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I wonder if there's an English speaking Castaneda's followers community in Germany, Berlin in particular.
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I wonder if there's an English speaking Castaneda's followers community in Germany, Berlin in particular.
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An in-person group?
There were multiple workshops held in Germany back in the 90's. And Cleargreen still holds the occasional seminar there, as I recall.
Germans like their native tongue so any current internet searches wouldn't yield complete results unless done in German.
Did you make it out of Ukraine?
Thank you for a German language search tip. Yes, I'm in Germany now and pretty much like being in Berlin. It's like a restarting a life, thinking a lot how to place accents in my life now. And Castaneda's teaching seems to be in first lines in my ratio.
Great to know that you made it out safely. Carry on! Magical Pass #12, 1st Video, 🤘🤘 (not exactly the same emoji, but you get the idea)
I'm sorry, where can I find that #12? Not sure if I can find it in local Wiki.
At 41:30
https://youtu.be/eiC3JKFYm4A
This.
Also, you may want to apply search operators so when you're searching for such things specifically, they can be filtered more easily by the search engine.
Such as typing "site:.de", so it'll being search results only from domains registered under .de which is the German internet code.
FYI Castaneda books where written in Spanish first, so the transitions of some of his books are not that accurate, also some of the Spanish books were translated from the English books that were already translated incorrectly. Basically, if you can find the original Spanish material and then actually get someone who can translate it properly, that could be good.
Not with anything worth learning. If it exists, it'll just be some bad player's attempt to become the leader of a sorcery group, without learning any actual sorcery.
If you want to learn the first thing you need is to realize, there are NOT naguals, potential teachers, or successful groups "all over the place".
There are bad people pretending, all over the place.
But no actual knowledge. Knowledge creates excitement, making it obvious where the real thing is going on.
I haven't seen any elsewhere.
Let's take discussion groups, like this one. All dead. Because there's nothing to discuss.
Bad men who came in here, tried to steal attention and got kicked out, have formed at least 6 other reddit groups. They all die and are empty, fairly fast. Because they have nothing to discuss other than each others pretending. A boring topic for sure. In the end all of those turn into one man hanging out waiting for someone to stumble into his dead group so he can manipulate them for attention.
Same for sorcery groups. No magic, no reason to keep meeting like that.
You'll make yourself a victim thinking like that. You have to do this yourself. You can't lean on another person.
There are of course, such groups for Buddhism, Daoism, and such.
And so, no one can fault you for thinking the normal process to learn is to find people who can teach, and even better if it's in person.
Joining a "Dzogchen", or "magick" group seems like common sense, and a good idea.
But that's because their magic is pretend.
Those are "pretending" groups.
Might as well take up "dungeons and dragons" role playing.
Real sorcery is TRAMATIC. A "real" group would be rippled to shreds in short time.
And in fact, only 1 in 100 will even actually put in effort to learn to try, and of those very few go on.
Between the words of don Juan, and our experiences in here, formation of an actual sorcery group is not possible.
At least, not yet.
And it's a misunderstanding to thing such things have existed in the past. They never did.
Such a thing is a produce of money. And business. Not real sorcery.
Hmmm.. sad to hear that. I don't expect meeting naguals, just people who are interested in warrior's path and would like to meet and chat in Berlin. I'm also a super lazy "practitioner", unfortunately. But I still believe that communication/community generates energy, so I'm looking for co-thinkers. Hoping at some point gathering people will make at least some sense/change.
Germans are some of the worst for being bad player pretenders.
Americans like to think everyone is the same all over the world.
That's the "melting pot" illusion.
And also most of what makes the "ugly american" syndrome, where they go into a new country and expect everyone to behave as they do.
Any country with an actual long history, and the same type of people living there a long time, has "quirks" natural to that population.
For example, Cholita told me that ALL mexican men beat their wives. And not to listen to anyone who claims differently.
I've seen that in Thailand too. Where most of the bar girls were married at 15, their husbands beat them, so they're in the bars for foreigners, looking for husbands.
Here, beating your wife is sort of frowned on. Husband beating, that's ok.
Ask Cholita.
But there's no taboo on that sort of activity in a place like Thailand, where until recently women were sold as slaves in the market.
Germany tends to make fake sorcerers who are very "convincing". Or "Intellectual". "Dynamic", "Charismatic" leader types.
Let's take my counterpart, Felix.
Carlos paired me off with Felix and Corey for some tasks.
But everyone knew, Felix was eager to write a book. He stood out like a sore thumb in private classes.
His questions were usually "what's in it for me?"
When Carlos died, Felix did in fact write his book. Stole the title from Carlos so people would make the association, and then created his own "replacement technique", which he tried to sell.
It was nonsense Hinduism, which does absolutely nothing magic.
Then he went on tour explaining how "Carlos went bad".
Meaning, follow Felix now.
You're in a particularly bad country to look for what you want.
And even if it could actually exist, that would not be where you'd find any.
Maybe Finland...
But you can't learn sorcery these days, if you don't "do it yourself".
And it's never been taught the way you're thinking.
In the Olmec times, children were given to seers.
For life.
When that civilization was destroyed, sorcerers formed lineages.
Those only select members based on "energetic type", and omens.
And they would NEVER be visible on the web, or try to sell lessons.
They have MAGIC!! No need for other people. Their only drive is to copy themselves, so their knowledge isn't lost.
And it takes an entire group of 15 or so to be able to teach a specific person.
In a group setting that's just not possible.
All we're doing in here is seeing who can teach themselves.
Anything else will fail.
But one of these days, we'll have the power to meet up in dreaming.
Then, if you can find the place, you can join!
Women do need some of that togetherness vibe though.
We haven't gotten it right yet.
Here's my guess.
Because women need it more, they're more likely to find it.
So we need to "dangle" it in front of their nose.
For real though, not pretend.
Phantom realms we can share would do the job.
It's like a "cool kids club".
Women are more likely to figure out how to get into the "cool kids club" than men.
Men will just start their own, even if it's empty.
Hey u/danl999 you were in his classes in the 90s. Have you ever kepted in touch with anyone else from the classes and tried inviting them to this group?
I am nore than sure that they can easily be located mote easier in 2022 than in 1995.
You aren't actually studying in here, or you'd know the answer.
They all quit. Angry too!
I've tried everyone I have contact for.
You need to stop hanging out. Either learn, or go away.
Or perhaps lurk.
But don't "participate"!
And don't use my user id in your comment, to force me to "acknowledge" you.
That would be fine if it were only you.
But how many like yourself could this place tolerate, posting stuff that isn't actually helpful?
And how come you don't see that?
Too selfish to notice the overall situation? How desperate things have become, for the teachings of don Juan. Almost lost!!!
There was a somewhat important person I expected to peek in here this week.
I looked at the posts, and you had one.
One they would have looked at, and assumed this place is like all others.
Just pretending.
Inorganic beings seem to be the best teachers, they teach in an obscure way atleast from our state of "normal awareness" and it's not something that can provoke language to explain the process as it unfolds.
Time can equate to wisdom, would you rather learn from a human with an over inflated ego and dubious intentions? Or, an ancient being who has an understanding of the fabric of the "world" and how it can be directed towards any ends? (Intent)
It's the difference between a highly polished professional who has absolute mastery versus someone pretending, in most cases for their own personal interest/gain.