Hi everyone,
I am on this subreddit for a month or two and I dont know where to start sorcery or darkroom practices. Do we absolutly need a benefactor to guides us in this path? If yes, do we find one or he finds us or it all depend on our personnal power? What is the first step do to, on the warrior or sorcery passes. Do I need to go to Mexico to learn all that? I've tryed to understand the J curve and the practices of this subreddit, but I get more confused than knowing where I have to go.
Sorry for my english, it's not my first language.
Thanks y'all.
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We’re working on creating a separate subreddit consisting only of clearer instruction for total beginners.
But that is still some months off, even though it’s been set up already.
Until then, recap, tensegrity, silence. The trifecta.
No benefactor. No travel. No $.
Hey I’ve shouted intent as hard as I can and I had thought it’s a start to things any advice on what to wait for next?
Once is enough to start. Apparently.
But waiting is for armchair enthusiasts.
You need to transition to being a user, of the technology presented here, if you expect to experience it’s depths.
Could you explain what you guys mean? It grabbed my attention and I must know!
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What do you mean by “technology”?
Thank you so much!!
Shouting INTENT while intensely focusing on something abstract and challenging you are keen on accomplishing but that can’t, or is unlikely, to be fulfilled solo.
INTENT likes audacious tasks, bold actions with a pinch of humor. Don’t expect assistance with trivial daily chores. It’s not a cop-out opportunity. (insert universal deity name) helps those who help themselves.
Noun: technology
|tek'nó‑lu‑jee|
The application of the knowledge and usage of tools (such as machines or utensils) and techniques to control one's environment;the mastery of fire (and eventually awareness) was a huge advance in human technology
=tech
~application, practical application
The discipline dealing with the art or science of applying tested/verified knowledge to practical problems; he had trouble deciding which branch of technology to study
=applied science, engineering, engineering science, (sorcery!)
~bailiwick, discipline, field, field of study, study, subject, subject area
Wow…. so true. Before shouting intent i had a lot of anxieties. night time would be best because it’s night while it’s quiet everywhere and I’m shouting INTENT very very loudly, it sounds as if it had alarmed everyone. The louder the scream then I really want it. No one could figure if I had said "intent". Would sound very alarming to someone near by
I like where this is going. Fair enough
Join general chat by direct messaging the mods and ask these questions there please.
Yes. Not enough newbies ask to join the chat, despite making it as clearly visible as we're able to.
Same with the wiki and reading materials lists, etc.
Like they never notice the sticky post!!
Beginners and questions are fine, just they make for terrible posts and each one that gets in seems to encourage others to do the same.
Look at the last batch. One was suddenly followed by four more.
I made a post about this around a month ago, just start reading the books and then go to the chats.
I red the books, but I didnt look at the chat
thanks a lot and sorry for the inconvenience, I should have looked better the wiki and the tools
Usually looking at older post does the trick. We see minimum 2 new people posting the same post each week. Meaning we have hundreds of posts that are called "i am new here, where should i start".
Don't feel bad. Every single person has been a newbie. A nudge in the right direction is all you needed.
A "benefactor" is almost always a sexual predator in our modern times.
Or an evil man like Tata Kachora who wants to steal from as many people as possible.
It's a very bad man pretending to have knowledge he does not, with his eye on your butt.
Or your money. Or both.
They drug you up and then do whatever they like with you, claiming it's teaching magic.
Happens all the time!
In fact, when I post about it on facebook I get quite a few who have literally seen that situation. It's one of the most popular post topics. The craziness of people who say, "I have a benefactor".
It's like saying, "I don't know what's going on, and some bad man has kidnapped me for his own purposes."
Also, a "benefactor", back in the olden days of the Olmecs, is a "Man of Knowledge" thing.
Those guys were crummy profitters.
We DO NOT want to be "Men of Knowledge".
They were so horrible, the Olmec government wouldn't let them practice without a license.
But they provided a wide variety of "services" centered around magic.
Even magic shaped food items for the Olmec holidays.
Or magic figure dance masks.
And naturally, the power plant ceremonies.
Which they did for cash. Not for knowledge.
What we want to be, are actually "seers".
Magic nerds.
Go back and real more carefully!
Don Juan says he's going to teach Carlos a second way to view the world, so he can sneak through the middle and learn to see.
He never says he wants Carlos to become one of those. There would be no point for don Juan, to teach him that. It's just more shamanism. Common all over.
Don Juan had to replace himself. A "man of knowledge" couldn't do that.
That's like a plumber, compared to an engineer who works on huge dam projects.
But people fall in love with the story, and believe our goal is to learn to be those men of knowledge.
It's not.
They never learned to see, so they had to rely on drugs and their Allies, to do things that are easy for people in here.
For example, it often took a full year to prepare a ritual. Like the smoke, or the devil's weed paste, to get the lizards to speak to you on your shoulders.
I do crazy stuff like that for 3 hours a night, every single night, completely sober, wide awake, eyes open, walking around to make sure I don't get tired.
That's because we practice silence in here, eliminating the need for drugs.
No one using the power plants ever gets anywhere. They can't take you all the way to "seeing". If they could, "rave" party goers would all be sorcerers.
Drugs only get you down to the red zone on the J curve. Go look at the J curve map Carlos left us. There's a link at the bottom of this.
The bottom right of the railroad trackso n that map are as far as "Men of Knowledge" ever got.
Carlos told us to go to the purple zone at the end, on the left near the middle. Where infinity itself becomes our "benefactor". And has no intentions on our butt.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/mtfwhb/even_better_j_curve_diagram/
Wow, thanks for that. You've kind put me on the right track. I've wanted to learn to master those power plant to help me and other, but It's not the good way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/w7wush/couple_of_questions_from_another_new_guy/ihmgvhh
I always get misunderstood as being too hostile to new people, but that's because it doesn't do anyone any good to pamper them when you can see they're on the wrong track from the start.
I've learned it's better to just "Whack" them, like one of those mechanical "whac-a-mole" creatures that pops up at a Chucky Cheese Pizza restaurant, on a kid's game machine you play with quarters to get "tickets".
There's 3 reactions.
The really bad people don't pop back up. They just leave.
If you ever see that "mole" again, they'll likely be in disguise.
Some come out of the machine and rub their head, asking how you could be so mean as to whack them like that?
But the best are the ones who realize it's all just a game, but the prizes you can get with the tickets are the real thing!
So they start considering how it's best to play by the rules.
That way, you eventually get to be the one doing the whacking and collect the prizes for yourself.
Magic...
Not the tokens. Forget about those if you want the magic.
Your doubts are valid. Most of us came here very confused about what to do with the books.
Luckily Dan always emphasized silence, tensegrity and inorganic beings.
That combination can help you to move the assemblage point.
And in fact it is all we do in the Practice Group.
But we got to learn, those are the "tools", and not the thing itself that allows magic to grow.
3 hours of practice can make at least one chance each day to learn about that.
Recap being skippable at first, for a few. But if you have a loaded past you're not going to be able to get silent enough to see any puffs in darkroom.
I have recently seen how Being Energy instructors teach recapitulation in groups, mostly for beginners.
They do a kind of guided recap, that focus on the last sexual encounter.
It definitely works, and heard about random people seeing weird stuff with the eyes closed.
Of course the 40 minits that lasts the session is not enough at all. How much time do you recap? Was it 3 hours for the good results?
But maybe combinated with Magical Passes saturation and a complete darkroom session, it could do wonders.
Okok thanks, i'll start with that