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Sorcery and preservation of youth?
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Dint Castaneda speak about recap, stalking and how it makes the sorcerer stay youthful. However, Castaneda did not stay youthful his life, he became pretty much old, from what I have seen. Any thoughts on preservation of youth?
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It saves awareness and energy, which in turn brings a sorta youthful vitality. You cannot escape death though, ur body still ages lol. Don juan is described as being very agile and strong esp for his age, don juan was still noticably older. Carlos also had to focus a lot of his time on teaching rather than on himself, which probably played into his death
thanks for your response
Cholita can lower her apparent physical age by around 10 years in her physical body. But she can't keep it up.
And 30 years in her double. Which she can do anytime.
But you kind of have to keep in mind, both don Juan and Genaro were USUALLY in their double when Carlos saw them.
As was Zuleica.
Could be, most of the senior lineage people were. If you go back to the first books, don Juan warns Carlos never to reveal the location of a sorcery's body. A strange comment back then, and not repeated.
But the implications might be that most teaching of apprentices or interactions in the real world, are done in sorcerer's doubles. With their real body home on the couch, watching TV.
Hopefully drinking beer.
And the double can alter its appearance to anything it likes!
So, we can't really read the books and understand what's going on. All we can do is read them, and know why we can't understand what's going on.
Notice when we're missing info, and it's just wishful thinking to interpret them according to the popular beliefs.
Some bad man just posted a total misunderstanding of Art of Dreaming, hoping he could go back to pretending his sorcery by misreading a few selected quotes.
I flagged it, so the post is hidden for now.
But if it returns you might want to read what I tell him about that monstrosity post.
People only notice what they wish was going on in the books before they have enough knowledge of the situation.
Then they use that to pretend their sorcery, which lead to the total destruction of the reputation of Carlos.
But they don't care. They just want to pretend.
That said...
The fact is, sorcerers are a LOT more powerful than we've been led to believe.
And my Ally Fancy showed me what Julian did, to look old or young at will.
It's in the mashing energy passes!
And there's Clara's passes for women to keep their skin smooth.
Unfortunately like all things in sorcery, it takes energy to learn to do that.
And there's 1000 better things to do with that kind of energy.
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Or you can watch here from the official passes video on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/TgiT8NvjiAQ
Mashing Energy passes start at 4:50 minutes.
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The hip movements are key. To relax so much, that it's really just your hips most of the time, with the arms encouraging them, and the legs just following.
Eventually you can see your "tentacle" body moving along, if you do it in a perfectly dark room.
And the fine tentacles spread out into the room like strings blowing in the wind, with the 2 or 3 larger ones able to sweep the floor.
But the levels of silence need to see that are "astonishing".
The one to make yourself younger is this one:
However, they're doing it WRONG!
I didn't use the video to make my own. I did it from what Carlos taught us in classes.
Kylie does the right one elsewhere.
Perhaps Carlos made it into 2?
I saw minor "changes" over the years in the passes as taught by Carlos.
Stellar Hatch has some small modifications.
But they aren't "qigong" or "Tai Chi".
Nothing is anywhere near beyond our ability to see directly with our own eyes, why it works and what other changes are possible.
That's the cool thing about sorcery.
There's no "sacred scrolls".
To make yourself younger with this, you thrust your hands down and grab the cobwebs when the knee comes up to the chest, then pull the hands up, as the foot thrusts down, as if you were ripping up some filaments of energy. Pulling them up, at the same time you force a surface down, to "rip them free".
But you have to grab "the right ones". Which don't seem to be directly under you.
And possibly someone has to "show" you which.
Fancy showed me, but it's impossible to retain that memory.
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There’s another movement just after that one, where you lift the knee up again and grab energy from the foot with both hands, then pull it up near your pouches as you thrust your foot down. It’s that move in the photo, then the high kicks front and back I think, and then the thing with the hands. Is that what you mean?
I’m concerned about doing it wrong now, I followed that video! It’s still working for me anyway, but id like to refine it if I could, to be more effective
Good to know.
Carlos made very few changes over the years.
FAR LESS than your average martial arts teacher, who drives students nuts forgetting his own Katas. And you don't get to say anything.
Even in the huge schools like the one Taisha belonged to ("Shotokan"), there's running jokes among the Senpai students about which "masters" forget their katas, and the excuses they come up with.
But Carlos did change a few things.
Some maybe for practical reasons.
Stellar Hatch might best be done, letting the students look up and send the ball into space, or find it 2 stories down, until they REALLY see that ball doing that, vividly.
But imagine the attention seekers at workshops, still standing there 20 minutes later, making everyone wait for them.
So he said "6 seconds" in Maui, and "10 seconds" in the video.
I wish I could give permission to make that 2 minutes if needed, but all we have is the intent we were given.
And in fact, there is NO fixed reality.
Things are not like we believe.
The Olmec path is also NOT an alternate reality.
It is quite simply "what they came up with".
It's just a lot cooler than the one we have.
The main thing they might have done, but that's not proven, is try to see "what's behind it all".
The emanations certainly seem to be that.
And easy to perceive. You'll all get to stare right into them in various forms, if you just don't give up.
Cool.
But I'm banned from reading stuff written by "Carlos Castaneda" or the witches.
I only read what I need to answer a specific question someone has, or which has become a barrier for me.
No one else is banned, so read away!
If you read it, notice the crazy stories to go with each pass.
Those all work!
And if you learn to make ALL of them work, one at a time, I suspect you'd be a completely powerful sorcerer as a result.
Not that anyone in his group ever did that.
Didn't need to.
They had a whole lineage to show them the way.
But still, if he gave us all of those it's kind of like Jack La Lane, who Carlos admired, giving you all the possible exercises you could do.
Old Jack couldn't really "master all of them".
But if you did that yourself...
Wow.
Water my friend. Be water.
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The first time I saw Florinda Donner Grau, I saw her from behind and thought someone had brought their 13 year old kid with them to the workshop. Her movements were so youthful and free. When she turned around and I saw her "old" face I was completely astonished.
So, youthful... yes. Young... no.