Is anyone actively practicing the magical passes nowadays? We do it in a studio and it's amazing. What's interesting is that my teacher told me all the videos online are doing it wrong except the videos with Kylie Lundahl.
Is there a video somewhere where she's practicing all the passes from the book? I couldn't find it and I'm really interested if we do them in the exact same way.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/tensegrity/core_tensegrity
There is no video of Kylie Lundahl practicing specific passes in the book :(
Cleargreen produced their own companion video in 1999, which is accessible via that wiki page (linked in this comment).
Thank you very much, I will watch them!
Jadey is the only one doing them correctly on a reliable basis, other than as your teacher pointed out, Kylie.
I should know better than anyone else, because I learned all of them directly from Carlos in private classes. And attended all workshops but Barcelona.
But even more so because I spent around $50,000 animating them using animators in Pakistan.
So that I could play them in cartoons and show how the visible magic they produce tends to look.
Trying to encourage people to follow the instructions of Carlos, which were that stopping the internal dialogue is MANDATORY, or the passes don't produce real magic.
They're still worth doing, but what a shame if you don't see stuff like this!
Which in case you don't know because you're new here, I do NIGHTLY!
As do perhaps 3 dozen others now.
I'd go nuts if I didn't get to see magic like this every single day. If you don't, your "self" just swallows you up whole in sorrow and grief. As you get older of course.
When you're young, you ignore it due to mating priorities. You bear the suffering, for the belief that reproduction will make it all worthwhile (which it never does).
So while thinking I'd animate all of the tensegrity moves, and then show them in a perfect copy of Dance Home where Carlos taught it, so as to preserve the possibility of time travel back to see private classes in person ( perfectly doable and part of our lineage's history), I ran into a big problem.
Everyone was doing the tensegrity wrong!
It's not surprising. The same thing happens in martial arts studios, with their "forms". And they have nowhere near as many forms as there are Tensegrity moves.
So I ran out of correct videos only halfway through the 400+ list of tensegrity moves and forms.
Techno compiled a complete list from workshop notes, but more than half were lost by bad teachers.
Our "leaders" all went bad, as Carlos predicted.
But you can trust Jadey's versions.
She was a private student.
And yes, anyone in here doing what we call "darkroom" is practicing real tensegrity.
It's next to impossible to learn our sorcery well enough to see the magical effects, without it.
This video starts with the life saver pass warmup. and even that magical pass was massacred by Reni, Nyei, Aerin, and Miles, within months of the death of CArlos.
It's bizarre that no one even does the "warmup" correctly. Seeing as how it likely extends your lifespan.
Jadey is perhaps the most famous private student of Carlos, because she was video taped talking to him outside of Dance Home.
Otherwise, bad people would deny she was a private student.
As they do with me.
Not so much with Cholita though. I never heard anyone say she wasn't a direct student of Carlos and Florinda.
Jadey was assigned to Taisha, and has access to Taisha's ally "Phoebus".
Hello, thank you for your lengthy reply. Meeting Carlos and learning directly from him must have been amazing.
"I'd go nuts if I didn't get to see magic like this every single day. If you don't, your "self" just swallows you up whole in sorrow and grief. As you get older of course." - this hits close to home. If I sink too low in the "tonal" world I do literally feel the self swallowing me up.
So, if I read your post correctly, you practice at night and see how energies move while doing the movements. That's incredible.
We sometimes see new passes in dreams and after our teacher reviews them and deems them legit, he lets us add them to our routine. I'm not that good at it yet, I know the moves but I'm frequently reminded I need to add more power and intensity to them. Stopping the inner dialogue isn't always easy either.
Are you also doing "dreaming" at night, "stalking" during the day and other practices in the books?
Lucid dreaming is the most appealing practice for me at the moment, I love it and it comes easier than others.
>We sometimes see new passes in dreams and after our teacher reviews them and deems them legit, he lets us add them to our routine.
So you've been victimized by a faker who wants your money and attention.
Sad.
Better study in here until you can clearly see you're being "date raped".
he's definitely not a faker but thanks for the advice.
You're in the wrong place for pretending.
Better find another chat room.
This one is for the real thing only.
ok thanks , you're very nice
"Nice" = profit motivation.
I'm sure your "teacher" is very nice indeed. Despite utterly misleading you down a path that results only in total failure.
Also the truth is, I told you exactly what you badly need to hear, if you ever hope to make this sorcery actually work.
And I'm kind of happy to see you here. We have a continuous series of attacks, as warned by Carlos himself.
There's a force out there that tries to destroy real magic, because real sorcerers are no longer a food supply for them.
Thus we've gotten an average of 3 attacks per week, for 6 years now.
The mods are always on the lookout for the next.
But instead of the usual attacks from the outside, as Carlos got for years while private classes were being held, pointing each one out to his students so they'd learn about it, we've got some internal struggles lately.
Same as Carlos got, oddly...
Sorcery learning tends to repeat the past in what seems to be magical ways.
It's nice to get an ordinary "external attack" again, and in particular, an "external" attack which pretends to be a comrade.
It's kind of like a mutation between having problems from within, and from without.
Fascinating!
I'll have to search my memory to find out what else happened to Carlos towards the end.
We already snatched back a student he was unhappy to have lost.
He wanted to sell his home on Pandora, so maybe figuring out what he wanted it to become, is worth considering.
Carol Tiggs said that cyclic beings never get along.
Do you remember more about it, or key words to use to find it?
I'm actually temporarily at that stage, due to searching for Cholita.
It makes me wonder about the trick where the previous lineage kidnaps the new Nagual woman, to keep the nagual of the new generation, in line.
Except Cholita just ran away again.
It's something she said during a workshop.
During a workshop I realized I do not like Carol Tiggs. But I would die for her.
I don't think the dreamer and stalker women of the same direction were natural friends but got along only thru impeccability. They needed each other.
Old Florida called Don Juan incompetent
Carol said she didn't think the two fat women were anything special.
But Carol also said that love is the highest form of intelligence.
There is a woman in here that I have never especially liked but because of Carol's comment about cyclic beings I suspect we're cyclic. She had a huge amount of dark energy around her And I don't usually see energy.
would it be so stupid to say we need each other? Where do you make the cut? Lop off the blue zone and I'm gone.
Last night while watching the flow of silent knowledge, with trace concerns about the subreddit, I was absolutely sure that teaching is mandatory for sorcerers.
That "passing on what you have learned", isn't just to be nice.
You have to if you want to get as far as the new seers did.
Sorcerers have always taught. There's no point in history where they didn't need at least an apprentice.
Which is another odd Star Wars coincidence.
Even the Sith had one apprentice.
Who they knew, would likely murder them some day.
But they still had one.
I can think of nothing more arduous than teaching.
It would require a personal paradigm shift for me. Student teacher.
'There are qualities of a good teacher I have never developed.
The first step along that path is so very high......... "And yet"
In our case, there's no teaching.
Just sharing, and when someone is confused, telling them the truth.
But no actual teaching except maybe Jadey teaching Tensegrity.
Your comments with Lily and Stellla are full of priceless info.
'Maybe the spirit will move me.
A long time ago, between sleep and awake, I was told that it's my fate not to know. I've never been positive what it meant. But it wouldn't bode well for a teacher.
You see, the mystery of mysteries is that Carlos and I are cyclic to one another and to the death defier. That was why I hated and loved him at a the [sic] same time. I saw him as a man. The death defier explained to me that a man and a woman who are cyclic to one another can’t see eye to eye in a million years. The only thing Carlos and I could do was to merge together.
https://sustainedaction.1109d1b.netsolhost.com/notes/carol-tiggs-speech-at-tula/
Is it possible that, as someone who constantly posts here and goes nightly into silent knowledge, when you die this place might also collapse for a while so that everyone has to find themselves again?
Like when the Nagual left and blew everything up, and the others scattered and were forced to try to pull themselves back together
Possible yes.
Sorcery sure does seem to repeat.
Which seems impossible when you're up at the blue line on the J curve, in your ordinary reality. Nutty even.
But out in silent knowledge it feels like "Well of course it repeats! There's no way for anyone to find what I'm looking at right now, if it didn't repeat!"
I ponder perhaps a good 5 minutes a night why it's impossible for anyone to find "The Nagual", despite the fact that I'm looking right at it and it's always there.
5 minutes out of a half hour of gazing at it.
One has to wonder what else is right in front of us, that we don't see at all.
Not even as sorcerers.
It’s too early for you to croak yet.
.." sorcerers always took the first event of any series as the blueprint or map of what was going to develop subsequently ".Chapter- The Genaro's
Not blowing sunshine up anyone’s ass, but Dan’s cool and direct, he works hard for the Sub and the Practice, 28 years on he’s still committed to the tasks Castaneda left him with.
Hit pause for a second and consider, maybe you’ve worked hard and intent nudged you here?
Is this a new sunlight glitter technique?
Yep, it’s a cool new not-doing.
Sorry for my poor sense of humor.
I think about this a lot. Obviously I have no way of understanding intent, but I feel like people who show up here and practice seriously do so at the behest of this force.
All good! I live for joking around. Your reply was funny. That was my poor attempt to reciprocate, but it was not a poor attempt if you laughed. lol?
I’ve been trying to write a post for the last couple days. I lack the eloquence to convey my experience(s). All said and done, I think intent is an internal force we get a feel for as we learn to turn off the internal dialogue. We intend the silence. Maybe we can apply that feel to other endeavours? That’s what my post would be about. But I dunno, I’m guessing cause I don’t have enough of either (inner silence or intent) to help myself or explain it to anyone else in a meaningful manner….
Maybe it’s better if I say, from practicing inner silence we learn a muscle memory and get feel for it. That’s how I’d sum up my last year and a half, and all said and done my quality of life is higher/better, lol gooder?
Dan wil Claim all Knowlage that is not vettet på him to be fake. He is the real deal but migth aswell be a real vampire. He will attempt to shut up, and shame anyone who he is not affiliated with, on the basis of supperiority. If you have An established comunity where you practice Sorcery and are experiancing the Benifits, Then you are living the dream others are chasing or relying on timetravel to re experiance.
Also this is not the Renicance, and we are not living in the golden age. Stuck only having to reinterprit amd analyze the works of the “Masters” of the past. And If you are discovering new knowlage,and new Passes you are not alone. Regurdless of your animation buget
Also to Anyone who tells you “Your path results only in Total failure” Whilst not knowing your direction, or the People you travel with, Is probaly also intrested in convincing you he has “The Quintessense of the vary thing! that is the Prinum of your utmost desires!?!? And all you have to do is everything he says in exacly this or that way.
I practice 2-3x a day everyday.
Anything after Carlos passed is questionable; except for what Jadey shares she’s a former student of CC
Hello, my teacher is a Georgian man, he also sees energies and gives us pointers. Yeah, everything seems questionable to me too except my teacher because I've tested everything he's taught me including lucid dreaming and they work.
Right on. Hope you all can hang here and share your progress.
Jadey’s video’s are instructional; we use them to learn the passes, so she’s slowed her movements for teaching purposes. Jadey’s an OG from Castaneda’s private classes and was mentoring under Taisha, if she cranks up her energy while demonstrating, everybody’d be lost 😂
It is difficult to convey tendon energy over a video. But I can assure you you'd be sweating if you were practicing with me. However, there is a difference between doing it with force, like if you were doing boxing punches with a lot of puffing and huffing and doing it with a lot of tension at the right time (usually at the end of the punch).
It is difficult to convey tendon energy over a video. But I can assure you you'd be sweating if you were practicing with me. However, there is a difference between doing it with force, like if you were doing boxing punches with a lot of puffing and huffing and doing it with a lot of tension/force at the right time (usually at the end of the punch).