What is happening to me?

Lately I’ve been in a strange place, it’s like reality is crumbling a little more by the day. I’m not sure how to deliver my exact feelings and thoughts on this at all right now, but lately I’ve been taking a little more time out to workout and dance and things of that nature to take my mind of the weird shit in life, I haven’t practiced Darkroom Gazing in a while, the most practice I’ve had in a while is when I go outside and stare at trees and other shit. That’s about all I’ve been doing lately, so obviously that means that I’m slacking and there shouldn’t be any growth here. Why do I keep seeing blue sparkles? I mean before they didn’t pop up at all, but lately these past 2 weeks they’ve been slowly increasing. I just saw 2 in the shower like 15 minutes ago. I don’t know what it means but Carlos said he saw one on his deathbed and I’m not gonna lie, it has me shook a little bit. I don’t think I’m gonna die, but without any sense of direction right now, I feel like my Double just roaming the infinite worlds. Lost as hell. And that is the one thing that scares me the most. And these blue sparkles ain’t exactly helping. Any ideas as to why they keep poppin up? Or has intent decided to fuck with me a bit? 🤣 no but seriously, it has me a little concerned, I just wanna know if maybe I’m overreacting. Btw I am not as new as my acccount says, it’s u/thephantommagician but I lost that account a while ago.

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u/HeiruRe777 11 points 2022-06-14 16:50

I can't say what is happening to you, as each person's development is somewhat unique. I started to see sparks, grids, webs, floating neon snake like creatures, the sky came alive with moving energy, trees have an aura of green/yellow fire, etc. You are changing my friend. Embrace it.

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u/USS_TOADBOI 2 points 2022-06-15 02:32

Wow. For as long as I can remember, things always looked as if they were vibrating slightly like I saw the motion of atoms. Could that be the energy that I'm seeing?

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u/JaegerBourne 2 points 2022-06-15 03:10

You've seen what looked like atoms floating and orbiting each other???

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u/USS_TOADBOI 2 points 2022-06-15 03:23

Sorry bad description. More like a transparent static. Like this but transparent and overlayed over what I see around me.

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u/JaegerBourne 2 points 2022-06-15 03:37

I've seen energy that looks like atoms, sort of like a plasma lamp of sorts. Like when you mentioned atoms, I was like someone else has seen that exact energy!

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u/USS_TOADBOI 3 points 2022-06-15 03:58

Just looked up what a plasma lamp was… it’s exactly like that but super faint. That’s cool to know that someone else sees that. I thought something was wrong with my vision

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u/JaegerBourne 2 points 2022-06-15 04:00

🤣🤣🤣 like I know that everyone here sees things, but the descriptions are always all over the place. Finally someone sees the same shit I do. And yes its super faint for me too.

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u/the-mad-prophet 3 points 2022-06-16 01:15

u/JaegerBourne and u/USS_TOADBOI are you talking about Visual Snow? I also have it. It seems some people have it since birth and for other people it just starts to happen at some point in their life.

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u/USS_TOADBOI 2 points 2022-06-16 01:23

sounds about right

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u/JaegerBourne 2 points 2022-06-16 01:49

Idk what visual snow is, never heard that term. I've seen it since I was a kid, lately when I unwind and clear my mind I see them.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2022-06-16 10:04

I just googled it and it seems what I see too. I thought it was my " light sensitivity" for years.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2022-06-15 08:42

I see atoms like sparkles jumping around too and energy or whatever it is like a plasma lamp you mentioned, its lightenings are white and moving sort of like a plasma lamp but towards the centrer that is also white. The space where the lightenings move it's dark and gives a bubbly feeling which is the first I see and then I observe the rest.

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u/JulyAitee 2 points 2022-06-15 02:42

I've come to understand this as our species first step into intelligent infinity.

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u/hanskey 3 points 2022-06-14 17:01

I think your IOBs are trying to get you practicing again, by getting nice and visible, but that's just my guess.

Sounds like you didn't really fully quit, just changed up your mix of practices.

I'd wondered where you'd disappeared to. Welcome back phantom magician!

IOBs still leaving your girl alone at this point?

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 7 points 2022-06-14 17:38

I couldn’t tell you as of late, she probably just ignores them like all the rest to the point where she has come back to the regular state of mind of subconsciously ignoring IOBs. And as for my disappearance, things took a turn on many different factors in my life and there was a multitude of reasons why I didn’t show my face around here, but the main one was, I genuinely felt like I did not deserve to be here at the time. Had to fix some things wrong with me, and no this isn’t a pity party, I’m just a REALLY weird fucking person who has really weird problems. But all in all, it feels good to be back home officially. I’ve of course still been stalking around the reddit, I was never gonna quit, I’m just a scared bitch at times when they start talking to me. I panicked the last time the mf called me a gatekeeper or some weird shit. The radio signal type stage felt weird to me. My dumbass probably tuned into a video game or some shit 🤣

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u/hanskey 7 points 2022-06-14 17:45

Strategic retreats when overwhelmed are a good thing.

You can come back more determined not to let that shot at freedom slip by, each time.

Even if you lose the battles, you can still win the war.

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u/mcotter12 1 points 2022-06-14 17:46

Seeing a lot of that too. There are people out there trying to summon UFOs. It's heating up. Just another Renaissance

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u/hanskey 2 points 2022-06-14 17:51

It's more likely inorganic beings, which is not necessarily the same as UFOs/UAPs, since those seem to have physicality.

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u/mcotter12 1 points 2022-06-14 17:53

Most UFO have confirmed sensuality in that they can be seen. The materiality of UFO is very rare and only happens in crash sites and secret government projects as far as anyone knows. There is certainly a difference between one person seeing something and multiple people seeing it, but it is sensual consciousness

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u/danl999 6 points 2022-06-14 18:09

UFOs are real. We know that now.

But they aren't the same thing as inorganic beings.

The problem is, the inorganic beings will pretend to be Lucifer himself, if that's what interests you.

Still, I'm pleased to say now after all these years of deception, the government really was hiding UFOS from us!

All the video available now is staggering.

Now, is it good news, or bad news?

Beats me.

For sorcerers, it's a little like the Spanish invasion.

Maybe it's just an "opportunity", to perfect your sorcery skills.

The spanish were clueless about magic.

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u/mcotter12 0 points 2022-06-14 19:20

There is definitely a difference between planetary or celestial influences and other inorganic beings but there is a connection. Aliens, Terrestrial aerial and subterrestrial spirits, and elementals are all different but related

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u/danl999 6 points 2022-06-15 15:10

Nyei would agree with this.

I was on a male superiority trip when I first heard about Nyei's "communicating with stars" thing.

And even her flute playing.

Which is typical. Men always react badly when they see new witchcraft.

It's like they're building something they believe is "cool", glance over, and a woman is building something more ingenious. But it uses "flower power", or something they like to ignore in favor of rocks that can smash things.

So they're trying to come up with an excuse for why what she's building is "stupid".

But then Fairy returned to me for a visit, after staying with Juann so long.

And forced me to include humming. Precisely what Nyei had noticed. The effect of sound vibrations on the emanations.

What Carol Tiggs had shown in 2002.

Now I never go a day without using sound. How could anyone be so stupid, as to toss out one entire sense?

I did.

I'm only just now discovering smell.

Then Lily, probably mad prophet's Ally "Ren", came and taught me to leap to distant stars.

To see that they were indeed alive I suppose, because the only way you can "zoom in" on them, is by following their awareness. It's almost like the star sees you searching, sends out a beacon, and then "shows" you nearby planets that can be stood on, without falling into a molten lava pit.

Those are the ones you land on.

But I got obsessed with tracking down and punishing "the fliers", said to be in the Pleiades system.

So Lily banned me from doing that again.

Possibly what you are mentioning here falls into the topic of "stretching your luminous egg" upward?

But as for "aliens" proper, they live over there.

We can't assume they're so stupid, they never figured out that their sun or planet is a living being.

The recent "probes" baffling the Navy, seem to me not to contain any actual flesh and blood aliens.

They look to me to be advanced phantom bodies. Or AIs.

Golems. Don't anyone believe AIs will be independant all the time.

Most will likely be Golems at first.

We can inhabit Golems if we choose. Using technology.

But also using our awareness alone.

It's just very advanced sorcery to do that.

A good example: Don Juan's evil basket that tried to bite Pablito.

Or the blue scout.

Or the death defier who joined up with Carol Tigg's body.

At death, that's exactly what the new seers try to do.

Free the awareness to go anywhere, minus the body that limits us.

Let's speculate.

The awareness flows along the emanations.

Without a "container" (a body), there's no limits on that flow.

The "point at which the luminous egg" is attacked to the emanations, can stray far outside "safe" ranges.

My theory: it disperses too thin. So you "die".

But sorcerers flee either into the IOB world, a container, or into that big dome. Which is likely the same as the "vast underground transportation network" I found.

Once in the big dome, our range of exploration is vast.

But it's still just one planet confining our awareness.

Our new "body" is still somewhat restricted from absolutely free travel.

What if sorcerers stretch into infinite lines, in order to find ways to travel between that big come on the earth, and another one on a different planet, or sun?

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 3 points 2022-06-16 03:46

I don’t know, but all I know is I don’t want to lose my awareness after death like most people, that is NOT the move.

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u/danl999 6 points 2022-06-16 15:49

I can't prove it, but we do have some access to that giant Dome.

Carlos himself may have taken me there once. Caught me rapidly zipping in and out of dreams and lured me to it.

Could be what I've found of that ancient transportation network is the "floor" of the immensely huge middle part of that dome.

I tried to see that this morning.

I was inside the vast network, fussing over remembering "the moods of darkroom".

I had "moving, waiting, resting, "

And one I could not name without "breaking it".

It was "anticipating", or "gazing".

I had realized, the "moods" were degrees of cleanness in the link to intent.

You could only afford a single one at a time, if you wanted to successfully guide intent to do what you wanted next.

I was frustrated and wanted to run for my computer to write it down. But then I thought, "those are just the moods of intending?"

The Caretaker said something like, "They're already embedded in the Tensegrity. Just force the best silence you can, and the flow of the movements will activate each mood. But maybe you should look around where you are standing right now. At something more immediate."

I looked around and noticed the details of that structure were better formed than usual.

I even I saw the "lost and found" for Bubble Station, and tried to look inside.

We're missing a piece of paper with some text written on it, tossed from the other end of the tunnel.

But I couldn't keep the lost and found doors in place to grab the knobs and pull it open.

They kept blowing away like dense dirty fog.

I did get a chance to "look up", and the ceiling was so high there was nothing to see.

I also got a very strange suggestion on something I could "add" to that phantom realm, as long as it remained by the phantom Bubble Station.

I've lost what it was, but the theory seemed to be that anyone could attach a phantom structure to that vast place, and then you got to decorate your area any way you liked.

Except it's been lonely in there for many thousands of years. Nothing left of the ancient seers but their echoes.

And that any phantom room you attach there could become even more stable than one you just make where you live.

Like Cholita's copy of our home.

Or Pandora.

Or Zuleica's phantom house where Taisha learned.

The ones inside the transportation network were "anchored" to the earth itself, as a living being. So that the earth became aware of that structure also, and helped keep it stable.

Wish I could remember the suggestion on what could be added.

It was very amusing.

It was along the "theme" of a transportation hub, and the "services" they always have right next to them. Like food, magazines, travel brochures.

I've seen a LOT of transportation hubs in my life, and always like to explore them.

This particular "addition" seemed to be "sponsored" by one of the stray IOBs Minx brought to send through the tunnel.

I told Minx they weren't nice to the witch on the other side, so they were "banned" a while.

I believe Minx even understood it was the dreaded "6 month phantom subreddit ban".

I felt bad for disrespecting Minx's "friends" and suggested if any of them wanted a job at Bubble Station, that might make the place more stable. And they were still welcome on this side of the tunnel.

IOBs don't bother me at all.

They're like cats that will bite your toe if they feel like it, but it's not a big deal. It's actually amusing to see what causes them to bite.

In the case of IOBs, any weakness you have will cause them to try to "pull on it", to get whatever they're after.

I've returned to the gym, since Covid seems to be less threatening than never exercising again.

But I only try to max out all of the weight lifting machines. So I don't need to be in there more than 15 minutes before I can't stay longer.

The I'm always sore for a few days, and that interferes with DRG.

The IOBs will take advantage of that.

In fact, I was "absolutely sure" when I told Minx his friends might be able to work at Bubble Station and remain all the time, that the old seers did weird stuff like that themselves.

Use multiple IOBs to stabilize phantom things.

Thank goodness Taisha taught us about that, with her shadow beings in the tree house.

People should get over their IOB fear. It's nonsense!

I almost think it's just an excuse to not do any work.

It's obviously an "implant" in our minds by don Juan, for reasons not yet known to us.

But not for what we believe it to be. The danger is smaller than that of rock climbing or sky diving.

Might only be equal to driving in LA traffic.

IOBs can be used as helpers in specific projects! Projects you don't have the energy to repeat. They can make that possible!

That's always been their job! Making rituals work.

Way out there in the purple of the J curve, it get's VERY weird.

It's nice to see verification in the books somewhere. Don Juan's lineage even built a treehouse around the 2 IOBs they found were remaining there all the time.

So they could use it to teach.

Cholita built a garden around a tree spirit.

Unfortunately, her tree is dying. Cholita ran away too often and neglected to water it, after forbidding me to do that for her.

I had the feeling at that moment, thinking about how silly it was to "hire" IOBs to run a phantom Transportation station, that those old seers at the rock, each clinging to 3 IOBs, were likewise using them to "hold the structure together".

So I got a weird suggestion from SK for "additions" to my bubble station like, "You could put a Tarif Free candy, cigarettes and hard liquor store right there!"

I always liked those... There's nothing like chocolate barrels filled with hard liquor, for a snack on a very long fight.

It was as if that IOB was standing there suggesting he'd like to run that, and SK was translating the IOB's idea to me, like a Mom telling the Dad what a child is afraid to ask for.

The IOB ran to mommy.

As they like to do!

IOBs are big "cheaters". A lot of their "teaching", especially as "the emissary", feels exactly like they're just channeling SK to you.

Carlos used to do that by reading from his palm. It would have been considered "absurd" to suppose he had no idea what he was going to say next.

Except it's likely true.

The IOBs do that!

Their "Lessons from the Dreaming Emissary" are plagiarized!

When I heard about the amusing possible addition to the station, I glanced to the right to see where the SK voice was suggesting I could attach it, and it turned out part of the IOB cave had gotten stuck there.

On the right side, which is unusual from what I've seen.

It was so bad, I looked straight up and there was another IOB face. And even down. Below the floor in some odd way.

I got a lame excuse designed to make me accept the IOB cave being there.

"It's merely awareness as a feature of the environment!"

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 16:59

Damn that excuse does seem pretty lame. I mean like wow just no choice but to have it there? I’d be mad if the phantom copy of my place had a big ass fucking cave ruining it. At that point I’m constructing a boxing ring and they need to send one of their best IOBs for 3 minutes before my awareness runs out, if it doesn’t run out before then.

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u/danl999 4 points 2022-06-16 17:09

Then you can join me on a raid to the world of "the fliers".

I know where it is. Lily pretended to be protecting me from going there, by showing me what can happen to "visitors" from earth.

But in fact, she simply verified I had found the right place!

Well. At least she was worried I might get there if I kept going.

Look at the absurdity of Buddhism and Hinduism...

I like to keep reminding people.

Both crap magic. Left over African Shamanism, now fully useless.

Just green zone slime.

Bad player creations!

Milarepa, the famous "Tibetan Yogi" was so lame, he actually believed his many years of hard effort eating nothing but leaves, and sitting on his bare butt for a decade, with his eyes closed, practicing some silly mantric meditation that never allows full silence, had risen him up to "enlightened sage".

Enlightened???

No such thing! That's just getting "slimmed" in the green zone.

So when he got a crummy view of an IOB with his eyes closed, he fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Swallowed the bait, and it became one of the most "esoterically pornographic" tales to people confused by Dzogchen and the Dali Lama.

You can find groupies on that "The Tibetan Yogis" video on YouTube.

All eagerly learning to sit with eyes closed, and "deny yourself stuff".

To get a crappy vision of an IOB who's tricking you.

Milarepa got taken to "hell", and was so clueless he blamed the IOBs for torturing lost souls there.

We lost our only Nagual Tony to that absolute crap.

I used to think, "But Milarepa could fly!"

Until I realized, we do that too.

La Gorda's technique.

And not only can we fly, but far outside our galaxy.

With our eyes open!

After having a nice all you can eat buffet and some wine.

But "Milarepa" is a famous "sage" of Buddhism?

Delusional crap!

Anyway, we'll go kick flier butt if we get lucky.

Find something "worse" than fliers, and lead it to their world.

We could try "plagues" on them, like Moses did to the Egyptians.

Until they agree to "let my people go free".

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 17:46

I’d be happy to, if I could first only learn how to control my double for long enough to leave the solar system, still haven’t been able to get get that one. But definitely on my bucket list of things I need to do. I know how to fly, I just need to accomplish the step of bringing my double here.

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-06-16 17:53

That's automatic when you follow the J curve.

Starts to help out in the orange zone, becomes visible just short of the purple.

It's only a "difficult topic" on the "Gates of Dreaming" path.

A big waste of time no one has ever actually followed. They just pretend and lie about it.

It's so easy to bring out the double, Taisha even brings hers out just by taking a nap next to some IOBs, while visualizing doing tensegrity down below the tree house where she's sleeping.

In her "lost book".

The entire community got brainwashed by all the bad men out there, making up stuff.

The abstract cores, the 3rd attention.

All make believe nightmares in the Castaneda community.

We have our own "Tibetan Yogi" groupies who don't care about actually doing things.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 18:23

So visualizing.. basically like daydreaming? If that’s the case, the I feel dumb, that could’ve made my job much easier. Something might be wrong with me because my daydreaming is a starting to get more and more real. One second I’m here, the next I’m fighting someone in the street and my body will physically move at times as if I were actually there meanwhile I’m really just brewing coffee, but if I get too into it like when they throw a punch, at times I’ve reacted physically and dodged as if it were actually in front of me. I may need to dial it back. I’m really a nutty ass dude.

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-06-16 18:35

I'm not sure what you mean.

Daydreaming is the #1 enemy of DRG.

It holds the assemblage point fixed.

But if you move it down to the bottom of the back, then the double comes out in response to his own interests.

You don't summon him. He just likes what he sees, and comes to help.

Like Cholita's double. If I'm doing something very interesting, it shows up to take a look.

It's NOT imagined!!! It's another person, right there.

Semi-solid in the case of Cholita. She could punch if she tried, but it wouldn't hurt much.

But only when she's nearby does she visit. She's one of those somewhat rare people Carlos mentioned, whose double likes to check them out once in a while. To see what the "other half" is doing.

Now, as for daydreaming becoming very real, that means the assemblage point can move down to the green.

It's green line daydreaming.

That's NOT the double coming out.

When the double comes out, you'll see his "physical body", right there!

Real! A strange person sitting on the edge of your bed.

No mistake about it!

Or it will stick an arm in to help you with something you're trying to do, like scoop up magical objects.

Daydreaming is more like sleeping dreaming, where the double still hasn't come into "the real copy of the room".

Never imagine or visualize sorcery. The results are REAL when you are doing the actual practices which are based on silence, and moving the assemblage point.

Daydreaming that's vivid is kind of magical, but it still traps you near the top. So you don't get to the red zone.

And it leads to delusions of "enlightenment". Bogus beliefs that stop you from working harder.

As for dialing it back, you do need "sobriety".

Carlos left us instructions!

But even the cleargreen groupies who believe they are following "the one true path" (cleargreen), never bothered to read it and follow it.

It's what Carlos told us to do after he was dead! The "Silent Knowledge" publication.

And in the first few pages you'll see a list of "requirements" to follow his instructions.

Sobriety is one of them.

Meaning, don't be a crazy bad player who makes up stuff.

Pretending his mental illness, over use of drugs, or some other thing that isn't sorcery related, is actually magic.

We have those. In this subreddit!

So try to be "sober".

Don't mistake one thing for another, because it's self-flattering.

But also don't let me discourage actual sorcery states.

It's a difficult balance, with only you to make sure you're on the side of "sobriety".

And there are "substitutes" for sobriety.

"Unbending intent" is one.

Josefina was NOT sober.

Neither is Cholita.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 19:17

Josefina was NOT sober

Shit neither am I at times, duly noted. Smoking defo ain’t helping. Shit got me losing awareness in dreams faster anyway. The daydreaming bit came from me being a boxer and at times having a shadow opponent. Bringing the imagination to life. It’s defo not gonna have any use here in sorcery, but it’s still kinda cool if you’re a fighter to be able to daydream that vividly, just sucks when you’re out in public and outta no where you imagine fighting a big hulking dude and accidentally hit an old lady on the side.

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u/danl999 2 points 2022-06-16 20:59

"Defo" is a very rare slang word, and no definitions I saw explained what it was.

Katy Perry smoked some. Decided it hurt her throat too much.

If it's pot, that is indeed a DRG harmer.

Won't stop you, but it's like reducing your energy level to 1/4th when you get past the green zone.

In the green zone, it might be "helpful".

Possibly just by altering the internal dialogue.

Beyond that, if you can accept "transparent" things, you can still manage to move your assemblage point all the way on the curve.

It just won't be much fun.

But in fact, you can kick "Zen Master" butt stoned.

Easily.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 21:13

I think I’ll end up just stopping soon, I’d like to grow to my full potential here. I know I can be way more if I go long huge breaks and maybe every once in a blue moon smoking. As for “defo” it’s short for “definitely”. At times I change how I type constantly all the time based on me just being lazy. You’ll notice me use a lot of slang as I’m someone who doesn’t my care about impressing others with my vernacular abilities, since I come from an area where your hands mattered more than how good you could talk. I like to be comfy in speech. And my version of comfy just happens to be ghetto and upfront. Side affect of growing up around both groups, so switching is as easy as that.

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u/danl999 2 points 2022-06-16 21:39

Marijuana is good for bringing multiple young girlfriends to an expensive restaurant, where you automatically get 3 waiters surrounding your table once they figure out you're trying to get them very drunk.

And they don't card women with old men in expensive restaurants.

I once brought a young woman from Taiwan who didn't look older than 15 here.

But naturally she was 22.

It's an "ugly secret" of restaurants in California. They don't follow the rules when there's a lot of money potential.

I'm celibate of course, but it's very amusing when everyone thinks they "know what's going on there".

I even get people coming up to the table to ask how that came to be.

It's just natural to sorcerers I believe, to hang out with very young women.

They have dark energy and haven't fussed it all off yet chasing men.

Howard once complained about Carlos coming to Marshall Ho'o tai chi association picnics, with a new young woman on his arm each time.

Warned Marshall's daughter to stay away from Carlos.

So if anyone doubts the story Carlos told about making a home movie with Howard and Bruce Lee, he was in all the right places to end up doing that. Even lived near Hollywood.

Marshall was nearly as famous as Bruce and surely bumped into him often.

Carlos was the bar tender.

That movie likely still exists out there! Who would get rid of it?

If it was Howard and Bruce, there HAD to be a bar fight scene!

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u/danl999 6 points 2022-06-14 17:51

The blue sparkles are the 3rd or 4th of "Patanjali's Inner Lights".

It's been a while, so I don't remember the count.

He describes his own version of the puffs. The energy body that's visible before forming.

Muktananda made a huge deal out of them, saying if you see the blue one you're highly evolved. He called it, "The blue pearl".

Uh... Except many see those!

Yogananda's church uses one as the symbol in Orange county. It's over the top of the door.

They don't actually see them much. It's just more yoga pretending.

In Thailand some believe the "blue ball" will expand, open up, and out will come your guru.

If that happens, don't give him your credit card number!

Here's Patanjali's technique.

In perfect inner silence, FAR past ordinary green level "bliss", just say, "inner lights".

MUST be past the red zone!

Then drop it, and forget you said it. Return to absolute silence, which Patanjali called "Samadhi", because he was a Hindu religious nut.

He was "Mr. Bookdeal".

BUT, book deal bad players steal from older material, so if the book deal was more than 400 years ago, it's worth paying attention to.

We don't have access to the best old books on magic.

We only have bad player repeats, or repeats, of echos.

But they are worth studying.

First inner light comes as red, then white, then the blue dot?

You can easily find this on the internet.

It's the "Siddhi Powers" all yoga cults use for "advanced Workshops" costing $5000 each.

When people pay to learn to meditate (can be $2000!), then they realize it's just miserable green line stuff, and not even continuously, they can be sold an "advanced technique".

Chopra was an "advanced technique" teacher for Maharishi, but then Opra turned him into a super star.

All he did was tell you, instead of repeating "Aing", now you should repeat, "Aing Nama".

If you were dumb enough to buy that, he'd sell you "Shri Aing Nama".

And then when people started to realize advanced techniques were pointless and very expensive they sold them "The Siddhi Program".

Pretending they'd teach you to fly like Milarepa.

Except, they're idiots. So no one actually flew.

I've done that many times, and as far as I can tell, you have to switch to the double and shrink the tonal.

You can't fly just because you closed your eyes and are repeating lame mantras.

You have to move your assemblage point far away from where Maharishi could move his, until "the double becomes visible". It's deep orange zone stuff.

Where Yogis likely NEVER reach.

THEN, you can make all of the techniques of Patanjali work.

In fact, they'll be trivial and obvious at that point.

Yoga Butt. All I'm saying...

That's hinduism.

I had a 22 year old "girlfriend" who went to Yoga daily, and I got to pick her up.

Trust me, it was yoga butt all class long. Too bad the men were gay.

Or at least that's what makes it more popular in my half of California.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 4 points 2022-06-14 17:59

Ah, so I’m just overreacting a little. Good to know, definitely brings some relief to my life. I don’t know how reliable those gurus are, but I certainly don’t feel any more “evolved”. Maybe I didn’t give them enough money so they could inflate my ego anymore than it already is.

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u/danl999 7 points 2022-06-14 18:14

I've never learned to make use of the blue dots.

HOWEVER, right next to the purple zone on that J curve, you can "summon" more and more blue dots, by "intending it".

And long before that, anywhere below the green line, they are almost like a "predictor of an upcoming intent gift".

BUT, once you are looking for an "upcoming gift", you're screwed.

Mom will go hide the gift back under the bed, just to teach you a lesson.

Same happens with "intent".

"Expecting" is a dirty leak to intent.

That's why you can mostly summon more and more of them, only over in the very last part of the orange zone.

You can in fact just wave your arm in a circle, fingers pointing at the ground, and generate dozens of them.

Just for fun, find a Yogananda "church", and on sunday as everyone is entering, and there's the "wise leader" greeting at the door, point up to the blue dot symbol and ask the wise guy what it means, if you see those all the time.

Won't go well...

It's like a bad player church leader has learned to turn away invading bad players.

If you get a positive reaction, hes' a bad player with franchise hopes. Not a loyal Yoganda minion.

Probably does sex yoga on the side.

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u/Artivist 2 points 2022-06-14 19:14

It's the "Siddhi Powers" all yoga cults use for "advanced Workshops" costing $5000 each.

Yes, now you can learn to open your 3rd eye for a small price of $5,555. Perfect example of bookdeal mind.

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u/danl999 7 points 2022-06-14 20:48

There really is a "3rd eye".

The one La Gorda had.

I get the "offer" once every year or so.

It just floats up in the darkness, real as anything, and you realize it's what La Gorda was talking about.

I'm waiting to see who else gets the "offer".

Didn't she equate that with "losing the human form"?

But as I recall, she said you lose that just by gazing progress.

So what if we "went in the back entrance" on that one too?

We bypassed the "wall of fog".

Why not that?

So that losing the human form is only losing "sense of self".

You really do lose any idea of self, when deep in the orange. There's nothing to protect out there, because you're surrounded by amazing magic, and nothing stands up to that enough to "protect".

So there you can clearly see that was a mental obsession, not a reality.

But is that losing the human form?

Maybe.

The apprentices of don Juan were "traumatized" by the Nagual's blow.

Perhaps learning to move your assemblage point by yourself, after having been manipulated by a Nagual, creates "exagerated" experiences?

We get jack shit. Nada. Tiny little bits. Crumbs.

So we don't get "fat" with sorcery goodies.

Some workshop notes even admit "the nagual's blow" creates dents that have to be "fixed".

We're going to be "original body work" sorcerers!

No bondo at all.

Maybe a few bullet holes though.

From bad players attacking.

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u/ThrwayDreamer1 4 points 2022-06-14 19:04

Sounds like good old-fashioned, ever present fear. First enemy stuff. We all unravel a little a bit on this path at some point. There were moments in the books when Carlos become completely undone, and when I was out in Westwood and traveling in my energy body nightly, I was literally terrified for weeks on end. Completely shook. Squigglies and sparkles came endlessly during those days and I thought I'd fucked up my eyes forever. Cut to: 20 years later and I can see fine, and I didn't die... I don't think. I'm not sure anyone can give you the advice you need but I would take a deep breath and realize we all go through this at times on this path. My guess is that in a few weeks/months you will beat the first enemy (again), and you'll look back on this period with amusement.

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u/HeiruRe777 2 points 2022-06-14 20:56

The UFOs seem to be drones.

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u/FuzzyLogick 1 points 2022-06-15 02:28

If you are feeling lost, it would be a good time to get back to yourself. That is meditation, yoga, expression, things that calm your mind and allow your to be at peace with yourself.

That way you will be open to guidance from your higherself. Leading with your heart is also pretty huge.

I see purple sparks, I still am not sure what they mean, but I do believe it is something/someone trying to tell me something, it almost seems like my third eye sharpening or something.

Good luck !

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 5 points 2022-06-15 05:47

Nigga, did you just say Higherself? And does “tattooed girls” mean anything to you? Along with “no visible tattoos” you a porn moderator bro? I’ma keep it a stack bruh, get that spirituality shit up outta here. Ion wanna hear nun of dat fr. Step ya game up and try to do some real magic, stop lying to ya self and saying you get bitches when you get no bitches. If you couldn’t tell, that was a bit of humor. But the fact is, you really need to up your game if you’re gonna be in here. Get that Astral Projecting shit far the fuck somewhere else. And stop moderating for porn subreddits, it gives off creepy “Nathan” vibes.

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u/FuzzyLogick 1 points 2022-06-15 07:37

It's a sub I created over a decade ago, someone else moderates it, though what has that got to do with anything?

Also, MB didn't realise what sub this was and just wanted to offer help, didn't think I would trigger you by offering help, but here we are!

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 3 points 2022-06-15 15:21

Not so much that, Spirituality has no place here. We don’t like pretend magic

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u/FuzzyLogick 0 points 2022-06-16 02:54

Yeah I totally undersand if it's not for you, I do find it interesting you call it pretend magic, when people would laugh at you for practising any magic what-so-ever, which you are doing for something different than yours, seems like you are holding onto part of that brain that wants to judge others for not being exactly like you.

I just assumed people who practised any type of magic would generally have an open mind and not be prejudice towards others simply because they practise something different. I am too optimistic though.

I mean I believe in many different things, I am not one for drawing lines in the sand, especially when it comes to the occult and magic.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 1 points 2022-06-16 03:34

Oh god shut the fuck up, I can’t stand the amount of mental masturbation you put into that comment. Judging? More like shutting out the mentally deficient from the people who actually work in here. Crawl yourself out of the river of shit or get the fuck out. Nobody wants to hear about you and what you believe in and what YOU practice. We don’t give a fuck, fuck you and whatever it is you do. You could slather yourself in peanut butter and have a 15 hooker gangbang, and we STILL would not give a fuck, the most reaction you’d get is getting treated like the court jester. And hell no we don’t have an open mind to your bullshit, no fucking thanks. Change your name to FuzzyRetard please, take your bs and your clown makeup back to the spirituality circus. 🤡 🎪🎡

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u/FuzzyLogick 1 points 2022-06-16 04:20

Oh god shut the fuck u

Advice you should take lol asif I am going to read that wall of gibberish.

Lol triggered.

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u/JoJoAMenaceFr 2 points 2022-06-16 04:21

Bye see ya! We won’t miss you at all my nigga. 💀 also I saw that corny ass edit, you clearly read it. Loser ass 🤣💯 You get no bitches Nathan, we’re done here.