Inspired by the practices of these last days, and remembering the barriers at each level of the J Curve.
5 is the minimum level for the techniques of the books!
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u/Artivist
3 points2022-09-19 23:46
Can you share your practice routine and duration?
I'm busy with work during the day and am so pretty tired to practice at night beyond an hour or so. If I wake up and try early in the morning, then I am not able to get enough sleep especially considering that I work out a lot so need plenty of rest to recover.
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u/Juann2323
9 points2022-09-20 00:26
I don't follow a practice routine.
In fact I usually don't know when I'm going to practice, until I practice.
The afternoons work very good these days, but I also like the nights.
And I neither worry about the time anymore. I instead try to make the practice duration more efficient, to avoid deviations.
But that's just my experience right now.
It could be good to have a routine at first, in order to create the discipline.
And we loved to put the "timing" in the pictures, like how much time we needed for getting the magic.
It just ends up being not really useful.
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u/Artivist
2 points2022-09-20 00:31
That makes sense.
Once you do find magic, are there certain things in particular that you are attempting to do? Is it part entertainment and part utility?
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u/Juann2323
8 points2022-09-20 00:49
I try to get as far in the J Curve as possible, each practice.
The key always end up being moving further.
Each confusion you get in the practice, is solved by moving to the next station.
And the rewards are greater!
During the practice I do magical passes, stretching and sit to gaze.
But you can't avoid the hard work of getting silent.
That's what makes this work!
If you were asking specific details about the magic, you can try almost anythinf you want.
Holding visible magic in the hands and putting it into the belly is what Zuleica teached Carlos to do.
The possibilities are endless, since details end up appearing all around in the room.
You can even move them, or put them together to create a power object.
As I put in the picture, the stuff ends up being self explanatory. You will discover it just by playing!
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u/Artivist
2 points2022-09-20 01:19
During the practice I do magical passes, stretching and sit to gaze.
Is all your practice in addition to sleep (around 8 hours) or does being in heightened awareness helps reduce the number of hours of sleep you need?
Also, I have seen multiple perspectives on when to do the magical passes. Some say to do it after you have become silent (where you can see the passes/energy). Others say to do the passes in order to become silent. Is it a bit of both?
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u/Juann2323
7 points2022-09-20 02:44
I separate practice and sleep, so I couldn't tell you if you need more or less hours.
Heightened awareness is refreshing, and you don't feel tired.
But it doesn't last forever, and you still feel the lack of sleep.
> I have seen multiple perspectives on when to do the magical passes.
Try and tell me!
In fact, doing Magical Passes along the whole practice is wonderful.
Each one could produce a specific effect.
And practice without them is way harder.
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u/silence_sam
2 points2022-09-20 19:48
As someone that is just starting to see, I do magical passes during dark room.
Stay silent during the passes and you might start to feel a shift while you’re doing them. You’ll know what that means when you experience it.
While learning passes I like to make the room dark and set the iPad on the dresser, and follow along with the video, doing the passes. Then I’ll sit and gaze, forcing silence and trying to keep going deeper. Eventually I can tell I need more magical passes so I’ll do the ones I remember, or start over watching the video and then back to darkness.
It’s a good way to be efficient with your time while you’re learning the movements and it works.
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u/Artivist
1 points2022-09-20 21:25
How long do you usually practice?
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u/silence_sam
3 points2022-09-20 21:41
I’d be embarrassed to answer that truthfully BUT last night I spent about 45 minutes watching the video and doing tensegrity, then maybe an hour sitting and gazing, with some movements interspersed.
That was enough to get things moving and start to see hazy blobs and coloured sparkles.
There’s a reason 3 hours is recommended. I spent the first far-too-long only just sitting in the dark trying to be silent and “waiting for something to happen”. That was a mistake, I didnt understand the instructions properly and I got no-where
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u/mileralumpuraminoum
1 points2024-10-20 00:42
Can you elaborate on why you would consider it a mistake to sit and force silence? You were missing tensegrity?
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u/mileralumpuraminoum
1 points2024-10-20 00:42
Can you elaborate on why you would consider it a mistake to sit and force silence? You were missing tensegrity?
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u/Artivist
3 points2022-09-20 05:04
Can you elaborate on what you mean by making practice more efficient? Less fantasizing and more silence?
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u/Juann2323
9 points2022-09-20 23:21
Something you learn after practicing for a long time, is that just sitting and forcing silence is no guarantee of magic.
In fact, you could do a very good session of Magical Passes, try to force silence for hours, and still have nothing going on.
And there are some days where the opposite seems to be true.
You almost do nothing, and a REALLY cool thing happens.
So you wonder if you can actually change the success.
Sorcery has no procedures!
It is all about summoning an external force in order to help you.
There are certain ways to produce that inexplicable thing easier, or faster.
It is related to our Will, but also to some type of attitude.
Don Juan talked about Intent requirements, and gave lessons on that topic to Carlos.
But in a practical side, there is no other way of learning that than just getting inside the darkroom.
When you do your very best each practice and don't care about other motivations than learning, you get "gifts".
Gifts are the Spirit moving our assemblage point, to a place where we 'shouldn't be'.
And then we have to keep moving to reach that place on our own.
It is full of lessons along the way!
Bottom line, there is really such thing as "the link to Intent", and it is what matters to make the practice efficient!
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u/danl999
10 points2022-09-19 22:43
Looks good to me!
I'm beginning to suspect that trying to explain past step 5 seems to just depress beginners.
And it infuriates bad players.
Probably people who teach normal skills like soccer or carpentry, understand how to pace out the skill learning.
We'll get this right when I start making cartoons.
We can plan them in order, so no one gets too far ahead of themselves. It's so much more work to make one of those than a simple picture, that it's important to plan them.
Maybe just "how to find a puff".
Then, "what to do with puffs".
Then, "How to build a freeway overpass in your darkroom so you can stage insurance fraud"?
It actually is the next step, after "what to do with puffs"!
But perhaps a different title like, "How to move the assemblage point sideways"
Or "Sliding Dreaming" as Fancy named it.
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u/Juann2323
9 points2022-09-19 23:19
It's so much more work to make one of those than a simple picture, that it's important to plan them.
I imagine! I even had to plan this one, because it had too many steps inside.
And also used 2000x2000 instead of 1000x1000.
It is annoying when it doesn't fit balanced, and you have to re adapt the main idea just because of the size.
I'm beginning to suspect that trying to explain past step 5 seems to just depress beginners.
Yeah, you are probably right; at least for the public subreddit.
We still get people who confuses darkroom with lucid dreaming!
It would be an accurate confusion if they were actually animating dreams in the darkness, to the point they fall asleep.
But they can't see the puffs, and pick up advanced inventory. That's harmful for the practice.
About the advanced subreddit, I find it useful to read about the cool things, even if I can't still do them.
It is better to keep some things fresh!
Got very interested about the "Usefulness of SK" ideas of that last post, and the comparison between different ages of man.
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u/Equal_Fox_5516
3 points2022-09-20 00:22
We still get people who confuses darkroom with lucid dreaming!
I think some of the confusion is coming from the fact that men and women perceive things very differently when beginning this form of magic. A female (or maybe just me) will shift assemblage points randomly when walking down the street. (of course, the inorganic is assisting this process and it isn't exactly will)
Adding a darkroom that you enter at night, and a strict practice of forcing silence... is just very similar to entering an altered state or lucid dreaming state.
Someone should make a map about how to realize you have shifted assemblage points in everyday life. Things can get incredibly uncomfortable.
Sometimes when I go sit in my darkroom the inorganic completely ignores me so i go there to rest.
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u/Juann2323
4 points2022-09-20 00:36
There are daylight maps around the subreddit!
In fact, the visible magic is mostly equivalent.
I believe the moodies you talk about take place around the blue and green zone.
Not really worth to map those, because they are hard to describe.
That's why we use the puffs for the darkness.
We could use other stuff, like sounds!
Also, keep in mind women also see the stuff. Just ask Lida!
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u/EducationalCorner118
7 points2022-09-19 23:19
hi! i have a problem.. when i start to feel my AP move i get too "excited" and kinda "lose it".. back to the blue zone.
How i can overcome this? any tips? more practice?
This happens during blackroom pratice..
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u/danl999
13 points2022-09-19 23:26
It's normal! That's called a "dirty link to intent".
It's what sorcery is! Overcoming that. And the other things that come along, once you get past that.
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u/Juann2323
11 points2022-09-19 23:30
Yeah, those are blue zone- green zone side effects.
It is related to "what we expect" of practice.
I had the HORRIBLE habit of thinking I was getting enlightened, each time I got to the green zone.
Too much OSHO and Eckhart Tolle. Really bad guys.
That's our greedy part. Dan named it 'the book deal mind'.
If you get silent enough, you will realize you can actually make the choice of not getting interested in it.
We have them because we let them happen, and they can be avoided in the same way.
In fact, it frees a lot of energy to stop feeding that personal importance greed.
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u/EducationalCorner118
4 points2022-09-19 23:44
Thank you guys! i'm really grateful for the textwalls!
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u/Equal_Fox_5516
2 points2022-09-20 00:25
what are the red zone and orange zone effects? what I experience there is very uncomfortable, but of course i am still recapitulating.
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u/Juann2323
6 points2022-09-20 00:41
The red zone and orange zone are really complex.
To the point we probably didn't discover most of them yet.
Carlos even had to advice us an "ideal path" to stick to, in order to avoid deviations.
The practice ends up taking place in phantom rooms, with all type of inorganic realms and dream worlds.
Look at the J Curve diagram!
We know the old seers loved the red zone, because of it's practical side. And they loved "power".
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u/PreciseInstance
3 points2022-09-19 23:19
Wow, amazing picture with amazing clarity.
I have a feeling i need to put a phantom copy of this post on my wall...
When i get to step 5, I usually have to find the path to the next step. There is no procedure for some reason. You just have to know when you're there.
I guess that's why it gets so tricky, because the further you are in lala land, the more you have to navigate using its rules. Its like when you are used to play baseball with a baseball bat, but the bat has turned into a shoe, so you now have to figure out how to use it to score a home-run.
That's the stage where i will be 100% lost without a tour guide. Some iob has to want to show me some extreme secret about your reality.
Like a hidden gem in plain sight. Or an eye carved on my wall, that actually turned out to be a attention shifting portal.
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u/Juann2323
8 points2022-09-19 23:36
It is so great to have the J Curve, because we know at least what to expect from sorcery progress.
And it gives indicators that help us to be honest.
But I was thinking, what new people could truly gain while seeing these pictures is the habit of practice.
Because at first, we absolutely depend of Intent Gifts that we all get, but always ignore.
The practice makes us aware of those Gifts, and makes it possible to use them.
Last week Fairy gave me such a wonderful demostration, about things I had forgotten.
I mostly can't remember them right now!
But for some reason they changed the direction of my practice, into solid progress.
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u/NotYourCommonWitcher
3 points2022-09-20 00:19
Hello there! I sometimes am able to see multicolored spots, or stains, with my eyes, specially in darkness. From bright green to purple and pink, is it a part of the same darkroom experiences?
Also, one night, i was walking down my living room in complete darkness to turn the lights on, after having woken up from a nap. As tired as I was, looked down to my feet, and i could see some sort of purple-ish aura coming from out of my two feet. Then lost my concentration and lost the sight too. Any insights on this, too? Thanks in advance! I've been trying to get to the "seeing" state, but it's taking me some time.
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u/Juann2323
7 points2022-09-20 00:30
Sure, those are signs of the assemblage point shifting around the blue zone.
In fact you can get it to stay sideways after a nap.
It feels like "weird moodies", and it can show little details if you gaze at a surface.
Sometimes I even get a cartoon to animate right after waking up, without practicing!
But you need to move further to get the useful stuff.
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u/NotYourCommonWitcher
2 points2022-09-20 00:36
Thanks a lot! I've read almost half of the books, up until to Eagle's Gift, and i had already managed to have enough power to start to delve into the other side, but i stopped practicing due to some personal stuff. Would you be kind enough to help me recapitulate some of the ways to gather power? I still only practice detachment and the death as a counselor, with the occasional not-doing. But i feel it's not enough.
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u/Juann2323
5 points2022-09-20 02:38
Darkrooming is all about looking for power.
In fact, you can learn to perceive "power" in pure state!
It becomes a concrete thing down there.
The old seers were no joking with that.
We know stories about the wonders they could do.
The ways of looking for power you talk about definitely help.
They are lessons for the first attention.
But they won't do the work.
All these years, the whole Castaneda community trusted in the warrior thing, and nobody learned to do any magic.
That type of advice really makes sense once you start moving the assemblage point.
You realize the actual practical side of it.
Meanwhile, stick to the purple puffs!
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u/NotYourCommonWitcher
2 points2022-09-21 02:36
Get it! They're only a complement to the whole thing. Guess I'll stick to keep the puffs in my regular attention, and "see" where they take me. Thanks a lot, Mr!
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u/Juann2323
2 points2022-09-21 20:10
Actually, "seeing" is all we can rely on in this path.
And it is a problem that "green zone seeing" is still not accurate enough for getting Silent Knowledge.
So people who gets there is still too confused, and susceptible to deviations.
The J Curve path is the key!
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u/Jake-A25
2 points2022-09-26 02:42
Yepp, new favorote subreddit😎
So do Out of Body Experiences relate any? Back in high school id leave my body sometimes 3 times a week but now im lucky to have one a month.
When i lie down at night sometimes i also see blue/green colors or "mists" but ive always assumed my eyes were going bad! (I have eye floaters and see flashes.)
So maybe i should be more aware next time i see colors when resting? Awesome post!😎
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u/Juann2323
4 points2022-09-26 19:49
You can't really use lucid dreaming or "OBE's" for learning sorcery.
There is nothing wrong with it, but they won't do the work.
Unless you are a witch. Once they realize about their power, they have amazing talent.
And yeah, those are the colors we motivate people to find.
The truth is you have to put serious effort to do waking dreaming stuff.
Seeing them for 15 minits before sleeping won't give results.
We advice at least 2-3 hours of silence practice.
If you are interested, keep reading in the subreddit!
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u/Jake-A25
1 points2022-09-30 02:45
Right on😎 ill be sticking around.
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u/SeaworthinessDeep973
1 points2023-09-16 04:01
So I can't try to take advantage and just go with the experience until the dream objects are stable, then I can take advantage? Like do the cooler stuff?
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37 Comments
Inspired by the practices of these last days, and remembering the barriers at each level of the J Curve.
5 is the minimum level for the techniques of the books!
Can you share your practice routine and duration?
I'm busy with work during the day and am so pretty tired to practice at night beyond an hour or so. If I wake up and try early in the morning, then I am not able to get enough sleep especially considering that I work out a lot so need plenty of rest to recover.
I don't follow a practice routine.
In fact I usually don't know when I'm going to practice, until I practice.
The afternoons work very good these days, but I also like the nights.
And I neither worry about the time anymore. I instead try to make the practice duration more efficient, to avoid deviations.
But that's just my experience right now.
It could be good to have a routine at first, in order to create the discipline.
And we loved to put the "timing" in the pictures, like how much time we needed for getting the magic.
It just ends up being not really useful.
That makes sense.
Once you do find magic, are there certain things in particular that you are attempting to do? Is it part entertainment and part utility?
I try to get as far in the J Curve as possible, each practice.
The key always end up being moving further.
Each confusion you get in the practice, is solved by moving to the next station.
And the rewards are greater!
During the practice I do magical passes, stretching and sit to gaze.
But you can't avoid the hard work of getting silent.
That's what makes this work!
If you were asking specific details about the magic, you can try almost anythinf you want.
Holding visible magic in the hands and putting it into the belly is what Zuleica teached Carlos to do.
The possibilities are endless, since details end up appearing all around in the room.
You can even move them, or put them together to create a power object.
As I put in the picture, the stuff ends up being self explanatory. You will discover it just by playing!
Is all your practice in addition to sleep (around 8 hours) or does being in heightened awareness helps reduce the number of hours of sleep you need?
Also, I have seen multiple perspectives on when to do the magical passes. Some say to do it after you have become silent (where you can see the passes/energy). Others say to do the passes in order to become silent. Is it a bit of both?
I separate practice and sleep, so I couldn't tell you if you need more or less hours.
Heightened awareness is refreshing, and you don't feel tired.
But it doesn't last forever, and you still feel the lack of sleep.
> I have seen multiple perspectives on when to do the magical passes.
Try and tell me!
In fact, doing Magical Passes along the whole practice is wonderful.
Each one could produce a specific effect.
And practice without them is way harder.
As someone that is just starting to see, I do magical passes during dark room.
Stay silent during the passes and you might start to feel a shift while you’re doing them. You’ll know what that means when you experience it.
While learning passes I like to make the room dark and set the iPad on the dresser, and follow along with the video, doing the passes. Then I’ll sit and gaze, forcing silence and trying to keep going deeper. Eventually I can tell I need more magical passes so I’ll do the ones I remember, or start over watching the video and then back to darkness.
It’s a good way to be efficient with your time while you’re learning the movements and it works.
How long do you usually practice?
I’d be embarrassed to answer that truthfully BUT last night I spent about 45 minutes watching the video and doing tensegrity, then maybe an hour sitting and gazing, with some movements interspersed.
That was enough to get things moving and start to see hazy blobs and coloured sparkles.
There’s a reason 3 hours is recommended. I spent the first far-too-long only just sitting in the dark trying to be silent and “waiting for something to happen”. That was a mistake, I didnt understand the instructions properly and I got no-where
Can you elaborate on why you would consider it a mistake to sit and force silence? You were missing tensegrity?
Can you elaborate on why you would consider it a mistake to sit and force silence? You were missing tensegrity?
Can you elaborate on what you mean by making practice more efficient? Less fantasizing and more silence?
Something you learn after practicing for a long time, is that just sitting and forcing silence is no guarantee of magic.
In fact, you could do a very good session of Magical Passes, try to force silence for hours, and still have nothing going on.
And there are some days where the opposite seems to be true.
You almost do nothing, and a REALLY cool thing happens.
So you wonder if you can actually change the success.
Sorcery has no procedures!
It is all about summoning an external force in order to help you.
There are certain ways to produce that inexplicable thing easier, or faster.
It is related to our Will, but also to some type of attitude.
Don Juan talked about Intent requirements, and gave lessons on that topic to Carlos.
But in a practical side, there is no other way of learning that than just getting inside the darkroom.
When you do your very best each practice and don't care about other motivations than learning, you get "gifts".
Gifts are the Spirit moving our assemblage point, to a place where we 'shouldn't be'.
And then we have to keep moving to reach that place on our own.
It is full of lessons along the way!
Bottom line, there is really such thing as "the link to Intent", and it is what matters to make the practice efficient!
Looks good to me!
I'm beginning to suspect that trying to explain past step 5 seems to just depress beginners.
And it infuriates bad players.
Probably people who teach normal skills like soccer or carpentry, understand how to pace out the skill learning.
We'll get this right when I start making cartoons.
We can plan them in order, so no one gets too far ahead of themselves. It's so much more work to make one of those than a simple picture, that it's important to plan them.
Maybe just "how to find a puff".
Then, "what to do with puffs".
Then, "How to build a freeway overpass in your darkroom so you can stage insurance fraud"?
It actually is the next step, after "what to do with puffs"!
But perhaps a different title like, "How to move the assemblage point sideways"
Or "Sliding Dreaming" as Fancy named it.
I imagine! I even had to plan this one, because it had too many steps inside.
And also used 2000x2000 instead of 1000x1000.
It is annoying when it doesn't fit balanced, and you have to re adapt the main idea just because of the size.
Yeah, you are probably right; at least for the public subreddit.
We still get people who confuses darkroom with lucid dreaming!
It would be an accurate confusion if they were actually animating dreams in the darkness, to the point they fall asleep.
But they can't see the puffs, and pick up advanced inventory. That's harmful for the practice.
About the advanced subreddit, I find it useful to read about the cool things, even if I can't still do them.
It is better to keep some things fresh!
Got very interested about the "Usefulness of SK" ideas of that last post, and the comparison between different ages of man.
I think some of the confusion is coming from the fact that men and women perceive things very differently when beginning this form of magic. A female (or maybe just me) will shift assemblage points randomly when walking down the street. (of course, the inorganic is assisting this process and it isn't exactly will)
Adding a darkroom that you enter at night, and a strict practice of forcing silence... is just very similar to entering an altered state or lucid dreaming state.
Someone should make a map about how to realize you have shifted assemblage points in everyday life. Things can get incredibly uncomfortable.
Sometimes when I go sit in my darkroom the inorganic completely ignores me so i go there to rest.
There are daylight maps around the subreddit!
In fact, the visible magic is mostly equivalent.
I believe the moodies you talk about take place around the blue and green zone.
Not really worth to map those, because they are hard to describe.
That's why we use the puffs for the darkness.
We could use other stuff, like sounds!
Also, keep in mind women also see the stuff. Just ask Lida!
hi! i have a problem.. when i start to feel my AP move i get too "excited" and kinda "lose it".. back to the blue zone.
How i can overcome this? any tips? more practice?
This happens during blackroom pratice..
It's normal! That's called a "dirty link to intent".
It's what sorcery is! Overcoming that. And the other things that come along, once you get past that.
Yeah, those are blue zone- green zone side effects.
It is related to "what we expect" of practice.
I had the HORRIBLE habit of thinking I was getting enlightened, each time I got to the green zone.
Too much OSHO and Eckhart Tolle. Really bad guys.
That's our greedy part. Dan named it 'the book deal mind'.
If you get silent enough, you will realize you can actually make the choice of not getting interested in it.
We have them because we let them happen, and they can be avoided in the same way.
In fact, it frees a lot of energy to stop feeding that personal importance greed.
Thank you guys! i'm really grateful for the textwalls!
what are the red zone and orange zone effects? what I experience there is very uncomfortable, but of course i am still recapitulating.
The red zone and orange zone are really complex.
To the point we probably didn't discover most of them yet.
Carlos even had to advice us an "ideal path" to stick to, in order to avoid deviations.
The practice ends up taking place in phantom rooms, with all type of inorganic realms and dream worlds.
Look at the J Curve diagram!
We know the old seers loved the red zone, because of it's practical side. And they loved "power".
Wow, amazing picture with amazing clarity.
I have a feeling i need to put a phantom copy of this post on my wall...
When i get to step 5, I usually have to find the path to the next step. There is no procedure for some reason. You just have to know when you're there.
I guess that's why it gets so tricky, because the further you are in lala land, the more you have to navigate using its rules. Its like when you are used to play baseball with a baseball bat, but the bat has turned into a shoe, so you now have to figure out how to use it to score a home-run.
That's the stage where i will be 100% lost without a tour guide. Some iob has to want to show me some extreme secret about your reality.
Like a hidden gem in plain sight. Or an eye carved on my wall, that actually turned out to be a attention shifting portal.
It is so great to have the J Curve, because we know at least what to expect from sorcery progress.
And it gives indicators that help us to be honest.
But I was thinking, what new people could truly gain while seeing these pictures is the habit of practice.
Because at first, we absolutely depend of Intent Gifts that we all get, but always ignore.
The practice makes us aware of those Gifts, and makes it possible to use them.
Last week Fairy gave me such a wonderful demostration, about things I had forgotten.
I mostly can't remember them right now!
But for some reason they changed the direction of my practice, into solid progress.
Hello there! I sometimes am able to see multicolored spots, or stains, with my eyes, specially in darkness. From bright green to purple and pink, is it a part of the same darkroom experiences?
Also, one night, i was walking down my living room in complete darkness to turn the lights on, after having woken up from a nap. As tired as I was, looked down to my feet, and i could see some sort of purple-ish aura coming from out of my two feet. Then lost my concentration and lost the sight too. Any insights on this, too? Thanks in advance! I've been trying to get to the "seeing" state, but it's taking me some time.
Sure, those are signs of the assemblage point shifting around the blue zone.
In fact you can get it to stay sideways after a nap.
It feels like "weird moodies", and it can show little details if you gaze at a surface.
Sometimes I even get a cartoon to animate right after waking up, without practicing!
But you need to move further to get the useful stuff.
Thanks a lot! I've read almost half of the books, up until to Eagle's Gift, and i had already managed to have enough power to start to delve into the other side, but i stopped practicing due to some personal stuff. Would you be kind enough to help me recapitulate some of the ways to gather power? I still only practice detachment and the death as a counselor, with the occasional not-doing. But i feel it's not enough.
Darkrooming is all about looking for power.
In fact, you can learn to perceive "power" in pure state!
It becomes a concrete thing down there.
The old seers were no joking with that.
We know stories about the wonders they could do.
The ways of looking for power you talk about definitely help.
They are lessons for the first attention.
But they won't do the work.
All these years, the whole Castaneda community trusted in the warrior thing, and nobody learned to do any magic.
That type of advice really makes sense once you start moving the assemblage point.
You realize the actual practical side of it.
Meanwhile, stick to the purple puffs!
Get it! They're only a complement to the whole thing. Guess I'll stick to keep the puffs in my regular attention, and "see" where they take me. Thanks a lot, Mr!
Actually, "seeing" is all we can rely on in this path.
And it is a problem that "green zone seeing" is still not accurate enough for getting Silent Knowledge.
So people who gets there is still too confused, and susceptible to deviations.
The J Curve path is the key!
Yepp, new favorote subreddit😎
You can't really use lucid dreaming or "OBE's" for learning sorcery.
There is nothing wrong with it, but they won't do the work.
Unless you are a witch. Once they realize about their power, they have amazing talent.
And yeah, those are the colors we motivate people to find.
The truth is you have to put serious effort to do waking dreaming stuff.
Seeing them for 15 minits before sleeping won't give results.
We advice at least 2-3 hours of silence practice.
If you are interested, keep reading in the subreddit!
Right on😎 ill be sticking around.
So I can't try to take advantage and just go with the experience until the dream objects are stable, then I can take advantage? Like do the cooler stuff?
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