Hello everyone I was reading about Recapitulation more and more from the books and I realised I’m doing everything wrong, as usual I believe I was going too fast. I can’t help notice the series of questions popping all over my space nagging me to come here and ask.
So I really have a good memory and can remember a lot of things since age 4 or 5 probably. It might be because I usually spend my days alone and the events just come and go.
I want to ask about the usher event or the main event that fixated the A.p. I remember fuzzy colors and a distortion of colors and sounds close by and very far away. I could say I was in wonder and in terror of this unknown.
**A follow up question could be if LASTING inner silence could be acquired from recapitulating the usher? **
I suppose this is an usher event, if I’m not mistaken.
is the intent to arrive and open a gate to the level of awareness before the assemblage point was totally fixated?
Ok so once the usher event is recapitulated can anyone share their experiences ?
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If anyone here is doing well with recapitulation
please share what you recount on the before and after of how relaxed your A.p got after recap.
Lastly are there any chapters upon which recapitulation is discussed outside the wiki here or to be more clear anything regarding the event or the usher?
I was thinking about reading the books from last to first but figured while practicing recapitulating would be best to make better use of time or maybe should I do a really good recap while jumping around key chapters and books
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You can't force The Usher memory.
Just keep on recapping, and if it happens for us rogue agents, it will...of it's own accord.
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There's 2 "usher topics" related to recapitulation.
One, when a "chair became a chair".
That one seems kind of important. It's when our tonal awareness finally got trapped in our physical body. Before that, it was just visiting.
The other was found by someone trying to get out of work.
It was a "gotcha" against my insistence everyone needs to work hard.
By someone who wouldn't. And was later found to be making up experiences to get attention.
To me, that one just seemed to be an obvious ploy by don Juan to motivate Carlos to put in more time.
And almost completely irrelevant to our situation.
It was the first time an event was "relived" in detail by Carlos.
Any event. Didn't matter which.
However, that happens in Silent Knowledge!
Which we can reach, thanks to the instructions Carlos gave us. Which Carlos gave us as our main goal!
And keep in mind, Carlos was being pushed all over the place by the Nagual's blow, and had no idea at all how to get to silent knowledge on his own power.
Getting there once in recapitulation mode, might indeed have been enough so he could repeat that. Because don Juan had already created "phantom spaces" over there, for him to recognize and stay in.
It won't go that way for us! We don't have any "flat spots" worn by don Juan's striking and deforming our egg. And no experiences "way out there" to fall into.
As usual people take things out of context if they can get out of doing work by using the misunderstanding as an excuse.
And in the books, there's 2 different points of view going on.
The "Men of Knowledge" path Carlos needed to learn to get his PhD.
And the real path, done in secret from heightened awareness.
The Men of Knowledge never learned to see.
They had to use rituals, power plants, and allies to do magic.
We don't have the rituals, and most of you don't have the allies.
And power plants are damaging.
So the Men of Knowledge path is impossible and useless.
Anyone stuck on that, will fail to even get out of the starting gate.
I mention it, because "Journey to Ixtlan" has a "story" in the background, which is obviously bogus. It makes a good example of how you have to read carefully, and take things in context. Sometimes, the story is just to motivate, and not actually true.
The story being that poor Genaro lost Ixlan as a result of "spinning with the Ally".
The way it's described, you can see a little tear form at the edge of his eye, as he tells Carlos he's still looking.
Really?
Silent Knowledge makes you almost godlike!
There's no way you'd long for the river of shit you lived in before.
More likely is, you'd see the horrors you lived, in Ixtlan. And be amazed you managed to escape.
And you don't need to "spin" with the ally.
You can just give them a stern lecture.
Works the same!
Plus, that wasn't even don Genaro telling that tale.
It was his double.
The books are not a "bible", and should never be read that way.
Evaluate whether something is applicable to your situation.
And make sure it's not "Men of Knowledge" superstitions.
Also make sure you aren't trying to do something specific, to get out of learning to be silent.
That's usually book deal thinking!
I suppose putting a good effort into recap is as good as learning silence, but you'll be at HUGE RISK of giving up before you see enough to be safe.
Life will pull you back in.
If you make up your mind to learn, I'd say you have 6 months tops before you'd better start seeing real magic.
Otherwise you'll burn out.
Keep in mind, NO ONE did recap as their only path to learn sorcery.
They would all have quit.
They did so much recap, because they had an entire lineage of sorcerers showing them mind boggling magic outside the recapitulation booth.
We don't.
They actually did recap to get more dreaming energy. To use when journeying under someone else's power, such as Emilito.
As a community, our leaders have fallen into giving the impression recapitulation is all there is to this.
It's very sad.
I should add, what's the point of the second usher event?
You can't make that happen!
It's just mental masturbation to think about it as if it were important to any of us.
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It is in fact true that chair silence is the second fastest path.
Gazing is by far the fastest, but I could never get anyone to keep it up.
I've spend the last 25 years since Carlos died, trying to get even one person to see some real sorcery magic.
They saw some with gazing! But oddly, they got the impression they themselves were just "forcing" the weirdness to appear.
There's some "flaw" in fern or leaf gazing, which keeps it from motivating people to keep working.
I think it's the sunlight issue myself.
But chair silence is VERY impressive, if you master it. And fully compatible with recapitulation.
Inorganic beings galore, remote viewing, manifesting objects that are fully stable, silent knowledge presentations of answers to your problems.
I got $7-8M in sales one year, from a silent knowledge presentation during chair silence. And kicked Nintendo's butt in court.
You can also walk directly out of the chair, and into your double.
Or float over the city, to travel anywhere you like.
BUT... Never, ever, get into the habit of finding "checklist items" to satisfy yourself that you are making progress.
That's death to sorcery.
If you tell yourself "I found the usher!".
Or, "I folded in half the way Carlos did while learning from Zuleica".
If you pick any "Tale of Power" from the books, and think it means anything important if you do that, you'll fail.
I don't mean to say, cool magic isn't wonderful!
But only as an omen that if you work even harder you can get even more.
If it occurs to you that you could included that in your future book deal, or to promote your sorcery classes, you'll never get anywhere.
Chair silence lends itself to that kind of mistake, the way meditation systems do.
And no one gets anywhere worth going, with meditation. All you have to do to see that, is use google honestly.
They just get to the green line on the J curve and it goes to their head, because so few others even go that far.
It's barely cool at all. An experienced darkroomer doesn't even dwell in the green zone of the J curve anymore.
It becomes more like their normal daily state, than something unusual.
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