I practice some magical passes from time to time, not as often as I like, but some of them are very hard to memorize.
Is it important to memorize them, or performing watching the videos is ok also?
What is the password for these links? do they work?
I practice some magical passes from time to time, not as often as I like, but some of them are very hard to memorize.
Is it important to memorize them, or performing watching the videos is ok also?
What is the password for these links? do they work?
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No one knows the answer to that. It is in fact an interesting question, which only arises due to technology.
Of course, the main thing is to KEEP practicing, which would tend to eliminate your problem over time.
And don't forget, Tensegrity can't work unless your assemblage point moves, and your assemblage point won't move, as long as you keep talking to yourself about this single position humanity has fallen into.
Don't satisfy yourself with "Chi Gungy Goodness" the way old retired schinese people do, while hitting on each other in parks in Beijing.
Tensegrity does SPECTACULAR
Wuao, vuoi dire che si possono aprire dei portali ?
YES!!! Absolutely.
However, it's real magic.
Not pretend magic.
Real magic is like Olympic level gymnastics. Or skiing.
It's very, very, very hard to do.
Mostly you're only going to see the start of it, get excited, and then it will all go away.
Last night I could clearly see why that happens, but I don't think I could explain it today.
The problem is, we ignore most of reality.
Just block it from our mind, having been trained by our family since we were tiny babies.
So when any magic becomes visible, we refuse to see it.
And if we work hard to learn to see it, we get excited thinking about how to use it to get money and attention from other people, so that our awareness focuses away from the actual magic, and back to our obsessions with other people.
Non mi interessa usarla per soldi o per ottenere attenzione dagli altri, ma per capire la vera natura della realtà, ho già provato qualche volta ma non ho visto mai dei portali ma mi piacerebbe, ho solo avuto aumenti della percezione, e qualche volta della telepatia, e qualche sogno premonitore, ed ho visto degli esseri inorganici fatti di luce, e mi capita ogni tanto di vederli. Ma questi portali si possono attraversare o solo guardare?
Yes, you can walk right through what you know to be a solid wall, if a portal appears on it.
And if you have a witch companion like Cholita, and she's in a good mood, both of you can go.
Sometimes...
Don't ask me how that's possible, or whether it's real.
We don't know...
And, that question or "realness" might not actually make sense, due to EVERYTHING being "not real".
Except we just don't know even that part.
But we DO KNOW that the experience is 100% like the real thing. You're fully awake, eyes wide open, doing our "tensegrity" movements, and when your assemblage point shifts enough, or if you have a spirit helper, a passageway appears. And if you can refrain from getting too excited, you just walk off through it.
There's no visualizing or imagining.
Carlos liked to say you walk off into another world, "Shirt, boots, and all."
Which is true!
But I have to wonder, is it the SAME boots you had when you started practicing?
I don't know because I never remember to check...
There's a slight loss of rationality and volition, when you break the laws of physics.
Could be that if you are extremely concerned with checking your boots, you aren't in the right state for your assemblage point to move as needed.
Any tips on how to get into the right state for the assemblage point to move as needed? I'm practicing tensegrity and recap and some days it naturally is better and easier and have a more quiet mind, most days are just down right horrible and feels impossible...
It can't move until you stop your internal dialogue for at least 2 minutes.
Because it moves where you focus your attention. Even if it's just in your thoughts.
That's part of the reason for recapitulation. To make it easier to ignore any strong thoughts that pop into your mind.
Unfortunately, any reference to THIS reality, which your awareness focuses on, requires the assemblage point to move back to its normal location or it makes no sense.
Later you'll get to see this very clearly! That what "makes sense", or perhaps you could say, that meaning itself comes from the position of the assemblage point.
The universe has infinite meanings, so that meaning as a "thing" is meaningless to the actual reality we reside in.
It's just a tiny flicker in an infinite sea.
But to us, it's a trap for our awareness. We were designed to be trapped by "meaning".
So you have to stop the internal dialogue or the assemblage point can't move.
That of course is the hard part. It's so difficult that no Yogi, Daoist, Kabbalist, Suffist or Buddhist master has ever succeeded in stopping it for even a short while.
Many believe (and will say publicly!) that it's impossible to stop the internal dialogue. Dooming their followers to nothing but pretending.
And thus no meditation type ever even tried to stop their internal dialogue. Because no one in their community encourage them to do that.
What's difficult for you, is impossible for others.
Carlos had hoped that focusing on muscle memory during tensegrity movements would make it easier, and it might indeed.
Except that no one did...
In the end, even our community was too lazy to put in a serious effort to stop the internal dialogue.
Because if you do, it always works!
Fortunately, you can also "intend" to move your assemblage point.
So that if you put in a serious effort to stop your internal dialogue during tensegrity, you've done a "good enough" job of intending it to move, that you'll succeed a little bit.
Intent REQUIRES realness. A "natural" variety of being serious and honest.
TRYING sinceerely to stop your internal dialogue, is "good enough" to count as intending to move it.
Once you get a little help from intending it to move you'll notice things coming from the second attention, and in the future it will be slightly easier to notice those.
Eventually you just start practicing and you "notice" all the magic you've accumulated, so that stopping the internal dialogue becomes possible.
Never forget: You were not born with an internal dialogue. It was imposed on you.
And humans prior to 50,000 years ago when language was invented, did NOT have an internal dialogue.
Since they had no language.
It's NOT natural at all.
Dan thanks so much! I so much appreciate it! It somehow feels to me that these explanations help my monkey brain stay on course. Might be just an illusion but for now I will choose to believe it helps! So thank you infinitely!
We have the serious disadvantage of not having a lineage. And the old seers had other old seers, and their child given to become the next generation.
But we DO have modern technology.
And so far, we don't have anyone trying to kill us the way the catholic church used to murder sorcerers and witches.
Though Cholita could end up changing that.
I'm pretty sure she's going to church in Mexico.
Regarding lineages and old seers... I believe we might still have those, just not "we" of course... Like I started to write a while ago about ancient mayan texts which still preserve references to nagualic practices, I am almost 100% there is a lineage of uncolonized mayans hiding still in the jungle of central america, somewhere between the border of Guatemala and Campeche. I had been deep into studying this for many years and the reason I turned to Central American cultures for answers is because it makes sense that Olmec knowledge steeped into the following generations post agriculture. Regardless of the human's new found obsession at the time with abstracting the world in symbols and then getting confused and loosing track between "reality" and symbol. More so, evidence exists in the writings of ancient mayan texts that had not been incorporated by archeology because the ones holding the manuscripts are the Mayan communities and they are extremely remote and closed, they learned fast that they need to hide their belongings otherwise the state takes them and puts them in a museum under key, or worst, they get sold on the black market to private collectionists in Europe. Long story short, there is a text found in Xochen which is part of a bigger library of texts that had been found which talks of Tayasal or Taj Itsá which was a capital of about 100000 people around lake Peten in Guatemala. In 1696 the colonial state told them they will be assimilated by the colony. They told them to give them another year because it was not an auspicious year. The colony returned in 97 and they found nothing and no one. They left with all their cult objects, treasures and institutions and hid deep into the jungle never to be heard from again. Therefor they still exist "uncolonized" somewhere in that area. Their texts are full to the brim of practices for the double. They have a name for nagual - wai which can be translated as nocturnal or representative of us in the dream world ( the double ). Is one of my "task" that I took upon myself to try to find them by learning to remote view. Had some very interesting happenings in dreaming but I want to be able to control the "remote viewing". Anyways sorry for the long response, huge geek girl here and I get carried away. P.S. Glad you finally had word from Cholita! She is lucky Mexican churches are extremely bizarre and unsettling by nature so I think she will blend in just fine :)
My estimate is that there's between 5 and 10 lineages left in Mexico.
But they don't take volunteers, due to the same problem we've seen in here.
So it's not like those do anyone who wants to learn, any good.
There's also groups like the Austronesian witches of the 16 aboriginal tribes left in Taiwan, who have genuine magic if you take the time to read what they do. But it seems like it's not very well developed, or perhaps not very well maintained after 6000 years of civilization impeding on them.
It'll all go extinct in 20 years.
It's perhaps as old as the Olmec stuff and originates from the same area of proto-siberia.
I met one of those witches up on Mt. Ali in Taiwan, and she "offered" me a granddaughter to marry.
A common custom among the Taiwanese aborigines.
And obvious too high of a price to pay to learn more about their magic.
Plus Cholita wouldn't like it if I came home with a 19 year old wife.
Fascinating stuff, will look into these tribes! Well my point was not to join a lineage but more like take advantage of the fact that at least in this part of the world a lot of their knowledge did ended up in old texts which can be rescued and studied and put to test and practice, because there are literally hundreds of old texts that are abandoned and no one has any interest in translating them and making them public for consumption, this group might be one of the very few that could benefit from uncovering them... And yes, indeed, importing a Taiwanese 19 year old would be similar to adopting an orphan child from some exotic country...
But don't forget that there's 20 books and publications from Carlos and the witches...
AND, you can read new ones floating in the air right in front of you!
Or get your Ally to teach you.
I've had the benefits of being taught by at least 4 different entities, including one that belongs to someone else in this subreddit.
It's not imagined! With your eyes wide open, walking around, they literally materialize and teach you new magic.
No need to look through old dusty books. Unless you like those...
Dan, I agree that practice is the real thing. I would never place old texts above actual work, because without direct experience they stay at the level of description and symbolism. What you had been sharing in this reddit is above and beyond amazing for us; given that I did read all of Carlos’s books and publications, at least 3 times each, I still haven’t been nudged to such pragmatic action until I found this subreddit, so I am very thankful for that.
I am probably a bit biased, because I genuinely love old languages, manuscripts, and this kind of research, so I admit that upfront. But I still think there is “value” in those texts, especially from a historical and comparative point of view. We have a very small surviving library when it comes to these themes, so if remote Maya materials preserve references to things like the double, nocturnal counterparts, dreaming states, or other practices related to perception, I think we gain more by studying them than by not.
Not because books are better teachers than an ally( which I hope I can get acquainted with soon), or better than practice, but they do help widen the record. They give more data points. They help show that these ideas may have had a broader continuity in Mesoamerica instead of existing as some isolated weird anomaly. Especially because the whole topic gets dismissed so easily as fantasy or invention.
So for me it’s not either or. Practice gives one the incentive to continue and it teaches us perseverance and just how low our tolerance for effort is ( this was a huge wake up call for me ). But old texts are useful as cross-cultural parallels, and surviving traces of a knowledge system that got fragmented very badly in a field where so much has been erased.
Also yes, I just like old dusty books :)
I used to collect very old books on magic.
Cholita didn't like them, so they're gone.
Don't know where to...
The first thing Cholita did when she moved in, was throw away everything I owned.
Here's that possible connection to technology. I hope to live long enough to do it. I animated all tensegrity moves for which there's a good video, which is only around half. Paid a team in Pakistan.
The other half is temporarily "lost".
But it's still so much available tensegrity a person could learn, that in fact they'd NEVER be able to memorize it all.
I know that for a fact from studying martial arts at many places, noticing not a single person in any of them knew all of their "katas" (forms). And that the leaders of those groups knew even fewer than anyone else. Over time, they literally stopped practicing.
But it's trivial to make a virtual teacher these days, and have her show up when you have virtual reality goggles on, which also block all light in the room.
So that we have a chance to practice ALL tensegrity, daily over weeks of time, using an AI teacher which keeps track of which forms you need to be doing next, so as to go through all of them.
Virtual Kylie!
Don't blame me for the sexiness, that was Dall-E. You should have seen how excited Grok got. It's versions were naked.
And I'm pretty sure Kylie was gay anyway...
I should add, that although we've lost half the forms Carlos gave us, I have a secondary project to make a virtual portal back to Dance Home in the 1990s, so that people can go learn the missing forms directly from Carlos.
Time travel is pretty much behind a lot of what our sorcery became over time.
It's also potentially a reason that if we ever find another real magical system out there, one which works instead of being pretend, it's not likely to be as "rich" as ours.
For example, the Austronesian witches on the mountains of Taiwan.
I'm pretty sure, from my limited contact with them and from what AIs say, that their witchcraft is real.
But it didn't evolve in a valley filled with tens of thousands of old seer sorcerers.
It was always just a very few witches per Austronesian tribe, of which there were only dozens, and they tended to fight with the other tribes. Removing heads of some of their enemies, to display them as trophies.
So their ability to move their assemblage points wasn't as well developed as ours, relying on starvation and stress rather than thousands of years of techniques developed through competition with other sorcerers. As the Olmecs did.
Taiwan didn't have any viable power plants, which is one reason I believe their magic is real. They aren't shaman druggies holding their hand out for money.
Never were.
Can we access the animations you made of all the tensegrity moves for which good video exists?
Sure. Which one do you want? They're "raw". FBX format.
I could send you DVD1 to see if you can load it into anything.
I've been thinking about putting it all up on archive dot org, but it's still not all that good.
I'd figured I'd tweak them when I deploy them in a cartoon, to show what Tensegrity looks like in the red zone, and in Silent Knowledge.
It's pretty darned impressive!!!!
Check out the post I might finish today or tomorrow.
How to form a "ring of fire" magical object using Tensegrity movements.
Those stick around a good 20 minutes solid, letting you play with them.
I suppose they're capable of producing "practical magic" if someone felt like putting in the effort.
But that would be like becoming a "taffy expert" when you live next to that famous candy store in Laguna.
Why on earth would you limit yourself to taffy? Just to impress your friends?
Who won't believe you anyway.
It looks like Daniel Ingram's latest Buddhist scheme is to become a taffy expert.
Witchy found some announcement he made, looking for "magic men" to join his new group dedicated to helping mankind.
With Buddhism.......
Here's the virtual dance home on the outside.
Eventually I hope to make cartoons simulating private classes well enough to be used in SK to go back and watch individual classes.
It was always emphasized in the Tensegrity workshops that I went to in the 1990's that it important to overload your mind with too much information, too many instructions, too many tensegrity moves. Because, at some point, your mind will just give up trying to hold on to all that data, and you'll start moving without thinking, without translating everything through your normal filters. Your normal way of thinking is what is keeping you rooted in your normal reality.
So, do the opposite of your inclination to "master" tensegrity. Watch a long series on youtube, and then try to recreate it without the video. It's almost like you're trying to recapitulate the series.
Maybe try to see the puffs and allies first through gazing at something without blinking, and then practice a simple pass like Zuleica's pass to swing them around. Then once you get an understanding of what that does you can try something more complex like stellar hatch to have more complex effects.
I think the pink puffs are just normal physiology, it's just how our eyes work in the dark with the rods and cones adapting, there is no magic in it. I don't recall darkroom gazing mentioned in Castaneda books.
The only thing I found true so far, was looking at my hands in the dream, and that triggered a lucid dream, but I don't know if this is an original idea or maybe it's written somewhere else before.. Also if that works doesn't mean that everything else works.
But still there are some beautiful ideas in his books, like Recapitulation, stopping the world, and the flyers, and it's strange how the critics just care if Don Juan Matus existed or not.
I don't want to sound materialistic, but does this stopping the internal dialogue makes us feel better? Does looking at the energy as it flows in the universe, helps in anything?
The pink puffs, or puffs of any color, can be seen in daylight too, with entities and waking dreams coming out of them to greet you.
I don't think the physical eyes and the physical brain are actually that important and it's mostly just a cultural construction. As wild as it might sound, if you taught children to see using their elbows rather than their eyes, that may be the way it works, biology being a constructed illusion when all we have is an inscrutable ocean of consciousness. If a materialist thinks the visual phenomena here are just the eyes or brain it's probably just because it's not bright or complex enough for them yet.
Dan HATES this Eastern mystic guy, but he is a good writer and gives a very well written summary of why the pink puffs are not just physiology:
No, it was neither optical illusion nor hallucination nor coincidence (chromatic) nor auto-suggestion nor any of the other ponderous and vacant polysyllables by which physical science tries to explain away or rather avoid explaining the (scientifically) inexplicable. In these matters the scientist is always doing what he is always blaming the layman for doing when the latter lays down the law on things about which he is profoundly ignorant, without investigation or experiment, without ascertained knowledge – simply by evolving a theory or a priori idea out of his own mind and plastering it as a label on the unexplained phenomena.
There is, as I have told you, a whole range or many inexhaustible ranges of sensory phenomena other than the outward physical which one can become conscious of, see, hear, feel, smell, touch, mentally contact – to use the new established Americanism ... The first sign of its opening in the externalised way is very often that seeing of “sparkles” or small luminous dots, shapes, etc., which was your first introduction to the matter; a second is, often enough, the seeing of circles of light or colour around objects, most easily round luminous objects like a star; seeing of colours is a third initial experience – but they do not always come in that order. The yogis in India very often in order to develop the power use the method of trātak, concentrating the vision on a single point or object – preferably a luminous object. Your looking at the star was precisely an exercise in trātak and had the effect which any yogi in India would have told you is normal. For all this is not fancy or delusion; it is part of an occult science which has been practised throughout the historic and prehistoric ages in all countries and it has always been known to be not merely auto-suggestive or hallucinatory in its results, but, if one can get the key, veridic and verifiable. Your first scepticism may be natural in a “modern” man plunging into these lasting things of the past, present and future – natural but not justifiable, because very obviously inadequate to the facts observed; but once you have seen, the first thing you should do is to throw all this vapid pseudo-science behind you, this vain attempt to stick physical explanations on supraphysical things, and take the only rational course.
P.S. I remember when I first began to see inwardly (and outwardly also with the open eye), a scientific friend of mine began to talk of after-images – these are only after-images! I asked him whether after-images remained before the eye for two minutes at a time – he said, “no”, to his knowledge only for a few seconds; I also asked him whether one could get after-images of things not around one or even not existing upon this earth, since they had other shapes, another character, other hues, contours and a very different dynamism, life-movements and values – he could not reply in the affirmative. That is how these so-called scientific explanations break down as soon as you pull them out of their cloudland of mental theory and face them with the actual phenomena they pretend to decipher.
I had the same thing... until Jadeys' Saturday classes, you can find on youtube on the Sorcery Passes channel.
What's that github.io link?????
„Link Lock is a tool for adding a password to a link; in other words, for encrypting and decrypting URLs. When a user visits an encrypted URL, they will be prompted for a password. If the password is correct, Link Lock sends them to the hidden website. Otherwise, an error is displayed. Users can also add hints to remind them of the password.“
from https://jstrieb.github.io/link-lock/create/
the basic idea is that it might help to ensure the videos aren’t taken down straight away.
So the link OP posted has secret tensegrity videos? :o
No secrets.
It worked
yes, but not really secret - the links are in the wiki (video section):
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/booklist/
Thank you
And here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/tensegrity/core_tensegrity/
Thank you
Is the Wheel of Time pass a real pass?
I have a hard differentiating what are made up
passes in the wiki. How do we know what’s fake
In each of the different workshop passes categories the passes that beginners should avoid have been moved into the "Post-2001" pages which are linked at the very bottom of each of those sections.
The reasons why are noted at the top of each of the Post-2001 pages.
We actually don't currently have a video for the version of The Wheel of Time that was taught at the workshops pre-1999. The video that Cleargreen created was put up in 2015 as I recall, and according to u/Jadeyelmonte is mostly made up version (to look visually appealing like Tai Chi).
Thank you
Yeah, I watched the Cleargreen video and had my doubts.
There’s no “muscle tension” in the pass they invented. But I was still confused because there are references to it going way back.
Ok, ma si può tornare indietro vero? Non rischi di rimanere intrappolato in un' altra dimensione?