I immediately apologize for the mistakes, as I write through Google translator, because I do not speak English.
I would like to share with you my experience of entering another world without losing awareness, as it usually happens to everyone when falling asleep.
So. To obtain such a result, we will need to fulfill a number of necessary conditions.
First. You need to find a place where for three months no one will come to you, no one will call you, and nothing will distract you. The phone, laptop, any gadget, any newspaper or magazines, anything through which you can get any information are completely excluded. Complete isolation from the outside world. For example, in my case, I bought a house in a mountain village, where no one bothered me for three years. But in our case, in order to get the desired result, you need 2-3 months of isolation.
Second. You need to draw on paper or canvas or a wall, the next drawing is not complicated, preferably large, at least 30x40 cm, preferably 60x120, and more.
I attach my example of a drawing below (figure 1)
For a sense of depth and perspective, you can add elements like in the picture below.
(Figure 2)
When you draw the eye, pay attention to drawing the spiral and dots on it. It is very important.
When you complete the drawing, move on to the next step.
Now you should sit down in front of your drawing every day and look at it for as long as possible. In my case, it was several approaches for an hour, for 2 hours, for 3 hours or more, during the day. Your task is to learn how to visualize this drawing to the smallest detail with your eyes closed. At the same time, so that you can see with your inner vision each point on the spiral. These are not so much points as nodes. And when drawing these knots, try to draw them each, not like the previous one. And so, when visualizing with your eyes closed, you must learn to remember and see each node on the spiral. That is, at this stage you should look at this drawing for so long until you learn to see it clearly and continuously with your eyes closed.
In my case, it took me about a month and a half. It may take you less or more time. Each person is individual.
The next step is when you learn how to visualize this drawing with your eyes closed for as long as you like, the next thing you need to do is find the "exact axis - direction". Now I will explain.
By trial and error, by experiment, I found out that in each person there is his "axis-direction to open the door to another dimension." It is individual for everyone. This "axis-direction to open the door to another dimension" is your body position in space. In my case, this is the direction of the head to the southwest. You will have yours. To find out your "axis-direction to open the door to another dimension", you must lie with your head to the north. Close your eyes, visualize your drawing. Then, looking at it with inner vision, go along the nodes of the spiral from the outer edge to the center of the pupil. Slowly go with your inner vision in a spiral along each node in it. If nothing happens, then change the position with your head to the northeast, and do the same, then head to the east, southeast, etc. in a circle ending in the northwest.
If we look at the compass
we will see that we have 8 directions. One of them is your individual and we need to find it. And the fact that you have learned to visualize this drawing will help us find your direction. And the following will happen. As soon as you lie down with your head in your direction and start moving along the nodes of the spiral of the eye, then at the moment when you approach the center of the eye, a glow will appear in the center of the eye and you will be instantly drawn into it. At that very moment you will see yourself standing in an unfamiliar world.
Here and below I am already describing my experience, but I think a similar experience and you can experience and survive if you follow the procedure that I described above.
So I will describe what is happening in that world into which you will learn to instantly enter in this way. In my case, it was a world of flat, boundless space, with matte light, with small, barely distinguishable foggy vapors from underground. As in our world when you try to look at yourself, so when you try to look at yourself, you will see something like your arms and legs, but only as luminous limbs, in my case a white-yellowish glow. like the very body of the same glow.
From now on, as soon as you first find your "axis-direction" and as soon as you first get into that other dimension, from that moment on you will be able to get there at any time of the day and as many times as you like. At the same time, without losing awareness at all. For you, it will be like entering the next room. The awareness of where you were a second ago before entering and where you are now after entering is not interrupted.
Also, from that moment on, as you learn how to enter the other world in this way, the need for sleep disappears completely. It's like you don't sleep anymore and you never want to sleep again. Vice versa. Every time you return from that world to ours, you are overwhelmed with energy and feel as if you had a good night's sleep and rest. But you don't sleep at all anymore and you don't need to sleep. And you will have to get used to the new way of life. If in ordinary life we are used to living like that, we are awake during the day, and at night we sleep being in oblivion, at best seeing chaotic, absurd dreams. Then in the new reality that will open up to you when you master the above technique, the desire to sleep, and the very concept of sleep will simply disappear, as if you will be awake in an endless cycle, not interrupted by forgetfulness and loss of awareness, as it always happens with people in ordinary life .
What points would i like to highlight? At first, when you get into that world in this way, you will be as if chained to one place, not knowing how to move in that world, this is not scary. Over time, you will learn to move around there. In my case, more than 6 ways of moving in that world were opened to me. Also, at first, you will not know how to return to our world. This is also not scary, since at first you will be thrown back into our world automatically and after a very short time. But as you visit that world more often, you will stay there longer and longer and you yourself will be able to choose the moment of returning to our world.
Also, another interesting feature of such visits to that world is that when you return to our world, your body and face continue to glow with white light, and this glow is visible to people. Some people think that you are smeared with phosphorus or are simply afraid of you.
Another feature of such visits is the complete lack of appetite after returning from there, even if you were there for several days. There is no need for food. In fact, you have to force-feed yourself, because you quickly lose body weight, but you do not feel any discomfort. On the contrary, you are overwhelmed with energy and saturation after each such return from that dimension.
You can ask any questions, I will try to answer them.
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hmmm
Why would you want to do this? Is there something to do in this created world?
The axis is interesting. How did you figure out people have different axis?
Sounds like you spent a long time learning some silence and focus not to mention bit of intent.
But to what end? Not sleeping?
Are you saying this gives you lots of energy, makes you loose weight, dont have to eat, dont feel pain...?
Sounds like one of those amulets you can buy at 2am on the spanish tv channel that do everything. But they make you rich as well and get the hot chics.
Are you still in Kyiv? Sorry to hear about all the problems over there right now.
To his credit, as far down as I have the patience to scroll in his reddit history, he doesn't seem to be swimming in any Hindu or Taoist swamps.
A bit interested in UFOs and Aliens perhaps.
But since those turn out to be real lately, it's hard to find fault with that.
I declare him, "fairly unique" in the history of this subreddit.
Ukrainian too it seems. Or perhaps Russian.
I never did understand why the Russians hate Ukrainians.
I tried asking in super cold Evonova, but it's not a good question to ask in a mafia owned Sauna.
If the wives find out, you'll end up in an Ukranian restaurant having to eat Blood pie.
Or Blood something.
"I never understood why Russians hate Ukrainians."
I will try to answer your question. I myself was born and lived in the Caucasus, in a mountainous place, in the south of Russia, on the border with Abkhazia and Georgia. After 40 years, already moved to Ukraine and stayed there. Therefore, as if I can see two points of view, two mentalities, Russians and Ukrainians, I can draw conclusions based on what I heard and saw while living in both countries. And here is my answer.
The fact is that in terms of welfare and education, Ukraine is, of course, many orders of magnitude higher than Russia. While in Russia everything is only getting worse, wages are going down, the quality of education is low, the quality of medicine is low, corruption is very high and social inequality is very low, the morality of society itself, and services are very low. A sales associate in a store can swear at you and this will be the norm. There is not a day that you don't see how people constantly swear and fight on the bus, in the city, while people seem to be indifferent to others. If a person has lost consciousness, then passers-by will take off his hat and coat if it is in winter, but no one will call an ambulance and help. There are a lot of alcoholics and just drinkers. At one time I lived in a village that was completely drunk. You go home from work like that, and you see there lies drunk in a puddle, a little further there lies, you still go and there lies drunk in the mud. That's the level in Russia, I myself observed. And in Ukraine, everything is exactly the opposite.
The people there are very friendly and responsive. If someone falls, they will immediately pick him up and help him. I absent-mindedly left my purse stuffed with money and cards in public places twice, and hours later when I returned it was in place and no one took anything for themselves. There are a lot of educated people here in Ukraine. At a very high level of medicine and service. In Ukraine, a comedian can become president. the clown, as he does not hesitate to call himself Zelensky, and in Russia there is a dictatorial police regime, and the tsar rules there forever, who is either not overthrown or will not die a natural death.
Why did Russia decide to attack Ukraine, you ask, if they themselves have so many problems?
First of all, here you need to understand that Russia is not Putin. The Russians were not going to attack anyone. They are too lazy a nation to gather something there. The decision to attack Ukraine was in the mind of only one man, Putin, their adored czar. In 2014, when there was a change of power in Ukraine, and the country had not yet re-elected a new president, taking advantage of this moment, Putin invaded Crimea and seized it, appropriating someone else's Ukrainian territory.
At the same time, his pro-Russian agents and employees, who deeply infiltrated the state structures of the Ukrainian government, such as Strelkov-Girkin, staged a coup in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine, where Russian troops then began to arrive en masse and take part in the battles against Ukraine, with thus denying its presence there. For 8 years they fired at the Ukrainian units in those areas, but they trumpeted to the whole world that it was the Ukrainians who were so bad shelling supposedly civilians. Well, after 8 years of such a hybrid war, Putin decided to completely attack and seize all of Ukraine. Therefore, the first most severe blow was aimed at capturing the capital, Kyiv. In the first day alone, about 120 Russian sabotage groups aimed at the destruction of President Zelensky were neutralized in the Kyiv region.
At the same time, rocket and bomb attacks were launched on all border cities, including Kyiv. Some cities were destroyed to the ground. But you ask why would he attack again? Putin's rating from such a terrible life that is happening in Russia is flying to zero, and in order to somehow distract society from the hopelessness into which he has turned Russia, he creates an external enemy so that society unites around the king. Here it should also be noted that during the 20 years of Putin's rule, he created a very powerful propaganda machine that brainwashed the Russians every day, that NATO wants to attack poor Russia, that NATO wants to destroy us with sanctions, that NATO wants to place its bases in Ukraine where I am ruled by some neo-Nazis, etc. And people listening to these nonsense for 20 years begin to believe in it. The low morale and morale of the Russians pushes them to go to war as fascists only to rape someone, steal something and mail it to themselves or their wife, and in the hope that they will be paid the promised amount for participating in the war. It's like in Tolkien's books, such classic orcs.
And when these orcs capture cities, villages and see how Ukrainians lived and live, they are shocked at how much the standard of living and well-being is higher here. And they start stealing everything, toilets, washing machines, TVs, hair dryers, even women's panties. And on the walls they write - "For the fact that you live better."
Here is the answer to your question
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Wait, a woman?
Or "purse" was a translation for another type of object?
If a woman, ignore all of my responses. Women can go any way they like. The main thing is for them to decide to move, and to find a pocket of people they trust.
If not, if male, then please do go away. There's nothing for you in this subreddit.
But thanks for explaining the Russian/Ukrainian anger.
Makes sense.
Speaking of Ukrainians, I have actually recently acquired a very peculiar and beautiful 1980s soviet-era astronautic watch from a seller before the onset of the war. It has no adscititious anti-reflective coating, and, even more interestingly, due to the one-of-a-kind curvature innate to the acrylic glass, seems to refract all incoming light in a very idiosyncratic manner.
It has four (instead of 8) directional indices very similar to the compass pictured above, and is completely brazen in case construction, with unevenly speckled dots spanning the entirety of the dark bluishly patterned dial - that I presume are meant to be representative of stars.
It also “supposedly” has some sort of astrological significance, with the hour and minute hand being circumnavigating circles symbolic of Jupiter's 12 year long trek around the sun - but personally, astrology seems utter bunk to me, so I find that portion of the design irrelevant. Anyways, the guy was weirdly very eager to sell it to me - completely cheap as dirt too.
My question is:
Are the qualities of this watch conducive to daytime gazing?
I’ve already seen morphing faces and little scenes inside the thing, but I don’t know if this delves into “off” path territory.
I can send you a picture if you’d like.
Whatever actually works is fine.
There's no rules about "off path".
We only get antsy about that in here, because it usually means someone is only seeking attention, and trying to not have to do any real work.
It's also very easy to get "Buddhist" by mistake. That's sort of the same topic.
Buddhists have absolutely no magic. Neither did the Buddha.
Just some crummy effects you can get jogging, or with shamanic drums.
So they have to make up other "signs of progress".
Such as becoming saintly, or "getting rid of your ego".
Naturally, they have no idea what the ego is!
It's just a "meditation police" situation, subject to the whims of whoever happens to be the police that day.
In fact, you can't get to the deep orange zone if you retain any idea of a "self".
So as long as there's real magic, saintliness is irrelevant.
My guess is, the old seers were bastards.
And we're trying to copy them.
So whatever works.
However, no one who asks that type of question has managed to learn anything real, so far.
It's not a "good sign".
monkeyguy999
As promised, I answer all the questions asked in this thread.
I answer your questions.
Why I wanted to do this has already been written in the answer above to a person with the nickname danl999.
Your second question is what will they do in that world?
Don't know. At a certain moment, after a week of daily visits to that world, a "guide" appeared behind my back, a certain voice that began to teach me how to move in that world and what passes I need to do there in order to concentrate and collect energy in that world. It is interesting that mankind learned about magical passes or tensegrity only a few decades later. But this guide taught me the magical passes in that world. And I want to note that when three decades later Castaneda published a book describing magical passes, I studied all these passes, but there was not one of them in which there would be the same movements that my guide taught me in that world. Although I think that Castaneda did not publish those passes that were performed by the shamans of ancient Mexico, which, by the way, he himself wrote about in his book on tensegrity. Namely, that Tensegrity is already modified passes adapted to the modern person, and it took him 7 years to change these passes along with 3 chacmools. So we will probably never know what the real passes of the ancient shamans looked like, which, for example, were performed by don Juan's group and before him.
Your next question is How did you figure out people have different axis?
People are not street lampposts facing the same direction. My observations of those of my friends who are also practitioners of Castaneda led me to the conclusion that people have different directions - exit points to other spaces, judging by the directions in which each of them prefers to go into dreams. But so far, none of them could repeat the practice that I described.
Everyone gives up at the visualization stage. It takes the unbending intention to spend many hours each day visualizing until it is imprinted in your inner vision. And so far no one from my environment can afford it. Because no one has such an opportunity at all in our time to hide from the world in the wilderness and spend months of complete isolation there.
Your next comment and question.
It sounds like you've spent a lot of time learning about silence and focus, not to mention intent. But for what purpose? Don't sleep?
Answer.
I wrote a partial answer to this remark above in the answer to a person with the nickname danl999
And I'll add a little more. I did not so much want to spend time studying silence and concentration, but by myself, by my nature, the structure of my personality, I love loneliness and silence. That is, I did not spend anything and did not strain. And I had no intention of not sleeping. The discovery that I can no longer sleep in our usual understanding of the word occurred after the first visits to that world and subsequent ones. And this is more of a side effect than an achievement if you have a nostalgia for dreams, ordinary dreams. It’s just that you don’t sleep anymore, but stay 24 hours a day constantly in a waking state from day to day, from night to night, from month to month, constantly continuously, and this at first causes rather discomfort, because we are people, we want forget for a while, lose control, switch off. This is our need to which we are accustomed from birth. And when she suddenly disappears, it starts to scare us.
Following your comment and questions
Are you saying it gives you a lot of energy, helps you lose weight, doesn't need to eat, doesn't feel pain...?
I did not write about insensitivity to pain. The pain is felt as always.
It's true about weight and appetite. Absolutely nothing want to eat or even drink. Every time I returned from there, I was overwhelmed with a feeling of an overabundance of energy and saturation, and I didn’t want to eat anything. By this, I mean that I am losing body weight catastrophically. Therefore, this is most likely also a side effect of this practice.
Your next joking remark is "Sounds like one of those amulets you can buy at 2am on a Spanish TV channel.."
I answer. If someone had told me before, or if I had read somewhere that you can just enter another dimension just like that, in a second, then I would never, never, never believe in it. Because I am a very big skeptic as a person. And as a person, I don’t believe much at all, but I always try to check everything in practice. And it was the practices, not only of the experience described above, but also of the subsequent esoteric ones, that helped me to believe and make sure from my own experience that magical things are next to us. We're just afraid to even taste it.
And your last question - are you still in Kyiv?
Yes, I’m in Kyiv, and in the first hours when Russia attacked our country, I went to the military enlistment office and signed up as a volunteer, but they didn’t take me because of my age and health, but I still hope that they will take me to the front, and I’m ready to die defending my country from the aggressor.
How did you learn this?
Edit: There are some other aspects to your post which suggest you are a "bad player," but I guess only time will tell. As others have alluded to, it would be nice if you to elaborate somewhat, so others understand better where you are coming from and the context. That said, what's really interesting to me are several things you mention in common with Castaneda's practices.
Separating yourself from your familiar circumstances for a sustained period of time. Don Juan obviously mentions this several times to all the apprentices. That is known to have a beneficial effect for inner-silence/sorcery because it frees up time and energy literally and energetically.
Circular gazing. Circular gazing is a very effective inner silence practice, in dark room and elsewhere. The cool drawing is not as critical, I don't think, but the use of circular gazing until you perceive some sight of the second attention, is a desired result and an hour or more seems appropriate. This is highly reminiscent of an exercise Taisha is taught, that involves "drawing a pleasing shape" where the example is a circle and to trace it with the eyes. Then trace the circle by rolling the eyes, then "jump with the eyes into the center". Sounds effectively identical to what you are describing.
Memorizing something visually well enough to be able to see it when it is not in front of you, is also reminiscent of a technique taught to Taisha Abelar, but she did that with candle flame gazing. It was presented to her as a way to focus the mind and balance oneself.
Finding one's direction. This is a fairly important topic in the books though it was never clear to me how you'd know that without a sorcerer that can see. This seems like possibly a working ritual for that? I don't know what to make of it at the moment, but it's interesting.
Nonetheless, I think in your circumstances, it would be ideal for you to add dark room practice, or dreaming-awake, to what you already do. It's such a great tool. You just get total darkness, sleep masks work fine, keep your eyes open and sober and just get silent inside. With what you are already doing, you could probably see puffs pretty quickly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/ifu1bv/darkroom_practice
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/aki0db/how_to_see_energy_in_3_weeks
Please check out the wiki!!!! So many more practices that can aid you.
https://reddit.com/r/castaneda/w/index
Hansky
Based on your first commentary, I would like to immediately clarify the following.
What I practiced was a very long time ago. It does not mean that I have this ability now. Later I can explain the reasons for this. About Castaneda. Here is a very interesting point. Thanks to the results of this practice and my other visions in life, I soon became interested in Castaneda's books. And then they were not produced in our country. And my friend brought them from Germany, and here we translated them and printed them for ourselves in one or two copies. But that was later. But having re-read his books 20 or more times each, I don’t remember that there was anything similar to what I described in the post. In that world, a voice guide taught me various passes, but the magical passes only became known in 1995, that is, decades after my experience with them.
Now, in order, according to your comments on the points.
- I'm sorry, but I need to call my wife, child, parents, work, etc.
- I'm sorry, I can't disappear even for a week.
- I'm sorry my friend's wedding is in a month, my dad has a birthday, he will be offended if I don't come ...
In general, there is a wagon and a small cart for reasons. All people today.
Therefore, I was just lucky to be born where I was born, in such conditions, at that time of little information, without any obligations to anyone, with the opportunity to leave and live in the forest, in the mountains for as long as you like.
At that time, I did not know about the books of Castaneda, and Taisha released her first book, I think, in 1992.
But here I would like to stop here at what moment.
Revisiting my experience in my memories every time, I ask myself the same question - how did I even get the idea to do all this? I mean all the step by step steps of this practice. And I come to the conclusion that everything I did and how I prepared for it, all this was dictated to me by someone, someone whom I did not realize, did not see or hear. In some non-verbal way.
I remember reading about the flame of a candle from Taisha.
Find directions. I partially answered this in a reply to a comment by danl999 and in a reply by monkeyguy999
That is, I repeat by trial and error, slowly rotating the body in eight directions of light. But in my case, as far as I remember, I found my direction on the fourth attempt. Then I checked other directions, but then there was no exit to that dimension. And there was either hanging in a white clean space in a horizontal position, or oblivion.
Thank you for the links and advice.
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Well this one is unique!
Haven't really run into this situation before.
I'm trying to become an expert on what sort of magic is out there, whether it's true, and why people cling to it.
We're trying to get more to practice our own form, which is the only real form I'm aware of. So we like to learn what people are thinking, when they get sucked into the pretend forms.
You left out the details that might allow us to figure out if you are making up stuff.
Such as, why did you do this?
Just thought of it one night?
So you did all that you claim?
Or did you read it somewhere?
Show us where.
Do you realize that the ancient Olmec spent thousands of years exploring in the manner you claim to be doing? At least hundreds of them at the same time constantly, maybe thousands of them (sorcerers), for what might be 8000 years. Continuously.
It's the only known "old magic" left on the planet. At least, that one can view on the internet.
They did that without money or agriculture having been invented yet, and no formal written language.
Meaning they didn't make it up, the way Buddhism and Hinduism are made up to get money.
There was absolutely no motivation for pretending their magic.
And their magic is of a nature that "pulls you" to duplicate what they did, if you just stick to their path.
Some of them even show up to help you! In person.
And we don't have to pretend ourselves that all this happened.
The way other systems make up a bogus history.
It's all in the archaeological record. It's posted in here if you care to study this history.
The Olmecs gave rise to virtually all mesoamerican shamanism.
So the results of their doings from long ago are right there to see all over Mexico.
And the beings themselves, the old seers, are also available for us to meet.
They come to visit for real!
We know what it leads to in its pure form, because we're doing it in here.
And it's vastly more interesting than where your technique leads.
Also, your claims of no food or a glowing face sound kind of like Hindu or Daoist pretend magic stories.
Like you're actually doing something you read about, but not being upfront with us.
Fact is, it's of no use in here. Not even particularly impressive if it were true.
It's a dead end.
I don't suppose you'll be able to sell it anywhere else though, because they'll simply dismiss it as made up.
We can't quite do that, because we do things that weird daily for hours. And no one believes us either.
But this doesn't "smell right" to me.
I hope you suck off a few people to go try to learn what you're doing. Somewhere else.
We don't need people who lack sobriety in here.
If they come back excited, maybe it'll be worth a second examination.
If I were to simply believe you, and there seemed to be some value to it (there doesn't), then why shouldn't I follow Jesus instead?
His followers claim he did magic too.
And his sounds like more fun. Command of 10,000 angels!
Or I suppose I could believe Yogananda. I'd love to be able to do all the stuff in his books! His people "glow" too.
Except, he never taught a single person to do any of it.
Just sucked up cash and women, died, and left his palace in Los Angeles to one of his lovers.
Have you taught anyone this, and where are they?
Good rule for you to learn, even if you really can do what you say.
Never listen to a single man making magical claims.
Insist on seeing excited students. Who are openly sharing tips on how to learn faster, for real.
Otherwise, if there's no actual students to observe, and someone thinks what you say sounds possible, disregarding it's only your word, I'd still advise to pretend to be Jesus.
You get cooler super powers.
Firstly, all these described events took place many years ago, at a time when people did not know what the Internet, mobile phone, etc. were. because those things didn't exist yet. The experience I describe refers to the 70s. And the Internet first appeared only in 1991, and in my area after 1996. In the same years, the first mobile push-button phones appeared for the first time. Why am I pointing this out? Because there is a very big difference between the mentality of a person today and a person before the technological explosion. Just imagine yourself in my place at that time. You bought a house in the mountains, or rather not even a house, but a dilapidated hut in the forest, far from civilization. Nobody calls you and you can neither see nor read anything, because there is nothing in your hut. But you have an innate desire to learn, discover new things, admire the sunset in the evenings, walk through the night forest, look at the stars, the moon for hours, lying in a clearing. During the day you collect medicinal herbs, with books on herbs you study every blade of grass you find, many you try yourself and monitor the effect on your body. In warm weather, you climb high into the mountains and spend a lot of time sleeping in trees, in caves, in the mountains in open space. If you want, I can show you my photos of those places that I photographed myself, though a year later, when I got a camera. Imagine all this that I described. Tell me, can a person today understand a person with the mentality of that time? Today people are hostages of the most unthinkable temptations and depravity. Almost from the cradle, children buried in their gadgets become addicted to these toys for life, spending almost all their time looping short doses of various and often unnecessary and unnecessary information, clogging their inner space and mind.
Imagine that you were born in my time and ended up in the conditions that I described above, where there is no temptation and no information from the outside, so to speak, civilized world. But you have an innate desire to understand the meaning of life, to discover something new that you did not know before.
Now I can answer your question - why did I do it?
I did many things that I did in my life without understanding why I do them and how I came to that at all.
For example, at one time seeing some person, I had an irresistible desire to draw on a sheet something incomprehensible even to me, as if I saw in this or that person a certain configuration that I wanted to fix and study, and I had a whole stack of such works. At times I could neither eat nor sleep until I painted a certain picture that I did not think and did not intend to paint. The same applies to this picture with the eye. Having drawn it on a large sheet, I had it for more than a year. And then one day I spontaneously had a desire to look at it every day and I looked, until months later I noticed that I could see this picture with my eyes closed as clearly and clearly as with my eyes open. As soon as I learned to see it also spontaneously, I began to look for directions on how to lie down correctly. The fact is that if I lay down with my head to the west, then at night my body lifted above the bed and began to rotate physically, which caused severe discomfort. The position of the head to the east excluded such lifting of the body above the bed and rotation, but it caused the arrival of certain personalities who once lived on earth in my room, which also caused me discomfort in the end. That is, each direction entailed one effect or another. Through trial and error, I found that the southwest direction is ideal for me in terms of neutrality in all respects. And it is in lying down in this direction that if I visualize the movement of the eye in a spiral to the center of the pupil, then in a second I am drawn into it and I always find myself standing in that other dimension, always in the same world, sufficiently illuminated by a matte light, with a strange a rarefied atmosphere that you can feel, with light evaporation from under the surface on which you stand.
Your second question - Or did you read it somewhere?
As far as I know, what I described has never been described anywhere, except for the forum dedicated to the works of Castaneda, where I described it, but described it in my own language and, as far as I know, this forum was closed almost immediately and my description disappeared there. For some reason, Internet history saved only my sketch.
Your third question, or rather the remark "..that the ancient Olmec spent thousands of years.."
I understand that the Olmecs and Toltecs spent thousands of years mastering and developing their practices, but we must also recognize that they all started from somewhere, from something when they still could not do anything. If we remember the words of Castaneda where he talked about how the magical passes first appeared, what we call Tensegrity today, then they also started from scratch, from the first movements they created that brought them to a new level of evolution of their physical and energy bodies. That is, at first there was an effect, a result, which they later developed further.
My described experience is only the beginning, teleporting you to another "station" of the universe or maybe another dimension of our world. And then the years of its development are already leaving and what can be done with it.
Your fourth comment. You doubt or rather compare the effect of a luminous body after leaving that world to ours, hinting at a forgery on my part, as far as I understand, in order to have an effect on readers.
Not at all. From what I write here there is no benefit for me, no advertising, not even my name and surname, nor my data. I'm old enough to be trying to seduce someone here for a date or something.
My experience described here does not underestimate the achievements and experience of the Olmecs or Toltecs. Remember don Juan's words. There are thousands if not millions of paths to freedom.
Next, you write that you don't think I can sell my experience to anyone else.
I repeat. I did not intend and do not intend to sell anything or downplay anyone's experience. I just described my experience. Can you blame me for this? Only because my experience may differ from other experience or from experience that others consider to be the only correct one.
go away
Audition elsewhere.
You aren't useful for preserving this magic. If you think you found some and it's valuable, go teach it.
But don't piss on this place.
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