/ele-edu.html, most information not in any book, instead learned from an impossible source.
Uh, read it again, you strangely missed everything!
Crowley will lead his people to a sad heroin death, plus some spiritual practices on the same level as amateur Buddhism. Plus taking off clothes, while licking swords. (What I know of Crowley, I learned entirely from comic books.) But at least HE had a sense of humor, something utterly lacking in the petty tyrants. What's the opposite of the Toltec path-with-Heart? The Aztec path-with-hearts! How many Aleister Crowleys does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Hope you find again the upwards path. The one you're currently on leads to "...interesting" results.
Goodbye.
(edit: I Unsubscribed, intending to check back here in a year or two. Note also that I made small additions to the above, to clarify the obvious misperceptions, see danl999's response..)
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[1] Banning a troll is an act fraught with pettiness.
Attacking weak enemies from behind an immense barrier? For any CC practitioner that's clear evidence of profound cowardice. (No, this is not about me. As I said, don't un-ban me, it won't work. But appropriate apologies would be an act of integrity. Admitting and taking responsibility for mistakes. )
I first figured out this cowardice issue about thirty years ago, in a moderated email list. Dealing with petty dictators can either destroy us, or instead it can amplify us. Winning against flagrant PDs does NOT involve quietly silencing them without warning, while remaining concealed behind moderator-privilege. That's like defeating kindergarteners while driving a tank! (And carefully driving it in darkness only, to prevent any complaints from witnesses. Another cowardly act.) I quickly discovered that, the one time I tried banning a bad-actor, it diminished me, and significantly. So I never repeated it. Instead I developed a set of countermoves which diminished the trolls while increasing my own integrity. (But how can one defeat a troll, without being a moderator? Accomplished warriors shouldn't even be asking that. ) If you're a CC practitioner, never ban a troll, ever. Better still, never become a moderator in the first place, it's a corrupting influence only avoided by the most advanced among us. Hm. Carlos himself seems to have died from this, after losing a number of troll-style battles, which removed his own defenses against the those hoards of malicious groupies, to say nothing of accomplished opponents. Instead he started relying on the chacmools to do it all for him. If that's how it went, then that's not normal, instead that's the signature of a defeated sorcerer, with impeccability zeroed-out. (The "fled mind?" Given enough petty behavior, it comes back!) Sure, we should all learn from CC, but never try to be CC.
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u/danl999
2 points2022-03-10 19:25
This stuff is a precise match of what's in the books.
Shame on you!
Please go away.
We don't need self-promoters who don't care what they destroy, to get what they want.
We get 3 a week like that, plus probably another 10 who don't have an obsessive need to comment to get attention, as you do.
But we can't say he wasn't a very successful bad player.
At least equal to a Miguel Ruiz, plus perhaps half of a Ken Eagle Feather.
But watch the sparks fly if you go into one of the Magick subreddits and say that.
Mental illness is common in the magic community. Including stuff like Buddhism.
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u/test_r
1 points2022-08-07 15:28
If going for ability to interact with the world using "borrowed" resource taken from a mobile-resource accumulating entities - women, banks, scholars, governments, generalize to entities that accumulate any mobile charge - conductors.
From perspective of voltage potential source, conductor is mostly evil, trying to entrap and not having best interests in mind (doesn't mind making a short circuit and converting accumulated potential difference into heat!), even though there are certain areas of electric circuitry that are virtually impossible to enter without using conductors. Every conductor is unreal and undefined, you can try to interact with them as if they were real, "understood", defined by secondary information you have read, heard or seen about what they should be (and them even trying to conform to those expectations to ease interaction with you!), but the reality is that conductors are very powerful, alien and undefinable.
In this case, consider a metal conductor to be a form of an iob, "living" a very long "life", being infinitely knowledgeable about detailed ways of using your voltage source, but also limited in it's insight to it's specific view of the world, although possibly minimally cognizant of all other conductors in the world through weak EM interaction (like all masses are minimally cognizant and pulled by all other masses).
Holder of potential has ability to learn about and use different types of conductors in different ways, or ignore their existence and only conduct through air requiring much higher effort and energy and unable to accomplish fine-grained tasks as details get immediately charred by the high-voltage discharge.
Not that all iobs are perfect conductors, some are better at specific applications and frequencies and worse at other.
If scholars are conductors of knowledge-bits, some commenters may be high-impedance scholars that are not yet usable for the levels of potential achieved, and might be usable at later stages.
Defining things creates the immediately-high-voltage conductive "surface" at the created discontinuity, morphed into insulating layer that potential users can interface with. By redeploying energy inside the surface layer is also modified (pulled/pushed from within), revealing more interfaces and perception potentials for and with external entities.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-09 02:01
At the Subway shop, one "costumed weirdo" had all the features of Santa Claus (but not the red fur coat.) The other was short, skinny, apparently crippled, and lugging a "walking stick" that was basically a chainsaw-carved telephone-pole.
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u/nfowler1
1 points2022-03-05 01:27
nah, I just type fast, like talking. Because online since 1989, so lots of practice.)
I'm curious to know what your typing speed is, if you don't mind me asking?
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-07 19:17
I've never tested. What's normal? Let's see. For transcribing somebody's stuff from the screen (which slows me down somewhat,) quick test say's it's 60WPM (but it would NOT let me type with typos. Effin' thing. Fixing errors cut my speed way back. I care nothing for typos while typing, going back and fixing them afterwards. If I'm forced to type without typos, that applies the brakes.
The average tends to be around 35 wpm. But, I learned touch typing through a game when I was a kid so can type at around 85 wpm usually and if I really put some effort I can hover around 100 wpm.
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-07 21:55
In high school typing class I was at 30wpm. Transcribing is significantly different than posting a thought-stream. I doubt I'd get to 100wpm though. I guess I can use msWord, then "speak" via keyboard for exactly one min, then check the Word stats, char and word count. (And not cheat: include the time needed to go back and correct the mispels.)
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u/nfowler1
1 points2022-03-05 01:28
if recap and occasional mental silence has these results
How often are you doing the recaps and forcing silence?
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u/wbeaty
1 points2022-03-07 20:26
Walking around forcing silence daily, but only bursts of ~5min. I haven't dedicated serious time to it. So, sometimes rarely, as much as 1hr, in the light, w/eyes open (but it eventually brings an immense flood of ideas for articles and inventions, odd insights, eventually one of these will be so major that I have to break silence and write it down, before it evaporates like a dream, which they typically do.) My own power comes from another source.
Today I'll recap after any slightly disturbing event. Over the years, exact same events will no longer disturb.
I did do a couple years of few-hours-per week recaps as part of "EMDR" with a trauma therapist (didn't arrive for the therapy, instead using the therapist as an assistant for CC recap, but only of numerous major life events, not full-life reverse-recap like we're supposed to perform, I've yet to do that.) From stunning results I've attained, full recap doesn't seem necessary. Not only my perceptions were altered, instead the world itself changes, and never changes back.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2022-02-26 04:35
As sad as that video is, being exemplar of certain demographics insipid need for validation, it still shows how desperate people are to escape (even if it's a fantasy) the prison that is the mainstream human domain.
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u/danl999
4 points2022-02-26 12:16
The Horrors of Pretending
I'm tempted to make an actual post on this subject, but doing it right would be a lot of work.
It turns out, I'd already gotten a lesson on this topic in the last couple of weeks, but I hadn't understood it.
And even more bizarrely, there was a brilliant lesson on this in the books. But no one understood it, so we don't ever discuss it.
And I'd have to go into the books and study it, in order to point out the lesson well.
So I'll just do a crummy job, and hopefully the pretenders among our audience, won't use it to do more damage.
Maybe what I need is just what's in the title to this post. To shame the pretenders.
But pretenders are also trolls, so no amount of reasoning back and forth, will stop them from their pretending. That's their idea of "working hard". Not actually working hard to learn, but working hard at pretending, which means being a troll when necessary.
A troll can't be reasoned with. If you point out a flaw in their thinking, or even a lie, they ignore it, and come up with 2 more, to keep you from "winning".
So possibly a cartoon character could be used to shame them? A parrot with a rambo shaman's headband, running around saying, "Impeccable Warrior!!!" Or "Mental Mastubator!" Or, "Black Dot of Death".
A mix of early book stuff they don't understand at all, and don't realize was the example of the men of knowledge, who never learned to see. Or criticism that Carlos used, like "mental masturbator", that they've redefined to protect pretending. As a form of pretend authority, to engage in more troll behavior.
Such a simplistic "bad mascot", could be added to pictures protect an important piece of information the bad players are sure to pick up on, and weaken.
"Shaman Parrot"?
In each picture, the lower right could show what "Shaman Parrot" got out of it, which would be pure pretending to get attention.
Here's Lily's lesson on why pretending is death to sorcery. I suppose she gave me this lesson because of the usual reason they give you a lesson. They pick up on it in your mind. Sometimes they pick up on your worries, and take that as a question, and answer it.
But no one told you that was what was up, so you can't easily figure it out at the time.
I guess it's equivalent to an adult seeing a kid fascinated by an object in an antique store, and so that adult starts pointing out similiar things elsewhere, giving teaching lessons on that topic. But the kid is too young to pick up why those lessons started coming. It's 2 unrelated events in the mind of a child.
Lily's lesson was amazing, but I'll have to translate it into a simple idea.
We search for a new position of the assemblage point along the J curve by using our senses.
But we test the position by using our body.
Searching is easier with the eyes, but you can search with any sense. Touch isn't too hard to understand. Look for cobwebs.
But smell can move the assemblage point along the J curve also.
"Why" is something you have to discover yourself, it can't be explained. But, possibly it just means, "searching for a new position" is merely looking at weaker collections of emanations that have awareness.
When you detect some, the assemblage point moves along the J curve to enhance those. Or "center around them" a bit.
In the middle of the J curve (not shifted horizontally), we get the "best view overall" of that level.
But emanations at that given level, might be strongest if the assemblage point moved left or right from there.
Which essentially means, it won't feel "real" until you make the signal stronger.
Weak signals can be generated by multiple sources, which includes pretending. Pretending is an attempt to start a phantom element.
So very good information on new techniques, can be destroyed by pretending. You can contaminate other people, and cause them to be unable to "tune in" a specific obscure bunch of glowing emanations.
It's the same reason you can discover something super magical and cool, but the next day your expectations to do that again, override your ability.
The expectations are tainted with pretending.
It's almost like that shaman parrot is so stupid, he sees only the surface appearance. And because all he wants is attention, he starts shouting his poor understanding, in order to try to cash in on anything "new". It's no fun sharing "old news". So he flocks to anything new, and tries to turn it into something he can claim came from him.
He might turn instructions for how to shift the assemblage point into the IOB world, as "Red Cave! Red Cave!!! Red Cave!!!!"
Unfortunately, the IOB realm often resembles a cave, but thinking about it in those concrete terms is "off" enough, that you'll invoke our ability to create phantom skimmings, and that will override any good info on how to accomplish that shift.
This is tricky to explain, better to see it with your own eyes.
So humans can search, to move along the middle of the J curve. We do that, by looking for the puffs.
And then they can fine tune the horizontal positoin by "playing with it".
"Make it real", or just behave as if it were real. Tensegrity tends to do that.
That could be as simple as pretending a purple puff can be stretched, and trying to do that. It causes a profound horizontal shift, to make that "real".
But we can end up in obscure situations where it's not possible to make that real, because you aren't comprehending enough at that position, to have any good way to do that.
So we can skim unrelated emanations to create a phantom object or phantom "accessory" so that the situation is more real. Because there isn't enough real eneergy coming from what you are preceiving, we fill it in with phantom objects.
That's how ordinary dreams work.
I should mention, a false narrative, such as fill asian magical systems, is a phantom object. More pretending. So trying to learn sorcery using Buddhism, is like trying to learn from a pretender.
You can't learn sorcery from the fake Carlos (aka colorado carlos), or the fake Don Juan (aka kachorka or whatever), or the the fake replacement for Carlos (aka Ken Eagle feather).
Three human abilities affect the positoin your assemblage point moves to.
Maybe there's more (there are and I've seen them), but those 3 clearly show the problem with pretending.
(more = power spots, power plants, IOBs, the abstract, adjacent bands of emanations, other people sharing the view, and so on).
Pretending is designed to add "cozy". But "cozy" might be incompatible with what's really being perceived. That can cause the assemblage point to readjust, using the phantom more than the thing perceived (the real).
Phantom can override real. And phantom is created by our wishes, not by what's there.
At the top by the blue line, it ends up just being a vicious circle in the mind, so it's not as obvious that this is "dark magic".
Dark magic is to combine a piece of the real, with phantom elements, to create a new, stable object.
Which is a lie, but can still impinge on other beings.
It's "evil"!
What fun... Usually if you see me say something you can do is "evil", that's mostly why. "High Phantom Content, mixed with some Real to make it stable."
But deep in the red zone, those 3 abilities are very clear, because the effect is drastic. You can't teach this to a beginner because the green and blue aren't vivid enough, and are subject to full override by phantom elements.
Might be possible to design an exercise in the shift below region, so people could play with those 3 a bit, to learn what they "feel like".
Practical examples?
Play with what you see!
If you see lines on a whitish light on the walls, use your hand to "smooth" the lines out. Or use your fingers to "Pluck" those lines.
It's why you can use, "the wall". That's the whitish light landing on a surface, even an imagineary one, or even our palm, so that you have it in focus, and can "play with it".
I like to wiggle my fingers on a surface within reach, until it retunes the assemblage point to create sparkles. Then I can treat the sparkles as an object, stick my fingers inside the middle, and pull it open. As if it were a hole in space, which can be stretched open to make a window or doorway.
That reskims or fine tunes the assemblage ;oint, so that you can "look inside".
That moves the assemblage point again. Being both a "search", and also an attempt to use it as if it were real, you can end up seeing an entrance to another world.
Or a cartoon like video.
Or something phantom can be created, such as a magical goblet covered in jewels.
That can "fall out".
All three effects can be used, on "the wall".
But Shaman Parrot is too stupid to understand, so he'll just way, "Wiggle Fingers! Wiggle Fingers!! Wiggle Fingers!!!"
And destroy that valuable lesson. Pretty soon you'll have a whole crowd of fake sorcerers wiggling their fingers to "alter reality".
We really need to find a way to eject those guys faster, or shame them to suppress that behavior because they realize it won't get them attention, it will get them ridicule.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-27 04:10
Darn. Got another "too much information" continuous seeing lesson on this topic.
I had it a bit wrong. Pretending falls into intending. It's a special category, but it's still intending.
The three forces to move yhour assemblage point very well in darkroom (besides outside ones like power spots, allies, caves, andd so on) are seeing, doing, and intending.
Tensegrity is designed with all 3 in mind.
Only a darkroom gazer would have noticed it at this point.
Seeing, because you are looking for anything cool in the darkness.
Seeing = using your senses, and not restricted to sight.
Doing, because the tensegrity passes move our body through what you are seeing.
Scooping puffs is a prime example. It's the "doing" of puffs. That you can play with them like little clouds of light that can be moved around.
But many more types of doings are possible. You can sing to them, as if they will responds. You can blow into them, as if they are storage containers for your breath energy.
The category of doing is VAST and subtle. A full on sorcerer needs only the tiniest gesture, to have a very strong "doing".
Keep in mind, the doings are all not-doings, because they're being done on something that isn't really there. Or you could say, because they're totally nuts. But you do them anyway.
Doings are merely not-doings that have come into style. If you take away all of the doings, the dark sea will go empty. No awareness in it.
And there's no longer any McDonalds. It just doesn't exist anymore.
We tend to like our McDonalds, so we think of it as "real", and unaffected by sorcery. But in fact, even solidity is a doing.
So in the dark room we gaze around, trying to see cool stuff. Sometimes we see a bunch of cool stuff, andd we tend to call it the "second attention fog". Or dreaming fog.
Fog implies, there's lots of tiny things to see in it. Even particle size is fine. Or smooth too. Smooth just becomes a large thing to see, like a surface.
Doing comes in next if you want to move your assemblage point to a useful X,Y point in space. Y is moving along the J curve, X is horizontal.
Seeing selects the Y point (how amazing the puffs are, for example).
Doing selects the X movement. Where horizontally, the thing you try to "do" with the puffs, is most vivid.
Again, the doing can merely be blowing into a puff.
Then comes intending.
What's the result? You saw something, you did something to it, now what happened as a result?
That's where you "recognize" that something did happen.
But what? Lowest level, you saw a vague little sparkle in the darkness, not really even anything worth mentioning, but you stuck your fingers in it, and wiggled them.
Or you blew into it.
You "did" something to it.
It gets brighter? yea, but you have to "recognize" that. It really didn't get brighter any more than it started to spin. Or it floated away and disappeared.
I suppose it might actually do something by itself, as in the casee of it was an inorganic being manifestation that was very dim. Then the doing adds energy, and the IOB can do something by itself.
But if it was just some sparkles, the most likely thing is, the sparkles got brighter.
Seeing vague sparkles, wiggling your fingers in it, gives rise to more seeing. Seeing that was "slightly" intended. You assumeed it would get brighter.
That's iteration #1.
Or, a single run of Pandora's Box pass! All this is contained in Parnora's Box.
So do iteration #2. you saw in #1, you wiggled, then you intended it got brighter.
Your seeing a brighter disturbance.
Blow into it. That's doing #2.
Intending #2 is that it got clumpy. It's a brither sparkle than you started with, but now it cracked all over, and you can visible see a larger crack in the middle.
Iteration #3 (and you'll be gone after that one!).
You see a cracked flurry of twinkles in the air.
You reach into the crack with your fingers, and with great effort (go slow), you rip the crack wider, and then finally pull it open. You pull it wide enough to zip through the hole, if you could fly.
Iteration #3 is done, and you have a portal.
You start iteration #4, but yhou never get to finish.
You gaze inside the portal to see, blank out, and slowly notice you are in another world and have been for a few seconds. Probably since you tried to gaze into the portal.
But what's in there? You saw, that activated a doing all by itself, and now is the intending part.
There's a woman sitting next to you, and she's speaking.
And it's real. No longer dark at all.
It seems that seeing gives rise to an idea of what can be "done".
Seeing leads to doing, and then intending arises when you expect a result.
But once you transfer though the portal, you see that things are now reversed.
It's the intending that caused the doing and seeing.
But I'm afraid I lost why that's so before I could type this.
I'll go back and look again.
But I missed one observation.
Tensegrity contains the seeing part when done in the dark, because you look for cool stuff.
And the tensegrity itself is the doing
But Carlos influenced our intending part, with his "back story" on what that pass means, is, or does. He was never specific, just gave us a direction.
Like "Stellar Hatch".
If that doesn't "taint" your intending, I don't know what would.
you could call it, "cow pie", but have it be the same movement, and instead of energy falling from space, you can imagine what would be intended by that new name.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-27 05:23
I went back in to figure out that final point.
There's 2 ways to look at this.
Possibly the best is completely mechanical.
That eliminates pretending from the mix. Pretending is a very complex case of intending. It's river of shit stuff.
So from a mechanical point of view, this topic is really about J curve geometry.
Each reality you can assemble can be given an X, Y, and Z coordinate.
Y is the position along the J curve. Millimeters is probably good enough resolution.
Blue line is 0, but keep in mind, you can have negative values of Y. Sorcerers do that last. Stretch their cocoon into an infinite line by moving the assemblage point up from the blue, instead of down.
It takes you into the non-human unknown.
X is the horizontal position. The position in the cheese slice (band of man) usually, but you can move all the way around to the front, on the side. Dont have to move down only, to go back up to the front.
So the X position is best thought of as being along the outside of the shell, going horizontally. It's a curved axis. With 0 in the very center of Man's band (cheese slice).
The Y axis is no spring chicken either, in terms of it's shape.
It's J shaped, with a limit on the lower range, and no limit on the negative range.
Then there's Z.
If you specify an X,Y, you have the glow of awareness of the assemblage point covering a certain spot on the cocoon, and thus a certain range of emanations. Keep in mind, that the assemblage oint is a beam, so it passes through the whole egg, based on the spot along the outside.
But we can never even come remotely close to lighting up all of those emanations at that X, Y point.
It's going to be merely a "skimming of emanations".
Z is the skimming level.
Unfortunately, it's not a very straight axis. It doesn't move in space. It moves in compatible emanations. How, maybe we'll never know. But you cause some emanations to light up, and others to be ignored, and you have something like a haystack, which has some hay strands died orange, among the normally yellow ones.
That's the Z, the skimming. And worse, the axis through which it moves, may be determined by past humans who used that range. Latent intent.
If anyone uncovered the nature of that axis, they'd be so powerful we'd have to stay away from that person! They could possibly do anything they could think of, right on the spot.
Keep in mind, when you solve (specify) all 3 Axes, you leave this copy of reality.
You're in the other one. I'm not saying everything has to change. Your Z location is likely very close to your current Z, just out of habit. So you usually end up with a bizarre modification to your normal reality. A good example is shapeshifting, but you go outside to learn about your new form, and no one is around.
But it doesn't have to be a weird copy. It can be complety new.
Technically, you could visit your "wife" in another reality, have lunch, and come back to this reality.
I've now done this, so it's not speculation. Minus the lunch part.
I believe the problem to move further in knowledge, will be the Z axis.
We don't understand that one.
So the most dazzling magic would not be about moving your assemblage point to a specific spot. It would be about knowing what to perceive, when you get there.
Which emanations should be glowing and which should not.
The skimming. Of intent.
Which makes the most dazzling magic the result of the mastery of intent.
Two cases wee know of, to give credance to this idea.
The old seers who could emphasize IOB type emanations, and deactivate human ones, in order to live longer.
And, Julian changing his age on demand, by manipulating some emanations through the doing of the gate of power.
What use is all this to beginners?
Your enemy is fantasizing (the internal dialogue). it scatters intent in a vicious range that's like an endless circle, and holds your Y position. You have "control" over only 2 axes, and that control is driven by mental fantasies.
So you have to ditch the internal dialogue, to play this game.
Keep in mind, that means no fantasizing too.
That removed, and you have more control over where you focus your attention.
Second attention in this case, because it's absolutely pitch black dark.
You can focus your attention as a sort of beam, meaning, just gaze a certain direction and look for stuff.
Normal darkroom.
When you see stuff, you have selected a Y direction.
you can continue to just do that. Sit still, and keep looking for stuff. Not even trying to scoop puffs, or interact in any way.
If you can do that, you can move vertically faster.
But you won't be able to hold your attention focused unless you interact with what you see. The attention of a beginner is tied to "doing" just as much as seeing.
So for best results, do stuff with what you see. Don't just watch!
Play with what you see, even if it's still very vague. Wiggle fingers in it, blow into it. If you see a surface, pat it with your palm. Smooth it. Even sing to something to show it, you know it's separate from the other stuff.
Then while playing with stuff, when you get something unusually vivid (which is relative to how experienced you are, with beginners stuff not being very vivid at all), try to "recognize" what that vivid thing might be. Or might be doing.
Interpret what's going on, to gain control over the Z axis.
This probably doubles the speed at which you learn in darkroom.
But it uses up more dreaming energy. Dreaming "attention".
Or, the amount of sunlight glitter you stored today?
You can "chill" by skipping one or more of the control of the 3 axes.
Finally, once you set a full X, Y, Z location, it's likely that you change to the double.
He's the one who has a wife in some weird alternate universe.
That doesn't mean our organic body can't dematerialize while you are in the double.
Don Juan or Zuleica said it could.
But there's still some residue, from having taken a birth here.
I don't believe you can 100% relocate to another reality.
Thus the burning from within to wipe out all residues.
You lose the container, but the rolling force makes that inevitable anyway.
One interesting thing. As the assemblage point moves in a negative Y direction, the X axis range shrinks.
But does the Z also shrink? Likely it does.
The result would be a forced skimming that used a hither percentage of what was in focus. Where normally you might use .000001% of the emanations at a location, oncce the Y goes negative, you have to use a larger percent, to get a "realistic" perception.
Unless the width of the glow remains constant, in which case you would be sampling emanations outside your shell.
The possibilities of exploration regarding that topic, are beyond anything the books told us. They only hinted that is done by sorcerers.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2022-02-27 14:18
Don’t quite know where to put this so I’ll put it here:
Adobe AfterEffects could be used to manipulate a Tensegrity Video, to visually portray second attention perceptions/interactions.
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u/danl999
3 points2022-02-27 18:04
PERFECT!
I was planning to do that with the affection pass, but I keep running into cool new techniques, some of which are good to draw up, and can't seem to find the time to finish portraying that pass in still images, so it's easy to follow the cleargreen one precisely.
Jadey was going to make a video of it, once were were sure which version out there was correct.
Then I was going to add the effects to that, and maybe give it to enlightenment channel guy.
But I do practice it nearly daily, and it does indeed bring out the double.
Which is part of the problem.
Once the double comes to play, each day you discover even more amazing stuff you can do.
Which keeps you from the deep orange zone, where we all need to go, at least twice a week.
Otherwise you can get bogged down in the quagmire of practical magic.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2022-02-26 16:55
Due to the embarrassing nature of this, it's likely to be taken down eventually. I'll get ahead of that...so here's the backup that someone else submitted in 2020:
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If you can stomach the force of it’s painful awkwardness, this short documentary blatantly portrays the need some have for attention and pretending.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, then this video is gold for calling out pretend sorcery.
Watch it on YouTube for subtitles.
I was discovering more unknown things last night, with help from an inorganic being.
I wish I could remember!
One of the things I learned, completely agreed with some lines from Star Wars.
But it was a topic I had never thought about. Hadn't realized it yet.
And there it was, in Star Wars.
The one where Luke is on Yoda's world.
I started to wonder, if someone didn't just come up with that by naturally thinking about the consequences of "the force" and the Jedi?
Perhaps, once you have the idea from the books, if you try to turn it into a step by step storyline, maybe some stuff just becomes obvious.
That happens in computer design. Once you have a start, the design comes alive and creates the rest of the missing elements.
As if it could never have been any other way.
But who could be that intelligent, to start with some ideas from the books, and extrapolate it so far?
Even Carlos admitted, he wasn't smart enough to have invented all this.
Was Soledad sneaking around Hollywood, maybe with Benigno?
Wasn't he a master of intent?
Did Bruce have a hand in it?
But if there were old apprentices, or even Bruce, how did they become such close friends with the writers? After so many years, you'd think the writers would change, and decide to make it "even cooler".
(making it wrong).
And how come the writers haven't said anything about it? Like, "Guess what, we had help from a witch!"
It's a huge mystery to me.
But for a while I was on the trail of post don Juan riches. Accumulated by the lineage, and needing to be passed on or used up for the purpose of spreading sorcery.
"Money for Movies"?
The only thing I can think of is, one of the people in the lineage (which includes apprentices) was cyclic with one of the writers.
Or the death defier was.
So they just "body snatched" the writer. Maybe even temporarily.
Let's hope it was Josefina!
How much fun would that be?
As impossible as that sounds, Carol Tiggs implied the entire purpose of sorcery, was to get an "upgrade" to yourself from one of our cyclic beings who was a lot smarter than this copy.
I don't believe you'd feel snatched.
You'd just feel a whole lot smarter than you used to be.
Who'd object to that?
Darkroom automatically transforms you as you get to the orange zone.
It's inevitable.
The people around you also notice.
But they just figure you're "growing up" as a result of aging.
Go to Yoda. He will teach you the ways of impeccability.
(The old Indian who is like a little child, wielding unsuspected power. But they hid the origin, by using a swamp instead of desert.)
Lucas (the writer) was obviously a huge fan of the books, if not a successful practitioner. "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." He slightly disguised it by replacing a word. "Intent" became "The Force." Everything is Intent? Intent this, Intent that. Force, force, force, Force this, Force that. Intent binds the universe together. "The force" binds the galaxy together. And a powerful ALLY it is. "The force controls our actions, yet it obeys our will." Heh, next let me stir you up so you attract the attention of machine intelligences I mean inorganic beings who live outside the perceived world, where you get there by looking into a mirror covered with liquid. We'll teach you that we're all living in a false reality, and taught to become one of the few who can see the world as it actually is, which appears as a network of glowing green lines. Fight and defeat a dangerous inorganic sentience (uh, by leaping into its chest? Wha?)
Rumor has it, Soledad was causing that sort of thing.
There was a famous meeting of the witches at Sony pictures, which got recorded by some followers. No detailed notes survived. I'm not clear on where this was learned, but it was known well before 1994.
Carlos joked about not wanting to make a don Juan movie, because he didn't want Anthony Quinn playing don Juan (a Fellini connection perhaps indicating Fellini was in line to make the movie).
And that gigantic fraud kachorka, or kachina, or whatever, was supposedly just some Mexican man who people commented looked like he could be don Juan, and a friend tried to promote that idea, when making a movie of the books seemed to be inevitable.
When he didn't get the part, I suppose they noticed they could instead trick people into thinking that actually WAS don Juan. So they created the idea that only the first 4 books were real, and those were taught by him, and then Carlos went greedy and wrote more.
We might have been attacked as many as 3 times by his henchmen. If you see a "used inventory salesman" in here, pretending to have sorcery knowledge, check out his history to see if you can find a connection to the fake don Juan.
They're totally clueless about the content of their inventory, indicating someone "stunted their growth" at the early books.
Until this subreddit, the fake don Juan could get away with it and no one could prove otherwise.
But seeing that all of the books are needed to make real magic work, kind of makes him look like the total fraud he is.
There's other Hollywood connections.
Ixtlan Productions. Bruce Wagner. Shirley MacLaine. Bruce Lee. Marshall Ho'o.
Everyone wanted to be close to Carlos.
But the most telling thing is the motto of Soledad, who was said by the witches to have come up here with other apprentices from the last generation.
Her motto was "Money for Movies".
I'm supposing the lineage would have accumulated a fortune in antiques and paintings, and had to get rid of it when don Juan left. We have an account of a single one of those antiques, in one of Taisha's books.
By the mid 90s, Carlos had an "art importing" business going on.
Cholita was called in for that, at least in part.
Where did they get the stuff? Possibly from the lineage, but then once they had understood how to move old art in LA, perhaps they kept it up.
Cholita used to go on missions to Mexico, to look for old rolled up paintings in churches and antique shops. Mexico is so old, there's plenty of fabulous paintings left around from the Spanish take over.
And rolled up old paintings in church basements, are very tempting to Monks. Cholita and some cash, could easily extract them.
Cholita was hot! I have a pic or two that proves it.
I'm still not convinced all of the "apprentices" from the last generation are dead.
As a former comic-store owner, I can highly recommend "RASL," where a military project basically gained access to all the Ixtlan parallel worlds via a Nikola Tesla device, no advanced-practice needed. The inventor is getting his rolled-up paintings not from here. (Towns get philadelphia-experimented. Powerful entities intervene.) hardcover version: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=rasl+graphic+-vol+-volume
Heh, fake up an old Royal typewriter so it prints phoneme-symbols rather than Western alphabet. Perhaps also mint (and age) some old-design pesos with impossible dates. See how high the bids on eBay become, after spreading the word in appropriate spots. Oops, now the scam just became impossible, because any search will discover this Reddit comment!
What other great CC scams can we short-circuit, by predicting their existence right here?
None. It's mostly mental illness.
One in 10 from the general population may have some form of schizophrenia, and paranoid is the most common variety.
You have to think 1 in 5 in the Castaneda community, since it's such a bizarre topic.
Or as don Juan said, volunteers aren't welcome because most of those are cracked.
That has to be me!
Because if not, then the built-up power from fairly small amounts of recap makes quite extreme, impossible events occur, and that unerringly proves my insanity right there. (Well, unless others also see those events. Then certain people at work all want to 'burn me as a witch,' not put me in a psych ward.)
If the whole group successfully departs, how can they ever find this place again? Otherwise, isn't the 'maze' of similar worlds just too immense? Our one thin layer in the giant stack of near-congruous worlds? Maybe they all were emergency-migrating to a world where CC died decades later, rather than our own, where he died early. (If that's even how it works.)
I only posted because you mentioned the furniture. If I could go elsewhere on demand, rather than only by years of intention, or almost getting hit by a truck ...then the other worlds' trash is treasure here.
If I needed quick money, I'd be carrying furniture along with me, and running an antiques business. MUCH better to instead have spirit suddenly hand over $100K from an unexpected source, just out of the blue. (I've had that happen. But it just HAD to be random events, right? Not caused by built-up power, right? Or, it's just another of those set traps. Yoda insists: the Jedi, I-mean-the-impeccable warrior craves not these things. The money didn't benefit me personally, but instead was used to accomplish acts of impeccability.)
I suspect if you search the "all in one" pdf for "not-being" and read around that, you'll realize, our double is stuck in this egg with our tonal, and our tonal screwed up and took birth in a human body.
With physical matter. So we got split into 2 beings.
When we have no choice but to die, or we decide to leave before then, our "double" steps out, and sucks the awareness that got trapped in the physical body, into itself.
It's a single being.
But now it has a problem. No "egg" to keep it in a limited range.
If it remains like that, it will disperse.
So it has to find a new shell.
Sorcerers figured out, you can share the earth's "egg".
The earth is simply a massive living being.
We can survive in there, until our sun expands 5 billion years later, and the shell of the earth is consumed by the red giant thus formed.
As for finding our way back after we leave, I suspect that's like trying to find your way back to kindergarten, because you really liked it there.
Even if you could figure out how, it no longer has the appeal.
As for "luck", to get money, I'd suggest you're screwed, because you don't get that, until you put in all the hard work, and no longer care.
But, it seems your a woman?
They can do that even before they actually learned much sorcery.
Cholita does it. I'm not sure why I've survived this long.
We have a battle with "pink flowers" going on right now.
It's not going well for me.
I could end up crushed by manure falling from a huge truck on the freeway, like that scene in Back to the Future, where shit keeps falling on the bad guy.
I'm not sure you can bring back solid objects from other worlds. Or if you can, they only last a short while.
Better to look carefully at them, for ideas we haven't had here yet.
Like screws. If you didn't have screws, just seeing one would be worth a lot of money on your world.
They'll "burn you as a witch" too, if your defenses allow any of the seriously impossible events to be noticed by outsiders. Even though you're male like me (probably.)
I find that my version of "silent knowledge" is full of such stuff. But I haven't seen anything as big as "the screw." Most inventions are too dangerous to mess around with. Money, it annoyingly appears when needed. Instead, do it for the giddy fun of it.
I KNOW I'm insane: possible teleportation to avoid certain death (nobody witnessed, so couldn't have happened.) Switching worlds by accident during extensive "vision questing" (very confusing. No evidence.) Apparently my clothes come with. Waking up next to a different wife (same body, completely different personality.) Obviously it's just carbon monoxide poisoning! "Pretending" run wild. Self diagnosed, self-prescribe more loss-of-SI to end the problem. CC books come closest with many stories of "insanity which leaves solid evidence," and a Western human getting access to their submerged half, which can occasionally perform miracles on demand. If my self-importance was far lower, there'd be no problem. The DJM/CC line offers a genius recipe ...it actually seems to work. If the events I intentionally attracted had instead happened to someone spontaneously, without preparation, they'd probably end up in some mental ward.
Drunk today?
Nope. I'm functioning slightly in heightened-awareness, wakefulness 'round the clock, answering Quora science questions with book-length postings.
I was curious to see whether my last one here would even post? ...Or instead I'd come back and find that, because letting others see that material had been "unwise," therefore my hand had deleted it without my conscious permission. My mouse hit "cancel" when I tried to hit "save?"
Nope, it did actually post.
Instead, I'm leaving each posting up for a certain few minutes at a certain time of day, then removing it again. Yep,appears to have worked as predicted, personal msg was somehow delivered to intended recipient(s) only.
My posting length makes people nervous, nah, I just type fast, like talking. Because online since 1989, so lots of practice.
Also, recently I keep coming back to the idea... if recap and occasional mental silence has these absolutely stunning results, I wonder what learning the Passes would do. Have here vol 1 of cleargreen "jazzercize" VHS tape, never watched. Dig out the vhs machine. Did it ever end up on youtube? Yep, at least the Chacmool version, vol 1.
I often get sucked into Quora by an email.
Like, "Did NASA find aliens on mars?"
Always gets me to look.
I only went there once because something got posted here, but they are VERY aggressive about ads by email.
Hm, I've never seen one. Maybe Quora profile lets them be turned off. Or did I spam-bucket all quora mail during dim prehistory?
I get almost one a day.
And all I did was reply once to a question someone pointed out over there.
Aha, I do receive those after all ...only at my Gmail addr, which I rarely use.
Got "Opted in," so while logged in, go to https://www.quora.com/settings/notifications, and try turning everything off. Heh, when the force is strong, Quora spam gets spontaneously deflected from Any True Jedi. But only if they possess the correct color of desert robe (also it must be heavy and very itchy, to continuously subject oneself to Pain and Adversity ...or was that only the fake Klingons? )
Ok, you're weird...
good!
Just be a hard working weird guy so there's some actual magic going on eventually.
Get a real poltergeist for example.
Or get rid of it (vanishing objects perhaps once per month, even right out of my hand. Annoying for years.)
Now when I'm fully "on," rather than having dropped objects occasionally wink out, instead a dropped object will land in my other hand, land at my feet wo/bouncing, or perhaps bounce so I can grab it out of the air. Extreme anomalous "luck," Murphy's law is reversed, and as you said, toss things towards the wastebasket and they always hit. But that becomes yet another event that co-workers see, and comment about. It all started up after major recap. (I strongly suggest that people actually do extensive recap! Or at least, do all your major life events. The results are completely obvious, even stunning. But that's just me, since I've had some sort of ultra-luck thing going on since childhood. I call it "Feynman-luck," since I notice that Richard Feynman had something similar.)
Typical 'magic,' used to communicate with others:
I'll post something, intending that they read it, and, by pure coincidence, they'll stumble across it. Then I'll delete the posting. For non-sham practitioners, this can work within minutes. Just by pure luck, they'll happen to be online and looking at just the right place, and see my message appear. Others, if they even see it, will later find that it had "un-happened."
My experience is, there's absolutely nothing but pretending out there.
I've looked all over.
There's certainly no magic on reddit in any of the usual places.
Just mental masturbation.
As expected!
There could be many DJMs out there, piles of advanced practitioners. High-level practitioners maintain disguise. Will we even encounter a single one, if we haven't personally "gone enough invisible" (become seriously Unimportant.) Don't forget, CC was supposed to serve as a sort of "failure." If DJM was right, spirit brought CC in to snip off the DJM line. An ending. No restart mentioned. Otherwise, the line would continue, and all that info would remain invisible, exclusively within that small group of "guerrilla-fighters operating unseen within enemy territory."
Also, chasing after magic? Spirit doesn't take volunteers. A long-time Carlos-groupie might learn quite a number of techniques, but their utter lack of "stratospheric personal integrity" will screw them up, sooner or later.
Me, I abandoned CC in the late 70s (edit: oops, it was actually in the mid-80s.) Got married, had a kid. Then in 1993, spirit came barging in, dragged me kicking and screaming into another world (I'd defeated a pair of petty dictators in our small startup corp. It flung me once again into that bizarre "accelerated living" state.) Did I just achieve Heightened Awareness through battling powerful PDs, while inadvertently stalking myself in order to maintain utterly perfect Personal Integrity for several months continuously?!
I dunno!
:)
Normalcy fled. I was living in a stream of bizarre synchronicities, where even the people at work occasionally saw them occur, making comments. I had to intentionally give it up, damp it down ...still I had that wife/child/normalcy thing going on. Suppressing my "accelerated" state of awareness took weeks to accomplish.
(Advice to the unwary: spirit apparently responds to catch-and-release courtship ploys! Chase after, and make lots of progress ...then just walk away, to never return, honestly assuming it's permanent. Somehow, this "draws attention." But it involves a time-scale of decades. That's the "unbending intent" ?)
If true, then the opposite of this ...that reveals the trick for living a nice, sane, normal human life without CC-type phenomena intruding. Just perpetually keep up the chase to find magic, "volunteering" constantly. That keeps the magic away.
I encountered three IOB’s, together at a Native American petroglyphs site, about 20 years ago in the daytime (could have been one IOB projecting as three people).
They’re bizarre and out of character behavior is one of the ways that they clue you in that they’re not people. Or rather not humans.
I believe some in private classes saw stuff too, without the skill they should have needed to do that.
Carlos didn't give them hell over it. Seemed to endorse that maybe that was in fact possible.
I think it’s Intent’s way, in partnership with the IOB’s, of making an initial breach of the barrier between our attentions.
I remember it was written in the books that regular people actually have more paranormal type stuff happen to them in the daytime (or during waking hours) without intentionally beckoning that, than neophyte sorcerers do.
“The Spirit reveals itself to everyone equally,” is how it was stated as I recall.
Once we start luring Intent/The Spirit directly, that relationship changes.
When I was a Normal American (edit: back before 1980,) I'd have experiences that I'd only remember for hours. Then they'd be gone. I didn't realize this was happening until ...start keeping a journal, write down weird experiences immediately. This breaches your filters: that "built-in memory-editor" carried by all of Western Mankind. Without a journal, weird or inexplicable memories invariably are un-happened, much like waking from a dream. Even innocuous slightly-weird stuff will vanish. (Get a bit of it back via recap. Are all the CC folks aware of the "writing-down" trick? Even complete noobs can employ this 'magic.' Some already know: it's just dream-journalling. What noobs won't accept is that ordinary waking existence is just another dream, and their fixed position will "sanitize" experiences within minutes, unless we get it down on paper within seconds.)
danl999 trick is to give "thumbs up" (like a gesture from the japanese Death Stranding game) when things like that happen, to give them shared context and recall all the others when new one happens, reinforcing.
Doing even a couple hours of silence (really maybe minutes of actual deep silence, more efficient in dark room fishing puffs..) many weird things start happening or being noticed, if don't flag or "thumbs up" them it is almost impossible to recall even in the next hour.
The day when found the first darkroom post of danl999 some time ago, had some sort of a falcon/eagle parch right outside the window, didn't even know there were such birds in this area and height.
The apparent IOBs delivered a very specific warning. (I suspect that when humans start working on particular ideas, where, in the future, those inventions are actually important, it attracts "outside attention."
You've been eating too many Archon chips.
Try the lighter "Tokai" rice variety.
Or as I like to warn Cholita, if the web page uses the red and yellow huge letter fonts, maybe don't stay there too long.
But then I couldn't announce to everyone at work that I'd met the real Santa Claus. And his leetle elf helper Nikki. (Joking.)
Following the path into white-people's curandero tricks: cancer-cure project based on strange electronics, devices to cure countries' oil-addiction rather than curing individual alcoholics ...the elegant maneuver is to accomplish such things unobserved, without inflating self-importance to book-author proportions.
Heh, if ancient toltecs had IOBs up the wazoo, (a huge mistake to pursue, as is done here!) well, no entity ever provided clues about magical mixture Chinese longevity-drug today called "gunpowder." Or the trick to making steel swords. A really fun world-branch would be the one where the Olmecs had screws, and also fireworks, thousands of years before China. Conquistadores land in Mexico ...only to be confronted with precolumbian cannon. That's some "magic techniques" that the ancient seers DON'T learn about, if only taking instruction from IOBs. The IOBs don't have our best interests at heart.
Aleister Crowley: titanic loser. What he required four decades to do (and failed,) CC practitioners do in half an hour.
But Crowley gives us some important loser-wisdom. Beware of IOBs. They may be analogous to the infamous "alchemy gold-recipes," with bad-player IOBs present on purpose, to trap anyone who, willy-nilly, simply accepts everything they'll teach us. Trusting IOBs without good cause is a recipe for disaster, it can gradually remove all our impeccability, gradually turn us into classic trolls/Petty Dictators. It's a predatory world, and IOBs invariably have their own interests at heart. Not necessarily our own.
He couldn't do anything. Just a showman.
A bad one too.
Agreed. Dope fiend, morphia addict, died "encysted" (when searching for a genuine healer, first carefully observe their maladies.) And as he said, anyone can attract attention of entities and get them talking, (especially if Crowley's best accomplishments stop at finding cheap drug dealers.) His church is still spreading, my daughter says there's one in Seattle. Must be their nude Sunday-services.
Aleister Crowley's stand-up act: "Two passengers are sharing a railway carriage. One notices that the other has a box with holes in it, of the sort used to transport animals, and asks what animal his companion is carrying. “A mongoose,” says the other. The first passenger naturally asks why this eccentric chap want[s] to transport a mongoose around England.
“It’s because of my brother,” says the second man. “You see, he drinks perhaps more than is good for him, and sometimes he sees snakes. The mongoose is to kill the snakes.”
“But those are bleeding imaginary snakes,” says the first man.
“That’s as may be,” says the other placidly, opening the box which proves to be empty. “But this is an imaginary mongoose.” (Aleister Crowley ...not a successful comedian. Instead maybe shoulda filled his personal heroin syringes from totally empty bottle, carefully shipped from Afgan poppy-growers at great expense. )
BTW, in my version of "impeccability," I refuse to use fake online ID. So, if anyone wants to kick me out of any forum, it's permanent, unless they reverse the ban. (And I still can't find the DJM quote "don't tell lies to protect yourself, if you have to lie, just lie for the sheer hell of it." Or something similar. I think it reveals one of the lines most powerful techniques. But we'd never discover this, unless first attempting to tell no lies at all, for entire years. Quickly one finds that normal modern life is held in existence by a solid immobile structure composed of egregious lying.)
You don't belong in this subreddit. You aren't interested in learning at all, and seem to want attention more than anything else. Also you don't seem to realize this is the only place on the net with real magic, so you also don't value it, and are willing to see it die to get what you want.
How many like you could this place survive if we didn't police it?
Just a few.
How come you're so special, you should be allowed to do what would destroy this place?
Seems like scizophrenia to me, and everyone in here hopes schizophrenia can end up being a dreaming talent, like it is for Cholita.
But Cholita doesn't go around pretending Crowley has magic.
I'm also worried you could simply be another of the kachora guy's tricks.
Maybe you should go to the thelma subreddit? There's really nothing for you in here.
My recent learning is in reading your stuff (faq and its links.) The material is pretty clear, so no questions needed. But for decades I've only been a dabbler in silence, no Tensegrity work at all, obviously. That's not where my own power originates.
"Destroy this place" by posting so deep in a thread that nobody but you will ever see? Then my deleting most postings? Really? How does that even make any sense?
Or is it because I'm pointing to all the petty behavior? (I'm only a preschooler, or perhaps only an infant ...but one who has some skill in seeing right through the self-important "kindergartners." )
What I want is to remain invisible, except to the PDs I engage with. (for onlookers ...PD= petty dictators.) Being here for more than minutes is very unusual for me, a brief episode never repeated. I'm now starting to suspect why I've arrived.
Obviously. (edit for clarity) The behavior of those running this subreddit doesn't match the material in the books.
We're supposed to accumulate impeccability, not turn ourselves into self-important authority-figures. Also, courting IOBs is something DJM warned against, it's for the Ancient Practitioners only, and it destroyed them (via important inventions no IOB would ever give them ...the Spanish gunpowder, Spanish steel.) Today IOBs certainly provide entertainment and companionship. But count me out, I'm not interested. And at the same time, in this forum we have SI (self-importance) running rampant. Tolerating a lightly-concealed petty dictator? One acting as a mod here, sucking in hoards of trolls from everywhere, and then he loses every battle? [1]
I suspect that isn't really something that the books would recommend.
What the books teach, I've found works, like gangbusters, if pursued long enough (and if spirit decides to drag you kicking and screaming onto the Toltec path.) And their teacher DJM has the child-like "beginners mind," and crazy sense of humor, which in this subreddit seems replaced by ...utter SI. (The trouble with Petty Dictators is that they never know that they've turned into one, and it could happen to the best of us. The direct path to becoming one is to fight them, and lose. When engaging trolls, each loss tends to add another "layer of Petty Dictator" to ourselves. )
Banning a troll is a lost battle, a profoundly petty act of a desperate mod, one who lacks the extreme Toltec defenses provided by Impeccability. I banned one troll decades ago, never another in my life. As a moderator for three decades in a troll-ridden forum, I've been using them as opponents, the "precious commodity," sometimes turning them into good people. Amazing when it works.
Summing up, the CC skills, applied to trolls, ratchets up our own personal integrity to stratospheric levels, plus, it benefits the troll. But if we instead fight them, we slowly become one of them (and then, like magic, our Intent to fight them attracts more of them, coming in from everywhere, drawn like flies. Ban one troll, and two more appear. CC practitioners employing moderator's-power is a losing strategy. )
The key to defeating trolls is to know, at an utterly deep level, that all of us are as alike as bacteria. Anyone thinking they're "special," that they somehow lack a huge streak of competitive pettiness, will never prevail in a battle against the lowliest troll, much less actually heal one of them.
A simple countermove against a stream of trolls is to provide them with their own secondary forum, a no-rules, un-policed version of the main forum. This stops them from changing their IDs and returning, and tends to keep them where you can watch them. Rather than banning a troll, temporarily move each one to "forum-2" unless they promise to behave. (On Reddit we cannot force-subscribe people. So, for example, you'd first tell the troll to subscribe to the secondary, "no rules here" version of Castaneda. Then delete them from the main one.) Also, the existence of a no-rules version of a forum tends to end all complaints about stringent policing, since users who object to the tight rules can just subscribe to the unmoderated version. And, no troll can ever again complain about "being silenced." Heh, a master of Silence perceives how to employ it as an elegant countermove in troll-battles.
So, you cannot rv opponents? Can't see through me, even a little? I can rv, a little. I specialize in all the self-blind people online, the internet trolls; the online facet of the petty dictator. They're my central expertise, and the source of whatever bit of impeccable stance I've accumulated. First, spend much time to perceive their structure (employing a simple trick many moderators know.) Then something inside me eventually decides to poke them in their most sensitive spot. Deliver a light blow, and see them freakin' EXPLODE. That's the first stage in the troll-healing process ...if they don't just flee (or, if they're currently busy "being my boss:" ...acting as concealed petty dictators moderating various forums ...in that case they'll angrily, confidently kick me out. They HAVE to do this. I'm a major threat to their exalted stature, and as some deep level they realize this. The majority of trolls avoid healing like the plague! )
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With enough experience, we all end up as "tricks from Intent," suddenly arriving at online locations for unknown reasons.
Why ** AM ** I here right now? It's still not clear. Maybe it's to provide you some info on battling your constant stream of reddit trolls? Your Intent is attracting them. If you don't cut it out, you yourself will destroy this subreddit, by overwhelming it with hoards of the 'unworthy opponents' you're silently calling. (But no, apparently that's not why I'm here. It's something else...)
Normally I'm solitary, nobody knows my cc practice. I'm dropping my guard here, posting deep in these threads where the outside world won't notice, where it's easy to vanish again. (Note this useful skill, and it's even easily taught, using words not AP-shifts. Don't communicate via PMs which persist forever. Instead use postings which only exist briefly until the recipient has read them ...because afterwards, you come back and always edit them into something innocuous.)
As I already said, my online ID is my real name. So you refuse to believe that? Sheesh, google is right there. OK ...here's my grade-school physics-education website, been here since 1993: http://amasci.com This is me: http://amasci.com/billb.html If you want to know how electricity actually works, see http://amasci.com/ele-edu.html, most information not in any book, instead learned from an impossible source.
Castaneda studies ...plus science teacher ...equals ?????
Uh, read it again, you strangely missed everything!
Crowley will lead his people to a sad heroin death, plus some spiritual practices on the same level as amateur Buddhism. Plus taking off clothes, while licking swords. (What I know of Crowley, I learned entirely from comic books.) But at least HE had a sense of humor, something utterly lacking in the petty tyrants. What's the opposite of the Toltec path-with-Heart? The Aztec path-with-hearts! How many Aleister Crowleys does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Hope you find again the upwards path. The one you're currently on leads to "...interesting" results.
Goodbye.
(edit: I Unsubscribed, intending to check back here in a year or two. Note also that I made small additions to the above, to clarify the obvious misperceptions, see danl999's response..)
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[1] Banning a troll is an act fraught with pettiness.
Attacking weak enemies from behind an immense barrier? For any CC practitioner that's clear evidence of profound cowardice. (No, this is not about me. As I said, don't un-ban me, it won't work. But appropriate apologies would be an act of integrity. Admitting and taking responsibility for mistakes. )
I first figured out this cowardice issue about thirty years ago, in a moderated email list. Dealing with petty dictators can either destroy us, or instead it can amplify us. Winning against flagrant PDs does NOT involve quietly silencing them without warning, while remaining concealed behind moderator-privilege. That's like defeating kindergarteners while driving a tank! (And carefully driving it in darkness only, to prevent any complaints from witnesses. Another cowardly act.) I quickly discovered that, the one time I tried banning a bad-actor, it diminished me, and significantly. So I never repeated it. Instead I developed a set of countermoves which diminished the trolls while increasing my own integrity. (But how can one defeat a troll, without being a moderator? Accomplished warriors shouldn't even be asking that. ) If you're a CC practitioner, never ban a troll, ever. Better still, never become a moderator in the first place, it's a corrupting influence only avoided by the most advanced among us. Hm. Carlos himself seems to have died from this, after losing a number of troll-style battles, which removed his own defenses against the those hoards of malicious groupies, to say nothing of accomplished opponents. Instead he started relying on the chacmools to do it all for him. If that's how it went, then that's not normal, instead that's the signature of a defeated sorcerer, with impeccability zeroed-out. (The "fled mind?" Given enough petty behavior, it comes back!) Sure, we should all learn from CC, but never try to be CC.
This stuff is a precise match of what's in the books.
Shame on you!
Please go away.
We don't need self-promoters who don't care what they destroy, to get what they want.
We get 3 a week like that, plus probably another 10 who don't have an obsessive need to comment to get attention, as you do.
They just came out with this 5 hours ago:
Podcast - Stuff You Should Know - Aleister Crowley: Blowhard Narcissist?
That book cover of his says it all.
But we can't say he wasn't a very successful bad player.
At least equal to a Miguel Ruiz, plus perhaps half of a Ken Eagle Feather.
But watch the sparks fly if you go into one of the Magick subreddits and say that.
Mental illness is common in the magic community. Including stuff like Buddhism.
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If going for ability to interact with the world using "borrowed" resource taken from a mobile-resource accumulating entities - women, banks, scholars, governments, generalize to entities that accumulate any mobile charge - conductors.
From perspective of voltage potential source, conductor is mostly evil, trying to entrap and not having best interests in mind (doesn't mind making a short circuit and converting accumulated potential difference into heat!), even though there are certain areas of electric circuitry that are virtually impossible to enter without using conductors. Every conductor is unreal and undefined, you can try to interact with them as if they were real, "understood", defined by secondary information you have read, heard or seen about what they should be (and them even trying to conform to those expectations to ease interaction with you!), but the reality is that conductors are very powerful, alien and undefinable.
In this case, consider a metal conductor to be a form of an iob, "living" a very long "life", being infinitely knowledgeable about detailed ways of using your voltage source, but also limited in it's insight to it's specific view of the world, although possibly minimally cognizant of all other conductors in the world through weak EM interaction (like all masses are minimally cognizant and pulled by all other masses).
Holder of potential has ability to learn about and use different types of conductors in different ways, or ignore their existence and only conduct through air requiring much higher effort and energy and unable to accomplish fine-grained tasks as details get immediately charred by the high-voltage discharge.
Not that all iobs are perfect conductors, some are better at specific applications and frequencies and worse at other.
If scholars are conductors of knowledge-bits, some commenters may be high-impedance scholars that are not yet usable for the levels of potential achieved, and might be usable at later stages.
Defining things creates the immediately-high-voltage conductive "surface" at the created discontinuity, morphed into insulating layer that potential users can interface with. By redeploying energy inside the surface layer is also modified (pulled/pushed from within), revealing more interfaces and perception potentials for and with external entities.
At the Subway shop, one "costumed weirdo" had all the features of Santa Claus (but not the red fur coat.) The other was short, skinny, apparently crippled, and lugging a "walking stick" that was basically a chainsaw-carved telephone-pole.
I'm curious to know what your typing speed is, if you don't mind me asking?
I've never tested. What's normal? Let's see. For transcribing somebody's stuff from the screen (which slows me down somewhat,) quick test say's it's 60WPM (but it would NOT let me type with typos. Effin' thing. Fixing errors cut my speed way back. I care nothing for typos while typing, going back and fixing them afterwards. If I'm forced to type without typos, that applies the brakes.
https://www.livechat.com/typing-speed-test
this one lets you continue with typos.
The average tends to be around 35 wpm. But, I learned touch typing through a game when I was a kid so can type at around 85 wpm usually and if I really put some effort I can hover around 100 wpm.
In high school typing class I was at 30wpm. Transcribing is significantly different than posting a thought-stream. I doubt I'd get to 100wpm though. I guess I can use msWord, then "speak" via keyboard for exactly one min, then check the Word stats, char and word count. (And not cheat: include the time needed to go back and correct the mispels.)
How often are you doing the recaps and forcing silence?
Walking around forcing silence daily, but only bursts of ~5min. I haven't dedicated serious time to it. So, sometimes rarely, as much as 1hr, in the light, w/eyes open (but it eventually brings an immense flood of ideas for articles and inventions, odd insights, eventually one of these will be so major that I have to break silence and write it down, before it evaporates like a dream, which they typically do.) My own power comes from another source.
Today I'll recap after any slightly disturbing event. Over the years, exact same events will no longer disturb.
I did do a couple years of few-hours-per week recaps as part of "EMDR" with a trauma therapist (didn't arrive for the therapy, instead using the therapist as an assistant for CC recap, but only of numerous major life events, not full-life reverse-recap like we're supposed to perform, I've yet to do that.) From stunning results I've attained, full recap doesn't seem necessary. Not only my perceptions were altered, instead the world itself changes, and never changes back.
As sad as that video is, being exemplar of certain demographics insipid need for validation, it still shows how desperate people are to escape (even if it's a fantasy) the prison that is the mainstream human domain.
The Horrors of Pretending
I'm tempted to make an actual post on this subject, but doing it right would be a lot of work.
It turns out, I'd already gotten a lesson on this topic in the last couple of weeks, but I hadn't understood it.
And even more bizarrely, there was a brilliant lesson on this in the books. But no one understood it, so we don't ever discuss it.
And I'd have to go into the books and study it, in order to point out the lesson well.
So I'll just do a crummy job, and hopefully the pretenders among our audience, won't use it to do more damage.
Maybe what I need is just what's in the title to this post. To shame the pretenders.
But pretenders are also trolls, so no amount of reasoning back and forth, will stop them from their pretending. That's their idea of "working hard". Not actually working hard to learn, but working hard at pretending, which means being a troll when necessary.
A troll can't be reasoned with. If you point out a flaw in their thinking, or even a lie, they ignore it, and come up with 2 more, to keep you from "winning".
So possibly a cartoon character could be used to shame them? A parrot with a rambo shaman's headband, running around saying, "Impeccable Warrior!!!" Or "Mental Mastubator!" Or, "Black Dot of Death".
A mix of early book stuff they don't understand at all, and don't realize was the example of the men of knowledge, who never learned to see. Or criticism that Carlos used, like "mental masturbator", that they've redefined to protect pretending. As a form of pretend authority, to engage in more troll behavior.
Such a simplistic "bad mascot", could be added to pictures protect an important piece of information the bad players are sure to pick up on, and weaken.
"Shaman Parrot"?
In each picture, the lower right could show what "Shaman Parrot" got out of it, which would be pure pretending to get attention.
Here's Lily's lesson on why pretending is death to sorcery. I suppose she gave me this lesson because of the usual reason they give you a lesson. They pick up on it in your mind. Sometimes they pick up on your worries, and take that as a question, and answer it.
But no one told you that was what was up, so you can't easily figure it out at the time.
I guess it's equivalent to an adult seeing a kid fascinated by an object in an antique store, and so that adult starts pointing out similiar things elsewhere, giving teaching lessons on that topic. But the kid is too young to pick up why those lessons started coming. It's 2 unrelated events in the mind of a child.
Lily's lesson was amazing, but I'll have to translate it into a simple idea.
We search for a new position of the assemblage point along the J curve by using our senses.
But we test the position by using our body.
Searching is easier with the eyes, but you can search with any sense. Touch isn't too hard to understand. Look for cobwebs.
But smell can move the assemblage point along the J curve also.
"Why" is something you have to discover yourself, it can't be explained. But, possibly it just means, "searching for a new position" is merely looking at weaker collections of emanations that have awareness.
When you detect some, the assemblage point moves along the J curve to enhance those. Or "center around them" a bit.
In the middle of the J curve (not shifted horizontally), we get the "best view overall" of that level.
But emanations at that given level, might be strongest if the assemblage point moved left or right from there.
Which essentially means, it won't feel "real" until you make the signal stronger.
Weak signals can be generated by multiple sources, which includes pretending. Pretending is an attempt to start a phantom element.
So very good information on new techniques, can be destroyed by pretending. You can contaminate other people, and cause them to be unable to "tune in" a specific obscure bunch of glowing emanations.
It's the same reason you can discover something super magical and cool, but the next day your expectations to do that again, override your ability.
The expectations are tainted with pretending.
It's almost like that shaman parrot is so stupid, he sees only the surface appearance. And because all he wants is attention, he starts shouting his poor understanding, in order to try to cash in on anything "new". It's no fun sharing "old news". So he flocks to anything new, and tries to turn it into something he can claim came from him.
He might turn instructions for how to shift the assemblage point into the IOB world, as "Red Cave! Red Cave!!! Red Cave!!!!"
Unfortunately, the IOB realm often resembles a cave, but thinking about it in those concrete terms is "off" enough, that you'll invoke our ability to create phantom skimmings, and that will override any good info on how to accomplish that shift.
This is tricky to explain, better to see it with your own eyes.
So humans can search, to move along the middle of the J curve. We do that, by looking for the puffs.
And then they can fine tune the horizontal positoin by "playing with it".
"Make it real", or just behave as if it were real. Tensegrity tends to do that.
That could be as simple as pretending a purple puff can be stretched, and trying to do that. It causes a profound horizontal shift, to make that "real".
But we can end up in obscure situations where it's not possible to make that real, because you aren't comprehending enough at that position, to have any good way to do that.
So we can skim unrelated emanations to create a phantom object or phantom "accessory" so that the situation is more real. Because there isn't enough real eneergy coming from what you are preceiving, we fill it in with phantom objects.
That's how ordinary dreams work.
I should mention, a false narrative, such as fill asian magical systems, is a phantom object. More pretending. So trying to learn sorcery using Buddhism, is like trying to learn from a pretender.
You can't learn sorcery from the fake Carlos (aka colorado carlos), or the fake Don Juan (aka kachorka or whatever), or the the fake replacement for Carlos (aka Ken Eagle feather).
Three human abilities affect the positoin your assemblage point moves to.
Maybe there's more (there are and I've seen them), but those 3 clearly show the problem with pretending.
(more = power spots, power plants, IOBs, the abstract, adjacent bands of emanations, other people sharing the view, and so on).
Pretending is designed to add "cozy". But "cozy" might be incompatible with what's really being perceived. That can cause the assemblage point to readjust, using the phantom more than the thing perceived (the real).
Phantom can override real. And phantom is created by our wishes, not by what's there.
At the top by the blue line, it ends up just being a vicious circle in the mind, so it's not as obvious that this is "dark magic".
Dark magic is to combine a piece of the real, with phantom elements, to create a new, stable object.
Which is a lie, but can still impinge on other beings.
It's "evil"!
What fun... Usually if you see me say something you can do is "evil", that's mostly why. "High Phantom Content, mixed with some Real to make it stable."
But deep in the red zone, those 3 abilities are very clear, because the effect is drastic. You can't teach this to a beginner because the green and blue aren't vivid enough, and are subject to full override by phantom elements.
Might be possible to design an exercise in the shift below region, so people could play with those 3 a bit, to learn what they "feel like".
Practical examples?
Play with what you see!
If you see lines on a whitish light on the walls, use your hand to "smooth" the lines out. Or use your fingers to "Pluck" those lines.
It's why you can use, "the wall". That's the whitish light landing on a surface, even an imagineary one, or even our palm, so that you have it in focus, and can "play with it".
I like to wiggle my fingers on a surface within reach, until it retunes the assemblage point to create sparkles. Then I can treat the sparkles as an object, stick my fingers inside the middle, and pull it open. As if it were a hole in space, which can be stretched open to make a window or doorway.
That reskims or fine tunes the assemblage ;oint, so that you can "look inside".
That moves the assemblage point again. Being both a "search", and also an attempt to use it as if it were real, you can end up seeing an entrance to another world.
Or a cartoon like video.
Or something phantom can be created, such as a magical goblet covered in jewels.
That can "fall out".
All three effects can be used, on "the wall".
But Shaman Parrot is too stupid to understand, so he'll just way, "Wiggle Fingers! Wiggle Fingers!! Wiggle Fingers!!!"
And destroy that valuable lesson. Pretty soon you'll have a whole crowd of fake sorcerers wiggling their fingers to "alter reality".
We really need to find a way to eject those guys faster, or shame them to suppress that behavior because they realize it won't get them attention, it will get them ridicule.
Darn. Got another "too much information" continuous seeing lesson on this topic.
I had it a bit wrong. Pretending falls into intending. It's a special category, but it's still intending.
The three forces to move yhour assemblage point very well in darkroom (besides outside ones like power spots, allies, caves, andd so on) are seeing, doing, and intending.
Tensegrity is designed with all 3 in mind.
Only a darkroom gazer would have noticed it at this point.
Seeing, because you are looking for anything cool in the darkness.
Seeing = using your senses, and not restricted to sight.
Doing, because the tensegrity passes move our body through what you are seeing.
Scooping puffs is a prime example. It's the "doing" of puffs. That you can play with them like little clouds of light that can be moved around.
But many more types of doings are possible. You can sing to them, as if they will responds. You can blow into them, as if they are storage containers for your breath energy.
The category of doing is VAST and subtle. A full on sorcerer needs only the tiniest gesture, to have a very strong "doing".
Keep in mind, the doings are all not-doings, because they're being done on something that isn't really there. Or you could say, because they're totally nuts. But you do them anyway.
Doings are merely not-doings that have come into style. If you take away all of the doings, the dark sea will go empty. No awareness in it.
And there's no longer any McDonalds. It just doesn't exist anymore.
We tend to like our McDonalds, so we think of it as "real", and unaffected by sorcery. But in fact, even solidity is a doing.
So in the dark room we gaze around, trying to see cool stuff. Sometimes we see a bunch of cool stuff, andd we tend to call it the "second attention fog". Or dreaming fog.
Fog implies, there's lots of tiny things to see in it. Even particle size is fine. Or smooth too. Smooth just becomes a large thing to see, like a surface.
Doing comes in next if you want to move your assemblage point to a useful X,Y point in space. Y is moving along the J curve, X is horizontal.
Seeing selects the Y point (how amazing the puffs are, for example).
Doing selects the X movement. Where horizontally, the thing you try to "do" with the puffs, is most vivid.
Again, the doing can merely be blowing into a puff.
Then comes intending.
What's the result? You saw something, you did something to it, now what happened as a result?
That's where you "recognize" that something did happen.
But what? Lowest level, you saw a vague little sparkle in the darkness, not really even anything worth mentioning, but you stuck your fingers in it, and wiggled them.
Or you blew into it.
You "did" something to it.
It gets brighter? yea, but you have to "recognize" that. It really didn't get brighter any more than it started to spin. Or it floated away and disappeared.
I suppose it might actually do something by itself, as in the casee of it was an inorganic being manifestation that was very dim. Then the doing adds energy, and the IOB can do something by itself.
But if it was just some sparkles, the most likely thing is, the sparkles got brighter.
Seeing vague sparkles, wiggling your fingers in it, gives rise to more seeing. Seeing that was "slightly" intended. You assumeed it would get brighter.
That's iteration #1.
Or, a single run of Pandora's Box pass! All this is contained in Parnora's Box.
So do iteration #2. you saw in #1, you wiggled, then you intended it got brighter.
Your seeing a brighter disturbance.
Blow into it. That's doing #2.
Intending #2 is that it got clumpy. It's a brither sparkle than you started with, but now it cracked all over, and you can visible see a larger crack in the middle.
Iteration #3 (and you'll be gone after that one!).
You see a cracked flurry of twinkles in the air.
You reach into the crack with your fingers, and with great effort (go slow), you rip the crack wider, and then finally pull it open. You pull it wide enough to zip through the hole, if you could fly.
Iteration #3 is done, and you have a portal.
You start iteration #4, but yhou never get to finish.
You gaze inside the portal to see, blank out, and slowly notice you are in another world and have been for a few seconds. Probably since you tried to gaze into the portal.
But what's in there? You saw, that activated a doing all by itself, and now is the intending part.
There's a woman sitting next to you, and she's speaking.
And it's real. No longer dark at all.
It seems that seeing gives rise to an idea of what can be "done".
Seeing leads to doing, and then intending arises when you expect a result.
But once you transfer though the portal, you see that things are now reversed.
It's the intending that caused the doing and seeing.
But I'm afraid I lost why that's so before I could type this.
I'll go back and look again.
But I missed one observation.
Tensegrity contains the seeing part when done in the dark, because you look for cool stuff.
And the tensegrity itself is the doing
But Carlos influenced our intending part, with his "back story" on what that pass means, is, or does. He was never specific, just gave us a direction.
Like "Stellar Hatch".
If that doesn't "taint" your intending, I don't know what would.
you could call it, "cow pie", but have it be the same movement, and instead of energy falling from space, you can imagine what would be intended by that new name.
I went back in to figure out that final point.
There's 2 ways to look at this.
Possibly the best is completely mechanical.
That eliminates pretending from the mix. Pretending is a very complex case of intending. It's river of shit stuff.
So from a mechanical point of view, this topic is really about J curve geometry.
Each reality you can assemble can be given an X, Y, and Z coordinate.
Y is the position along the J curve. Millimeters is probably good enough resolution.
Blue line is 0, but keep in mind, you can have negative values of Y. Sorcerers do that last. Stretch their cocoon into an infinite line by moving the assemblage point up from the blue, instead of down.
It takes you into the non-human unknown.
X is the horizontal position. The position in the cheese slice (band of man) usually, but you can move all the way around to the front, on the side. Dont have to move down only, to go back up to the front.
So the X position is best thought of as being along the outside of the shell, going horizontally. It's a curved axis. With 0 in the very center of Man's band (cheese slice).
The Y axis is no spring chicken either, in terms of it's shape.
It's J shaped, with a limit on the lower range, and no limit on the negative range.
Then there's Z.
If you specify an X,Y, you have the glow of awareness of the assemblage point covering a certain spot on the cocoon, and thus a certain range of emanations. Keep in mind, that the assemblage oint is a beam, so it passes through the whole egg, based on the spot along the outside.
But we can never even come remotely close to lighting up all of those emanations at that X, Y point.
It's going to be merely a "skimming of emanations".
Z is the skimming level.
Unfortunately, it's not a very straight axis. It doesn't move in space. It moves in compatible emanations. How, maybe we'll never know. But you cause some emanations to light up, and others to be ignored, and you have something like a haystack, which has some hay strands died orange, among the normally yellow ones.
That's the Z, the skimming. And worse, the axis through which it moves, may be determined by past humans who used that range. Latent intent.
If anyone uncovered the nature of that axis, they'd be so powerful we'd have to stay away from that person! They could possibly do anything they could think of, right on the spot.
Keep in mind, when you solve (specify) all 3 Axes, you leave this copy of reality.
You're in the other one. I'm not saying everything has to change. Your Z location is likely very close to your current Z, just out of habit. So you usually end up with a bizarre modification to your normal reality. A good example is shapeshifting, but you go outside to learn about your new form, and no one is around.
But it doesn't have to be a weird copy. It can be complety new.
Technically, you could visit your "wife" in another reality, have lunch, and come back to this reality.
I've now done this, so it's not speculation. Minus the lunch part.
I believe the problem to move further in knowledge, will be the Z axis.
We don't understand that one.
So the most dazzling magic would not be about moving your assemblage point to a specific spot. It would be about knowing what to perceive, when you get there.
Which emanations should be glowing and which should not.
The skimming. Of intent.
Which makes the most dazzling magic the result of the mastery of intent.
Two cases wee know of, to give credance to this idea.
The old seers who could emphasize IOB type emanations, and deactivate human ones, in order to live longer.
And, Julian changing his age on demand, by manipulating some emanations through the doing of the gate of power.
What use is all this to beginners?
Your enemy is fantasizing (the internal dialogue). it scatters intent in a vicious range that's like an endless circle, and holds your Y position. You have "control" over only 2 axes, and that control is driven by mental fantasies.
So you have to ditch the internal dialogue, to play this game.
Keep in mind, that means no fantasizing too.
That removed, and you have more control over where you focus your attention.
Second attention in this case, because it's absolutely pitch black dark.
You can focus your attention as a sort of beam, meaning, just gaze a certain direction and look for stuff.
Normal darkroom.
When you see stuff, you have selected a Y direction.
you can continue to just do that. Sit still, and keep looking for stuff. Not even trying to scoop puffs, or interact in any way.
If you can do that, you can move vertically faster.
But you won't be able to hold your attention focused unless you interact with what you see. The attention of a beginner is tied to "doing" just as much as seeing.
So for best results, do stuff with what you see. Don't just watch!
Play with what you see, even if it's still very vague. Wiggle fingers in it, blow into it. If you see a surface, pat it with your palm. Smooth it. Even sing to something to show it, you know it's separate from the other stuff.
Then while playing with stuff, when you get something unusually vivid (which is relative to how experienced you are, with beginners stuff not being very vivid at all), try to "recognize" what that vivid thing might be. Or might be doing.
Interpret what's going on, to gain control over the Z axis.
This probably doubles the speed at which you learn in darkroom.
But it uses up more dreaming energy. Dreaming "attention".
Or, the amount of sunlight glitter you stored today?
You can "chill" by skipping one or more of the control of the 3 axes.
Finally, once you set a full X, Y, Z location, it's likely that you change to the double.
He's the one who has a wife in some weird alternate universe.
That doesn't mean our organic body can't dematerialize while you are in the double.
Don Juan or Zuleica said it could.
But there's still some residue, from having taken a birth here.
I don't believe you can 100% relocate to another reality.
Thus the burning from within to wipe out all residues.
You lose the container, but the rolling force makes that inevitable anyway.
One interesting thing. As the assemblage point moves in a negative Y direction, the X axis range shrinks.
But does the Z also shrink? Likely it does.
The result would be a forced skimming that used a hither percentage of what was in focus. Where normally you might use .000001% of the emanations at a location, oncce the Y goes negative, you have to use a larger percent, to get a "realistic" perception.
Unless the width of the glow remains constant, in which case you would be sampling emanations outside your shell.
The possibilities of exploration regarding that topic, are beyond anything the books told us. They only hinted that is done by sorcerers.
Don’t quite know where to put this so I’ll put it here:
https://reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/t2lhsg/is_there_any_way_to_do_something_like_this_on_ae/
Adobe AfterEffects could be used to manipulate a Tensegrity Video, to visually portray second attention perceptions/interactions.
PERFECT!
I was planning to do that with the affection pass, but I keep running into cool new techniques, some of which are good to draw up, and can't seem to find the time to finish portraying that pass in still images, so it's easy to follow the cleargreen one precisely.
Jadey was going to make a video of it, once were were sure which version out there was correct.
Then I was going to add the effects to that, and maybe give it to enlightenment channel guy.
But I do practice it nearly daily, and it does indeed bring out the double.
Which is part of the problem.
Once the double comes to play, each day you discover even more amazing stuff you can do.
Which keeps you from the deep orange zone, where we all need to go, at least twice a week.
Otherwise you can get bogged down in the quagmire of practical magic.
Due to the embarrassing nature of this, it's likely to be taken down eventually. I'll get ahead of that...so here's the backup that someone else submitted in 2020: