Men Versus Women on the Path of Sorcery

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Out at the far end of the J curve, you get teachers.

Silent Knowledge Entities.

Some take a very specific form, and can even serve you tea. Such as Porfirio, the SKE of Nestor. An old Mazatec Indian like don Genaro, except it's unlikely Porfirio ever actually lived.

But some are just a sentient waking dreaming "fog", filled to the brink with knowledge. Which despite being just a vapor filled with visible "things", has a goal and the purpose of teaching you what you wanted to learn.

I was watching such a fog last night, and kept finding "shortcuts". And passages. Into deeper realms of reality.

If I examined one, it opened up like one of those movies where Dr. Strange style sorcerers make buildings mutate and bend, to create new paths.

At one point I found a clear spot and told my ally 'Fancy', "It's clear in there! See if you can materialize full sized at that spot in the room."

It gets very weird out at the deep end of the J curve pool.

Fancy said, "But you're missing all the cool shortcuts! Don't you feel that one up there?"

I glanced up and felt a sort of odd multi-color buzzing. A thing I used to "remember" as a child.

It was a "truer" view of the world around me. One free from worry, instead of the one forced on me by my family that was brimming with grief.

Except that as a child I could never remember it everyday, and if you skipped too many days of looking for it, it became impossible to find.

I told Fancy, "A lot of good that will do me. It's #6 tonight. And I can't retain the memory of such passages longer than a few minutes.

Besides, there's so many it's not even good to write those down. Men who want to pretend their sorcery will find one they truly believe they saw, or one they can lie about and don't believe anyone can catch them in the lie, and won't follow the only working path we seem to have. They'll leave the tiring path to go seek attention on the side."

Fancy said, "The women can already see all of those. But they've seen so many none feel worth emphasizing. So they don't have an advantage over men in the long run. Isn't that what you've been wanting to learn lately? Glance down there, and follow it!!!"

So I did. A few minutes later I found I could compress magical objects using the tensegrity pass never shown at workshops: Pandora's box.

Carlos emphasized it with the claim he was finally going to show us magic in private class, right in our face. There was a 2 week buildup to showing us, with specific women seemingly selected to spread rumors about it.

But when the time came, no one could perceive what the pass was doing. And Carlos had a big grin on his face like that didn't matter. It only added to the long list of grievances private class people had been building up, in anticipation of the death of Carlos.

Later I discovered you can form the puffs of purple into Golems using that magical pass.

Dreadful black hooded style zombie assistants who can stick around for at least a full day, if you keep giving them attention.

Or fun power objects.

In "the shift below" that pass has nearly unlimited power to manifest things.

Now it seems, that pass isn't entirely meant for the red zone. It functions best in the purple areas of the J curve.

Fancy said, "Over here in the purple zone you can see this clearly. The hands add intent. That's all they ever did. That pass is the ESSENCE of Tensegrity."

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u/demonwillori 1 points 2022-10-18 18:39

Is there a video of pandora box passes?

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-10-18 21:55

Not yet, but it'll be one of the first I animate.

Just that picture.

It changes completely depending on where you do it along the J curve.

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u/Willing_Brick_2698 1 points 2022-10-19 11:11

Dan, I have something that I need to say and it has nothing to do with the topic of the post. Can bad people abuse this science? For example, a prisoner can turn himself into a fly or a mosquito and escape from prison.Or a person turns himself into another person(I don't know if this is possible or not) and kills someone! Or bad countries employ magicians to spy on other countries through the body of energy or in silent knowledge or inorganics. And many other things... well, do you think it is the right thing to spread this magical knowledge? Does not this science make the world unsafe?

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u/danl999 5 points 2022-10-19 17:25

No, because in order to do it you have to move your assemblage point past "self-pity", or the obsession with a "you" that needs to gain respect and objects from others.

No one who had done that would allow themselves to engage in bad behavior, because it creates "debts".

And sorcery is all about undoing all the ties to this world, so you can move further.

Not to mention, the rewards of sorcery exceed ANYTHING in this blue river of shit world we're stuck in.

However, the old seers might have been able to do what you suggest.

Perhaps.

Except I would expect any "bad magic" they did was directed at "Men of Knowledge".

What I presume to be their enemies, based on what's happening to us. And fair game since they claim to be following a similar path.

They're the profiteers of the magic world. Who haven't perfected themselves, and use rituals and drugs instead, because it's profitable. And are superstitious to the extreme.

Frankly, they likely had it coming. As we've seen in here when bad men attack.

But even if what I said is true, there is one sure "danger" from sorcery.

Witches like Cholita. She might indeed murder me one day.

But based on confusion and mental illness such as Zuleica, Zoila, and Josefina had.

Not based on logical reasoning.

And if she did, it might be kind of fun to watch.

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u/nfowler1 2 points 2022-10-19 20:30

> And sorcery is all about undoing all the ties to this world, so you can move further.

Does work make that difficult? Do you find it hard to interact with your co-workers or friends who are still firmly stuck in the river of shit? Or, does that give you an opportunity to practice stalking?

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-10-19 21:03

They're like children eventually.

Do you get angry with 3 year olds?

It makes everything easier. Just don't mention sorcery to anyone. Real magic brings hate. Whether the people "are in to that" or not. The real thing is hated by all.

Otherwise, it's like finally growing up. Everyone else stops at 14.

However, it's easy to fall into the trap of feeling you are "giving things up".

It's not true at all. That's our blue zone personality trying to stop us from leaving.

"Mr. DoubleTake" I suppose.

Or "the human form".

That's one reason I don't recommend giving ANYTHING up. Do as you have always done, until you have a very specific need for more energy.

Only give things up, to get something better.

Never give things up, "Because the guru said that will help me go faster".

He just wants your money. The more you obey, the more he can demand.

Carlos had a trick.

If he wanted you to do something, he'd let you know.

At the first sign you didn't want to do that, he'd remove the invitation.

Completely. It was as if he never even asked, or the whole thing had just been a joke.

He didn't want his requests to turn into burdens.

I know. I got some doozies of a request.

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u/nfowler1 2 points 2022-10-19 21:41

At the first sign you didn't want to do that, he'd remove the invitation.

Like the invitation to walk from LA to San Diego on foot?

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u/danl999 2 points 2022-10-19 22:39

That one he didn't remove without a trace because it was an "offer from infinity".

Which we turned down. He had to use that as a teaching example.

I mean, personal stuff he wanted you to do.

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u/nfowler1 1 points 2022-10-20 03:18

I mean, personal stuff he wanted you to do.

Do you mean like cutting off all family and friend ties or burning any and all photographs you have?

Was that something you had to do? I know you already mentioned not to do anything prematurely citing the example of the man who started business with zero prep.

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-10-20 14:20

No, in fact I had left my family in my teens but Carlos sent me back.

I mean personal stuff like buy his Pandora house, or become Florinda's lover.

Don't distract yourself from finding puffs and moving your assemblage point!

Don't get confused into thinking this is like Hinduism or Daoism, where you eat a special diet, wear weird clothes, and talk funny. Just make some minor behavior changes, and that'll help you.

It won't. That's the fake magic systems.

You can't pretend your way to sorcery knowledge. It's been tried for 50 years. Didn't work even once.

Magic. That's what you want.

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u/nfowler1 2 points 2022-10-20 15:41

I was able to create a closet in the house to practice darkroom. Working towards 2-3 hrs per day. The only downside is that it's small enough to not allow movement besides standing making it hard to practice tensegrity. So, is it okay to modify some of the tensegrity moves like running man, mashing energy and lifesaver pass so that it can be done either standing or sitting?

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u/danl999 3 points 2022-10-20 15:59

Yes, absolutely. I do that all the time.

You can even not "turn around" if necessary, and just turn the torso a tiny bit in the right direction.

Life saver can be done sitting.

Mashing energy likely not as well. Learn running man for that.

Also try to use your palms and hands more to smooth and stir the air. Learn the "claw hand" pass (easy), and "pandora's box".

I'll animate those soon.

Claw hand makes the lines in the hand visible, and can stir reality to become individual emanation clusters you can manipulate.

You can literally make "wisps". Little Fairies made of thin smoke lines.

Get them to dance for you.

But that's off in SK territory. Until then, the claw hand can produce lots of other cool effects.

Remember, find some magic, then focus on that to shut off the internal dialogue even more.

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u/nfowler1 1 points 2022-10-20 18:13

Claw hand makes the lines in the hand visible, and can stir reality to become individual emanation clusters you can manipulate.

Does it also get intensely red? I have experienced something similar where after a long session (almost 3 hours) of forcing silence, my palm looked red with thin lines all over it (hard to describe).

Even the trees looked different. Normally they just appear as objects, but I could sense them as living breathing beings with scaly skin (almost like reptile's).

And, i had a tremendous amount of respect and consideration for them along with any bugs in the surroundings which is strange because normally I'm really bothered by bugs of any kind.

I have never bothered sharing about this experience with anyone from real life because it's like attempting to converse with someone who speaks a foreign language and you can't use hand signs either.

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u/danl999 2 points 2022-10-20 18:33

No, the hands go away in that mode. You only have fibers of light in their place.

I think you might be pretending your experiences. No way to say for sure, but it sure has the feel of trying hard to the point of making them up.

The way Asian magical systems do.

Just wait until you get some experiences that can't possibly be made up.

Here's a test.

Tell someone.

If they say, "Yea, I can see that. I've felt similar things."

Then it's probably make believe.

If they say, "You fucking lie!!! Were you on drugs or something???"

Then it's probably not.

You really can't cheat the system in here.

So put that out of your mind. You either work until blood drips from your nose, and finally get silent enough to see a piece of your energy body, or you give up.

I suppose you could also try recap, but so far that hasn't produced the kind of results it ought to, in the majority of the Castaneda population.

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u/Willing_Brick_2698 1 points 2022-10-20 08:08

>However, the old seers might have been able to do what you suggest.

If I remember correctly, the old seers were bad and had bad magic. So the new seers can be bad and have bad magic.

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u/danl999 4 points 2022-10-20 15:19

The new seers deviated slightly from what the old seers did.

They followed them to the very end, but then they changed it.

So you see oddities like the old seers believing God is real, but the new seers knowing the truth of that.

Or that once they were capable of it, the old seers stretched their luminous egg shape into that of a pipe (the kind you smoke).

So that they took in more emanations from man's band. More human stuff, but "known human regions" behind your back.

They were obsessed with humans and being more powerful than others.

The new seers instead stretch to an infinite line, venturing out to sample the awareness of stars.

As in the "Stellar Hatch" pass.

Which works by the way!

At any rate, we don't live in Olmec times where there was a real sorcerer behind every bush. And Men of Knowledge, willing to sell you magic for wild game or valuable resources.

It's next to impossible for people coming in here to ever learn any real sorcery.

And completely impossible outside this domain. For now.

Nearly all who come here will not, because they aren't willing to change their lifestyle.

So much more so for bad people.

There's no chance in hell for anyone like you describe to learn.

Maybe back in Olmec or Toltec times, but not anymore.

You're picturing fake magical systems, and the pretend learning they advertise.

So within pretend magic, sure. Bad guys can pretend as well as good guys.

Sorcery isn't anything at all like that. You only achieve it, by removing the bad parts of ourselves.