And I've noticed inaccuracies and omissions in the 1998 and earlier ones.
I do believe that they learned their passes after 1998 and never attended workshops in the 1990s, based (partially) on their age (probably younger than 20 when the workshops were being held).
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u/BBz13z
1 points2025-12-30 19:35
Thanks man.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2025-12-31 00:42
If you find a pass in our wiki and their video demonstration is the only one that's available for it, be sure to use the workshop notes written down by attendees in the 1990s to correct errors or movement omissions.
Once you're practiced at it, and this is a message to all members, do everyone a favor and make a new recording!
They are very much needed.
(and maybe make a mask if you're privacy conscious)
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
2 points2025-12-31 01:46
En la wiki hay enlaces a vídeos con pases que no están bien 😢
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2025-12-31 02:06
Consulta este comentario, también en esta publicación:
Hemos estado trabajando bajo la premisa de que un vídeo impreciso, siempre y cuando existan también notas escritas de los talleres para compararlo, es mejor que ningún vídeo... como punto de partida para aprender un pase.
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
2 points2025-12-31 02:09
👍🏼
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2025-12-31 02:10
Es muy difícil superar la barrera inicial para aprender una nueva técnica si nunca la has visto demostrada en persona y solo te basas en notas escritas.
Parece que es demasiado difícil para el practicante promedio. De ahí la utilidad de incluso un video de baja calidad, para facilitar un poco el aprendizaje (al menos).
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
2 points2025-12-31 02:22
Entiendo si son pases de los que solo hay un único registro grabado. En el caso de las series más practicadas, si desde el comienzo agarramos “vicios” luego se hace muy difícil sacarlos. Por ejemplo ese sube y baja que hace Gabrielle es muy difícil luego dejar de hacerlo. O los vaivenes en el pase de la matriz de Florinda.
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u/BBz13z
1 points2025-12-31 05:37
Hey Techno, it’s not lost on me the amount of time and effort it takes to manage this sub for, users, content, media, etc. You, Dan, Jadey and the other OG’s have done an amazing job.
I wouldn’t be practicing and personally benefitting without the sub and the people who continue to advance and maintain it.
Está bueno revisarlo de vez en cuando. Los pases, por suerte, cada vez se van ajustando más y eliminando “contaminaciones” de mezclas con otras técnicas y pases inventados.
Esto te permite cada tanto ir reemplazando por mejores.
Aquí tienes otro que no están bien los movimientos y además al hacerlo con cámara rápida el timing está acelerado al triple.
I first realized that when I considered he a source for the passes, but found she'd repeated one of them 4 times, and turned 45 degrees each time, as if it were the way the pass was done.
After that, I started to notice that most of her passes are wrong.
It's a sad thing.
On that channel, they don't even get "life saver pass" right.
I tried to correct them, and they agreed it was wrong, but then returned with a different wrong way of doing it.
AND worst of all, she doesn't care if a pass was made by Carlos, or created by Reni, Aerin, or Miles, after Carlos was gone.
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u/BBz13z
1 points2025-12-30 21:32
They’re too Lucy Goosey for me, they rush through the movements. Err, I dunno, something seems off when I watch them.
I’d like to learn the Earth Form. Maybe Jadey has it recorded.
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
4 points2025-12-30 22:09
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u/BBz13z
2 points2025-12-30 22:11
Seriously?
Oh man, i hope this the one.
Thank you
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
2 points2025-12-30 22:14
Espero que sea la que buscas, en castellano se llama “El Ser de la Tierra”
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u/BBz13z
2 points2025-12-31 03:43
The Ground Being Pass Jadey teaches is a completely different pass from the Earth Form the couple on YouTube show. It could be the Earth Form the couple show is something newer that Clear-green made up, in which case I would have to avoid it.
I’ve also seen another Ground Being Pass that uses the sticks tapped together.
The link you gave me is loaded with stuff I’m interested in trying, so I appreciate you sending it.
Thank you
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
1 points2025-12-31 10:22
👌😊
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2025-12-31 13:00
We had to move The Earth Form to one of the banished post-2001 sections:
Meaning it didn't show up until later, and we really don't know if Carol Tiggs was the one who created it.
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
1 points2025-12-31 17:19
Otra cosa que pensaba de estos vídeos, además de estar MUY mal echo los pases, es que son al aire libre. 😱 Los pases no se hacen al aire libre ni descalzo. No es fácil luego explicarlo.
“ La ejecución de los pases mágicos tal como se los presenta
en la Tensegridad no requiere necesariamente un espacio
particular o un tiempo especialmente estipulado. Sin embargo, los movimientos deberían realizarse lejos de las corrientes de aire fuertes. Don Juan les temía a las corrientes de aire sobre el cuerpo transpirado. Estaba convencido de que no todas las corrientes de aire se deben a un aumento o un descenso de la temperatura atmosférica, sino que algunas de ellas son causadas por conglomerados de campos energéticos consolidados que se
mueven a través del espacio en forma deliberada”.
Del libro “Pases Mágicos”
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
2 points2025-12-31 18:13
I added this to the main Tensegrity page, in bold, just before the summations section:
*Be aware that if any of the Tensegrity videos were recorded outside, that it is not recommended to do them barefoot or where there are strong outdoor drafts (Don Juan stated that drafts were deleterious if one is perspiring, and that not all drafts were due to an increase or decrease in atmospheric temperature; some of them are caused by clusters of consolidated energy fields that move deliberately through realities)...but our living situations and time demands are complex, and if no indoor opportunities/situations are available, it's better to practice outside than not at all.*
Some of Jade's earlier recordings were done in the mountains near her home.
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u/NiKOLiNAZ
1 points2025-12-31 18:19
👌
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u/GarthWatercutter
2 points2025-12-31 00:47
I agree. The guy on that channel, in particular, seems very oriented towards being performative. Or treating the passes merely as an exercise.
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u/BBz13z
1 points2025-12-31 08:08
Glad it’s not just me. I wasn’t being snotty, I have a hard time taking him seriously when I watch him do the passes.
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Some are, and some aren't, from the 1990s.
And I've noticed inaccuracies and omissions in the 1998 and earlier ones.
I do believe that they learned their passes after 1998 and never attended workshops in the 1990s, based (partially) on their age (probably younger than 20 when the workshops were being held).
Thanks man.
If you find a pass in our wiki and their video demonstration is the only one that's available for it, be sure to use the workshop notes written down by attendees in the 1990s to correct errors or movement omissions.
Once you're practiced at it, and this is a message to all members, do everyone a favor and make a new recording!
They are very much needed.
(and maybe make a mask if you're privacy conscious)
En la wiki hay enlaces a vídeos con pases que no están bien 😢
Consulta este comentario, también en esta publicación:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1pzqnll/tensegrity/nwty6s4/
Hemos estado trabajando bajo la premisa de que un vídeo impreciso, siempre y cuando existan también notas escritas de los talleres para compararlo, es mejor que ningún vídeo... como punto de partida para aprender un pase.
👍🏼
Es muy difícil superar la barrera inicial para aprender una nueva técnica si nunca la has visto demostrada en persona y solo te basas en notas escritas.
Parece que es demasiado difícil para el practicante promedio. De ahí la utilidad de incluso un video de baja calidad, para facilitar un poco el aprendizaje (al menos).
Entiendo si son pases de los que solo hay un único registro grabado. En el caso de las series más practicadas, si desde el comienzo agarramos “vicios” luego se hace muy difícil sacarlos. Por ejemplo ese sube y baja que hace Gabrielle es muy difícil luego dejar de hacerlo. O los vaivenes en el pase de la matriz de Florinda.
Hey Techno, it’s not lost on me the amount of time and effort it takes to manage this sub for, users, content, media, etc. You, Dan, Jadey and the other OG’s have done an amazing job.
I wouldn’t be practicing and personally benefitting without the sub and the people who continue to advance and maintain it.
I am forever grateful. Much respect 🫡
Serie de la Matriz
Serie del calor
Serie de la masculinidad
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvLSLokAPYVA8k6C4Ciykgps_edaovxa2&si=xpm37alCZek_ZhoS
I removed a few, and added some disclaimers to various sections:
https://www.reddit.com/mod/castaneda/wiki/tensegrity/core_tensegrity
Que bien!! 🤩 me hace feliz.
Está bueno revisarlo de vez en cuando. Los pases, por suerte, cada vez se van ajustando más y eliminando “contaminaciones” de mezclas con otras técnicas y pases inventados.
Esto te permite cada tanto ir reemplazando por mejores.
Aquí tienes otro que no están bien los movimientos y además al hacerlo con cámara rápida el timing está acelerado al triple.
El ser alado
I removed it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/tensegrity/animal_forms
👌
I would stick with Jade’s channel-
https://youtube.com/@sorcerypasses
And DVD volumes 1-3 which can be found here-
https://youtube.com/@sorcery_media
You’re making assumptions.
That’s nice of you…
Hay un mix y los anteriores a 1998 no tienen precisión, necesitan muchos ajustes.
Si quieres hacerlo lo más preciso es sin duda con Jade.
https://youtube.com/@sorcerypasses?si=f4aSrDtjz8ZdaXF4
Nope.
Unfortunately.
I first realized that when I considered he a source for the passes, but found she'd repeated one of them 4 times, and turned 45 degrees each time, as if it were the way the pass was done.
After that, I started to notice that most of her passes are wrong.
It's a sad thing.
On that channel, they don't even get "life saver pass" right.
I tried to correct them, and they agreed it was wrong, but then returned with a different wrong way of doing it.
AND worst of all, she doesn't care if a pass was made by Carlos, or created by Reni, Aerin, or Miles, after Carlos was gone.
They’re too Lucy Goosey for me, they rush through the movements. Err, I dunno, something seems off when I watch them.
I’d like to learn the Earth Form. Maybe Jadey has it recorded.
Seriously?
Oh man, i hope this the one.
Thank you
Espero que sea la que buscas, en castellano se llama “El Ser de la Tierra”
The Ground Being Pass Jadey teaches is a completely different pass from the Earth Form the couple on YouTube show. It could be the Earth Form the couple show is something newer that Clear-green made up, in which case I would have to avoid it.
I’ve also seen another Ground Being Pass that uses the sticks tapped together.
The link you gave me is loaded with stuff I’m interested in trying, so I appreciate you sending it.
Thank you
👌😊
We had to move The Earth Form to one of the banished post-2001 sections:
https://reddit.com/r/castaneda/w/tensegrity/animal_forms/post-2001
Meaning it didn't show up until later, and we really don't know if Carol Tiggs was the one who created it.
Otra cosa que pensaba de estos vídeos, además de estar MUY mal echo los pases, es que son al aire libre. 😱 Los pases no se hacen al aire libre ni descalzo. No es fácil luego explicarlo.
Serie de la Matriz
Serie del calor
Serie de la masculinidad
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvLSLokAPYVA8k6C4Ciykgps_edaovxa2&si=xpm37alCZek_ZhoS
“ La ejecución de los pases mágicos tal como se los presenta
en la Tensegridad no requiere necesariamente un espacio
particular o un tiempo especialmente estipulado. Sin embargo, los movimientos deberían realizarse lejos de las corrientes de aire fuertes. Don Juan les temía a las corrientes de aire sobre el cuerpo transpirado. Estaba convencido de que no todas las corrientes de aire se deben a un aumento o un descenso de la temperatura atmosférica, sino que algunas de ellas son causadas por conglomerados de campos energéticos consolidados que se
mueven a través del espacio en forma deliberada”.
Del libro “Pases Mágicos”
I added this to the main Tensegrity page, in bold, just before the summations section:
*Be aware that if any of the Tensegrity videos were recorded outside, that it is not recommended to do them barefoot or where there are strong outdoor drafts (Don Juan stated that drafts were deleterious if one is perspiring, and that not all drafts were due to an increase or decrease in atmospheric temperature; some of them are caused by clusters of consolidated energy fields that move deliberately through realities)...but our living situations and time demands are complex, and if no indoor opportunities/situations are available, it's better to practice outside than not at all.*
Some of Jade's earlier recordings were done in the mountains near her home.
👌
I agree. The guy on that channel, in particular, seems very oriented towards being performative. Or treating the passes merely as an exercise.
Glad it’s not just me. I wasn’t being snotty, I have a hard time taking him seriously when I watch him do the passes.