Beginner's question about the 4 gates so it might be pure stupidity hahaha

New Practitioners u/rrttac 2022-06-30 17:32 UTC 1 points

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Beginner's question about the 4 gates so it might be pure stupidity hahaha
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Dark room gazing and its thing of seeing many dream scenarios that you can interact with seems very interesting but quite hard to achieve, could it be replaced with conscious sleep practices such as sleep paralysis and the usual at night lucid dream if one can have many episodes of both at a daily basis? I was reading the lots of materials on the 4 gates of dreaming and the guy in the posts says it ain't practical to trust luck with lucid dreams cause you never know when they gonna happen, but if you do know when its gonna happen and can frequently induce them, can they replace the dark room gazing? I tried dark room gazing 3 times yesterday for some 20 to 30 minutes and the best I got to see was some geometric cones flipping around and only in one of those 3 times. Any advice is welcomed :)
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2022-06-30 18:03

Ask this question in public chat instead, to which you have just been added.

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u/rrttac 1 points 2022-06-30 18:12

Thank you, I'll wait until they finish the current topic then post it there.

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The Sorcery Lineage of Don Juan Matus & Carlos Castaneda

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Booklist

Carlos Castaneda's books in chronological order:

The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge (1968)
A Separate Reality: Further Conversations With Don Juan (1971)
Journey to Ixtlan: The Lessons of Don Juan (1972)
Tales of Power (1974)
The Second Ring of Power (1977)
The Eagle's Gift (1981)
The Fire From Within (1984)
The Power of Silence: Further Lessons of Don Juan (1987)
The Art of Dreaming (1993)
Magical Passes: The Practical Wisdom of the Shamans of Ancient Mexico (Jan. 20, 1998)
The Wheel of Time: The Shamans Of Ancient Mexico, Their Thoughts About Life, Death And The Universe (Jun. 1, 1998)
The Active Side of Infinity (Sep. 1, 1998)

Florinda Donner's books:

Shabono: A Visit to a Remote and Magical World in the South American Rain Forest (1982)
The Witch's Dream: A Healer's Way of Knowledge (1985)
Being-in-Dreaming: An Initiation into the Sorcerers' World (1991)

Taisha Abelar's book:

The Sorcerer's Crossing: A Woman's Journey (1992)
Unpublished Manuscript - Stalking With The Double (restored version) (March, 1996) - file includes a link to the original scanned version, older file links